Bajaj Pulsar NS200 2024 First Impressions | S02E17
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
- Bajaj has rolled out another update for the Pulsar NS200, adding LED headlights, slipper clutch, and digital console with bluetooth. Shumi and Kartikeya discuss whether it's enough to keep this old, old motorcycle relevant on MotorInc First.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 A Dozen Years Old
01:55 Same Bike Again
04:45 Do You Need Bluetooth
06:18 New Digital Console
08:55 The Quality Challenge
10:53 A Cult Bike
14:59 Should You Buy One
16:55 Pricing & Rivals
19:14 Lack of Evolution
20:44 Too Many Pulsars
22:12 Pulsar Brand Issues
23:12 Which Is The Flagship
26:12 Quick Summary
29:43 Blast From The Plast
31:59 KTM 200 Duke Updates
32:38 Next From Bajaj
33:53 Dominar Rethink Required
35:45 Closing Comments
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#MotorIncFirst #FirstRide #FirstLook #FirstImpressions #Bajaj #BajajPulsar #BajajPulsarNS200 #PulsarNS200 #NS200 #2024 - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I had an uncle who just retired from Bajaj R&D three years ago. I asked him why so many Pulsars. He shrugged and said "We don't decide what gets designed, we get a brief and we design it."
Shucks. Hello to your uncle and many thanks from us for his part.
Back in 2012, when I first saw it instantly loved the way it looked. Then in 2015, I got a chance to ride it and decided it would be my first bike. Got it in 2017 and still love riding it till date. Totally agree with Shumi sir it's still a fun bike to ride and puts a big smile on my face after riding it.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing, Tarun!
Long time coming. But I don't know why Bajaj is still reluctant to focus on their lineup more intently. Their design and choice are all over the place. P150, N160, NS160, NS200. Do you guys feel somewhere around the corner Bajaj is kind of afraid to take a leap?
Agreed! Focus is required! 💯
Agree
just give us one solid product
I have no idea why there needs to be an N150 and an N160
Just one of these lower segment bikes probably sells more than both the dominars combined.
Yes although design is really easy to mess up too ig
Them changing their design itself is a big thing
Idk what other design would really suit pulsars, cant think of much
But yes i do agree that they need to focus a bit.
I own a NS200 for the past 9 years and loved it so much that when I started hunting for a new bike in the market I couldn't find one that gives you this much value proposition. Guess what I finally went ahead and bought the NS200 again and it always gives me a smile when I ride.
It'll be a sad day when motorinc gets overwhelmed with the comments and is unable to reply to every single one. It makes us feel very special that you guys respond to us and value that we are your subscribers. Love the work!
We're not afraid of climbing that mountain, Harshit. But we're really concerned that we won't summit it in time 😊
True...the replies really make us feel special 😌😌
@@motorinc I have used a bs4 NS200, and I used to tour on it. I am 5'11 and the NS has a comfortable riding triangle for a slightly taller body frame. I used to over maintain it - Motul 7100 every 3500-4000 kms, and used to change the oil filter at every alternate oil drain.
Now , why I had to sell it is, the rocker arms in the head developed side to side play. The rocker arm bearings had given out. This was really a surprise to me, because my 13 year old Unicorn still runs like a charm, no rattling sound from the engine at all. And all I have done is a basic oil change for that bike.
So coming to my opinion - I would never suggest any of my friends to buy anything Bajaj, not because Bajaj makes bad motorcycles, but because what I feel is, Bajaj focuses so much on pricing that the quality is almost completely overlooked.
I used to hate Royal Enfield for their pathetic quality and today I find myself scratching my head at how can Royal Enfield almost reach European levels of quality and equipment while Bajaj, which used to be miles ahead of RE, still lags behind so much.
As a motorcycle, I feel my Interceptor is ligh years ahead of the NS 200 in terms of quality. I truly don't care about gimmicky features.
Good points Shubham! Thanks for sharing!
Pulsar had awe 10 yrs back i used to see new model and get excited it was like superbike when we used to spot in our school premises
yeah first Pulsar bike that made us inspirational like Apache. i remember that too and seeing that green 🍏 coolent juice i was in awr back then
Yes! Do you think that aspirational aspect of the Pulsar has been devalued over the years?
@@motorinc for sure its like our age group remember it as a quick beautiful naked like more performance but not faired "220f" . but every hero becomes a villain after a while . same things no changes made it lag behind. current generation don't even recognise it as something good ... but it always is a sleeper hit 🎯
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Shumi because of you guys my whole concept of motorcycling has changed.Thank you and keep us motivated
Glad to hear that! Awesome @berlinbaby7529
Love it the way kartikey started the conversation!!!
Just amazed with this review format, many insights, many unknown stories, it is more than just a review.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank Devasya!
I currently own a 2018 NS 200 ABS and I absolutely love riding my NS to the day but it needs a few changes-
1. Better Quality levels overall including Fit & Finish
2. ABS is too sensitive
3. Front forks are too soft & rear shock is a bit stiff (Doesn’t add up well)
4. Mirrors are a bit small
5. Rear seat feels like a slab of stone
Eagerly looking forward to the NS400 as a potential upgrade
Thanks for letting us know! Agreed @praxxy!
That rear seat 🥶
Where did u buy 2018 model
@@Venom-GAMING6 I got pre-used 2018 NS 200 ABS from OLX back in September 2020 and back then it had only done 16k kms and was in very good condition.
Got my 2 year old NS for 80k while new costed 130k and with the remainder of the cash I got myself riding gear with 20k cash still left around for fuel & service
@@Praxxy thanks for ur information 🙂
The NS200 represents nostalgia to me as I owned one and enjoyed it thoroughly for 7 years. The updates that the NS recieved should have arrived atleast 4 years ago and today, it should have been a KTM slayer but sadly it isn't. And that's why I am never going to buy a Bajaj ever again as they promised so much to the enthusiasts 12 years ago but they never delivered. Take that Bajaj. Now a days, even Hero is trying to rope in the enthusiasts so what is stopping them? It isn't like KTM and Triumph are their enthusiast alternative and Bajaj is for the commuters, no. We want Bajaj to occupy that place because they were that brand.
Hey @asweseeit1742! All well?
Yes, we agree. That aspiration that Bajaj's Pulsar line was born with is being squandered for sure!
Just bought a ns200 in Feb 2024 and I am really loving it. The switch gear quality is not at par with n250's standard, but the thing is the engine is smooth , very powerful and engaging. Chasis behave so good on corners and front brakes are simply A+ standard. Exhaust is A+. My only complain is with that 130 rear tyre. Remember, anytime you compare ns with a duke, you cannot ignore the price.
Congratulations Zaid! Thanks for the updates on your experience!
Will you still recommend NS over new N250? Beside the quality, NS got 6 speed liquid cooled engine which is great i think
Well everything aside bro everyone goes saying that you should go for mt15 as its engine is far more refined than Bajaj . So as per your use of no 200 do you feel that more engine refinement can be done?
@UtkarshSingh361 Depends what you are looking for. If you like to revv your bike and have some fun then ns200 is the way to go. N250 is an all rounder suitable for majority while ns is for performance lovers like me.
@vaibhavmeena4235 I have owned gixxer , fz v3 and now ns200 and I have 0 complaints in the area of refinement. Around 7k rpm, she does 100 kmph and is perfectly fine. Lastly, due to my ownership experience of fz, I am not going for another yamaha anytime soon.
It’s time for Bajaj to re-Discover Pulsar.
Couldn't agree more
Your wish will be fulfilled, NS400 incoming
Brought the motorcycle on 2022 and still I am using it, what a awesome bike. Whenever I swing my legs over and start to ride it gives a smile on my face. I would love to see the NS 200 a completely new fresh looks, hoping from Bajaj. Thanks Motorinc for this video.
Great to hear about your garage! Thanks for letting us know!
This bike was designed by a person who was working with BMW Motorrad. Bajaj hired him to design the NS200 bike. The design still looks great..I feel Rajiv Bajaj feels he doesn't have the people in his team now that will take the NS200 to a next level...in terms of design it needs. Hence, he wants to stick with the design.😊
Thanks for sharing your perspective VGP!
22:22 past these days on the way home I got to see a NS200 parked just outside the house front gate on the twisty section. Every time I approach this site I gradually slow down a bit more to take a good look at this motorcycle. When I see that bike my mind is like flashing with memories of NS200 one which my senior owned past from 2013 or 2012 itself. Which he used to share with me on different occasions And all it was about rides we enjoyed in that bike. That sound of the motor, rev meter that can clock 9 k, back lighted switches, chunky body and tyres... Everything was great to remember and still counting ...It was never a wrong turn to pick this machine if u want to play Street runs or to run out to the highway to match unbelievable experience and thrill of 200cc machine... For me it's like later on the addition of certain things made it a more potential machine of thrill and experience... As u said this motorcycle has a different audience in the market especially here in kerala... People who love machines over some features may find it right for their heart.
Some machines own hearts of many and their value is marked in history as the greatest of all time.As NS200 is one of a kind. ❤
I love your videos because they speak to me, both as an automotive enthusiast and as someone who works in the industry. I watch all your videos, but I seldom leave a comment, and even if I do, it is technically motivated. I am typically uncomfortable displaying my emotional connection to cars and bikes on such public forums. Well, that all goes out of the window today because a 2014 Pulsar 200 NS was my one and only bike before I moved abroad. It was my daily ride, my early morning Sunday blast through the ghats, my tourer, and everything else. I put 40,000 km on it, and I absolutely loved every one of them. I miss this bike every time I think about it. The classic round tach, with the needle blipping through the whole rev range each time I turned the key is, with no hint of exaggeration, a core memory of my young adult years.
Hey @prateekpatankar! We're thrilled we were able to provoke this comment. It's hard to have a conversation if we're the only ones talking. So thank you for letting us into this delicious memory!
Two days ago I bought NS200 2024 model, I loved everything about my bike, it's ground clearance is also good which I worried about it before ,because I know the road conditions of our local area. Wherever I park my bike everyone see it which I love the most even I can not get my eyes away from it. I love it and will take care of it like my son.. ❤
Congratulations Sinu!
I have a Dominar 400 BS6 (Sorry Shumi), which I bought in 2020 for 2.35L On Road when I did not know much about how to assess and compare the handling and other aspects of a bike (Basically, not paper racing).
Initially, I was about to get the RTR 200 4v, which was priced at 1.55L, and loved everything about the bike, but the power was not exciting enough (had already gotten used to the 150 - 200 cc segment). The reason for getting the Dominar 400 was the price-to-power ratio. I spent 85k to get 20ps more, test rode by opening the throttle on a straight and was sold.
That being said, the shortcomings that I found after buying the bike, to date, are:
- Poor fit and finish, vibration noise from the mask is a major issue, which still the Bajaj service is not able to resolve.
- Unacceptable performance of Rear Brakes.
- Long Wheelbase and the Weight. I know these are not actually an issue but are hindrances when riding the bike in the city, taking U-turns, or cornering at reasonable speeds.
Do I regret buying the Dominar 400, 4 years ago?
- Not really. For someone who wanted a Naked Bike for the City, which still has good power, torque, and is fun, this was a good proposition. With its flaws evident, it still was a good compromise given the budget constraints. To this day, I do enjoy the bike, especially in the city. The weight, vibrations (not the noise), and the heavy feeling handle during turns are no longer an issue; I have just adapted to using the weight instead of wrestling with it.
Question to Shumi / MotorInc:
All of my requirements are still the same, and I want a fun-to-ride bike in the City, does making a switch from Dominar 400 to the Duke 390 sound like a sensible Upgrade? Especially given the low resale of Dominar 400 and relatively higher price of 390.
same query. I have my dominar since launch day and saw the new 390 as exciting and lightweight machine on crack. absolutely no resale value of dominar and the price of new 390 is a bit on the higher side. don’t want to get into used higher cc bikes at the new 390 price point
Hello @himanshutanwani4924 and @30harbakshsingh45! We'd always remind you (see the regrets part) that you can get used to anything, the point is you shouldn't have to. 😊
Will the 390 be an upgrade? We believe it will! The Domi has slightly greater space in the seat area, the 390 might feel a little tighter, but that aside, the new Duke will feel better in every department, and we'd be surprised if you couldn't see the jump in price as a logical jump after a test ride!
Get a test ride and let us know what you think?
It's Bengali new Year today and We're getting one of this Ep. As well
It's a sign the new year gonna be good , we can't get enough of Shumi and Kartikeya❤
Happy new year @ach3ron11! Glad you're enjoying the MotorInc experience!
Wow that thumbnail. Never seen shumi smiling that much
Thanks Rupesh!
I'm pretty sure Shumi designed this himself 😂
Takes me back to the PTRChannel days, the NS200 video was one of the first to get me into motorcycling!
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And include their Duke 200 video, they were just Bonkers!
Yeah bro❤
I have 2019 BS4 model, Done 53,000 Kms.( 70% of it in the Delhi's Traffic, rest on highways and Streets, So many times on Yamuna Expressway) without Any major issues, still running the original clutch Plates.
Replaced the chain Sprocket at 40,000kms( not to agree with the people's complaint that its Chain set wears out at 12-15k ) Tyres at 35000kms. It's running without any issues.
my complaints are its Weight and Mileage!
What mileage are you getting???
Brings back memories in late 90s or early 2000s.. I remember a ad in a magazine hero Honda was launching the passion in a full page advertisement with a quote “Born in a studio” and few page later Pulsars full page ad “Born in a gym not in a studio” - that cracked me up. Loved the first generation pulsar I was drooling on the ads. The bike appeared raw with the huge tank for that generation. Loved the DTSI for the design after that I didn’t even keep track of the next versions.
I own a 2012 200ns and 12 year later I still take my friday evening joy rides on it... That's truely a fun bike to ride...
Oh sweet! Thanks for letting us know.
Anyone remember AS150 and AS200 adventure pulsars?? 22:19
I didn't remember them but saw them recently and I was like "When was this even released?"
What a debacle that was 😳
I call it the Forgotten Pulsars.
huh, in which world I was when these bikes were released. I'll need to see some videos of it be right back
The As pulsars came when ns 200 was removed from the market but then demand for the ns started back and the sales of as 150 and as 200 weren't good so they pulled them off from the market
The launch and success of Hero Honda CBZ in 1999 showed that there was demand for performance bikes. Bajaj took the cue from there on and launched the Pulsar twins (150cc and 180cc) in India on 24 November 2001.
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Started my Vishu by watching this video, Happy Vishu to all the free spirits @MotorInc. Thanks for making the day special😊
Happy Vishu to you, Manish! And to everyone celebrating!
When this bike was launched back in 2012 , I was in my 5th standard. I fell in love with it at first sight. And finally in 2023 I got my hands over my 1st motorbike, i.e. PULSAR NS200 BS6 PHASE 2 . It made me wait for more than a decade . But it was absolutely worth the wait. 😊😊😊😊
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Goodmorning @motorinc....a great start of the day listening to you guys... Always dreamt of owning the Pulsar 200ns..
Our pleasure Siman!
Bajaj is one of the few that knows how to price their product be it NS series , N250 , the KTMs or the triumph they've been killin it . I think they are hesitant to seriously update the motorcycle because it will also update the price which destroys the value for money advantage it has going for it.
Thanks for sharing your perspective @notad3tya129! Good morning! ❤️
In the Philippines, it is called Kawasaki-Bajaj Rouser 200NS, got mine in 2015 and still impress with the motor and performance. A true value for the money.
Hullo TLR! Glad to hear from Philippines! Is it popular there?
Great episode to watch with my Sunday morning breakfast! Here's an idea for the Bajaj line - Keep the lower capacities to the P - P125, P150. N160 is retired coz it's so close to the NS160. Keep only the N250. Dominar becomes an ADV platform as you perfectly put it (I personally know three friends who bought Dominars specifically to go touring, so it makes perfect sense). And we can have three differentiated Pulsars on the NS line. NS160 - More affordable sports naked. NS200 - A good sports naked and a proper competitor to the RTR 200 4V. And NS400 whoch sits at the top of the range.
Also, as an aside, can we have something like the 600 vs 650 situation, in that the NS200 can be the racy sports type of bike that revs quite a lot and feels poised for handling and top end and we can have the N250 as the torquey easy going bike that isn't quite so top end focused and instead focused more on mid range grunt? Not sure how much effect that would have in the 200-250cc class but food for thought
Good points in there @dhara1002! Thanks!
You guys are such a joy to watch and hear! True blu motorheads!! Your sense of time is around bikes and like....its just shows that you breath moto!! Kudos!
Thanks MKN! How are you doing? All well?
@@motorinc yes sir..all good...just that the boring part of life kept me busy for a while.... :) am back biking...off to Hyd from Bangalore to begin with...
Oooh sweet! Happy days! Safe and memorable riding!
I own a BS6 NS200. Before buying I had a chance to ride NS, Apache and Gixxer 250 in the ghat sections of Goa and just because of the engine and character I bought this motorcycle. It feels raw compared to its counterparts. Handling is pretty good as well.
Been trying to upgrade to a 350-400cc motorcycle but I want the similar character which the NS200 provides.
Thanks for letting us know Abhishek! Do let us know how the upgrade goes!
NS400
I have shared my emotion towards pulsar brand in an older video and I’m happy to retain it. I saw how much shumi is cutely excited about this bike- u were like a 20y old guy sharing his fun riding this motorcycle. This is a lite and fun not so serious motorcycle.
I like Karthik’s summary and shumis blasts from blas. V v cute episode. Sarcasms were all fun and cute. This s so much fun. It felt like a standup show. I’m waiting for N400.
I own the first 200ns that came out back in 2012, and it is my daily go to bike. It's in an alright shape considering it's been ridden consistently for 12 years now. The instrument cluster doesn't work, but everything else is pretty much the same. The quality of the ride experience itself hasn't gone down. But it is dated, and when I saw this thumbnail and title, I though I might jump the gun and get it the next day. But Bajaj really needs to up the standards of how they themselves look at 200ns. It is not your model that just is, it's your current running legacy of a bike template, that demands so much more out of it's existence. Guess I'm sticking with my oldie for now. Thanks a lot Shumi and Karthik! Great conversation!
Bought ns200 (2023) model two months back. It's been a sensational bike 🖤. (BTW that noise @8k 😍)
Congratulations Ryan! How has the experience been? Service?
I love how it have 3-4 sounds profile at higher rpm like a rocket
At standby bassy sound
I like at 3-4k rpm where it sounds like duke 😂
@@motorincI live at Old Goa, Goa. So the service centre experience from the centre closest to me (St. Inez, Panaji/Panjim) is decent. But most of bajaj owners (my friends) suggest to service at Mapusa City (it's a little far but good service experience according to them.)
Thanks Ryan!
Funny enough this episode was released earlier on Spotify and then on TH-cam
Btw really love your channel since it is the only one I can trust regarding bikes and other vehicles ❤
It’s always like that because podcast platforms take much longer to deploy episodes than YT. 🤷🏽♂️
Glad you’re enjoying the MotorInc experience! Thanks Aadii!
@@motorinc I have been watching your videos since last couple of months and i really like them, thought of appreciating you guys today for your hard work
Thank you very much!
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Nostalgia … bought it in relaunch year… 2012… still parked outside… and still crave for it
Oh that’s just awesome to hear! 😍
Guys, this now my go to channel for automobiles. A very nuanced analysis. Great insights.
In the recent 1-2 weeks, the ads have become very intrusive - an ad almost every 3 mins really disturbs the flow and fun in longer videos...
Hey Ashok! We've always worked towards keeping ads to the minimum - we'll recheck what's going on. There's a lower limit below which YT doesn't let us go though - just so you know
You can opt for TH-cam premium 😁no ads
They need to make money afterall. Buy YT premium then but yeah i agree YT has become kinda mindless with the ads
It will be relaunched in 2036 as the Bajaj Classic😅
You are right, actually they mention the standard pulsars as the "classic pulsars" in the ns400z launch event
@@anindyamitra5091 That original design with round headlamps was better than what they have now anyways
@@user-su3tj7gx3n I agree, that 2001 pulsar 180 looked big and much like a cafe racer
1) 10/10 for summary (2 extra for the shirt Kartik sir looks like a billionaire)
2) don't you think if a 200 will be so perfect say ns200 it will hamper the sell of 250s
3) you 2 remind me of my math teachers in Graduation . I respect them a lot ❤,
Shumi sir 🙏 🙌 👏 ❤
Thanks @sss23! Bajaj's public policy has been that bikes competing with each other within the Bajaj brand doesn't trouble them
I have the first gen 200ns manufactured in 2013. The guttural sound it makes in its upper rev band is something else in this category of motorcycles. Makes me grin everytime i have a chance to do that. I happened to rode a n250 sometime back. It was good but that raw character and that roar was missing.
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8:31 i miss the days when we had simple analog clocks and even tastefully done digi-analog ones. Love the ones on the original RE twins.
YASS!! Honestly good to see some classic pulsar reviews here and there they are really some nice bikes , maybe next to LORD SPLENDOR❤
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Reasons to buy pulsar NS 200 Over other bikes on this segment or this price range
1. Value for Money
2. Very powerful liquid cooled engine
3.comfortable for both rider and pillion
4.Now comes with Full digital instrument console, Duel channel abs and usd forks
How it is better than it's competitors
1. MT-15 (uncomfortable pillion seat)
2. RTR 200 lacks 6th gear and powerful engine
3.Duke 200 very expensive
4. N250 lacks 6th Gear and Top end performance
So the other day, my roommate and me went to choose a bike and the first thing I heard was let's take on new pulsars, having not enjoyed the 5kms test drive we went and asked for NS 200 and immediately it was a pleasure to ride. So surely there is something great with NS 200, but it needs to be updated because there is surely the thing for that wolf design they go and that sound from the engine.
Hello @motorinc fam! I'm back on the comments!! Glad to be here once again!
Pulsar has started to feel like a van gogh painting in the middle of a modern art studio. It has it's own fantastic characteristics but there's just so much more that the rivals offer that for new buyers, which are primarily going to be modern, tech-savvy youngsters, that the pulsar just doesn't appeal to that target audience that it was intended for.
I remember checking out the NS125 when I was planning to buy my first motorcycle a year ago, and it just didn't appeal to me, primarily because I had seen the NS series on the road for so long, I didn't want to appear "stuck with the old-school" bike, which is why I ended up buying the TVS Raider, which was a more modern, approachable, and more rewarding motorcycle in terms of novelty.
Also, the Dominar as a platform has always been advertised to be a motorcycle where you just throw on your luggage and go see the world. Unfortunately it doesn't live up to it's own claims and is just a bit underwhelming, and this is coming from a guy who has not even ridden it.
What surprises me is that Bajaj has now worked with so many fantastic overseas motorcycles, and yet chooses to neglect their own products that could turn the market upside down if done right. Bajaj seems to be running the theory of "if it works, don't touch it", which I feel is now making it's products run more on existing reputation than fresh appeal.
A new dad will recommend his child a pulsar because he remembers the bike's reliability, but I doubt a younster would choose a pulsar all on their own.
Also, I loved the outtakes, Shumi fumbling words and Kartik's jacket story!
Eagerly waiting for your views on the 250, and the launch of the 400, hoping it's a breath of fresh air for Bajaj!
Love and cheers,
CB
Welcome back Chaitanya! Where've you been? All well?
Such a great point! The no-broken-no-fix strategy works when the rest of the world is moving slowly but when the rivals speed up, the NBNF guys just look slow and the products as a result old-school! So true!
i have a simple question ...a rider is going to attach a phone holder to the bike anyway ! then what is the point of giving turn by turn navigation and bluetooth ? they can easily make an instrument cluster which is easy to read ! then why this companies still not doing it properly?
As Shumi said - people seem to shop for it although they don’t use it 🤷🏽♂️
@@motorinc HMM....btw please bring a view episode of xtreme 125r asap...im going to exchange my father's CD deluxe (BS2) with xtreme ! so im waiting for this episode to get a proper expert opinion for this bike to know the quality levels, performance and riding experience !
It's Sunday again. 🎉
Btw, any chance of episode for Honda cb350
Hey Bhuvan! There’s always a chance but still no word on the 350 unfortunately
Excellently summarized! It's a 10/10 experience every time hearing you guys about bikes that are crucial to our ever-evolving motorcycling scene.
I think a significant challenge facing the Bajaj brand presently pertains to its convoluted product portfolio. Optimal brand positioning could have been achieved through a refined and exclusive lineup strategy, focusing on enhancing the riding experience through the systematic introduction of innovative technologies across successive iterations of flagship models such as the NS and RS. This strategic approach would likely have solidified the NS model as a preeminent choice within its market segment.
P, N, NS, regular Pulsars, there's too much going on there. "What replaces what" is something even they haven't figured it out. Retiring a product saying the newer lineup will replace it, and then resurrecting it, though as a sales-focused brand, makes sense, but for a brand that aims to capitalize on the experiences of a motorcycling enthusiast like us, it simply won't do. If 220 was to be replaced, replace it with F250, no need for N, make the quality improvements on existing NS like what you introduced to the world with N, and let it breathe in the air of strong recall value. And it will indeed do good. Keep it sorted.
This "if it ain't broke, dont fix it" way of operations won't work for long in this adaptible market. It might help generate quick sales, but as a brand, you will lose the base, and that is not good.
Beautifully put, Vaibhav! We'd go further. Customers can be consumers of a product range, but the job of curating their choices and experience must remain something that the creator has to be actively engaged in. When you focus on allowing choices to be guided by market forces, you are automatically behind the movement, as it were. Thanks for reminding us of this simple tenet!
NS200 is liquid cooled, while RTR200 is oil cooled. NS200 is more versatile for long hauls than RTR 200 since it manages the heat better. Oil cooling is just a marketing term for air cooled
As Shumi says, equipment is what equipment does. In our experience neither of the two bikes have enough heat-related issues for the liquid cooling to be superior to the oil-cooling in daily use, even on long hauls. Technically, liquid-cooling _is_ superior to oil-cooling. But engineers will always prefer the less complex solution if it works. It's the marketing guys who will embellish the more complex solution as a feature.
@@motorinc ....oil cooled is better and low maintenance as one doesn't have to fret about coolant, radiator fan, thermostat, sensors and hoses etc. its peace of mind.
@ampassionstruck9138: All of Shumi's bikes are liquid-cooled... we've never seen him fret, just saying
Can we expect a review on the updated n250? From the looks of it the n250 is a promising vfm bike, we would love to hear your take on it! Cheers
Coming soon Amrut!
I just love your 2 wheeler review. I might not go with your recommendation but I love the conversation style. It's like a group of friends chilling and talking
Glad you like MotorInc First! Thanks!
Used to be a avid pulsar fan and bought this bike when it was originally a Pulsar 200NS in blue shade. Still own it and love it. Always puts a smile on my face. Kudos for pointing out that Bajaj hasn't given a chance to upgrade within the Bajaj family. And seeing what Bajaj has done to the beloved Pulsar brand never going back to Bajaj ever again.
Ps: there was a NS150 along the way before the NS160
Thanks for sharing, Manoj!
NS is the gareeb ka KTM this is the reason bajaj is not updating it, beacuse if they update it as per the standards of present time it will eat up the sales of the KTMs. So, they are making it for the persons who want cheep thrills. If want a KTM and you did not have the money to buy one you can go for a NS.
So what you meant to say is... Pulsar is showing pity to KTM by not upgrading the NS. Else, it would leave KTM NAKED in SPORT 😆😆😆
@@bisoulmanic ek hi company hai bacche dono
What a awful thought
Kinda make sense
Hey what other options do you suggest if not the ns 200 in the 150-250 cc range
A beautiful story told in this episode, It took me back to when I had the Pulsar 200 (oil-cooled) 18 bhp and it was a joy to ride. I could so associate it with seating position and the distinct sound. Honestly, I lost track of the Pulsars post the 220F it was just too many bikes that they did, I am expecting more from Bajaj especially since they have worked with Kawasaki, KTM, and now Triumph, there is so much potential and I do want to see Bajaj making that crazy ADV or a Scrambler bike. which will feed the enthusiasts with some meat. Kudos to the Motorinc team loved the puns on Ganz's
I'm generally watch this convo not because i am interested in buying this bike but to listen Shumi sir knowledge and funny anecdotes about bikes... Also u really did broadened my knowledge about bike's
I still have my 200NS Tosca Red from 2013, he has crossed 1 lakh KM and when I approached my regular service guy, he said change only the carburettor and nothing else is required. That's it!
I loved your description of NS200! I was not sure you'll review it after as it is so old, but this was a pleasant surprise!
I own an AS200 from 2015, and it has covered only 19000+ km as I lived abroad for several years. I am tempted to go for the new N250 because it sounds so much effortless and higher quality. However, I feel it lacks the wow factor of my Pulsar.
My AS200 requires frequent gear changes in city, not the most refined and is beginning to show its age (parts replacement and all). But it is great on highways, I get that rush past 5000 rpm and I still love its looks after all these years. I feel I should hold on to that and wait for a Duke 250, which would be a proper upgrade rather than the N250.
Hey @kurroth! All well?
*However, I feel it lacks the wow factor of my Pulsar.*
We think you just summed up the issue with the new bikes!
@@motorinc Learned this from the best actually!
I got the notification of this video on my phone. Rushed to find the TV remote and enjoyed while sipping on some coffee. The content you guys put out is pure cinema !!
Thank you so much Sandip! ♥️
Great Discussion on Pulsar 200NS. Now waiting for such type of wonderful talk on N250 too before bajaj brings out, hopefully the most aspirational Pulsar NS400. These 2 discussions on NS200 and N250 will surely set the ground on what to expect from NS400.
Great Going Motorinc team!!!
Found your content always coming from heart and with logics without any bias. Thanks!!!
Hey what should I choose bw n250 and mt15 for city riding
i own BS3 2015 NS200 and i am never gonna leave it now
My first bike was a 2012 Bajaj 200NS in red. Great memories. After a while on the seat, I distinctly remember it causing a lot of discomfort. And one time, since it did not have ABS, I fell because my rear wheel locked up and I could not control the skid any longer. It looked absolutely bonkers, so aggressive, sounded like a Pulsar on steroids and honestly it looked even better than the Duke 200. Bajaj QC was shit and I had to get the battery changed in the first 6 months because it was pretty much dead, switch gear was cheap af, I still remember the button under the dash, what a cheap button that was, it was like an inflated piece of rubber with no clickiness. I sold it after 3 years because I had to go abroad and took it around for a short ride before the airport taxi arrived, think my 200NS was the only thing I was a little sad about in the overall excitement of a new beginning.
I love how the quick summary just summed up my NS200 (2012) which is the reason why I have never given it away
Awesome! How old is your baby Dheeraj?
Completed a total of 11 years in total ( I brought it as second owner in 2017)
Awesome!
I used to ride a Pulsar 150 DTSI a decade ago. The soul of that bike was something else. The service centre in Goa messed up the bike but I gave Bajaj another chance. Bought a Discover 150, which the service centre messed up again. Bajaj needs to not only sort out their product line but also needs to ensure proper after sales.
Another great first impressions..... Kudos to the video editor of motorinc. Been waiting for Honda cb300r for a while now:(
SIR i was a very big fan of pulsers and i used to think top speed is the only thing in a bike which i should consider. Then shumi sir explained many things about riding and thank you sir im a very good responsible rider on the streets.
And after your review i got my self classic 350 so thanks for that .
What a wholesome take on the bike!!! NS200 always was sprightly albeit a bit old school feeling.
But @motorinc can we please bring the effort-power curve graph into atleast these kinds of bikes which you showed us in the DUKE 250 (Motorinc First) video.
Can do Adrish! Thanks for reminding us!
Here to upscale as a rider and a bike enthusiast. The quality of content you guys have been delivering is top notch and setting the bar high. Thumbs up for such elaborate yet precise presentation.
Also been hearing about RTR 200 references all across your videos, eagerly looking to a dedicated video on it someday. Keep doing such amazing work, brings peace to the ear and mind!
*forward
Hi shumi,
Here again with my question after R1 . ALTHOUGH I decided not go for used R1. I'm looking buy a new cruiser. And I'm confused between Maverick and Speed 400. I took test ride of both and it seems the torqy engine of Maverick has more kick but style wise speed 400 takes the upper hand. Please advise
Hey Guys this was a fun episode.. thank you for those feel good memories that you shared about the bike NS200. Shumi pls put up those few moments of your Ride as a Short. We'd Love to see that 😉
It is such a joy to watch Shumi and Karthik sit and talk about motorcycles. I'm in love with this channel❤
Thank you so much Ajith 😀 !
Glad you're enjoying the MotorInc experience!
Thank You Guys ❤ , I Remember Asking For This , Good Vid As Always
Thanks!
I really love this channel. I can listen for hours at a stretch. Almost musical 😂. The best part are the responses
Thanks Hemant! Good to have you with us!
Hey shumi, is there any major update for rtr 200 4v in the works or should I just get one now.
You guys are awesome! loved the review.
One request can we get a review on Honda NX500?
Thanks to u guys every Sunday morning is like a festival... having tea with S&K-inc.
Oh that would be awesome. Tea with MotorInc on Sundays. That would be an awesome conversation for sure!
Your's is a phenomenal conversation. Great Reasoning.. and precise, excellent summary Kartik saab!
Thank you very much Abhijit!
Pulsar and Avenger have been the most loved bikes from Bajaj for me! This take of you guys on Pulsar and its future resonates with me so much. Excellent points and damn good explanations. Loved it!❣
Would love to also hear your take on Avenger's Future as well! Please see if that is possible!
Putting up the points priority wise, which I think is required to make this bike a great street naked.
1. Updated suspension
2. Better break feeback. (My friend owns bs4 ns 200 abs and got the 220f metal break lines and that has improved the feedback a bit, don't know why bajaj is not using it by default).
3. Fit and finish quality of body pannels and switch gear, without changing the OG looks.
4. I need the instrument clusted just before this version, I will miss the analogue tachometer.
5. Traction control (not that necessary but still good to have for safety).
6. The rear break pedal is at a very bad angle and cause a lot of pain after even riding for 10km. My friend got it sorted by a local welder, bajaj should look into this.
I love the NS since it's inception and few things I absolutely don't want to change because of my personal bias.
1. Great engine (please leave it as it is).
2. Comfortable riding posture (as per Shumi it should be changed and I trust him but it should be as comfortable as it is now because many people use it for touring).
3. The naked wolf looks which we are a fan of, since we were kids.
I wanted ns200 in my college days but bajaj stopped selling it and then i had to buy AS200 bs3 , still riding the as200 and it still brings me happiness till date , going to upgrade to ns400 if it still have the ns dna otherwise will upgrade to speed 400.
Loved the way you guys explained ns200 legacy
Exactly on the point of Bajaj Flagship Question,
The expectations from NS400 are so high that,
The hype me and my friends have created around it, is so high that it's feels like a new member is coming to the family or one of us is going to be married lol!
Haha! If we were Bajaj, we'd be worried. We'd rather set expectations low and beat them by a mile than have it the other way round 🤣
Love your content! Would you be able to make a video about the new Vitpilen 250? Would you recommend it for slightly experienced bikers? I really want to purchase this bike but I would love your advice before I go through with it
When you are reviewing the new n250 please confirm whether the new changes are retrofittable in the older N/F250. I mean the mechanical changes like wider section tyres and USD forks, not the digital meter and traction control.
Don't do it, @thejuszachariah2304! The old N250 was a very nicely balanced motorcycle.... details on why this advice when MotorInc First for the N250 drops soon!
@@motorinc Thanks for the reply! I am waiting for your n250 review. 😃
Thanks to both of you. Awesome one.
Pulsar is my favorite brand since 2012. But the problem with Bajaj is that they don't value feedbacks timely. Thanks for pointing that out, too.
Keep the good work. Waiting for N250 and NS400.
Hey @theredpulsar7127! Thank you! N250 comes soon, NS400 is set for May launch
So I am a newbie regarding pulser name just bought min like 6 months ago
It's a n160 and I was so confused about the ns160 and n 160.
Just a small question cause I want to here from motorinc team especially from shumi
Could bajaj have not offered us an semi analog meter with Bluetooth?
This is such a soothing format….two legends of the game just talking abt automotive industry with actually knowledgeable content and no flashy editing and loud music and stuff. Love this format, take a bow u legends.
Thanks Pritesh! Glad you enjoyed the watch!
@@motorinc i literally watch most of the vdos on this channel even if I am not really in the market for a new car or motorcycle just bcoz of the knowledge one can get through your vdos and secondly bcz the format is just soo good and no fuss…such a fresh change from all the tik tok style content some channels do. One brilliant you guys have is without any montage of riding motorcycles in beautiful valleys nd bg music u still manage to keep the viewer hooked to the vdo throughout the length of it.
P.S. “The pulsar is cute” is something that no one would have imagined someone say a decade ago 😂😂😂 but so on point.
Thank you so much!
Aahaa 😍 waiting for the food to start the Sunday as pleasurable ❤
Thank you! ❤️
I still own NS160 2017 model and I love it. Have been on many rides and it’s just awesome.
Great to hear! Wish you many more!
You guys have nailed the motorcycle reviews scene on an another level, Every time I see your video up on my suggestions while having my morning tea brings a joy and smile on my face and peaks my curiosity to watch. Love your perspective, simplifying and the explanations of things. That Jacket reference and the N160 DTSI old school note was so relatable LOL... Absolutely loved it! Cheers MotorInc.
Thanks Shoeb! Glad you're enjoying the MotorInc experience!
Fell in love with this bike back in 2017 - in 10th grade. Bought one in 2019 in my first year of college. Yes, there are gripes with quality, Bajaj's iffy service and all that. But what a blast to ride this bike - Shumi's smile when he talks about it says it all - and mind you it's coming from a guy who's basically a demigod biker at this point. If he smiles so wide at the NS200 - safe to say I made a great purchase.
If I can add a controversial point to my comment - Bajaj made a poor decision labelling commuters and power-commuters under the Pulsar family. It has diluted the overall image of what the brand used to be. I think the N-series : the 150 to 250 all of them don't deserve the Pulsar label. Probably calling it the Discover 250 would've been better 😂
Like always, great content - I've waited for this one since the channel came out
Cheers!
Hey Harsh! That is a great point! The Pulsar brand trying to include everything in one label is definitely doing the brand name no favours for sure! And as you so accurately say, there are Pulsars today that actually feel like Discovers.
I am thinking to buy a 160 cc motorcycle and I did all the 160cc test rides finally I added n160 and rtr 160 4v in my wishlist, what bike do you recommend @mororInc
I am looking for a city ride and daily purpose use.
Since there was some amount of talk on N250s, I would like to ask a question on that. I own a N250 Dual channel version and from 8k kms onwards the bike has been giving me really bad 'missing' issues, has random missfires, throtle lag, and somewhere in between it also had an issue with a capacitor due to which battery wasn't charging..... and this is not JUST my bike, multiple of other owners also have faced similar issues! My question here is, we look at Bajaj Pulsars as a great value proposition but for this value are they sacrificing on the Quality control front as well nowadays? I have suffered so much that any bike which has any relation to Bajaj, am hesitant to even look at it due to these sort of issues. Please do raise this concerns to the Bajaj reps that you guys meet🥲. Love the work you guys do!!
You should visit the service center and ask them to change the faulty switches in the electrical circuit. There is a module which causes this issue which is replaced under warranty
Im surprised bluetooth is thought of only for navigation. Like you said, nobody uses TBT Navigation. We want a screen map for that.
My 2017 390 Duke had the best use of bluetooth. Calls & music. And full controls...for calls - pick up, disconnect (with contact name displayed). For music, start play, pause, next previous (google music, spotify, youtube etc. name of song, time duration everything.)
The screen & controls were designed amazingly and used it every single time i got on the bike.
Glad it worked for you Vivek! Thanks for letting us know!
Kartikeya genuinely brings the calm in these conversations with his ever so smiling face. And ofcourse, has the knowledge to hit the ball out of the park with his summaries. Now, if there are 5 reviews of the same bike on my feed, I'd choose MotorInc by default. It's not infotainment, it's value addition.
Sometimes i wonder if i am listening to moto info podcast or a life lesson one ..... Like it when shumi fine l give those advices... Love you guys love your work wish you the best ❤
Thanks for being with us and for these extended conversations J!