991.2 Porsche GT3 RS: DSC Controller - Before, Install, and After
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 เม.ย. 2020
- I've had a DSC Controller sitting in the cabinet for a few months. I did a quick drive before installing, did the rather simple install, and offer my initial impressions on a drive afterward.
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I like his videos a lot. I used to think he didn’t drive his cars hard enough. Glad I was wrong. He’s a great example of someone who takes great care of his cars and still drives them hard.
That engine noise, and shifting, is just music!
The snap that the PDK makes when your upshifting while lightly on the gas is so pleasing. Loving these ride along type videos!
Beautiful ride Matt. Thanks for taking us along with you.
I have the DSC v3 on my .1 GTS and totally transformed the suspension. I installed prior to two days at Sebring and you can feel the difference under hard braking where the front and and rear shocks are active in compression and rebound. On track I leave in Sport. If you lower the GT3 you will have hook up to a laptop and zero out the controller.
I love your Porsche videos! So informative and interesting. Any 911 is my dream car, but a naturally aspirated one, oh man....
Keep the videos coming and hope you and your family are doing well. ✌️
Always courtesy rev, great vid matt. need more casual driving ones like this
Car looks a lot smoother from previous videos. The cars sounds so dialed in ! Nice Matt.
Words can’t describe how epic this car is.!!!
Very informative video as always, thanks!
I drove my friends 911 turbo and I was blown away. Truly a work of art and an engineering masterpiece.
Okay- I should have watched the whole video! Nice on the controller!
@Matt Sometimes as you know newer is not always better. Maybe work with Olins to perfect the setup the way you want. ButI hope you get everything dialed -in. You can always go to GT2.
I’ve been debating a DSC controller for my 997.1 X51. It’s looking like this video just cost me $1200. Thanks for the honest review!
Do they make one for a 997. 1?
Man...it's so good.
I recently put eneki TS-10s & Michelin PS4s on my 2015 Si which reduced unsprung weight by I think like 10lbs per wheel (18s to 17s) and I have alot of these characteristics now - dartiness, "bounciness", tramlining. But the tradeoff of actuall grip & turn-in & throttle response was worth it.
Car sounds good as always man.
6:28 we know what that road is used for lol
Thank you for the video on this. I'm look forward to seeing what sort of difference this makes on my .1 Turbo. I'd buy it through OG if I could and honor the source.
I got to track a GT3 and it was life changing. I keep thinking about selling my cars, my dog, my kidney, and maybe some drugs on the weekend to get one.
DSC V3 is transformational on the street... much smoother ride overall. However, on track... it unbelievable! The feel during a lap isn't so noticeable, but I cut almost 2 seconds a lap at VIR, a track I've done a couple thousand laps on. It's a must have upgrade.
Randy C so if it’s smoother on the street and faster on the track, why isn’t it setup from factory like that if it is just software? It doesn’t make sense that Porsche would make it so stiff just to make it feel sporty, like other manufactures do right? Or is it just a confidence thing and the stock setup would be better if driven in a specific way?
@@OKF_Max I think it's both adjustability and being more performance oriented in general. Just like how an aftermarket racing ECU offers much more adjustability than a stock one and allows you to do much more fine tuning. An aftermarket damper controller similarly would allow you to set the dampers to how exactly you want them to behave. Also I think since very few who buy these cars actually drive them on the track, the stock setup is probably more for giving a "sporty" impression by making low speed damping overly stiff.
I'm currently running Cup 2's on my .2RS WP, still get what you're feeling entering a fast curve.
I guess it's how the suspension is set up.
I think what you were explaining was that the .2 feels a bit ahead of you in turn-in where the .1 had a more linear turn-in which felt more controllable. More seat time in that area should re-program your muscle memory.
Awesome review! Thank you 👊🏼👊🏼🤙🏼
Great video as usual!
But can you please add the little plastic cover that covers the door latch on the car side, it's like a 2 dollar part that looks 1,000 times better and clean, I usually install it on my cars and looks really clean!
You might see another incremental improvement going to the Cup 2s as well... I’ve never heard anyone talking up the Dunlop’s over the Cup 2s FWIW.
I know you have stated that you don't like track days, and I understand its not for everyone. But if you got a good track insurance and an instructor for a weekend I think they could shape up your skills really well and they can show you the limits of that car, then you know where they are and can feel more confident being under it, that being said you'll never hit the limits of that car on the street or at least you shouldn't. Still might be a good piece of mind and a good experience.
I've done that about 10 times over the years. It's just not fun for me. After a few years, I just decided to stop caring about what other thought of me owning cars like this and do whatever I want with them. I always thought I was destined to frequent the track and improve my driving skills. It's just not my bag. I live life at an 8/10 adrenaline level, so I've found I don't need any more stimulus.
Man sounds amazing on those downshifts
You have a beautiful house lots of land love it
Porsche performance equal to their win in the Rolex 24 Hours At Daytona! The TPC and DSC teams excel in all aspects of improving the performance of and maintaining your car. I have been a customer for 10 years now, and I give them the highest of recommendations. I can unequivocally say that they have improved my car so that I experience the most when driving my Porsche. They are considered by myself and many in motorsport to be true industry experts and professionals. The DSC controller improves damping and suspension performance through software inputs derived from motorsport data. Miles of smiles!
Well said.
If you lower the ride height, you may need to "zero the ride height" in the DSC controller settings. DSC has instructional video on their site. I'm still tweaking settings on my GT4 after 6 months...nice problem to have.
...on 2nd thought, "Zero'ing the ride height" should be done at install.
Nice engine sound
"As long a grandpa trump here doesn't go too slow" lol gold
Matt...I had those Dunlops on my C63s and struggled with traction. Replaced them with Michelin 4s' and the grip was like night and day. Handled like a different car... You'll definitely feel more confident in corners if you swap out those tires
Schwaben makes a scan tool that can reset service intervals and clear codes/diag
I am more impressed with your driveway !
Always courtesy rev 😍
A suggestion: Get an older (Black) Porsche or something else with horrible swirl marks all over and restore the paint to new. You primarily work on newer cars/paint that isn't damaged very much. The transformations of cars I've seen this done to is amazing. That'll really show your skills.
Why would I want to do that?
I think you’re confused as to why he does this. Matt isn’t selling his detailing service or skills. He’s selling product and showing people how to use it. Also, before and after videos are worthless. You can’t get a good idea of how bad or good paint looks from TH-cam video. If you have the right lighting conditions you can make a crappy car look like a million bucks on TH-cam.
Bingo
That Saturn was probably thinking "When the hell did they start allowing race cars on public streets?!" as you hawked him down and ran through the downshifts...haha. What a killer street car. One of the best. :P
My palms got sweaty into those corners, lol.
Will this controller make as big a change on the 991.1 as it did on the gen 2 car?
You and I have conversed on taking your car to the track. Tracking your car is WAY different than racing your car (I do both). Take your car to the track and get a good instructor. You will delve more deeply in to the things you seek and you will do it safely.
Been there, done that. I don't like it.
Does the .2 have that "bag of marbles" sound from the transmission like the .1?
I couldn't hear anything in the video.
I love your videos I have a question I have a C7 Corvette and I need to remove the driver side seat airbag and I can’t find any information on how to do it can you help me with some information on that. Thanks
Hmm...I'm not sure about that one. I would think just disconnect the battery, remove the seat, then remove the airbag.
If you haven't already, you should zero out the DSC. I have a C7 (pretty sure both cars are the same procedure, but ck w/DSC). Level the car, do the Zero travel adj for the DSC, have 1/2 to full fuel and you sitting in the car. This adj will tell the DSC where zero is in the damper travel while sitting still. It will make a difference. Right now you don't know where the DSC thinks zero damper travel is, because you haven't told it where it is.
What radar detector do you use? Have you had any issues with yours?
Very interesting comparison. Is this module delivered specific for the GT3 RS 991.2 ?
Each controller they make is specific to the model car.
'Courtesy' revs are a bad idea, Matt. The fresh influx of fuel into the combustion chambers washes the effective film of oil from the cylinder walls. Your next start is a 'dry' one thus increasing ring and/or cylinder wear.
Meh...it will be just fine.
Matt, I will be taking delivery of a 991.2 GT3 RS with 1800 miles after virus restrictions lifted. For a guy my age ( 66) the dsc controller sounds like a must for every day driving. The car has no roll bar. Can I install the controller myself without removing the seat?
If you take the seat out like I did, I think you could easily do it. The seat only weighs about 30 pounds, so it's pretty easy to get out.
Man this sounds great
not sure where you from, but the roads looks just same as ohio
FL
@obsessedgarage what cell phone mount did you get? There are way too many options out there some cover vents. Which one do you recommend?
Rennline
That pdk omg
Great video. Did you end up installing the controller on your GT4? I just ordered one for my GT4 and was wondering how you felt about it on your GT4 if you installed it. Thx so much.
I never got one for the GT4, but I'm guessing it's pretty good.
@@ObsessedGarage Thx so much. I’ll give it a try. I appreciate the response and your channel. Enjoy your day.
Matt are you going to add Dundon for power with headers and intake?
That's the plan.
What you call "Bad" roads, are considered pretty good for the UK haha.
Durametric it's a very good tool
I think you would benefit greatly from a track day or two...I sure did. Find the limits of the car with an instructor and become a better driver overall.
I've been many times. I just don't like it.
Did you do a video of an install on the radar detector?
Yep, it will be up tomorrow.
On the fence about buying one for my .1 gt3. I actually like the bumpy ness and harshness of the ride. Reminds me that I’m in a race car. Will the dsc controller lessen the stiffness of the dampers over stock?
It doesn't. It just makes the car more compliant.
@@ObsessedGarage thanks. Just bought one. Can’t wait to try it
Granted, I don't have a recent model Porsche, (I'm rolling in a 997.2) much less a GT RS, so my opinion is not the one that counts, but I've found that taking my car to the track is the best way to experience it. Roads are messy and other drivers become dangerous obstacles. Tracks are generally the best tarmac available, and you're surrounded by other people that respect the cars. I guess I've been watching too many Nurburgring videos, but seems like an RS should be at a track as often as wallets allow.
Not my thing man
Have you seen the yellow GT3 RS detailed by Topaz, what do you think of the carbon upgrade to the plastics?
I saw the video, but I haven't watched it. Carbon fiber swap is a huge undertaking and cost on the GT3.
Obsessed Garage sorry should have said, they wrapped the existing plastic in carbon fibre weave. Thought it looked pretty decent maybe even legit😂👍🏻
Ah...no, I'm not an advocate of wrapping anything.
Always courtesy rev...always.
Did the install on my 18 GT3 and really did not feel any difference. Maybe at the track
thank you ; )
Im a UPS driver, i say the same thing every day. Go home ppl!! Lol
What phone mount have you opted for?
Looks like the Rennline
Yep, Rennline.
New wheels = new tires. Perfect.
It’s the tires as well. Please put the cup2s back on
Stef back? It comes with Dunlops. They are factory fit.
@@joetacchino4470 i think he means back on since he had cup 2s on the .1
It’s the tires. Take it to the track.
Biggest criticism of PASM is on the track
Bro why did that dude infront of you straight stomp the gas and not let off lol
Feel bad for the people that live on that road? They're probably thanking you for that amazing noise...
I don't quite get how you made the mental jump from adjustable suspension to Porsche purists. No one serious about that car would argue over the stock suspension set-up being the only 'true' one since the whole premise of the car is to be adjustable for track use. And if they do show them the manual.
And here I thought I was the only one that did a courtesy rev...
are you putting an exhaust on the car?
Already did it two months ago
@@thisisdudewhoru oh which one did he put on?
He went AWE again on this one.
Some of the *jumpiness* means that you aren't going fast enough;) #downforce
Ha, ha... Seriously though, you are exactly correct.
Did you ever customize the controller? Sry, haven't watched the whole video yet.
No...I never did. I used the default DSC settings for the 991.2.
The car kind of bucks and is almost too light in turn where you dont feel that mechanical grip. Tinker with the compression rates if possible.
Ditch the Dunflops.
Video evidence of breaking the law ✅ 🤣🤣
Dude it was in Mexico didnt he mention that
Dont blame you i couldnt take a car that awesome to the track either id be too worried id damage it
why is it in Florida it looks like u just drive around in big circles lol
Hmmm moww hmmm yezz . Sorry had to
Matt is going to sell this and get GT3 RS 991.3 with Yellow accents and setup the way he wants. I can tell he might not like the green accents.
If it doesn't run soft like a Cadillac, I am not buying.
Did you look in your mirror when you overtook that black car? 🤦🏼♂️🤣🤣
Dommage comprends pas l’anglais😞🙏🙏🙏🙏💪💪🇺🇸🇵🇹
I never do 'courtesy revs'. IMO you leave lots of fuel inside the combustion chamber. Then the un-burned fuel runs down through the piston rings, into the oil reservoir. Once there, the fuel dissolves and contaminates oil [specially E85], reducing its intrinsic benefits. So when you turn on your engine again, the oil heat will burn the fuel into ashes. That's why the once translucent oil becomes dark - burned fuel that passes through the piston rings. Then you have to change oil sooner and have more mechanical wear in engine moving parts and walls.
'Courtesy Revs' burns 🤑
Get out of here. Weak sauce.
You cannot out engineer the Porsche engineers you bought a track car for the street and complain about its street behavior
Richard Messer This take is so bad.
First, it is not a track car. This is a car built specifically for the street. It has a back up camera, axle lift, mirrors, etc. Second, I never once complained about anything in this video.
Richard Messer My friend...customizing a car to your liking is not an attempt to out engineer anyone
Change the tires , big difference Michelin‘s way better off tires
Cup 2s are the only good tires out of their lineup.
Toyo Proxes or Potenza RE070R R2 are the way to go.
35mph on a road like that?? Who sets your speed limits?? How are you supposed to have any fun, ridiculous. That should be a 60 mph minimum
This is in a residential area.
DSC controller but you dont track your car. Gotta fine tune that suspensions so you can pull into the parking lot at cars and coffee faster lol
Get him, Matt! 😂
I don't go to cars and coffee. I'd be faster than you at any track, so I don't want take that from you.
@@ObsessedGarage lol I go to sebring and daytona often. I would destroy you, especially since you dont track. Go back to your sorrows despite trying to sell $300 bucket packages in the middle of a pandemic......
@@johnadams2933 jealous much?
@@MrCyp200la I have a gt3rs so jealousy would be a lateral move.
Corvette anyday over that shit box. Good luck mate 🤣
What? I'm a die hard corvette guy but to think that a 991.2 is shit... you are stupid.
Dude .... there is 35 mph speed limit in this residential neighborhood .... go practice with your toys elsewhere
Dude he never went over 35, it just sounds fast and it's a rural area.
Yeah, it was more like 27mph. I like to give it a little room to be sure I'm not exceeding it.
Grandpa trump. 😂 as long as it isn’t sleepy creepy joe!