I am still surprised how two guys sitting in a studio without any vehicle present physically and doing first impression is more engaging then others doing it with the physical bike and riding on road ❤️
That's because these stalwarts together have about half a century of riding experience and not just one kinda bike but generations of bikes. They Ride, They Test, Analyze and then talk fearlessly.. thats what sets them apart. ..
A 40 minute conversation on MotorInc is worth more than a 100 vlog videos 💯 Loved how you guys acknowledged our requests and gave us an overview of the comparison of similar bikes. Question : Does TVS not giving Shumi an RTR for testing indicate that they are low on confidence? Or is it just a logistics issue? Because the TRUE colours of a product are often revealed on MotorInc
As a shy owner of the CB300R, my chest swells with pride seeing that the machine managed to find at least a mention in one of the comparisons. That alone is an achievement in my books after so many years of the machine being in production. But as Shumia said, it'd be great to see these two have a detailed sit-down about the bike and break down the pros and cons of the bike and what Honda got right and wrong with its OG 'unicorn', that is the CB300R.
Bro .. cb is soo peppy ... the acc i test rode it 2 to 3 days ago.. the bigwing guy was soo good but on a heavier build .. he was sitting as Pelion.. with him too the bike just wooshh away ...
A month back I was looking at used standard bullet 500s and had almost finalised on one when I chanced upon a conversation where Karthik was mentioning the niggles with the older models and later one where Shumi was talking about how much better the j series was. Having owned a 2009 TBTS for fifteen years and having put over 2 lakh kms on it I was sold on the idea of the new standard. Then as luck would have it, as I was finalising on the standard variant of the new standard 350 I saw a short of Shumi promoting the v strom 250 sx. I went for a test drive out of morbid curiosity. I might probably be the only person to say this but it was love at first drive. So now I sit impatiently waiting for the number plates of my suzuki to come so that I can drive it out of the showroom, no fuzz, just a full tank of fuel and nothing added onto it. Thanks guys, for helping me make a great call. Love you guys.
I clean by bike on sunday mornings after waking up and during the cleaning i always listen to one of the motor inc discussions. Listening to motorinc is slowly becoming a lifestyle for me. And the long discussions actually works well for me.
Karthi sir summarised it 10/10 for me 1) I noticed him being more firm on his opinion and made it exactly clear what his taste and expectation of motorcycle riding experience ought to be..which felt much better than some of the old reviews where I personally felt he was ready to give up when an opposing or different opinion is suggested 2)I would also like to thank shumi sir for comparing all competitors in different departments like performance to finish quality etc and what kind of expectations to be set towards each of them. 3)I have to appreciate how diffrence in opinion is communicated well while acknowledging each other as in most workplaces I had been,ego played bigtime between makes it unbearable for anyone involved
Brother , the reason because , they are not hybrid type , they are single type combustion engines, were they don’t need to be win win reviews or compromising conclusion to stop tears of existing owners 💪🏽
What I meant in firm opinion is that for most of us watchers,reviews paint an idea of what to expect for the money we pay,which most of us had to earn.so when a reviewer is firm on their opinion,it helps the viewer much better as we are taking the information at mercy of reviewer...,which if they cant stick to when introduced to different facts and ideas...how could we possibly trust their opinions for our purchase? In case of this video I felt the reviewers agree on performance charecter but disagree on their personal taste in a different use case senario,which I think 99%of us won't be doing so its rather an intresting information , than one affecting our purchase or something much as important...😊 {If there was a big disparity in setting performance expectations by the reviewers...it might get tough for us viewers}
@@maybevcouldbe that's what u think brother?i felt except RTR/honda,there was nothing much left out...even then, they still tried best to give picture(figuratively)I Suppose
Loved this Episode. Man it"s Fun and Informative at the same time. Especially I loved their Arguement🤣🤣. For me my Favourite Motorinc Videos go by this order 1. Motorinc Garage Video on Shumi's KTM 390 Duke. 2. Motorinc First on KTM 250 Duke 3. This Connect on Tyres........ and so goes the list. I have two request for videos 1. More Motorinc Garage videos especially on Shumi's Multi, Tuono and Karthikeya's Busa. 2. A Technical segment like Simplified in PD.
😅The problem is when shumi explain about how he enjoys KTM BIKES WOULD like to own one thats the way he details it like food vloggers explain about the food that they are having he explaines each and every minute flavours ❤thats what makes this video magical . Thank you 🙏🏻 Karthikeya my brother your summary will get 8 out of 10 😊
Hey Shumi and Kartikeya, I am an absolute fan of this format. Never thought that a conversation between two people could be so engaging in a video format. I may be making a bold statement, but MotorInc has created something that could give an existential crisis to podcasts. The knowledge and experience that you both have just makes this format more enjoyable. Be it 30 minutes or over an hour, I am genuinely excited to watch the videos you come up with. And, to build on that point, I would suggest a new format, where you just discuss the best ways to ride a bike (in terms of the best rev range the best gearing, etc). I have always learned how to milk the most out of a bike by riding it time and again, but listening to you makes me feel that if this information is made available, it will help many inexperienced riders enjoy their purchase much more and much faster.
Completely agree, I was a complete noob when I bought my first bike and couldn't extract the full performance for so many years. Only after I started watching more info videos on bikes I got know how to extract the full potential of my bike and that moment felt like nirvana. So an episode of educating new riders on how to optimally ride their bikes will be such a treat
39:30- Yes like Shumi said, we want both of their thoughts about HONDA Bikes spread over both their normal & bigwing showrooms.. Please have a conversation, video, podcast anything.. & Not only for Honda, for every other bike manufacturing company too.. We want to know your thoughts on where the manufacturers stand & how they fair as of 2024...
The CBR250R was without faults. Without Faults. And, I got it really early; May 2011. Again, No Faults. Been riding for 35 years, started on the Yezdi 250 CL - II. I have a Bonneville A3 now, got it in 2015, and a really old Apache 180, 2009. Both are riding good. Tempted by the Duke 250, now. And, that was a Top Notch presentation; thank you. 🙏🏼
It seemed like you two were having a lot more fun chatting about in this ep. More interactions that allowed us to see the sort of friendly banter that you guys have. Really nice video. It's always nice to see two very experienced riders talk about bikes that should (I think) normally feel underpowered to them, like they're kids just having watched Dhoom movies or something.
Thank you guys for the video.. I love my Duke 250 of 2021. The calm nature saved me when I was transitioning from my Gixxer SF. Right now its like she reads my mind on the road and we are in sync all the time. The newer ones are even better it seems and Bravo to KTM for that..
@motorinc I was just wondering if by any chance you confused the 300R with the 300F. I personally have the 300F and I'm very happy with it having done almost 22k km in 8.5 months, but I do know that there have been a lot of reviews where they mention it as a dull bike. But almost every review I've seen mentions that the 300R is an absolute pocket rocket. So would be great if you can just clarify that
I experienced one of my longest rides in Meghalaya on a Duke 250, and absolutely fell in love with it. The one little grouse back then was the LCD unit from the Duke 200 (Orange colored). It feels bizarre that even to this day Bajaj and KTN take the call to not give the best Duke the best screen. I would happily pay a premium for the color TFT. It is not a feature why anyone would jump from the 250 to the 390 (since they are quite different in character and capability) but it would make a big difference to the rider who is looking at it every single day!
Because Shumi and karthik is blend of Journalism/Motorism/DNA expresses the spontaneous delivery of the Facts . Because as shumi has the badge on his shirt , Speaking truth is the Most Powerful and Easy enough 🤝
Masterpiece from Mattighofen: Owner of the last available batch. May 2023 KTM 250 Duke, Ebony Black. 1. Amazing suspension. 10/10 Superb would be an understatement. 2. Excellent ABS. 3. Beautiful exhaust note. Great and very reliable engine and exhaust. Brilliant electronics. 4. Top notch build quality. You see it in person and you will be blown away! (if it's a clean bike) 5. The 250 is such an amazing engine for the duality it offers. It can be super snappy / agile or very relaxed! A gem of an engine. Refined for sure. It is both a cruiser and a sports bike! 6. Great brakes. The front brake is brilliant. 9.5/10 (better pads can help!) AMAZING!
This happens everytime! I'm like Karthikeya, I know that Shumi is right but still wanna be excited for Linear (Shumi Graph) Bikes which can do anything (dynamic)😊 when I demand.
Okay, i just found this channel, always been a fan of shumi regarding everything that riding encapsulates, and im so happy that yall are making such detailed videos on motorcycles, unlike our everyday cars, our interaction with motorcycles are far more intricate and a millimeter here or there might make a huge difference in how you experience a motorcycle and only an experienced rider like shumi who lives and breathes motorcycles can do it this well. So, among the sea of motovloggers and big media reviews (which feel so incomprehensive in thier rundown), this will be my only goto channel from now on. I dont even need to be in the market for a machine, how yall break it down in fun enough to watch. So Thank you guys, really appreciate it. TOP CONTENT.
Whoa @Shumi aka Guruji... That "Honda" truth was brutal, but bang on... A lot of coulda woulda shoulda surrounding the Honda products still.. It's like what Singhee Sahab said, they enter the segment unsure what to deliver and whom to compete...
I don't have money to buy right now and am still watching anything and everything as much as possible on KTM 250 and watched this episode and what a wholesome view. I hope I will wait for some batches to pass.
It always gives a smile when I'm unable to put into words the sense of what the bike gives me but then Shumi comes into play and says this happened because of this, this feels like this because of this and it perfectly matches with what I have experienced when I ride a certain bike is amazing. the little things like the wheelbase is so short and the front tire is right underneath you and it feels quick(this is exactly what I felt when I rode the old Duke 250 but couldn't put it into words for how quick it can steer) This happens to me with most of the bikes I have ridden and the sense of what it means when Shumi puts it in words. In this aspect I would love to see ur experiences and thoughts on every manufacturer (got curious when u said to leave a comment for Honda).
I guess Shumi was about to talk about the mileage but then the conversation moved to another topic. So what do you think how much would be the mileage and range with the increased tank capacity?? Anyhow, I feel you guys covered everything especially for the confusion between who should be looking to get a 250 or 390. I have been thinking of upgrading from a Gixxer SF 2015 model for quite sometime, so I am always confused between a 250 and 390 but this video made it very clear for me now. Thank you.
Mileage depends on how you ride it. I get 27 or so from my 2019 250. I know people who get 33. Basically I can’t help revving it, so the mileage suffers.
It is always advisable to get a test ride of both the bikes. They are different in character and the one which resonates with you more, consider that as final.
Hi as you adviced that dont buy the bike from 1st batch wait till june. But lets say i have to get bike by the end of this month either 250 duke or vitpilen 250 so should i wait more or is it fine to buy one now
Time flies while listening to you folks talk about bikes! Being an RE owner for close to a decade, I finally let it go, because it just didn't make sense anymore in terms of reliability, performance and maintenance. I have had my eyes on 250 ADV for a year now. This upgrade to the Duke 250 looks great. Any chance the upgrades will be transferred to 250 ADV as well?
With KTM, Triumph and others introducing powerful and lightweight bikes. Is it a wise choice to ditch the heavier RE’s for long rides? Do advice please.
Hey Arnab, both kinds of bikes have distinctly different feel and pros/cons. We'd suggest you get a test ride to get a sense of the difference in flavour and see if it suits your taste/preference
Planning to buy Duke 250 & was waiting for exactly this video. 😁 It's been a wonderful conversation, all of my questions have been answered especially Shumi's advice don't be in hurry & until 1st batch is cleared. Thanks a lot.....! ❤
10:30 onwards, just watch for a min, see how much shumi enjoys this bike.. !!! thats true feeling of how the bike feels. and see how much he enjoys telling us about this riding experience.
Really appreciate your effort @motorinc for this review👍, but I would really like you to compare CB300r vs 250 Duke, as they are nearly the same price and specs😅
Neatly done as usual, I don't know why youtube doesn't recommend this on my homepage neither was I able to find the video in the channel nor the subscription part. Now these are the small requests that I have, 1. What kind of bikes should the new riders look for, I myself haven't owned any bikes but have ridden my brother's pulsar 220f and ns200, my friends re hunter and meteor, tvs raider and splendor of course, but the confusion is what type of rider am I is still a question, I liked all bikes I've ridden, but still it's always a question, so it would be better if u guys can give an idea like buy something ride for somedays figure out change the bike😂 2. How to test ride, like what are the things we have to try while test riding the bike! It is simple but it is the key enabler of buying a bike, so what are all the aspects we should look for? [ Oh yeah forgot to add, these summary ,keep them coming]
As others have said in this thread and elsewhere, the banter, really the provocativeness of Shumi combined with the ease of Karthi, is what makes their videos work. Every creator provides knowledge. They provide information with an obnoxious aggressive personality that plays well on TH-cam. You need an aggressor and you need a calming agent. That's why people like me from a distance love watching them.
This podcast is so damn perfect that I am crystal clear that this is the bike I am looking for. I recently rented the Pulsar N160 and rode it for almost 400 kms and loved the torque and its city friendliness so much that I was planning to get the N250. But after seeing this podcast, I think this KTM matches more to what I want. My life would be miserable if I got this as it is way above my budget but I believe it will be worth the misery. Will take a test ride sometime next year.
I remember my first gen Duke 200. In the South Indian summer heat, riding with it in traffic during afternoons, if I was wearing a flip flop to move, I could feel my skin properly cooking. When I sold it, the kid who got it from me came back and told me it was too hot. So I opened up the manual and showed him the 136 degree engine heat mentioned as the operating temperature of the bike. That was funny.
Waiting to see what Husqvarna 250s can do with this chassis and engine. The current Vitpilen is a Gem (Much needed RC250 in disguise IMO) . I am Trying to get the 390's suspension to fit in on the Vitplen TOO XD.
Svarpilen 250 owner 25,000 km done in 3 years Brakes upgraded Lots of weight here and there reduced Michelin road 5 installed Vitpilen clipons installed I too am looking for the new 390’s suspension upgrade. I also did some digging to get even better stopping performance. Shall we connect and share notes ?
THANKS GUYS!! IT WAS GREAT!! (capitalization so that Shumi can read the comment.😜) . Kartikey summarized the bike pretty well, can't really point anything out. Solid Job!👍9/10 (Even the best of us have room for improvement.) . And we desperately need a discussion on the Honda situation in the CB 350 First. Great Work Everyone.👍
Ques.1 What is your take on the 250 ADV? Or the whole ADV lineup from KTM? Can't help but wonder, that something feels off about those. Comments on that.
Hey! Please do see the MotorInc First on the KTM 390 Adventure (might be Ep 01). We did discuss in detail our worries and the opportunity for the KTM Adventure line in that. Glad you enjoyed this episode Akaal!
What Shumi said about not going out to buy the first bike and to wait awhile is so spot on. 👍🏼Having owned 10 bikes over the last decade from the Hero Puch to the 1st gen KTM 390, have learnt to wait till companies have a good product before running to the showroom to buy one.
I think you guys should defintely get some time on the cb300r. It is a hoot. It is a very light bike, refined throughout the rev range. Properly quick, darts through traffic. Compact surprise.
The philosophy discussion of motorinc videos are perfect. We feel like we are included into their conversation and the discussion is having in my living room.
Thanks @motorinc for this video. Karti's summary gets a 10/10, it was spot on. I think it's the more civilized, gentlemanly one out of the trio till you poke it and when you do so, it will roll up its sleeves and will get to business real quick. I assume the adventure variant is around the corner, which means the present changes would make it an even better option for the price it's asking. Cheers!
A twelve minute review video is getting bore nowadays. But you two guys are delivering a full worth 40 minute video which I can't even skip a bit 😂❤ btw make a video on the Apache RTR 310 please.
24:00 absolutely agree with shumi and kartik and that is what i was thinking all about ever since i saw 250 and 390. Strongly feel 390’s tank shrouds are unnecessarily elongated the clean compact and sorted design of the 250 is what captivate me. 390’s engine and 250’s body would work right for me.
Booked a duke250 today, after test riding CB300R, 310R and D250. Interestingly the showroom guys told me the quick shifter is only for upshifts, was not my top priority anyway. All are great machines, this one just put a wider smile on me.
The only missing thing is the fuel economy. Clicked my tongue when Karthikeya interrupted Shumi while he is about to speak on fuel economy. Else Everything is up to the benchmark and I am rally enjoying your longer videos than the shorter one.
Shumi is right. I should've listened and waited for the later batches. I had my engine oil leak out on a 120km ride because the O-ring broke on my Scrambler 400X. Triumph replaced it under warranty, but my bike sat in the shop for a week
Today i have ridden a motorcycle for the first time.. A glamour 125. But i really want to buy a duke 250 as my first learners bike.. Is it a good idea?
@@motorinc grrr seriously, what are you guys waiting for ? 😅 I like sam manekshaw but I waited for your review videos more eagerly than the movie. Many good bike releases in India, such exciting times and you guys are like 'yet to test' 'not tested' . Those 2 are such awesome bikes. C'monn get more excited!! Overwork for few days, can chill later. (I know easy for me to say, but you guys will have your reasons😁)
Hi Shumi. Hope you're well, been loving your new look and this amazing new channel. I'm facing a very odd issue with my 2022 Duke 250 that no matter what SC I'm taking it to, is unable to figure it out. I'm posting this in this comments section here, hoping to hear your expert opinion on my problem. I was staying in Hyderabad at the time of purchase(2022), and the 250 was a beast, both in the city and on the highways on long rides. Last year, I moved to Bengaluru and that was the beginning of my bad experiences on the Duke in terms of ride quality. An insurmountable amount of potholes, speed breakers and bad roads in general exposed the characteristics of this motorcycle that I don't enjoy, at all. The ride is way too bumpy, which I am ready to accept given the not so soft suspension on the Duke, but with every bump something in the bike rattles. I've been to the KTM service countless times with this issue, all them saying its the chain that gets loose and hits the chain guard on every bump, hence the rattling sound. Even with a tight chain, it doesn't go away and neither I nor the service folks have been able to exactly figure it out. Adding to it the low ground clearance, its a headache on Bengaluru roads. Now I'm contemplating my options here. I love the engine on this beast, its so fun to just rip it open on the highway, but practically the ride experience is borderline awful for my preference. Is there any way I can fix it? Is there something that I'm missing? Will changing the tyres or the suspension solve the overall bad ride quality issue here and will it be worth? I'm ready to live with the low ground clearance in that case. Or do I sell it off to someone who'd actually enjoy it and get an ADV?
41 minutes and I'm just smiling at the way shumi explains the bike. He brings it to life so beautifully without it even being before you. I guess that's what girls feel when they read about fictional male characters. I haven't even taken a test ride but I've made up my mind to buy it this year. Thanks shumi!
Hey Shumi!!! Loved the video. 😍 And I'm from Meghalaya and so when you mentioned Meghalaya, i got highly excited. Hope you come back soon and I'm able to meet you in person. Also I would give Kartikeya a solid 10/10. Imo His summary was on par with yours for the Himalayan 452. Thank You MotorInc for these videos. You'll make my days better. ❤
Summary is 10/10 brother. Keep up the good work. Also I want to know about the engine refinement and durability Please rate it out of 10. I like to have a super refined engine with least sound and vibrations So can I go for the 2nd or 3rd batch???
Hey Shumi What is the difference between SOHC engine and DOHC engine with respect to performance? No theory please I know it. But don't know how it translates to performance.
38:47 I rode the CB300R for 15 km in a mixture of conditions and Kartikeya sums it up beautifully. Excellent city bike, doesn’t heat and is smooth but not a highway bike for sure. Feels overpriced and unreliable due to some quality issues that are still going on, unavailibilty of parts etc
Excellent conversation indeed! This makes the choice pretty easier! Yes, one thing remained : "mileage". One started to come to that point but the other one intervened. It remained. Can you please mention it?🤔
Would Duke 250 be a great first bike for someone who's ridden a activa for 7 years and mostly been a manual car driver ( Ertiga) ? Do you think going for a 390 would be better due to the car experience ?
Finally this video is out, have been waiting for this! Amazing impressions as always, I love how your videos aren't generic. The Summary deserves a 9/10 but the added points by Shumi made it 10. Also I am planning to get the 250 Duke in Jan 2024, but now after listening to you guys I am a bit scared to buy it as of now.
Hey Shumi, excellent video again. Yours are probably the only 40 to 60 mins videos I watch on TH-cam, without getting bored. Could you give your view on the mechanical noise from the engine? I remember Suzuki made Fiero (not TVS) as the smoothest engine at the time. Never experienced something like it till now, if you know what I mean. Thanks!
Guys, you are both spot on...One suggestion, please include ownership reviews in a sense that you can collect all the problems and niggles these bikes are having and then address them here which can help us as buyers make informed decisions as well as bike manufactures to do their best to finish those niggles ASAP.
@motorinc I don't know if you guys get this a lot... But please do a long conversation about the Honda CB300R. Its always intrigued me as a product and now that Honda has adjusted its pricing, it appears to be probably the best naked motorcycle for me and probably the best Honda product in India right now. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this machine and I'm sure I'm not alone.
Just took a visit to ktm showroom to check out Duke 250 but left also impressed by the Vitpilen 250. What would be the better bike in terms of comfort and just take anywhere everyday use?
Hi i think shumi was about to say about range and efficiency of duke 250 but it was skipped by some topic diversion.. Can you tell me in comments.. I can check it in internet but i believe it would be better if i know from shumi's perspective.. Glad this man opens up a new perspective of this machine.
I saw a video about installing a 390 coloured TFT on 200, the guy mentioned that you have to buy a 390 module and a 390 headlight to make it work. And he estimated the price around 20-25k
Shumi going into talking about honda as brand made me wanna listen to you guys talk about brands of motorcycles at length and their india vs international aspects. would be so intresting
Every bike review I see on your channel, I would like to immediately go and take a test ride! The way you narrate, spot on. My breaks during the ride is a coffee on the road side shop and rerun of any of your reviews 😅
i have been getting insta adverts for the new duke 250 with the black wheels, then i look up youtube an we already have a whole podcast for the bike from motorinc, i should consider this as a sign👀
Seeing the interaction and teasing that goes between these two is always a pleasure. You can always see Shumi's face light up when talking about his favourites.
I am still surprised how two guys sitting in a studio without any vehicle present physically and doing first impression is more engaging then others doing it with the physical bike and riding on road ❤️
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I think we can visualize the bike as we have seen many first ride review before this podcast.
That's because these stalwarts together have about half a century of riding experience and not just one kinda bike but generations of bikes. They Ride, They Test, Analyze and then talk fearlessly.. thats what sets them apart. ..
I guess we already know what the bike looks like. We want important questions answered on how it rides like. That's why we come here
Because no annoying music
I think Bajaj gained much more expertise with their KTM partnership than what TVS got with their BMW one.
It certainly appears to be the case, Sarath!
Because bajaj bought half of ktm. It wasnt a normal partnership like bmw, triumph or HD
Aaand they launched nothing under the Bajaj name
@@Vikrum_the NS200, RS200 and Dominar 400 all used tech they got from the KTM partnership
@@muhammadfaheem3746 ancient models, no updation
A 40 minute conversation on MotorInc is worth more than a 100 vlog videos 💯 Loved how you guys acknowledged our requests and gave us an overview of the comparison of similar bikes.
Question : Does TVS not giving Shumi an RTR for testing indicate that they are low on confidence? Or is it just a logistics issue? Because the TRUE colours of a product are often revealed on MotorInc
Thanks Gaureesh!
As a shy owner of the CB300R, my chest swells with pride seeing that the machine managed to find at least a mention in one of the comparisons. That alone is an achievement in my books after so many years of the machine being in production.
But as Shumia said, it'd be great to see these two have a detailed sit-down about the bike and break down the pros and cons of the bike and what Honda got right and wrong with its OG 'unicorn', that is the CB300R.
Planning to buy one any thoughts ??
Bro .. cb is soo peppy ... the acc i test rode it 2 to 3 days ago.. the bigwing guy was soo good but on a heavier build .. he was sitting as Pelion.. with him too the bike just wooshh away ...
U don't need anyone's validation to like your motorcycle
Honda will not provide them with a test bike
Simple
A month back I was looking at used standard bullet 500s and had almost finalised on one when I chanced upon a conversation where Karthik was mentioning the niggles with the older models and later one where Shumi was talking about how much better the j series was. Having owned a 2009 TBTS for fifteen years and having put over 2 lakh kms on it I was sold on the idea of the new standard.
Then as luck would have it, as I was finalising on the standard variant of the new standard 350 I saw a short of Shumi promoting the v strom 250 sx. I went for a test drive out of morbid curiosity. I might probably be the only person to say this but it was love at first drive. So now I sit impatiently waiting for the number plates of my suzuki to come so that I can drive it out of the showroom, no fuzz, just a full tank of fuel and nothing added onto it.
Thanks guys, for helping me make a great call. Love you guys.
Oooh! Congratulations Hari! Do let us know how the experience with the VSX goes!
I clean by bike on sunday mornings after waking up and during the cleaning i always listen to one of the motor inc discussions. Listening to motorinc is slowly becoming a lifestyle for me. And the long discussions actually works well for me.
Oh man! Thanks so much for sharing that with us!
Karthi sir summarised it 10/10 for me
1) I noticed him being more firm on his opinion and made it exactly clear what his taste and expectation of motorcycle riding experience ought to be..which felt much better than some of the old reviews where I personally felt he was ready to give up when an opposing or different opinion is suggested
2)I would also like to thank shumi sir for comparing all competitors in different departments like performance to finish quality etc and what kind of expectations to be set towards each of them.
3)I have to appreciate how diffrence in opinion is communicated well while acknowledging each other as in most workplaces I had been,ego played bigtime between makes it unbearable for anyone involved
Thanks so much Avinash! Appreciate the feedback.
Brother , the reason because , they are not hybrid type , they are single type combustion engines, were they don’t need to be win win reviews or compromising conclusion to stop tears of existing owners 💪🏽
What I meant in firm opinion is that for most of us watchers,reviews paint an idea of what to expect for the money we pay,which most of us had to earn.so when a reviewer is firm on their opinion,it helps the viewer much better as we are taking the information at mercy of reviewer...,which if they cant stick to when introduced to different facts and ideas...how could we possibly trust their opinions for our purchase?
In case of this video I felt the reviewers agree on performance charecter but disagree on their personal taste in a different use case senario,which I think 99%of us won't be doing so its rather an intresting information , than one affecting our purchase or something much as important...😊
{If there was a big disparity in setting performance expectations by the reviewers...it might get tough for us viewers}
Broo the second point 😂 when did they compare? He said we haven't ridden the bikes.
@@maybevcouldbe that's what u think brother?i felt except RTR/honda,there was nothing much left out...even then, they still tried best to give picture(figuratively)I Suppose
Loved this Episode. Man it"s Fun and Informative at the same time. Especially I loved their Arguement🤣🤣.
For me my Favourite Motorinc Videos go by this order
1. Motorinc Garage Video on Shumi's KTM 390 Duke.
2. Motorinc First on KTM 250 Duke
3. This Connect on Tyres........ and so goes the list.
I have two request for videos
1. More Motorinc Garage videos especially on Shumi's Multi, Tuono and Karthikeya's Busa.
2. A Technical segment like Simplified in PD.
Thanks Sid! Suggestions noted and we're happy to say that it's being worked on!
Ohh yes, we definitely need more motorinc garage videos ❤
Techinal Segments are really needed, I loved the Simplified series!!
Yeah the Simplified series did by Shumi was Amazing.
What a Sunday morning it is .... As always its beautiful hearing you both just uplift the mood. Thank you for most beautiful discussion in youtube ❤
Have an awesome Sunday! And, thanks!
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😅The problem is when shumi explain about how he enjoys KTM BIKES WOULD like to own one thats the way he details it like food vloggers explain about the food that they are having he explaines each and every minute flavours ❤thats what makes this video magical .
Thank you 🙏🏻
Karthikeya my brother your summary will get 8 out of 10 😊
Shumi is the face of Indian motorcycle patriotism. He always calls the Japanese out over their treatment of our riders and market 😂
Hey Shumi and Kartikeya, I am an absolute fan of this format. Never thought that a conversation between two people could be so engaging in a video format. I may be making a bold statement, but MotorInc has created something that could give an existential crisis to podcasts. The knowledge and experience that you both have just makes this format more enjoyable. Be it 30 minutes or over an hour, I am genuinely excited to watch the videos you come up with. And, to build on that point, I would suggest a new format, where you just discuss the best ways to ride a bike (in terms of the best rev range the best gearing, etc). I have always learned how to milk the most out of a bike by riding it time and again, but listening to you makes me feel that if this information is made available, it will help many inexperienced riders enjoy their purchase much more and much faster.
Great suggestion! Thanks Kartik!
Completely agree, I was a complete noob when I bought my first bike and couldn't extract the full performance for so many years. Only after I started watching more info videos on bikes I got know how to extract the full potential of my bike and that moment felt like nirvana. So an episode of educating new riders on how to optimally ride their bikes will be such a treat
39:30- Yes like Shumi said, we want both of their thoughts about HONDA Bikes spread over both their normal & bigwing showrooms..
Please have a conversation, video, podcast anything..
& Not only for Honda, for every other bike manufacturing company too..
We want to know your thoughts on where the manufacturers stand & how they fair as of 2024...
Yes exactly.
Suggested noted Swagat! Thanks!
The CBR250R was without faults. Without Faults. And, I got it really early; May 2011. Again, No Faults. Been riding for 35 years, started on the Yezdi 250 CL - II. I have a Bonneville A3 now, got it in 2015, and a really old Apache 180, 2009. Both are riding good. Tempted by the Duke 250, now. And, that was a Top Notch presentation; thank you. 🙏🏼
Thank you @mathewcheruvathoor4693!
How is it 35 years if u bought it in 2011
It seemed like you two were having a lot more fun chatting about in this ep. More interactions that allowed us to see the sort of friendly banter that you guys have. Really nice video. It's always nice to see two very experienced riders talk about bikes that should (I think) normally feel underpowered to them, like they're kids just having watched Dhoom movies or something.
Thanks ADV8!
@@motorinc it makes the viewers feel closer and a part of the experience
I like the friendly banter too. It makes for fun viewing. From a distance only though. Haha.
Thank you guys for the video.. I love my Duke 250 of 2021. The calm nature saved me when I was transitioning from my Gixxer SF. Right now its like she reads my mind on the road and we are in sync all the time. The newer ones are even better it seems and Bravo to KTM for that..
Great video. But I am interested in the unfinished talk about the CB300R. Would you mind reviewing that?
We don't mind. But Honda's been very stingy with their test bikes so far 🤷🏽♂️
@motorinc I was just wondering if by any chance you confused the 300R with the 300F. I personally have the 300F and I'm very happy with it having done almost 22k km in 8.5 months, but I do know that there have been a lot of reviews where they mention it as a dull bike. But almost every review I've seen mentions that the 300R is an absolute pocket rocket. So would be great if you can just clarify that
I experienced one of my longest rides in Meghalaya on a Duke 250, and absolutely fell in love with it.
The one little grouse back then was the LCD unit from the Duke 200 (Orange colored). It feels bizarre that even to this day Bajaj and KTN take the call to not give the best Duke the best screen. I would happily pay a premium for the color TFT. It is not a feature why anyone would jump from the 250 to the 390 (since they are quite different in character and capability) but it would make a big difference to the rider who is looking at it every single day!
Better explained than the Austrian guys... Hell yeah 👍👍
What a comprehensive practical review.
Well done @motorinc 👍
Thank you!
Because Shumi and karthik is blend of Journalism/Motorism/DNA expresses the spontaneous delivery of the Facts . Because as shumi has the badge on his shirt , Speaking truth is the Most Powerful and Easy enough 🤝
Masterpiece from Mattighofen:
Owner of the last available batch. May 2023 KTM 250 Duke, Ebony Black.
1. Amazing suspension. 10/10 Superb would be an understatement.
2. Excellent ABS.
3. Beautiful exhaust note. Great and very reliable engine and exhaust. Brilliant electronics.
4. Top notch build quality. You see it in person and you will be blown away! (if it's a clean bike)
5. The 250 is such an amazing engine for the duality it offers. It can be super snappy / agile or very relaxed! A gem of an engine. Refined for sure. It is both a cruiser and a sports bike!
6. Great brakes. The front brake is brilliant. 9.5/10 (better pads can help!) AMAZING!
42 to 55 kmpl on highway? are those figures even true?
My friend had retrofitted his duke250(older model) with the 390s tft it works just fine
@@shyamsundar-th2ev so he put old 390s console in the new 250?
This happens everytime! I'm like Karthikeya, I know that Shumi is right but still wanna be excited for Linear (Shumi Graph) Bikes which can do anything (dynamic)😊 when I demand.
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Should i go for vitpilen 250 or duke 250. Does vitpilen 250 feel like the duke 250s power ? For me saving money would be nice. Liked both the bikes.
Okay, i just found this channel, always been a fan of shumi regarding everything that riding encapsulates, and im so happy that yall are making such detailed videos on motorcycles, unlike our everyday cars, our interaction with motorcycles are far more intricate and a millimeter here or there might make a huge difference in how you experience a motorcycle and only an experienced rider like shumi who lives and breathes motorcycles can do it this well. So, among the sea of motovloggers and big media reviews (which feel so incomprehensive in thier rundown), this will be my only goto channel from now on. I dont even need to be in the market for a machine, how yall break it down in fun enough to watch. So Thank you guys, really appreciate it. TOP CONTENT.
Whoa @Shumi aka Guruji...
That "Honda" truth was brutal, but bang on...
A lot of coulda woulda shoulda surrounding the Honda products still..
It's like what Singhee Sahab said, they enter the segment unsure what to deliver and whom to compete...
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I don't have money to buy right now and am still watching anything and everything as much as possible on KTM 250 and watched this episode and what a wholesome view. I hope I will wait for some batches to pass.
It always gives a smile when I'm unable to put into words the sense of what the bike gives me but then Shumi comes into play and says this happened because of this, this feels like this because of this and it perfectly matches with what I have experienced when I ride a certain bike is amazing. the little things like the wheelbase is so short and the front tire is right underneath you and it feels quick(this is exactly what I felt when I rode the old Duke 250 but couldn't put it into words for how quick it can steer)
This happens to me with most of the bikes I have ridden and the sense of what it means when Shumi puts it in words. In this aspect I would love to see ur experiences and thoughts on every manufacturer (got curious when u said to leave a comment for Honda).
Glad to have you on the same page, RK!
I guess Shumi was about to talk about the mileage but then the conversation moved to another topic. So what do you think how much would be the mileage and range with the increased tank capacity??
Anyhow, I feel you guys covered everything especially for the confusion between who should be looking to get a 250 or 390. I have been thinking of upgrading from a Gixxer SF 2015 model for quite sometime, so I am always confused between a 250 and 390 but this video made it very clear for me now. Thank you.
Mileage depends on how you ride it. I get 27 or so from my 2019 250. I know people who get 33. Basically I can’t help revving it, so the mileage suffers.
It is always advisable to get a test ride of both the bikes. They are different in character and the one which resonates with you more, consider that as final.
Hi as you adviced that dont buy the bike from 1st batch wait till june. But lets say i have to get bike by the end of this month either 250 duke or vitpilen 250 so should i wait more or is it fine to buy one now
Time flies while listening to you folks talk about bikes!
Being an RE owner for close to a decade, I finally let it go, because it just didn't make sense anymore in terms of reliability, performance and maintenance.
I have had my eyes on 250 ADV for a year now. This upgrade to the Duke 250 looks great.
Any chance the upgrades will be transferred to 250 ADV as well?
Man I never listened my class that attentively 🤷🏻♂️
With KTM, Triumph and others introducing powerful and lightweight bikes. Is it a wise choice to ditch the heavier RE’s for long rides? Do advice please.
Hey Arnab, both kinds of bikes have distinctly different feel and pros/cons. We'd suggest you get a test ride to get a sense of the difference in flavour and see if it suits your taste/preference
Planning to buy Duke 250 & was waiting for exactly this video. 😁
It's been a wonderful conversation, all of my questions have been answered especially Shumi's advice don't be in hurry & until 1st batch is cleared.
Thanks a lot.....! ❤
Thanks for waiting! And all the best!
Go For Husqvarna 250. The pillion seat is Comfortable in it.
10:30 onwards, just watch for a min, see how much shumi enjoys this bike.. !!! thats true feeling of how the bike feels. and see how much he enjoys telling us about this riding experience.
Really appreciate your effort @motorinc for this review👍, but I would really like you to compare CB300r vs 250 Duke, as they are nearly the same price and specs😅
Once we get a test bike...
Went ahead and bought a Duke 250 after watching your video! Thank you!
Neatly done as usual, I don't know why youtube doesn't recommend this on my homepage neither was I able to find the video in the channel nor the subscription part.
Now these are the small requests that I have,
1. What kind of bikes should the new riders look for, I myself haven't owned any bikes but have ridden my brother's pulsar 220f and ns200, my friends re hunter and meteor, tvs raider and splendor of course, but the confusion is what type of rider am I is still a question, I liked all bikes I've ridden, but still it's always a question, so it would be better if u guys can give an idea like buy something ride for somedays figure out change the bike😂
2. How to test ride, like what are the things we have to try while test riding the bike! It is simple but it is the key enabler of buying a bike, so what are all the aspects we should look for?
[ Oh yeah forgot to add, these summary ,keep them coming]
Solved!
As others have said in this thread and elsewhere, the banter, really the provocativeness of Shumi combined with the ease of Karthi, is what makes their videos work. Every creator provides knowledge. They provide information with an obnoxious aggressive personality that plays well on TH-cam. You need an aggressor and you need a calming agent. That's why people like me from a distance love watching them.
Hello sir when it will be a safe purchase is it is safe to buy right now because I am investing my whole savings in this bike please reply sir ❤
This podcast is so damn perfect that I am crystal clear that this is the bike I am looking for. I recently rented the Pulsar N160 and rode it for almost 400 kms and loved the torque and its city friendliness so much that I was planning to get the N250. But after seeing this podcast, I think this KTM matches more to what I want. My life would be miserable if I got this as it is way above my budget but I believe it will be worth the misery. Will take a test ride sometime next year.
I remember my first gen Duke 200. In the South Indian summer heat, riding with it in traffic during afternoons, if I was wearing a flip flop to move, I could feel my skin properly cooking. When I sold it, the kid who got it from me came back and told me it was too hot. So I opened up the manual and showed him the 136 degree engine heat mentioned as the operating temperature of the bike. That was funny.
Waiting to see what Husqvarna 250s can do with this chassis and engine. The current Vitpilen is a Gem (Much needed RC250 in disguise IMO) . I am Trying to get the 390's suspension to fit in on the Vitplen TOO XD.
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Svarpilen 250 owner
25,000 km done in 3 years
Brakes upgraded
Lots of weight here and there reduced
Michelin road 5 installed
Vitpilen clipons installed
I too am looking for the new 390’s suspension upgrade.
I also did some digging to get even better stopping performance.
Shall we connect and share notes ?
Jabse Motorinc shuru hua hai thse powerdrift nhi dekha Shumi aur Kartik bhai sab ache se smjha dete hain
take the triumph 400 than a duke 250 its about the same cost and the triumph is just smoother
some people may prefer handling and a modern look than power
Thanks for sharing your perspective!
@@sanjayyethipathi❤
Apples and Oranges, Retro vs Modern, Relaxed Ergonomics vs Sporty.
I can go on and on and on 🤦🏻♂️
@@Shreejansurya98250 is not that sporty.
@13:48 you might wanna recheck the variables. From what Shumi is saying, looks like it should be output vs effort, not the other way.
THANKS GUYS!! IT WAS GREAT!!
(capitalization so that Shumi can read the comment.😜)
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Kartikey summarized the bike pretty well, can't really point anything out. Solid Job!👍9/10
(Even the best of us have room for improvement.)
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And we desperately need a discussion on the Honda situation in the CB 350 First.
Great Work Everyone.👍
Ques.1 What is your take on the 250 ADV? Or the whole ADV lineup from KTM?
Can't help but wonder, that something feels off about those. Comments on that.
Hey! Please do see the MotorInc First on the KTM 390 Adventure (might be Ep 01). We did discuss in detail our worries and the opportunity for the KTM Adventure line in that.
Glad you enjoyed this episode Akaal!
What Shumi said about not going out to buy the first bike and to wait awhile is so spot on. 👍🏼Having owned 10 bikes over the last decade from the Hero Puch to the 1st gen KTM 390, have learnt to wait till companies have a good product before running to the showroom to buy one.
I think you guys should defintely get some time on the cb300r. It is a hoot. It is a very light bike, refined throughout the rev range. Properly quick, darts through traffic. Compact surprise.
The philosophy discussion of motorinc videos are perfect. We feel like we are included into their conversation and the discussion is having in my living room.
Glad to be there with you!
Proud to be a duke 250 gen 3 owner. Thanks Shumi sir to make me even prouder.
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Which colour did u buy
@@muhammadfaheem3746 the orange and blue colour.....with black rims
The value proposition goes to Triumph 400 , but KTM has a different character altogether. Loved the analysis and view points
Thanks VV!
Duke 250 vs Apache 310rtr would be an interesting comparison
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I had gixxer 250 sf as my first bike and I think it provided me everything i needed to grasp the basics of motorcycling well.
Would love to see a detailed comparison between himalayan 450 and adv 390 from you guys 😊
Can do!
@@motorinc But shouldnt we wait for the next gen 390 adv? coz it will be much more like the bigger bros
Thanks @motorinc for this video. Karti's summary gets a 10/10, it was spot on. I think it's the more civilized, gentlemanly one out of the trio till you poke it and when you do so, it will roll up its sleeves and will get to business real quick. I assume the adventure variant is around the corner, which means the present changes would make it an even better option for the price it's asking. Cheers!
A twelve minute review video is getting bore nowadays. But you two guys are delivering a full worth 40 minute video which I can't even skip a bit 😂❤ btw make a video on the Apache RTR 310 please.
Thanks for being with us!
I bought the 250 2 days after they released this video
watching it now just validates my purchase even more
Love every second riding it
Congratulations Omkar!
1:00 everyone in KTM R&D is more or less Racist ~ Shumi
🤣 No that's not what we said
24:00 absolutely agree with shumi and kartik and that is what i was thinking all about ever since i saw 250 and 390. Strongly feel 390’s tank shrouds are unnecessarily elongated the clean compact and sorted design of the 250 is what captivate me. 390’s engine and 250’s body would work right for me.
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Booked a duke250 today, after test riding CB300R, 310R and D250.
Interestingly the showroom guys told me the quick shifter is only for upshifts, was not my top priority anyway.
All are great machines, this one just put a wider smile on me.
Thanks for sharing @yogeeswarpal! Congraulations on the Duke! We wish you a lot of awesome time on it.
The only missing thing is the fuel economy.
Clicked my tongue when Karthikeya interrupted Shumi while he is about to speak on fuel economy.
Else
Everything is up to the benchmark and
I am rally enjoying your longer videos than the shorter one.
Duke 250 or Cb300R ? What's your pick n why ??
Please see the time-stamps. We've discussed it in this video!
Shumi is right. I should've listened and waited for the later batches. I had my engine oil leak out on a 120km ride because the O-ring broke on my Scrambler 400X. Triumph replaced it under warranty, but my bike sat in the shop for a week
Triumph showroom guys be like : Thank you for buying and testing the bike
Ouch. We hope it's sorted now, Soumya?
@@motorinc Yes, thankfully 🙂
Today i have ridden a motorcycle for the first time.. A glamour 125. But i really want to buy a duke 250 as my first learners bike.. Is it a good idea?
if you can afford one and you like to buy
CB300R, Speed 400, Apache RTR 310, Duke 250.
Your choice for city ride;
rate them out of 10.
CB - Not tested
310 - Not Tested
400 - 9/10
250 - 8.5/10
Please test cb300r and review it. Thanks in advance.
@@motorinc grrr seriously, what are you guys waiting for ? 😅 I like sam manekshaw but I waited for your review videos more eagerly than the movie. Many good bike releases in India, such exciting times and you guys are like 'yet to test' 'not tested' . Those 2 are such awesome bikes. C'monn get more excited!! Overwork for few days, can chill later. (I know easy for me to say, but you guys will have your reasons😁)
@@motorinc thank you for your quick response :)
@@motorinc When can we expect RTR 310 Openion Video...?
Hi Shumi. Hope you're well, been loving your new look and this amazing new channel. I'm facing a very odd issue with my 2022 Duke 250 that no matter what SC I'm taking it to, is unable to figure it out. I'm posting this in this comments section here, hoping to hear your expert opinion on my problem. I was staying in Hyderabad at the time of purchase(2022), and the 250 was a beast, both in the city and on the highways on long rides. Last year, I moved to Bengaluru and that was the beginning of my bad experiences on the Duke in terms of ride quality. An insurmountable amount of potholes, speed breakers and bad roads in general exposed the characteristics of this motorcycle that I don't enjoy, at all. The ride is way too bumpy, which I am ready to accept given the not so soft suspension on the Duke, but with every bump something in the bike rattles. I've been to the KTM service countless times with this issue, all them saying its the chain that gets loose and hits the chain guard on every bump, hence the rattling sound. Even with a tight chain, it doesn't go away and neither I nor the service folks have been able to exactly figure it out. Adding to it the low ground clearance, its a headache on Bengaluru roads. Now I'm contemplating my options here. I love the engine on this beast, its so fun to just rip it open on the highway, but practically the ride experience is borderline awful for my preference. Is there any way I can fix it? Is there something that I'm missing? Will changing the tyres or the suspension solve the overall bad ride quality issue here and will it be worth? I'm ready to live with the low ground clearance in that case. Or do I sell it off to someone who'd actually enjoy it and get an ADV?
Just go to our friends at Indimotard near Hoodi Circle and have them take a look first?
41 minutes and I'm just smiling at the way shumi explains the bike. He brings it to life so beautifully without it even being before you. I guess that's what girls feel when they read about fictional male characters.
I haven't even taken a test ride but I've made up my mind to buy it this year. Thanks shumi!
Glad we can help! Do let us know when you pull the trigger Ayaan!
Do i need a 390 or 250 beginer 🔥
Which is best(fun to ride, faster acceleration, better in corners) bike duke 200 or duke 250 for buying plz answer ?
Even rc 200 also includes 😅 or may be fairing bike you would suggest to buy ?
I am also looking for this answer
Hey Shumi!!! Loved the video. 😍 And I'm from Meghalaya and so when you mentioned Meghalaya, i got highly excited. Hope you come back soon and I'm able to meet you in person.
Also I would give Kartikeya a solid 10/10. Imo His summary was on par with yours for the Himalayan 452.
Thank You MotorInc for these videos. You'll make my days better. ❤
Wow! Thanks Sayan! We'll ping if/when we're headed to Meghalaya!
Summary is 10/10 brother.
Keep up the good work.
Also I want to know about the engine refinement and durability
Please rate it out of 10.
I like to have a super refined engine with least sound and vibrations
So can I go for the 2nd or 3rd batch???
Am I seeing official merch on Shumi?
Hey Shumi
What is the difference between SOHC engine and DOHC engine with respect to performance?
No theory please I know it. But don't know how it translates to performance.
It doesn't make a big difference in the context of the 250 Duke. It's always had a reasonable even spread of performance and it still does.
I have the 2024 Duke 390. It does everything, literally everything. If one can manage the extra bucks, get it. Getting it was a great decision.
Wish you awesome rides!
38:47 I rode the CB300R for 15 km in a mixture of conditions and Kartikeya sums it up beautifully. Excellent city bike, doesn’t heat and is smooth but not a highway bike for sure. Feels overpriced and unreliable due to some quality issues that are still going on, unavailibilty of parts etc
Yes the color tft of the duke 390 gen 3 will fit in the duke 250 gen 3 seems lessly...
Karthik Sir's Summary 10/10 Well done. 🙌 🙌
i have literally stopped watching automotive content from other channels. amazing stuff.
Thank you for being with us!
Excellent conversation indeed! This makes the choice pretty easier!
Yes, one thing remained : "mileage". One started to come to that point but the other one intervened. It remained.
Can you please mention it?🤔
Would Duke 250 be a great first bike for someone who's ridden a activa for 7 years and mostly been a manual car driver ( Ertiga) ? Do you think going for a 390 would be better due to the car experience ?
Finally this video is out, have been waiting for this! Amazing impressions as always, I love how your videos aren't generic.
The Summary deserves a 9/10 but the added points by Shumi made it 10. Also I am planning to get the 250 Duke in Jan 2024, but now after listening to you guys I am a bit scared to buy it as of now.
Don’t be scared! Just be patient.
Saving money from now to get the duke 250
All the best @kalpakmukhopadhyay6461
Is it a good time now to purchase the bike now? On your say to go for a second batch or third batch
Now that Vitpilen 250 is also out. We still gotta wait till May or June for second batch? Or even more?
This is the most excited and happy we have seen Shumi Sir. Loved it!!!
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Hey Shumi, excellent video again. Yours are probably the only 40 to 60 mins videos I watch on TH-cam, without getting bored.
Could you give your view on the mechanical noise from the engine? I remember Suzuki made Fiero (not TVS) as the smoothest engine at the time. Never experienced something like it till now, if you know what I mean. Thanks!
Guys, you are both spot on...One suggestion, please include ownership reviews in a sense that you can collect all the problems and niggles these bikes are having and then address them here which can help us as buyers make informed decisions as well as bike manufactures to do their best to finish those niggles ASAP.
Thanks 2x! Appreciate it!
@motorinc I don't know if you guys get this a lot... But please do a long conversation about the Honda CB300R. Its always intrigued me as a product and now that Honda has adjusted its pricing, it appears to be probably the best naked motorcycle for me and probably the best Honda product in India right now. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this machine and I'm sure I'm not alone.
Just took a visit to ktm showroom to check out Duke 250 but left also impressed by the Vitpilen 250. What would be the better bike in terms of comfort and just take anywhere everyday use?
Comfort Duke. Take anywhere, either.
@@motorincthanks for the reply!
Hi i think shumi was about to say about range and efficiency of duke 250 but it was skipped by some topic diversion.. Can you tell me in comments.. I can check it in internet but i believe it would be better if i know from shumi's perspective.. Glad this man opens up a new perspective of this machine.
I saw a video about installing a 390 coloured TFT on 200, the guy mentioned that you have to buy a 390 module and a 390 headlight to make it work. And he estimated the price around 20-25k
Shumi going into talking about honda as brand made me wanna listen to you guys talk about brands of motorcycles at length and their india vs international aspects. would be so intresting
All right! Suggestion noted!
Every bike review I see on your channel, I would like to immediately go and take a test ride! The way you narrate, spot on.
My breaks during the ride is a coffee on the road side shop and rerun of any of your reviews 😅
Awesome! Thanks for letting us know!
Between the updated duke 250,cb300r and rtr310 which one would be a better pick?
Now that I think about it we have had so many new bikes this year! 2023 has been great that way!
Can you do a video for Vitpilen 250??
i have been getting insta adverts for the new duke 250 with the black wheels, then i look up youtube an we already have a whole podcast for the bike from motorinc, i should consider this as a sign👀
Cut to the present and the 250 Duke gets a colour TFT! Someone at Bajaj is watching MotorInc
Karthikeya's summary was just spot on. Cheers mate.❤❤
Seeing the interaction and teasing that goes between these two is always a pleasure.
You can always see Shumi's face light up when talking about his favourites.
Thank you Cadambank!