DENTAL & ORTHODONTIC CARE IN GERMANY 🇩🇪 Why I’m SO impressed as a New Zealander
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I got the currencies a little mixed up in this video. Just to clarify, getting braces in NZ can cost around 9000 NZD which is equivalent to 5500 EUR.
If surgery is medically indicated it's free as well. Mainly the things that are "specials" like cosmetic stuff (instead of "the basics") will be charged extra.
To add to my comment, I think Germany was one of the first countries to have government sponsored insurance, starting under Chancellor Bismarck in the 1870's.
Indeed so.
Yes, you may pay higher taxes, but the security against going bankrupt due to medical emergencies, is well worth it. Here in the US, most have to pay for private insurance. We do have Medicare which is public insurance for over 65 individuals. I think most european countries have some kind of public insurance.
Depends. If you easily pay 3 times higher deductions you could also just save the difference for medical emergencies. Germany is great for low income earners because their medical bills essentially get paid by others. I think in the US many people make the error that they consume too much and save not enough for emergencies. When the monthly contributions are lower, but co-payments higher, one has to safe more. Of course with a lower income in the US it should be more difficult, because in Germany the other insured people of a health insurance subsidize the insured people with lower income, because the contributions are not absolute but a percentage of the gross income and the availbale medical treatments are the same for all. This means that a person with low income in the German system most likely never pays a premium which covers his or her medical risk. The risk is paid by others with higher income which pay significantly more than what would be necessary to cover their risk.
Hello
Thank you for again showing me, how lucky I can be to live in Germany (born and lived here all the time).
I often forget, that not everything, I take for granted, is everywhere the same.
Nevertheless I hate visiting a dentist😏😁
Doesn't everybody? 😉
@@ToyTiger666 Well, while I lived in Germany, I loved going to my dentist. Why, you ask? My dentist liked me as a patient, I take good care of my teeth and they have hardly anything to do. I will admit, my first time (I was maybe five or six) I was really scared, ran from the doctor and cried a lot.
It cost us $6500 for our daughters braces, 15 years ago, here in NZ, it was an enormous cost to us at the time I remember. How wonderful you are able to get them free, costenlos.
Thank you so much for this video. Most people in Germany take the excellent benefits of public health insurance for granted. I work for a public health insurance company and most of our international clients really appreciate the comprehensive highly standardized services. Important to know that a few health insurance provider offer extra benefits. DAK Gesundheit refunds you 60 Euro per year for one professional dental cleaning besides many other additional services.
Great video! :)
I can remember from my last visit that here in Germany a regular x-ray at the dentist was something about 15-20 Euro.
💖🌷💖🌷Nice video, I love your channel !
You touched on a subject I always talk to my doctors about when back at home in Germany. While it is not perfect, the German health system is fabulous compared to any other system I have been exposed to (NHS and Medicare). I agree that too many people complain about something they should be grateful for. Sometimes it requires a perspective change to notice one's privileges.
Amazing video, ❤️
we germans take a lot for granted. we should all be more proud and happy for what we have in our country. most people dont take a look beyond the border
@Nelson Witt Just take a close look at how much worse "Altersarmut" is in other countries. There is a lot of room for improvement in Germany, but compared to a lot of other countries it's going quite well here. The Nordic countries may do better, but the rest? I know we Germans are not happy with anything that isn't 110% perfect, that's why we often overlook how good we have it here.
@@mrm7058 In Germany it is quite hard to build wealth as single by your own work. The taxation and deductions are just very high. As soon as you start to earn better money, much of it is distributed to other people. For people who are well educated and good earners, Germany is not a good place to go, if you want to earn money for yourself. In Germany you do not need to donate to charity, you automatically do every month with your taxes and health insurance contributions for example. That is likely why well educated people like tp leave Germany, for Switzerland for example, while Germany is highly attractive for less educated immigrants. Likely Germany is also more attractive for most families than Switzerland I guess, just for the basically free health insurance. Rational decisions.
Since when Germans speak English
@@AhmedAli-ps2uq I hope that's a joke
@@MyvIsLove2 iam amazed to see one
The Minimal Mom & Diana Kokku are twin sisters on youtube who talked about their 2 teeth that never came in so they have a partial.
It's called a Myofunctional Therapist in English. She has a tongue thrust it sounds like but overbites are caused by the lower jaw not growing enough not the upper jaw being too forward as is commonly believed. Don't allow them to extract any of her teeth or retract her upper jaw otherwise her whole jaw will look recessed.
Our public health dental care in Britain is abysmal. For starters, it's impossible for new patients to find an NHS dentist anywhere. There are of course many NHS dental practices, but they are almost always full. Going private is just not financially possible for many workers on low wages. Second, when you do manage to find an NHS dentist with vacancies for new patients, the dental treatment one receives is absolutely basic. I also have two dental checkups a year and each one takes less than 10 minutes for the very cursory check, even though I know my teeth are in a pretty sorry state. When I lived in Germany I was 40 years younger and my teeth were still good. But sometimes I had to have a tooth pulled, usually one of the wisdom teeth. This was covered by my Krankenschein, so I never had to pay anything for dental care while in Germany. By what you say in your video, the standard of dental care has got even better. There are so many reasons why my life in increasingly old age would be better in Germany, dental care being one of them. Oh, and finally, NHS dental care was completely unavailable throughout the 2020 lockdown. My dental practice closed in September 2020 and only reopened in March 2021. Television advertisements for emergency DIY dental repair kits were rife and there were numerous reports of people in desperate pain pulling out their own teeth with pliers. Britain now is in crisis. Bare shelves in supermarkets, horrendous price rises for gas and electricity, hundreds of filling stations with no petrol or diesel (this situation has now eased since the government ordered the Army in to help drive tankers), and yesterday a Member of Parliament was murdered by a suspected terrorist while holding his weekly meet-the-constituents surgery. Absolute chaos and where was the Prime Minister last week? On holiday in Marbella.
I really, really hope that your NHS will not sold to sharks and the UK becomes a little US. The NHS is heavily underfunded, parts of it are under pressure and are understaffed too. You have a good system but Brexit and the current government is messing it up.
For 8 years old, was orthodontic or orthopedic? It looks like more orthopedic (retainer), and is cheaper than bracers (and braces are instales at 12 years old).
I am from India and trying move germany to Germany. I have a question guys , if I do my teeth braces from India can I continue the treatment from Germany. Is there any problem if I do my teeth treatment with braces in India and after I come germany did I continue with any dental clinic in germany .
How much is it to continue the orthodontic treatment in Germany?
So how it costs in Germany to put braces and treatment for raised teeth
I am a German mum who has been living in Spain for 16 years. It makes me a little bit jealous that the dental treatments for children in Germany are free. Here in Spain, one must pay for everything, social security doesn´t pay anything. My dental insurance paid by my employer is quite useless. I have not had such good experiences with German dentists as an adult. First of all, many still use amalgam (I wasn't even asked at the time) and secondly, it is very expensive when a treatment has to be paid. Here the treatments are roughly half the price with a similar cost of living. Fillings are not free but they stopped using amalgam decades ago. By the way, I like your channel because it's interesting how you see Germany as a foreigner, especially for me as a German and foreigner in Spain. I also like your accent because long time ago I spent a year in OZ and met a lot of nice Kiwis there.
great video, but this video scared me a bit... 😂 I am a German who moved to NZ and I already realized that the docs here are not as qualified as in Germany (I know it sounds bad, but I had some really bad experiences). But I had no clue so far, that the dental is also that bad 😥
Time to book your return flight back to Germany!
@@SuperLittleTyke no way 🤣 its awesome to live so close to remote nature
How much braces cost for international students
This 10% cost is a motivator to hold on to the treatment until it is ended ! Only then you get the money back ! Sometimes parents or kids aren t strict with the the treatment then the money is lost !
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Most American dont want to pay high taxes ，but the downside is that you dont have public insurance to help you pay for medical expenses.
Germany is great for families because you do not have to pay health insurance for children or spouses who have no own income. Families are effectively subsidized by the health insurance system. Basically, a one person income familiy pays health insurance based on that one salary only. The same amount as if he was single. That is bad for singles of course, because with a little bit better income you most likely pay way too much relatively to your personal health risk relative to your income, because someone has to pay for the treatments of children and stay at home moms for example. The someones are for example singles with higher incomes. Additionally tax money is paid into the public health insurance system, which of course also pay mainly the higher income earners. All in all in Germany with health insurance and retirement contributions you pay as single easily nearly 50% in taxes and social deductions based on the cost of your employer. After that you pay of course further indirect taxes, such as sales taxes etc.
Can someone introduce me a good dentist at Dusseldolf?
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I know I am being a smarta** now, but our german health insurance is not for free. You pay for it, explicitly, each month. It might be cheap, compared with other countries, because of the (almost) single-payer model. 🙂 And it is a GoodThing™.
@3:28 It is just social healthcare which has its own slew of downsides. Next to no incentive to lower your personal health risks which results in higher cost and in turn increases the contributions for everybody. Yes, it could be worse and it is a matter of perspective but affordable basic healthcare shouldn't be considered a luxury. 🤷♂
@6:20 In order to become a dentist you need to meet a really high grade point average to be eligible for a place to study. 🧐
@7:35 I like dentists who are empathic and don't cause me unnecessary distress. 😊
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I had to tell a German dentist that he was the second dentist I had in my life (I was 35). My dentist in the US was absolutely incredible. I went to him for 30 years. I was nervous about going to a new dentist. She was absolutely incredible also. I find it interesting the US dentist insurance (at least my insurance) was almosf like Germany's insurance. You had to purchase separate dental insurance, but getting it through an employeer it was $10 a month. You got 2 free cleanings, x ray,and fillings were free. My poor parents had to pay 10% for the braces but got the money back. Where my parents had to spend a lot of money on was getting my wisdom teeth pulled. The insurance didn't cover it 🙄.
You must have had really good dental insurance. I have dental insurance in the US with a 12 months llcoverage limit if $1000. Sounds good right? Well when you go you find out that you co-pay is about 60% and e.g. a deep cleaning isn't covered. My co-pay this year so far was almost $1500.
@@filipegrieb-dunlap5625 🤮🤮🤮. That's a lot of money. Ok I'm absolutely clueless about dental insurance. We were extremely lucky. Well we weren't lucky for the wisdom teeth part.
@@jessicaely2521 lol I hope it didn't come across as an attack it wasn't ment to be one. I just wanted to share that thete is no universal coverage here and things can be good, ok or bad as far as insurance goes.
@@filipegrieb-dunlap5625 What is your monthly deduction ?
@@mrx2062 there is none just $ 1000 limit coverage with around 60% copay
Still, good dental care in the kong run will become expensive
Publicly insured people in Germany rarely see the costs of treatment (which is not bad, of course, as long as everything gets paid). I am privately insured and thus get the bills sent to me so I can pass them on to my insurance, hence I can see how much the treatments actually cost.
I had a "professional cleaning" last month for €98,-. This in particular means removal of calculus (in German "Zahnstein", literally "tooth stone"), and it took about 30-40 minutes (did not take the time, just from my memory).
Is that comparable to treatment costs in other countries?
Here in Atlantic Canada a 45 min professional (deep) cleaning by a registered dental hygienist (most have a 2 year intensive college training but some even have a 4 year university bachelor degree) costs about $150 CAD (about 96€), with 2 intra-oral “bite-wing“ x-rays and a check-up it costs about $225 CAD (145€). I trained as a dentist in Germany in the 90s and worked there for 2 years before relocating to Canada and I was appalled at the difference in service (and quality) between the “free” and the “private” services. For example, a cleaning paid by the gesetzliche Krankenkasse was 5 minutes with the rough sonic scaler that only removed the visible tarter above the gum line vs. the 30-45 min thorough cleanings with hand instruments and fine piezo scalers that removed the tarter also below the gum line. Back then there were virtually no dental hygienists in Germany and the dentist had to either do the cleaning themselves or delegate to their assistants (ZA Helferinnen) which were only trained in a superficial cleaning or tooth polishing. Bottom line: you get what you pay for and gesetzliche Krankenkassen can only pay for the basic minimum.
No in Germany only checkup is covered by insurance even professional cleaning you need to pay by yourself
That checkup costs $200-300 in Texas in 2023..
Dear Antoinette
I often think that we Germans just like to complain. yes, some things in germany are in need of improvement, but honestly we are doing really well here. i think one disadvantage of the german character is forever to complain about. about everything and everyone. maybe that is something that germany has to learn from different views
that is absolutely not true, if Germans complain about the health system, they have concrete reasons for it and don't exaggerate. And no, we also appreciate if e.g. the dentist treatments are great!
The trouble with Britain and us British is that we complain a lot as well, but we keep voting for the same politicians, so the situation only keeps getting worse.
@@SuperLittleTyke Well u guys voted for the BREXIT now eat your food
I'm a German living in NZ. It bugs me that you first need a referral from your GP to see the specialist and have to pay for it as well (about $230). You can't just see the gynecologist, or the orthopaedics or dermatologist...
I miss the German health system, it sounds its still very good, even though I can't tell because I have not lived in Germany for over 20yrs now.
My experience with dental care and docs in general is not the best tbh. I feel treated as a product not a human, they will avoid to share x rays and blood test results as much as they can and push for unnecessary surgeries
This is simply not true. You can have calculus removed for free once a year, but not a full cleaning, that you pay. You can have two checkups a year for free. For fillings public insurance still only covers amalgam, if you want composite you have to pay extra. If you need a crown or a bridge or an implant you have to pay nearly all of it yourself. With dentures they pay the ones you have to take out at night and put into a glass of water, lol. If you want fixed ones, implants, you also have to pay.
Not saying our health care system isn't okay, but those things you say in the video are just misinformation.
Ok, so the getting reimbursed when you finish the treatment is to give you an incentive to pull through until the problem is corrected. If you decide half way that you're going to stop the treatment (for example because it looks good enough to a layman and your kid is throwing tantrums when you tell them to put in the retainer) you won't get reimbursed.
If you found a good doctor, dentist or orthodontist keep them as long as possible.
A good professional doctor is not there to make money on your situation, he/she will give you an honest advice for you to decide what is best for you and not for the briefcase.
Things like that are a reason why you pay higher taxes in Germany.
Well for a better education, for example, otherwise you would have a bush dentist too.
Okay, okay, Antoinette, I stopped your video at 8:20 and I won't watch any further. I have a dentistophobia, or whatever you may call it, and not all the king's horses and all the king's men will bring me to a dentist ever again. (Emergencies excepted.)
🤣 I think many others share your fear of going to the dentist!
compared with countries like New Zeeland or US the health system might be better but overall it is not so good like you say, you will see if you will have to deal one day (or better just see) more serious health troubles. It is then often a pure nightmare. Unhuman, terrible!
In Britain there are moves to make assisted dying legal. At the moment people travel to Switzerland.
Aha. You need to explain more - otherwise it just looks like unfounded accusations/assumptions. Btw: I never experienced something like that here. I had a heart-surgery - i consider this to be "more serious troubles".