Tether Update - Episode 87

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  • In this episode Bennett Tomlin and Cas Piancey discuss how Tether has been composing itself over the last several months.
    This episode was recorded on July 10th, 2022.
    Read more: cryptocriticsc...
    Other episodes mentioned in this episode:
    Episode 1 - Tether: A Stable Discussion • Tether: A Stable Discu...
    Episode 2 - Tether: A Stable Discussion Continued • Tether: A Stable Discu...
    Episode 79 - Celsius Collapse: Causes, Concern, and Catastrophe (Feat. Dirty Bubble Media) • Celsius Collapsing: Ca...
    Episode 5 - Two Pie Charts and a $60 Billion Stablecoin • Two Pie Charts and a $...
    Episode 26 - Cryptocurrency Lending is Too Good to Believe • Cryptocurrency Lending...
    Episode 83 - Contagion and Cascading Liquidations in Cryptocurrency • Contagions and Cascadi...
    Episode 19 - Inflation, deflation, and stablecoins with Frances Coppola (Part 1) • Inflation, deflation, ...
    Episode 20 - Algorithmic stablecoins and regulation with Frances Coppola (Part 2) • Algorithmic stablecoin...
    Episode 85 - Celsius Network: A Pyramid of Ponzis • A Pyramid of Ponzis: C...
    Other Resources:
    Deirdre Bosa Interview with Paolo in 2022 / 1545472707374071808
    Paolo and Stuart Hoegner Deirdre Bosa interview in 2021 • CNBC TechCheck+ chats ...
    Tether post on Celsius liquidation process tether.to/en/t...
    Decrypt article about Babel whisteblower decrypt.co/431...
    Patrick McKenzie thread on Tether assets / 1527310800322371591
    Stuart Hoegner tweet about how first audit will cover 2018 / 1409505413926731779
    Other places to find Crypto Critics' Corner
    Website: cryptocriticsc...
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    TikTok: vm.tiktok.com/...
    Bennett's Twitter: / bennetttomlin
    Cas' Twitter: / caspiancey
    Bennett's Newsletter: TheFUDLetter.com/
    Cas' Blog: / thecaspiancey
    Bennett's Blog: bennettftomlin...
    Asher's Twitter: / ashtag23
    This episode was produced and edited by Asher Hirsch.
    #cryptocurrency #crypto #podcasts #listenable #tether #usdt #celsius #3ac #fraud #scam

ความคิดเห็น • 76

  • @fallous
    @fallous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Clearly by "Big 12 auditor" they meant an auditor that is an alum from a university in the NCAA's Big 12 conference.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That must be it!

    • @calz7744
      @calz7744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Also means that they got #12 or #11, otherwise they would have said "big ten" or "big eight".

    • @roalama1301
      @roalama1301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i'm hoping they started there own company called big 12

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      “Big 12 Auditors Inc.: there’s a dozen of us here in the Caymans ready to handle all your auditing needs”

  • @geonwilliams
    @geonwilliams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Finance lawyer here. Love the way you guys work this through logically to help everyone understand. Just to confirm a couple of things generally (NOT LEGAL ADVICE!!): (i) it’s normal in most contexts for a borrower to get money back IF there’s money left over and above the full amount of the loan (+ interest and costs) after the collateral is sold. In fact I’ve never seen an arrangement that allows a lender to keep more (although it’s not impossible - but that would start looking more like a sale or equity arrangement rather than debt). I don’t margin trade but I imagine the reason you don’t get anything back is that they will usually sell the precise amount they need to bring you back to an acceptable LTV. Happy to hear more details from someone who knows how this works. (ii) Using client money as your own collateral is one of the biggest red flags out there. Crypto Cos may be able to do it being unregulated and having ridiculously lax TOS - but not doing this is basically regulation 101 for traditional fund managers, to protect client money if the manager itself goes bust.

  • @calz7744
    @calz7744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Keep imagining journalists doing actually journalism, like following up with an auditor. I'll be here in the real world waiting for you. Good video!

  • @allen-simpson
    @allen-simpson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These hit about the time I step through my doorway. Good stuff.

  • @buriedpet
    @buriedpet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m a simple man. I see Tether Update, I click.
    Thanks for another banger, guys.

  • @GreatgoatonFire
    @GreatgoatonFire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Watched this as soon as I got the notification.
    I wonder if this will finally push Tether into the void or if they'll manage to live to scam another day.

    • @davide2537
      @davide2537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is the 3rd currency in terms of capitalization with the highest liquidity of the stablecoins. Why do you think this will happen?

    • @GreatgoatonFire
      @GreatgoatonFire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davide2537 I watched the episode.

  • @nighticeeee
    @nighticeeee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I give you one of my monopoly money for 2 of your monopoly money that we then switch to a monopoly money with a dollar drawn on it that we then can maybe switch to real money if this shady business worth maybe 90 billion monopoly money which says it's backed by real money in assets but not actual liquid cash anymore let's us!

  • @stage6fan475
    @stage6fan475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was having down day. Laughed out loud. Thanks.

  • @Hyppotalamus
    @Hyppotalamus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You guys quickly became my favorite crypto podcast since i saw Bennett on doomed economy and Coffeezilla. Always interesting and informative.

  • @allgreatnike1009
    @allgreatnike1009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tether's at it again😂...

  • @chompers5568
    @chompers5568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Haven't watched yet but I'm almost 100% this is about the audit they have just done that proves they have the coin is backed 100% with dollars.

  • @Ethyn_Jackson
    @Ethyn_Jackson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just wanna know when Bennet is going to sue Elizabeth Holmes for stealing his likeness in the form of his voice.

  • @dlo5640
    @dlo5640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:56 Bennett's laugh haha

  • @frvo
    @frvo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dis gon b good... 😁😁

  • @JCube0
    @JCube0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey guys, big fan since I found you. Since crypto is such a fast paced environment - is there anywhere I can listen to the CCC at an earlier date before its posted to yt? Either way thanks for your in depth analysis!

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, YT goes up the same as everything else

  • @smc4229
    @smc4229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @26:09 you see the point where Bennet's circuit breaker threw "oh wait this is all made up, this isn't a real company that makes sense" and the head explosion was averted

  • @bennettftomlin
    @bennettftomlin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The dude on the left really needs to fix his video

    • @MenwithHill
      @MenwithHill 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Time to crowdfund Bennett a fresh setup.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just listen... It's a podcast style show...

  • @satoshinakamotoiamthereals2897
    @satoshinakamotoiamthereals2897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes every thing down

  • @dlo5640
    @dlo5640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man, tether might be in real trouble...If Tether takes a shit Terra/UST will look like childs play

  • @mrkeyes88
    @mrkeyes88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saying you have a big 12 auditor is like saying the Texans have a top 32 offense

  • @samsom849
    @samsom849 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you guys are reallly into tether so what's the plan though

  • @nateo6806
    @nateo6806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lazer beam eyes pew pew

  • @shenkerism
    @shenkerism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a big 12 auditor COULD also be a big 4 auditor

  • @worldwidehappiness
    @worldwidehappiness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A few years ago, I watched a crypto expert weekly on TH-cam. It felt strange how everything was linked back to everything else in all these circles and triangles. But due to the complexity, I gave up and presumed that he knew what he was talking about. I mean, why would such a smart well-informed guy lie? Then I heard you guys spelling out the fakeness of the circles and triangles. What?! Hm, maybe we should all listen to that little voice inside that says, "Too good to be true."

    • @qwerty_artist
      @qwerty_artist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well everything does seem to link together, and there are certainly lots of 3-d triangles involved... circles signify in-escapable cycles- like places where you can't withdraw your money? Hmmm

  • @elizabethtory8827
    @elizabethtory8827 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Thanks for the updates. Tether is my favorite stablecoin, I've been using it form the very beginning of my trading steps

  • @bryansiepert9222
    @bryansiepert9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The bullshit landscape here _really_ needs a map because humans can't hold even a fraction of this shit in their heads at once.

    • @bryansiepert9222
      @bryansiepert9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once you started going into the ???? inducing supposed worries of Tether's big-bakers-dozen auditor wrt journalists, I had a hard time really comprehending that information in the full context of BIG 12 NOT BEING A THING.

  • @01nfldchristopherduke56
    @01nfldchristopherduke56 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its was grren leaf outting its was 2.3 tdollers

  • @zzetzzet7264
    @zzetzzet7264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tether is still stable and this is the most important thing at the moment for the stablecoin market.

  • @blerdgirlromance
    @blerdgirlromance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    In a world where even "reputable" financial newspapers/online sources are pushing cryptocoin and only warning about the potential for volatility. The work you guys and Coffeezilla do is a beacon of life in the scamming void. Cheers and another great vid.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you!

    • @MagneticNorthbound
      @MagneticNorthbound 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, but Coffee pretends to not know all of Crypto is a scam and so milks each individual scam, for content, instead of dutifully leveling with his audience. I don't believe he doesn't know it's inherently predatory.

    • @tiyas5378
      @tiyas5378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MagneticNorthbound eh, I don't think his intent is nefarious. I think he's just sort of holding onto hope.

  • @frvo
    @frvo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hahaah! I work at EY (formerly Ernst & Young)

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tether is so outright weird and vague with their financial releases that it almost screams that it's being allowed by some person or entity in the government.
    Seriously, unless we all have it wrong, how can a S coin pump n dump get investigated, yet a company printing dollar equivalents is not, after years of shady practice.... Just seems to me like government involvement, like when they lose track of drugs, billions of dollars, weapons, vehicles, etc....
    Tether is just too weird to me.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean they are being investigated!
      But you are right they are very strange and it’s increasingly weird they exist

  • @yoyi8285
    @yoyi8285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    schrodinger's auditor.

  • @bigbeng9511
    @bigbeng9511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Still a noob in crypto, so far as I've understood this is that Tether primarily is managing USD derivatives in crypto land, with dodgy/non-audited accounting to reflect the actual fiat to crypto pegging assets. Hence, the current Tether valuation is very much less than listed as such that if I buy all 60 billion Tether, and ask them to return in USD I would be getting much less.
    Still how does Tether makes money? Is it still primarily via the interest rate they issue the over collaterized loan (130%) to other CEFI whether is running or defunct like Celcius? Or they are also just printing Tether without USD asset to pay themselves in which either case look like a disaster.
    Love your work by the way.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tether is supposed to make money by:
      - charging fees on issuance and redemption
      - earning interest on reserves
      How tether actually earns their money is less clear

    • @bigbeng9511
      @bigbeng9511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CryptoCriticPod This seems to be a legitimate ways to start a stable coin in a volatile crypto environment, minus all the bullshit you've mentioned. Thanks 😘

  • @something00witty
    @something00witty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of the big 12 podcasts.

  • @qwerty_artist
    @qwerty_artist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So I went back and started listening from episode 1, making this episode dropping even better for me muahahah

  • @thelazymanatee2506
    @thelazymanatee2506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bennett has a beautiful sparkle in his eyes when he gets excited about Tether covering up their bullshit, I love it :D

  • @frvo
    @frvo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great episode! Thanks!

  • @L4NkYb
    @L4NkYb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But will they make it into the College Football Playoffs after they're through with the Big 12?

  • @ther0kk
    @ther0kk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tether seems to be atop a large power keg... and the fuse might be shorter than they would like. Big fireworks incoming?

  • @pomeloog
    @pomeloog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tether is the black hand of crypto, old school Italian mafiosos

  • @dlo5640
    @dlo5640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just thinking about it ...why dont you guys ever talk about Richard Heart - HEX?

  • @shauncreed1315
    @shauncreed1315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    algo

  • @zoop2174
    @zoop2174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how many exchanges are exposed to tether.

  • @stevens1616
    @stevens1616 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tether will be always as strong as ever!

  • @aliceamson6941
    @aliceamson6941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently, Tether has carried out a number of important updates and released several new coins.

  • @01nfldchristopherduke56
    @01nfldchristopherduke56 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello im chris ask anybthhin

  • @sashacollins1116
    @sashacollins1116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tether is still king and you know it.

  • @LexFez
    @LexFez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm in no way a fan of Tether but this pod was littered with numerous inaccuracies. Do your research, guys.