I can't thank you enough man, im not the most experienced person in these kinds of stuff and so im always a little bit insecure about messing up all these voltage shit and potentially breaking my pc. I wen't from hitting about 81/82Cº in cinebench with a H150i cappelix at probs 70%-80% fan speed to a mere 67-69Cº with 35-40% fan speed just by following what you did. Not a single reviewer has given an easy to follow solution for the unexperienced for this problem like you have, again, thank you!
I just stumbled on your video a few months after I have bought my CPU and the temps were the only issue for me, reaching 80C easily and maxing 90 on a 360mm AIO and I tried using clocktuner for Ryzen and it did help a little bit but temps still got very high, then after watching your video and using your settings gets me to 78 max with a performance increase (14700 previously, 14900 currently) so I thank you very much for your video.
also have the 5800X now running at 90° in CB with an 360mm AIO had the 2700X before never going above 75° at 4,3Ghz All Core i was shocked about the temperatures but i will definetly try the solution from the video later! :)
@@XDaWsOnX2 Yes. Agreed.. I just got my 5800X up and running with a MASSIVE 360mm AIO... At STOCK settings, it's currently hitting nearly 70c installing a few Steam games!
@@bliglum so the 5800x is getting warm even with 360 aio cooler? Coz im planning to buy it with the 360 cooler .. im gonna use it for gaming browsing studying and a little bit work is the temp still be high ?
@@hasoonysoony3383 It was, but I found the solution. You just gotta undervolt it a bit. I'm now undervolted, overclocked, and no longer thermal throttling.
Your a life saver man! All I found before were videos about it running hot but no solutions. I noticed right away on my new build going from my 2700x to the 5800x. I was running 88-90c under load with an MSI Mag 240mm AIO in a push/pull setup. After using Ryzen master to tweak the settings. I instantly saw a huge drop. Running 72-74c in cinebench tests and only lost 0.2 ghz across all cores. Boost all cores to 4.4ghz. I am running an x470 MB, eventually I will get an x570 board and spend more time really tweaking it. You have gave me peace of mind and a great starting point. I was about to return it and start saving for a 5900x. Saved me that headache and prob $180.
Thank you very much for this video and your instructions. Though I am an IT guy, BIOSes can be difficult to navigate due to terminology differences between manufacturers, CPU generations, etc. Your comments were insightful (and amusing, too), and your explanation of this heating issue is the best I have found thus far. After taking the few seconds to make the BIOS changes, my system is now running MUCH cooler with lower fan speeds, and I do not see any performance degradation whatsoever. Again, many thanks! :)
PPT 120, TDC 100, EDC 80, idle at 30 degrees, max temp is 48 degrees with an Arctic Liquid Cooler II 360. CPU Voltage is set to a negative -0.15 offset and core optimization is set to negative 10 on the 2 favorite cores and 15 on all the others. No issues, I reach 4.8 boost almost constantly (lowest is 4.786). I bought the 5800X because I saw your vid :)
Bro you saved me big time! Got a 5800X 3 days ago that was driving me insane! Continuous slow creep to 90c in about 5 minutes while gaming, thermal throttling, games stuttering, cpu temp warning alert, the works. Using a Cooler Master MasterAir MA410M and 6 case fans. Was about to sell this thing cuz I tried so much stuff. Used your exact settings and temps down by about 15 to 20c depending on the game, idling at 45c, no more stuttering in games even when it hits the max 85c limit, and for the first time my chip broke clean through the 5Ghz barrier. I went from hating to loving this cpu lmao. You're the man!!
I have been trying for a week to figure this bad boy out. Tried a ton of curve options. Temp throttle and a ton of ppt tdc edc changes. All had small impact and always hot. TH-cam recommended this video today. I tried your settings and BAM. We are in business. Single core runs 60 in r23 at 4.8 and multi core is 4.4. Good enough for me
Amazing, informative video. Your settings took 15c degrees off of my 5800x during cinebench stress test. I set Boost Override CPU to 200 as it did not let me set the value to 199 as shown in the video, worked just fine. Pushed my max clock speed to 5.05 GHz! THANK YOU (:
i just bought a pre-built with a 5800x and was really confident in the purchase. then i came to youtube, and watched some videos, i was slightly concerned but thought they were probably being dramatic. thanks for this video, it gave me peace of mind.
Same man. I was building my pc and I just picked this cpu for how good people talk about it and how It runs stuff I'm looking for smoothly. Then after I buy it and it's coming on the way I see these mfs talkin bout how it gets hot. Now I'm really happy I even got the cpu I want
Dude. Simply brilliant. I literally was just about exchange this CPU. Now I’m going to implement this advice and see what happens. I knew there was something funky when OC at maximum got exactly the same 90-degree FurMark benchmark. I was scratching my head and now I know why! Update: I started with the recommended settings and did some things slightly different to accommodate my exact situation. Default settings for PPT,TDP, EDC are 142, 95, 140 respectively. I set mine to 109, 95, 130 which yielded a Cinebench score of 15092 @76C. I kept the other stuff auto. I may also reset my Dark Rock Pro cooler with a different thermal paste, but we'll see.
Thank you, brother. Indirectly, you saved my PC from very high temps. This is applicable even on my 3800X. 3800X has the same PPT, TDC and EDC values by default like a 5800X. And now everything works like a charm. Temps are amazing. Cheers!
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I gotta thank you a lot for that vídeo. Very helpful, now I feel comfortable again with my temps. I just couldn't see any difference in performance in my day to day use after changing the settings. Thumbs up!
My Noctua NH-D15 inside of Fractal design torrent nano case managed to cool my 5800X with the default settings which is 140 W 95 A 142 PBO -15 All cores been rendering gaming streaming no issues in cinebench full load I set around 78C ~ 82C at 4.6Ghz on all cores and while gaming it's just a joke 45C ~ 58C, Very happy with it it's a beast of a CPU.
Those PPT/TDC/EDC settings are right on the money, Ive tried changing values but even with my fancy cooler nothing gets me better clocks/temps than that.
I didn't research cpu too much but I'm loving it, more so shocked to see all these temp issues and just assuming I'm lucky I have no temp issues at all haha
The info in this video is quite amazing. First, I have great cpu cooling with a noctua nh-d15s with two fans and great case air flow. With pbo on and ppt, tdc edc set to auto, my 5800x runs about 82c after a 5 minute run of cinebench r20, and 70-75c while playing games which is well within specs and is okay, but then... Using the info here I set PPT to 115, TDC to 100, and EDC to 80, and now it runs at 70c which is 15 degrees cooler and only loses a few hundred points from the cinebench score. I lost about 3 fps in games. 15 degrees cooler and 3 fps loss in gaming which is not enough of a performance loss to notice. Thanks.
In September this video still holds true. Very concise and convinced me to buy one, used the ppt as shown in video, rocking a noctua nah-d15s(single fan), 5800x now is chef kisses 4.8ghz running with temps around 55-65 most games Edit: Cyberpunk is a piece of shit that runs at 65-70, don’t know what’s up with the code in that game One more edit for all those wondering: PBO2 is set to 25 offset all cores and I changed ppt in bios not ryzen master
There is NO way you are running that cool with an air cooler i cant even get below 80c on a 240mm aio..... this cpu is dogshit and runs way too hot period.
You're a pure genius. Went from cinebench temps of 85 during 5 min test (cinebench23) to max temp of 69 with it pretty much staying at 68. Yeah the overall score took a slight hit, but well worth it to preserve my chip. Hats off to you my friend. {cooler -- coolmaster MA612 stealth}
@THEnelsonbruhs You will take a hit on the cinebench score, but check your clock speeds. Mine boost to 4.85 on all cores regularly. Actually hit 5ghz, but that isn't the norm and wasn't on all cores.
@THEnelsonbruhs Cinebench score is slightly lowered, but the performance is still incredible, don't worry too much about score (unless it drops severely, like under 12k). The temp control is the important thing. At the out of the box temps the chip is sure to fail prematurely and/or your system will be forced to experience constant shutdowns (if gaming and such).
You get less memory latency hit since it’s just one ccd chiplet for 5800X. It does run a little hotter, but curve optimizer and a slightly more aggressive fan curve for gaming is easily doable. I do this with a nhd15s cooler with stock pbo2 manual 142w ppt / 95A / 140A.
I first tried Ryzen Master but I couldn't figure out how to change the settings in there, went into the BIOS and after a bit of googling managed to find the right settings/menu to enter the PPT/TDC/EDC settings, booted back up and I'm instantly down from 70*C to 45*C with a Corsair Elite Capellix 360 Thanks so much!
I observed the same. My 5900x runs cooler at stock settings. But after I've played around with my 5800x a bit I now get 6150 points in r20 and barely hit 72c. My 5800x does negative 30 for the curve optimizer and the lower power target all day long. So I think I got a good unit.
I know the impact on performance in BENCHMARKS REALLY There!! But to see it compensate you loose some you win some, I take that! Really appreciate the tweak share on video.. Change PPT to 115W really make different in temp in Ryzen 7 5800x!
Most motherboards have an ECO setting, and PBO presets for lower wattages, and many even have a setting to limit the temperature. If the 90°C temperature limit concerns you, try those settings - no need to get fancy or complicated. Using a Curve Optimizer negative offset lowers the core voltage, but the processor compensates by upping the clocks, so you get higher clock speeds at the same temperatures. That is how all the 5000 CPUs are all designed to work. They run the clock speeds up until the CPU hits 90°C. You can easily drop the temperature by 10°C by simply using one of the aforementioned presets, and you'll only see a 2% to 3% performance reduction in all-core loads.
@Danishblunt - thanks for the video! I recently got a 5800X and built it last night. I have a h115i AIO in a Corsair 5000D Airflow case. I'm going to check my voltage later tonight.
I hate reviewers too brother, I bought the 5800x and Love this CPU, I am a small techtuber but with the all the miss information out there whenever I mention this people say I'm wrong because some big youtuber said so, ppl need to inform themselves. I was so happy to buy this beast CPU that over clocks exceptionally! You gained a SUB like and comment lol I have mine on water a custom loop, and I saw it at stock go to 1.4 v 4.6 Ghz and 81c after 45 minutes in cinebench r23, that was so bad. I have since then go to 4.75 1.25 v at 77c and I'm still messing around with it cause I know I can get more out of it. Plus I'm not the best over clocker lol I wanted to do a similiar video like yours for my subs, if you have any info for me or want to add to this please message me so we can maybe collab or whatever lol Great video mucho respect brother
Okay tried it with some modifications of my own. My 5800X seems to be getting nerfed by ASUS BIOS updates. 6.1k to 5.9k CB20. No idea why this is the case. I was worried about the thermal performance at first because it's dismal considering that I'm running the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420mm. I've tried offset mounts and different thermal pastes to no avail. Thermal paste spread was fairly consistent too. For my old settings that got me the 5.9k score, it was running at -25 on all cores (Curve Optimiser) and peaked at 84 degrees. I tried these settings PPT: 125 TDC: 100 EDC: 80 Curve Optimiser: -25 all core All core boost reads between 4.6-4.65Ghz and the temps max out at 79 degrees. All core score is still 5.9k ish. I experienced a drop to 5.65k for 115W so 125W worked better for my specific CPU. Overall, I'd say that the guide worked great as a starting point. Thanks for sharing!
Anyway an update! I found out that the drop on score was caused by AURA Sync. Turning it off before i started the test got the score back up to normal. Current settings are still PPT: 125 TDC: 100 EDC: 80 Curve Optimiser: C0: -20 C1: -25 C2: -20 C3: -20 C4: -20 C5: -15 C6: -20 C7: -25 Better stability for me, as i realized that C5 is an exceptionally weak core on my CPU. CB20 scores (updated) Multicore: 6087 Singlecore: 631
Thanks for this video and the accompanying bios guide. I was able to go from 90ºC to a much more manageable 83ºC. My multi core score in Cinebench R23 was about 3.5% lower. Might mess around and see if I can improve performance/decrease temps even more.
Do you live in a cold or hot country? Because I'm considering getting this CPU but I live in a really hot region in Brazil and I don't have air conditioner.
I’m using a Corsair H55 water cooler, so here’s how I managed to get stable temperatures in full load (80~82 Celsius average) without throttling. Playing games (65~74 Celsius average). Some games in 1080p (Valorant) and others in 2K (Sekiro) or 4K (Horizon New Dawn, Ori). In idle 33 Celsius. First, check in Ryzen Master which are the fastest cores, then in BIOS: PPT: 105W TDC: 80 A EDC: 90 A Optimization curve: Core 1: 22 Negative Core 2: 22 Negative Core 3: 22 Negative Core 4: 22 Negative Core 5: 17 Negative (Fastest core) Core 6: 22 Negative Core 7: 22 Negative Core 8: 20 Negative (Second fastest core).
OMG I AM SO HAPPY THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU OUT THERE! I watched that idiot's video who you mentioned is spreading misinformation and almost didn't buy a 5800X. Thank you so much.
Just fix the max voltage to 1.2V in the bios settings, before the CPU used to reach 90°C in AIDA64 Extreme CPU+FPU+cache test in around 30 seconds with the voltage getting as high as 1.475V and 4,4-4,5GHz , now with lowered voltage reaches almost 4,9GHz and runs at 71°C in the same test ... Also you consume less energy with wattage going from high 120W figures to around 100W .
It's not a good idea because AMD chips are more susceptible to high current damage than high voltage. If you force low voltage on an AMD chip you force high current which will degrade your chip quicker, this misconception about keeping voltage low is due to intel chips working in reverse where voltage is the main degradation point when having mediocre current.
@@jamarcus_OG the current will rise the higher the temps are going to get as well. Manual mode also has no protection against to much current either as you can see if you open ryzen master when you check your limits. While manual does lower powerdraw it does raise current and removes limits completely leaving your cpu to get quite current hungry. Its not going to instantly kill your cpu or anything but your cpu will get more unstable over the next few weeks and youll have to steadily up the voltage since the chip degrades.
@@danishblunt9698 So your suggestion are .. ? If I'm not wrong, a simple rule (not exact by any means) states that W=V•A , so to draw 104W=1,2V • 87,5A (theoretical) . With default (or Auto) mobo bios settings 143W=1,413V • 101A (theoretical) with the default settings. HW info, during an AIDA64 Extreme stress test on CPU-FPU-Cahce , with downvoltage to 1,2V , detected TDC 67Amp peak / EDC 140Amp peak , while with default auto settings TDC up to 89Amp with the same 140Amp EDC which is Mobo limited. So no my friend, downvoltage isn't hurting anything, maybe the opposite. I got 300MHz plus of boost on all cores with downvoltage, 20°C less peak temperature, 23A less peak TDC , 40W less peak consumption. Don't spread misinformation please. If you want proof , I still have screenshots of the tests and values detected...
When i first booted my pc with this cpu, a simple task as opening facebook on chrome had my cpu temp rising above 70C and still climbing. Im running it in a node 202 which cant hold a big cooler (yes i know it isn't smart). i overclocked it to 4.2ghz and undervolted to 1.35v and now it maxes out in the 60's. Its really impressive how much of a difference doing an under volt can make while keeping performance
For my 5800x, I used AMD rizen master set it in Laptop mode! Cooler used is a Be Quiet rock 4, in an old CoolerMaster Scout 2 case.Was 125watts now 98!
I have a 5800x and changed my settings to 123 PPT = 80 TDC = 90 EDC. And -30 curve offset with 100 speed boost. Temps are at 71 degrees 4.950 ghz and a 637 cinebench r23 single core
@@DIRTYPENIS Hi. I have the the Asus turf wireless motherboard. The cooler that I have is the Arctic cooler 420. I got that one when I herd that these cpus run hot. Before changing the settings I would still see it hit 84 degrees. With new settings I hit 71 with biggger results all around
@@jerryjr1701 I too bought the Artic Cooler 420mm and am almost constantly edging too close to 90c, gonna try these settings. Hopefully, I'll have some luck.
Thanks for your explanation. I found your video at 5AM (GMT+8) 🤣 I try doing every video regarding undervolt for lower temp on this 5800X. 😂 Most of them, CB R23 stop working. Some of them only 1 rending left, it stop. I apply your settings on BIOS, and test CO -5 all core CB work fine. But temp reduce little bit. My pc case is CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW with 4x Cooler Master MasterFan MF120 Halo + Cooler Master MasterFan MF140R ARGB + Cooler Master MasterFan MF140R Halo ARGB. For CPU Cooler, I'm using Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition + Cooler Master MasterFan SF120R ARGB. Fan setup is 3x front intake, 2x top and 1x back is exhaust. Oh ya, I'm using MB ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING. My previous processor is R5 3500X. 😆 Now i try -10 and left it to take a nap. Later i wake up, i check it. 😴
Thank you I'm upgrading from Ryzen 2600 ( OC 40.5 Ghz ) and wanted to go to the 5800X ( $439 Can. on sale ) . But I saw everyone saying not to by runs way to hot. Thanks now I'm upgrading to a 5800X need it for my GPU the 2600 is my bottle neck for sure.
Thank you for this info-- i am right now, assembling a 5800x box (cant get 5900x) for Chia plotting. It will run 24/7 at approx 75% load, Undervolting will most likely help a lot.
first of all i do agree with this guy and yes i left a big comment on that dude saying don't buy this and that, which is total BS and as someone who dealt with at least 15 Ryzen 2 and Ryzen 3 CPUs i can say that the motherboards are super generous with the voltage which makes the CPU go nuts and exceed what so many people consider "safe temps" but you take just one minute and actually check the bios or maybe update it to support PBO 2.0 you will see that the temps will go down and the performance will remain the same, it's really simple you just need to have an idea on how the voltage is over supplied to the CPU also we didn't have this issue with the Zen+ CPUs they ran cool and didn't have any temp spikes even if they used a IO die + a CCD on one side of the IHS. my X570 was literally chocking my CPU with a lot of voltage on auto settings making it idle at 55c ffs 55c on idle that's not great but after some tinkering i got it down to 40c on idle and 73c under load while gaming it's always around the high 50s low 60s depending on how CPU demanding the title is so no go out and get any Zen 3 CPU that you can get your hands on, they are literally the best out there.
LOL! I wonder why the fk you used Paint instead of just Txt document, when its just numbers and letters. Great video and i appreciate the infos. Thank you.
You're so funny man "these fucking morons" - made my day. :D I'm running 5800x ofc, just use undervolting to gain more performance running leess temperatures. But that is of course a more advanced way.
Have a 5800X. Don't have all the crazy hot temps suggested by the bandwagon YT influencer's. In fact it runs smoother than my previous 3800X which ran hotter in benchmarks . One thing i did find when upgrading this new CPU on a X570 board with all the recent BIOS updates make a clean install of windows after. I'm honestly sure this is often overlooked by many. You can not drop another processor on to the same board to gain best results.
Also I was searching and found a reddit post where they only used the basic window of ryzen master, they set their max clock to 4600 and voltage to 1.25, I did the same thing and got amazing results
I snapped up my 5800x from OCUK when they briefly went on sale for £380. Running it with just XMP and PBO enabled had me pushing past 85c playing Cyberpunk under a 360 AIO. After I confirmed it wasn't a bad mount I was getting close to RMAing it. A run with Ryzentuner gained nothing of note but surprisingly it rated my chip as a golden sample. The PBO Voltage offset feature getting added confirmed why. -30 is stable in use but will see the occasional crash if left idle for several hours. -28 is bomb proof for me. ~6200 Cinebench scores without a clean windows install and 4.750 ghz all core boost all day long. The one let down is that I seem to hit a wall at 4.850ghz single core and I'm yet to find a way to get past that. 623 Cinebench single core is passable at least. I'm damn glad I didn't return this thing though. I'm genuinely curious if it's sustained 4750mhz all core boost has it pipping the 5900x in newer more multi threaded games.
Tech notices video made my ducking blood boil. Good work man it’s such a simple fix and a fantastic processor. Even next to my 5900x the cpu is great. These people should be more concerned with specific ram to use, motherboards, nvme drives, motherboard chipsets and how/why the pcie lanes are connected for optimal video editing. I just see a kid grabbing random *new components with little to no explanation of why. Dude Guaranteed has no actual idea how a pc works in unison and how to properly set it up. He actually said “it’s not worth having to SET UP your computer.” I mean WHAT!?!?! Conclusion- don’t listen to people who only buy the most expensive and newest parts and give you tutorials on how to build a pc are not competent. That don’t understand basic principles of how important things like cast latency, chipsets, memory controllers, how to configure your Fucking bios….. ok I’m done. Thanks man I’m glad you made this video.
legit guide...Changed my stock settings to 120,100,80 and ran CB23, got a 15280 score on a corsair H150i. Stock idle was around 44 degrees, now idles at 39 degrees. stocks settings on CB23 used to hit 80 degrees, now caps at 71 degrees.
Thank you for this video bro! I have almost canceled my 5800x because of many reddit, youtube, forum topics about "too hot 5800x". I'm waiting for 5800x, Gigabyte X570 Gaming X, 32GB HyperX 3000Mhz CL15 to upgrade PC. (already have 1080Ti) The motherboard was the only option in my country for AM4 (ATX). Hope this combo will be top performer for everything Gaming, Rendering, Video Edit. EDIT: Arctic Liquid Freezer II (240MM) for CPU.
While i personally do perfer aircooling over watercooling on the CPU due to the nature of CPU having more of burst loads I think given the right settings you should be absolutely fine. I have a gigabyte board as well.
@@danishblunt9698 in my country I could get for 80-90 eur Cooler Master Air Cooling (2x120mm) or this Arctic Liquid 240mm for 95eur. Arctic seems better choice to me since I can't get the most quality Air Coolers here.
@@filipradulovic2673 That's absolutely fine. As i said, aircooler is preferable but not a must. Many people have cases where a beefy aircooler is not an option. While it's prefered to have an aircooler on the CPU, watercooling will also do the job. Just saying :) As mentioned before, i strongly suggest getting a good paste and then try again, also make sure the cooler sits somewhat tight so it makes proper contact with the CPU. Also what pumpspeed are you running at?
@@danishblunt9698 I just got everything an hour ago. Tomorrow I will build the system. I have two thermal pastes - first stock from Arctic from the box and other is Cooler Master "High Performance" paste. Maybe first to try with stock paste and if that paste doesn't bring a good temps, to try with other.
@@filipradulovic2673 I hope its not this paste: www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/thermal-grease/high-performance-thermal-paste/ Because that paste is extremely bad. Coolermasters good paste is named "MasterGel"
@@DeepteshLovesTECH Do you have a iq of 62 or below. He said “A CPU at this price should work without doing anything in the BIOS”, did you see or read that he stated 5800x?
It works perfectly fine out of the box. The steps illustrated in this video are not compulsory. This person wanted PBO to be less aggressive with voltage and power for less heat output -- fine. But stock, these chips are designed to be safe and functional. And Ryzen CPUs have higher heat tolerances than Intel: www.pcgamer.com/amd-views-ryzen-5000-cpu-temperatures-up-to-95c-as-typical-and-by-design/
I used Ryzen Master to determine my Curve Optimizer settings, it'll auto figure it out. Also, when using your recommended settings, my temps definitely went down but my Cinebench R23 score dropped a bunch. From 14400 down to 11900
Great video buddy , keep up. I got 5800x recently too and managed to lower temps drastically by doing this in bios : PBO on, i set limits (for W/A/A) to disabled (keeps them in CPU stock values), Auto OC of +200mhz, and i used curve optimizer with negative 20 for all cores. my cpu runs at 64 degrees in games and around 86 degrees in cinebench with Dark rock pro 4 cooler. (before it was 76c in games and 90c in cinebench). Also i think it is an amd thing, when i managed to lower the temps, my cpu gets to higher clocks, up to 4.65ghz all core in cinebench, and around 5ghz on single core apps
@@Atikrahmanshuvo i suggest you check TheGrayingTech 5 parts series on how to use Rayzen master to get the best settings for your chip, then put them in bios once you like the result
Thank You So Much.. Brother For the Covid i'm not get my choiced coller nzxt x63... I'm now useing my old nzxt m22... But i'm now useing this for only light work..
@@Atikrahmanshuvo i don't know much about that cooler, but you might wanna try to disable power limits and use curve optimizer if your bios is up to date. The cpu goes over limit in stock setting. If you got an email i can send you all my settings so you can start from there and tweak them to fit your chip. Silicone lottery is a thing with these CPUs
I entirely agree there is too few actually good reviews these days. The really good reviews I watch are from HU and GN. All of the others have things that I don't like in them...
John Jenkins the ram config video from GN was half baked. 4x8 is generally equal or slightly better than 2x16 depending on mobo topology. From just reading lots of compiled stats, dual rank is generally 133-200mhz better than single rank dual channel. So 3600cl16 dual rank is about 3600cl14 or 3800cl18 single rank. Also, dual rank will mainly benefit from more cpu bound games. So, games that are more gpu bound maybe naturally or due to running at a higher resolution like 2560x1440, generally not going to see much difference between similar memory timings and speeds.
what's the value PBO have you set? PPT , TDC, EDC = ? have you tried cinebench R20 last for 20' continuosly ? Does it stable? I have the same negative, not passing 83 C, but the PC Crash down and reset at the 3rd round R20. ( maybe because temperatures continue raising up too high after each round )
Last night I did my first ever Cinebench R23 run on my 5800X cpu that I bought on release and never thought to undervolt until now. Here are my STOCK results all core - (MAx values) 88.4c / 4.81GHz / 150.4w / 1.419V with a Phanteks Glacier One 280mm AIO. Im keen to tr this "Fix" to a problem that isnt too much of an issue but if I can get lower temps, I all for it because that cpu paired with the XFX 6900XT, my case gets toasty.
I bought parts from 3 separate vendors. 5800X, Asus B550-F Gaming and a Cooler Master 240mm AIO. Temps were insanely high in an open box setup. Felt fucked. I didn't know where the problem was. Ordered another cooler (Hyper 212 EVO v2) just to do some troubleshooting (the noise coming from the AIO was unbearable) and avoid dealing with 3 separate vendors. Same thing. Then I cracked open CPU-Z and noticed it was pumping a constant 1.45v to vCore. WTF?! Went into BIOS, tweaked the settings. It's now an all-core 1.25v 4.7GHz with idle temps of 40C and stress tested to 76C. On air. In a closed mini tower case. THEN I found your video. I blame it on the mobo makers, tbh. They don't seem to have proper BIOSes for this piece of kit.
Well not quite. I would strongly suggest you do not put manual voltage. AMD CPU's have no problem handling high voltage, however they are very susceptible to degradation caused by high current draw and temperature. Manual voltage usually forces the CPU to get out of spec with the amp draw to compensate for the low voltage. When you look for degrading Ryzen CPU you will notice that all are "manual" users. That being said, 1.45vcore under load is way higher than it should normally be, under load (like cinebench) a 5800x should typically be around 1.2 - 1.3v. Maybe check for beta BIOSes for your motherboard.
Great video about time for someone to have a rant about the reviewers not knowing what they are talking about. I have the AMD 5800x they are a great CPU, keep the video coming dude, you have a sub from me.
Awesome video,I did 90+hours of straight research getting bak into the pc game on my new dreamachine, so i couldnt agree more do your own research use multiple sources. I was able to school the tech guys that told me that my 5800x i just hot.. well yea stock.. Also how to you write 7's if thats how 1's looks XD. Thanks again.
holy sh*t, went from 90 to 60 degrees. somehow ryzen master was overriding bios settings for me, and PPT was 1000w 😂 edit: it was a buggy bios that was the cause for the settings to not save, a newer version did fix this.
I have a 3700x. I don’t overclock and don’t really care too. At stock hz the stock volts was 1.45 which is unnecessarily high especially for stock hz. I dropped it down to 1.3 and my temps went from 39C to 28C at idle. Need good airflow and be aware of what you need to change in the bios.
My bottleneck isn't the heat concentration on the die, but my cooling limitation due to a sff cooler. Curve optimizer undervolting will do the trick for me
IMPORTANT: The TDC and EDC were in reverse in my video, idk why I had a brainfart there, its TDC 80 and EDC 90, which most of your probably have already figured out, for those who have done it in reverse, also no problem as TDC cannot exceed EDC anyways, however that value would be quite low. I would recommend going for TDC 80 and EDC 90 for best performance :) 0:00 - 3:01 rant 3:01 - 5:56 Hardware problem 5:57 - 7:06 Software problem 7:07 - 12:00 what to expect after fix 12:01 - 14:02 Cooling efficiency explained 14:03 - 17:47 my settings 17:48 running test and end If you have any questions regarding settings and such, feel free to ask I'll try to answer, otherwise join my discord for support in case you have some issue with your build or performance.
THANK GOD someone who actually is out here on YT to help others with the 5800x and not making it sound like it was a colossal screw up to get the CPU. Thank you so much.
I think there’s some confusion here. Gamers nexus has an article where he explains pbo here’s from his article Default for Socket AM4 is at least 142W on motherboards rated for 105W TDP processors.
Thanks man. It's good that a lot of these surface level clickbaity titles are getting called out. Don't get me wrong, I like classical technology but he usually just says something is bad without offering a solution like with the 3080 mem temps.
I'm the same way. I enjoyed watching Diago (I think his name is from recollection), but him and the dude from GamerMeld have the same ordeal; they're just taking big news articles and making in depth videos on primarily the headlines. This is partly why I just haven't watched anything from them in the last 3 months or so. They're really nice dudes, but it's getting kind of frustrating how they (and others like them) could be part of the problem for, seemingly, fueling the frustration for gamers/enthusiasts. Whilst Jay and Steve are trying to rein people in and get them to remain somewhat level headed about various issues with the current tech world/economy. I know this kinda went way more in depth than I meant it to, but I've been feeling the same way that you stated.
@@blackmetalchemist Yeah honestly, its kind of annoying at times, like there is hype to be generated elsewhere and if your sacrificed daily uploads for less frequent but more in depth uploads, maybe he'd get a little bit less algorithm but man he would have really high viewer retention and maybe he would grow slowly but he'd consistently grow and keep existing subs and gain new ones.
I have this processor running at 4758 almost consistent with a Kraken x63 in an $109 MSI case MSI b550 MB I run under 70c while streaming and playing need for speed heat on ultra. So I don't see a problem. CPU is a beast
Hey man, thanks for the great video! I was starting to get really stressed about buying the 5800x until I came across these videos (also the one where you show what settings to edit in bios). I followed all the settings as stated, but my maximum PPT doesn't go above 100W, tested with windows power plan at Balanced and Max performance. Any clue as to why that might be?
problem fixed: i format the windows 10 start fresh and now i sit idle with my 5800x 34'c with Arctic Liquid 2 360 AIO before idle 60'c and gaming 83', now gaming 64'c and idle 32-34'C with power plan at Performance and did not touch the bios at all excepted enabling Smart Acess Memory. Boost at 4825-4850 ghz all the core, all the time in gaming. Apex FPS around 299 dont go below 220 with Msi 6800XT trio X. ( Golden Chip )
for whatever reason, my default settings were 480W PPT, 380A TDC and 215A EDC, no wonder it was overheating on my scythe fuma 2 so easily, although it never went above ~108W.. Thank you!
Endelig en video man kan bruge til noget end alle de hoveder der bare snakker i ring hele tiden og igen. Bare det du giver dig tid til at vise det visuelt er et mega plus. Er sgu mere tryk ved at købe 5800X nu efter at have set din video.
Did I get an amd blessed 5800x or something? only found this video as I was curious why I saw so many heat comments. I genuinely thought maybe something wasn't right on this build initially it was running that cool idle and games vs what I had seen online. I have done a ton of benchmarks and tests so it isn't just a particular game and even benchmarks that are extremely unrealistic scenarios I think 72 was the highest I ever saw it top out? I believe I had the heater cranking then lol... Games at 1440p and 4k generally about 52 to 59 it will peak at and usually sit in between those numbers. I have had the occasional game or scene in game with low 60s while yesterday in dying light of all things I watched my lcd screen and it was sitting at 66 for some time which at this rate is a rare occasion lol. I know there are cooler cpu than this but yeah for this ones rep wtf is going on with the difference here?
Thanks so much. I was thinking my DanCase A4 SFX 5800X build is not possible but as it turns out my CPU was constantly hitting 90°+ in basic tasks because Ryzen Masters default settings somehow were literally the Max values for PPT TDC and EDC now im sitting at a cool 60C in idle and 88 in Aida64
Brother i liked your video alot, but my ryzen master software is kinda difrent. maybe they updated or something can you check on yours if you can still see and change the values? Also in bios should I turn off pbo or on?
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I can't thank you enough man, im not the most experienced person in these kinds of stuff and so im always a little bit insecure about messing up all these voltage shit and potentially breaking my pc.
I wen't from hitting about 81/82Cº in cinebench with a H150i cappelix at probs 70%-80% fan speed to a mere 67-69Cº with 35-40% fan speed just by following what you did.
Not a single reviewer has given an easy to follow solution for the unexperienced for this problem like you have, again, thank you!
I just stumbled on your video a few months after I have bought my CPU and the temps were the only issue for me, reaching 80C easily and maxing 90 on a 360mm AIO and I tried using clocktuner for Ryzen and it did help a little bit but temps still got very high, then after watching your video and using your settings gets me to 78 max with a performance increase (14700 previously, 14900 currently) so I thank you very much for your video.
Glad it helped! =D
also have the 5800X now running at 90° in CB with an 360mm AIO
had the 2700X before never going above 75° at 4,3Ghz All Core
i was shocked about the temperatures but i will definetly try the solution from the video later! :)
@@linsetv aaaaand did it help?
@@ojb6161 yes!! about 10-12° cooler under load!
@@linsetv i are all the 5800 x CPUs that hot or are some people just unlucky i really wanna get it
I went from 90 degrees at 4.10 Ghz to 84 degrees 4,50 Ghz. Thank you very much!
what cooler???
thats bullshit no way
Glad somebody said it, this thing is amazing and i never even had hot temps to begin with. airflow is important.
Lucky you. Mine runs hot even with a AIO
@@XDaWsOnX2 Yes. Agreed.. I just got my 5800X up and running with a MASSIVE 360mm AIO... At STOCK settings, it's currently hitting nearly 70c installing a few Steam games!
@@bliglum so the 5800x is getting warm even with 360 aio cooler? Coz im planning to buy it with the 360 cooler .. im gonna use it for gaming browsing studying and a little bit work is the temp still be high ?
@@hasoonysoony3383 It was, but I found the solution. You just gotta undervolt it a bit. I'm now undervolted, overclocked, and no longer thermal throttling.
@@bliglum when u undervolt it .. it won't reduce the performance of the cpu ??
Your a life saver man! All I found before were videos about it running hot but no solutions. I noticed right away on my new build going from my 2700x to the 5800x. I was running 88-90c under load with an MSI Mag 240mm AIO in a push/pull setup.
After using Ryzen master to tweak the settings. I instantly saw a huge drop. Running 72-74c in cinebench tests and only lost 0.2 ghz across all cores. Boost all cores to 4.4ghz. I am running an x470 MB, eventually I will get an x570 board and spend more time really tweaking it.
You have gave me peace of mind and a great starting point. I was about to return it and start saving for a 5900x. Saved me that headache and prob $180.
Thank you very much for this video and your instructions. Though I am an IT guy, BIOSes can be difficult to navigate due to terminology differences between manufacturers, CPU generations, etc. Your comments were insightful (and amusing, too), and your explanation of this heating issue is the best I have found thus far. After taking the few seconds to make the BIOS changes, my system is now running MUCH cooler with lower fan speeds, and I do not see any performance degradation whatsoever. Again, many thanks! :)
PPT 120, TDC 100, EDC 80, idle at 30 degrees, max temp is 48 degrees with an Arctic Liquid Cooler II 360. CPU Voltage is set to a negative -0.15 offset and core optimization is set to negative 10 on the 2 favorite cores and 15 on all the others. No issues, I reach 4.8 boost almost constantly (lowest is 4.786). I bought the 5800X because I saw your vid :)
EDC 80 ? Isn't this causing issues with L3 cache performance ?
Bro you saved me big time! Got a 5800X 3 days ago that was driving me insane! Continuous slow creep to 90c in about 5 minutes while gaming, thermal throttling, games stuttering, cpu temp warning alert, the works. Using a Cooler Master MasterAir MA410M and 6 case fans. Was about to sell this thing cuz I tried so much stuff. Used your exact settings and temps down by about 15 to 20c depending on the game, idling at 45c, no more stuttering in games even when it hits the max 85c limit, and for the first time my chip broke clean through the 5Ghz barrier. I went from hating to loving this cpu lmao. You're the man!!
I have been trying for a week to figure this bad boy out. Tried a ton of curve options. Temp throttle and a ton of ppt tdc edc changes. All had small impact and always hot. TH-cam recommended this video today. I tried your settings and BAM. We are in business. Single core runs 60 in r23 at 4.8 and multi core is 4.4. Good enough for me
Some reviewers here in brazil figured out how to do something like this to cool the cpu but none explained this much why it happens. Thank you a lot.
Amazing, informative video. Your settings took 15c degrees off of my 5800x during cinebench stress test. I set Boost Override CPU to 200 as it did not let me set the value to 199 as shown in the video, worked just fine. Pushed my max clock speed to 5.05 GHz! THANK YOU (:
i just bought a pre-built with a 5800x and was really confident in the purchase. then i came to youtube, and watched some videos, i was slightly concerned but thought they were probably being dramatic. thanks for this video, it gave me peace of mind.
Same man. I was building my pc and I just picked this cpu for how good people talk about it and how It runs stuff I'm looking for smoothly. Then after I buy it and it's coming on the way I see these mfs talkin bout how it gets hot. Now I'm really happy I even got the cpu I want
Dude. Simply brilliant. I literally was just about exchange this CPU. Now I’m going to implement this advice and see what happens. I knew there was something funky when OC at maximum got exactly the same 90-degree FurMark benchmark. I was scratching my head and now I know why!
Update: I started with the recommended settings and did some things slightly different to accommodate my exact situation. Default settings for PPT,TDP, EDC are 142, 95, 140 respectively. I set mine to 109, 95, 130 which yielded a Cinebench score of 15092 @76C. I kept the other stuff auto. I may also reset my Dark Rock Pro cooler with a different thermal paste, but we'll see.
did you do any curve optimizer , or just stock?
This is a great video for confused people like me
No one was talking about this
Thank you
Thank you, brother. Indirectly, you saved my PC from very high temps. This is applicable even on my 3800X. 3800X has the same PPT, TDC and EDC values by default like a 5800X. And now everything works like a charm. Temps are amazing. Cheers!
I gotta thank you a lot for that vídeo. Very helpful, now I feel comfortable again with my temps. I just couldn't see any difference in performance in my day to day use after changing the settings. Thumbs up!
My Noctua NH-D15 inside of Fractal design torrent nano case managed to cool my 5800X with the default settings which is 140 W 95 A 142 PBO -15 All cores been rendering gaming streaming no issues in cinebench full load I set around 78C ~ 82C at 4.6Ghz on all cores and while gaming it's just a joke 45C ~ 58C, Very happy with it it's a beast of a CPU.
Those PPT/TDC/EDC settings are right on the money, Ive tried changing values but even with my fancy cooler nothing gets me better clocks/temps than that.
Mine was "auto" going to TDP180 and kept going to 90c and I couldn't figure out why this really helped thank you! :D
I didn't research cpu too much but I'm loving it, more so shocked to see all these temp issues and just assuming I'm lucky I have no temp issues at all haha
Thank you sir! CPU running cool and efficient after setting TDP and no curve offset. Finally!
The info in this video is quite amazing. First, I have great cpu cooling with a noctua nh-d15s with two fans and great case air flow.
With pbo on and ppt, tdc edc set to auto, my 5800x runs about 82c after a 5 minute run of cinebench r20, and 70-75c while playing games which is well within specs and is okay, but then...
Using the info here I set PPT to 115, TDC to 100, and EDC to 80, and now it runs at 70c which is 15 degrees cooler and only loses a few hundred points from the cinebench score. I lost about 3 fps in games.
15 degrees cooler and 3 fps loss in gaming which is not enough of a performance loss to notice.
Thanks.
In September this video still holds true. Very concise and convinced me to buy one, used the ppt as shown in video, rocking a noctua nah-d15s(single fan), 5800x now is chef kisses 4.8ghz running with temps around 55-65 most games
Edit: Cyberpunk is a piece of shit that runs at 65-70, don’t know what’s up with the code in that game
One more edit for all those wondering:
PBO2 is set to 25 offset all cores and I changed ppt in bios not ryzen master
There is NO way you are running that cool with an air cooler i cant even get below 80c on a 240mm aio..... this cpu is dogshit and runs way too hot period.
I can count all knowledgable reviewers on one hand
Another "Thank you Sir" on the books man. Great video and way to provide a solution. Much appreciated.
A year later, and this is till the most underrated 5800x video on the Internet.
This guy has that University professor energy and im all for it. Great video.
You're a pure genius. Went from cinebench temps of 85 during 5 min test (cinebench23) to max temp of 69 with it pretty much staying at 68. Yeah the overall score took a slight hit, but well worth it to preserve my chip. Hats off to you my friend. {cooler -- coolmaster MA612 stealth}
@THEnelsonbruhs PPT, EDC, and TDC settings. I used the ones he listed and it worked great. But I ended up using 120, 85, 110 as my final settings.
@THEnelsonbruhs You will take a hit on the cinebench score, but check your clock speeds. Mine boost to 4.85 on all cores regularly. Actually hit 5ghz, but that isn't the norm and wasn't on all cores.
@THEnelsonbruhs Cinebench score is slightly lowered, but the performance is still incredible, don't worry too much about score (unless it drops severely, like under 12k). The temp control is the important thing. At the out of the box temps the chip is sure to fail prematurely and/or your system will be forced to experience constant shutdowns (if gaming and such).
Had buyers remorse for a bit... thank you for confirming that I made the right choice.
You get less memory latency hit since it’s just one ccd chiplet for 5800X. It does run a little hotter, but curve optimizer and a slightly more aggressive fan curve for gaming is easily doable. I do this with a nhd15s cooler with stock pbo2 manual 142w ppt / 95A / 140A.
Great video as I'm about to purchase the 5800x. Subscribed!
I first tried Ryzen Master but I couldn't figure out how to change the settings in there, went into the BIOS and after a bit of googling managed to find the right settings/menu to enter the PPT/TDC/EDC settings, booted back up and I'm instantly down from 70*C to 45*C with a Corsair Elite Capellix 360
Thanks so much!
I observed the same. My 5900x runs cooler at stock settings. But after I've played around with my 5800x a bit I now get 6150 points in r20 and barely hit 72c. My 5800x does negative 30 for the curve optimizer and the lower power target all day long. So I think I got a good unit.
Could you please share settings just to give me a reference?
Nice one dude..
Nice analysis
I have ordered a r7 5800x now
I ll see how my cpu performs
suspenso xd
I know the impact on performance in BENCHMARKS REALLY There!! But to see it compensate you loose some you win some, I take that! Really appreciate the tweak share on video..
Change PPT to 115W really make different in temp in Ryzen 7 5800x!
Most motherboards have an ECO setting, and PBO presets for lower wattages, and many even have a setting to limit the temperature. If the 90°C temperature limit concerns you, try those settings - no need to get fancy or complicated. Using a Curve Optimizer negative offset lowers the core voltage, but the processor compensates by upping the clocks, so you get higher clock speeds at the same temperatures. That is how all the 5000 CPUs are all designed to work. They run the clock speeds up until the CPU hits 90°C. You can easily drop the temperature by 10°C by simply using one of the aforementioned presets, and you'll only see a 2% to 3% performance reduction in all-core loads.
Exactly what i needed thanks. Cpu temp greatly improved.
@Danishblunt - thanks for the video! I recently got a 5800X and built it last night. I have a h115i AIO in a Corsair 5000D Airflow case. I'm going to check my voltage later tonight.
god damn your english accent is very good and you're Danish, literally thought i was watching an american guy
amazing, i am so glad i found this. fixed my temps, went from 90 to 73.
Thank you so much. For beginner like me, make sure you download the program to change the set up
Thanks a lot man. I went from 89deg in 3 minutes of cinebench to 73deg max for full cinebench run. Thanks!!!
I hate reviewers too brother, I bought the 5800x and Love this CPU, I am a small techtuber but with the all the miss information out there whenever I mention this people say I'm wrong because some big youtuber said so, ppl need to inform themselves. I was so happy to buy this beast CPU that over clocks exceptionally! You gained a SUB like and comment lol I have mine on water a custom loop, and I saw it at stock go to 1.4 v 4.6 Ghz and 81c after 45 minutes in cinebench r23, that was so bad. I have since then go to 4.75 1.25 v at 77c and I'm still messing around with it cause I know I can get more out of it. Plus I'm not the best over clocker lol I wanted to do a similiar video like yours for my subs, if you have any info for me or want to add to this please message me so we can maybe collab or whatever lol Great video mucho respect brother
Okay tried it with some modifications of my own. My 5800X seems to be getting nerfed by ASUS BIOS updates. 6.1k to 5.9k CB20. No idea why this is the case. I was worried about the thermal performance at first because it's dismal considering that I'm running the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420mm. I've tried offset mounts and different thermal pastes to no avail. Thermal paste spread was fairly consistent too.
For my old settings that got me the 5.9k score, it was running at -25 on all cores (Curve Optimiser) and peaked at 84 degrees.
I tried these settings
PPT: 125
TDC: 100
EDC: 80
Curve Optimiser: -25 all core
All core boost reads between 4.6-4.65Ghz and the temps max out at 79 degrees. All core score is still 5.9k ish. I experienced a drop to 5.65k for 115W so 125W worked better for my specific CPU. Overall, I'd say that the guide worked great as a starting point. Thanks for sharing!
Anyway an update! I found out that the drop on score was caused by AURA Sync. Turning it off before i started the test got the score back up to normal.
Current settings are still
PPT: 125
TDC: 100
EDC: 80
Curve Optimiser:
C0: -20
C1: -25
C2: -20
C3: -20
C4: -20
C5: -15
C6: -20
C7: -25
Better stability for me, as i realized that C5 is an exceptionally weak core on my CPU.
CB20 scores (updated)
Multicore: 6087
Singlecore: 631
Thanks for this video and the accompanying bios guide. I was able to go from 90ºC to a much more manageable 83ºC. My multi core score in Cinebench R23 was about 3.5% lower. Might mess around and see if I can improve performance/decrease temps even more.
Do you live in a cold or hot country? Because I'm considering getting this CPU but I live in a really hot region in Brazil and I don't have air conditioner.
I’m using a Corsair H55 water cooler, so here’s how I managed to get stable temperatures in full load (80~82 Celsius average) without throttling. Playing games (65~74 Celsius average). Some games in 1080p (Valorant) and others in 2K (Sekiro) or 4K (Horizon New Dawn, Ori). In idle 33 Celsius.
First, check in Ryzen Master which are the fastest cores, then in BIOS:
PPT: 105W
TDC: 80 A
EDC: 90 A
Optimization curve:
Core 1: 22 Negative
Core 2: 22 Negative
Core 3: 22 Negative
Core 4: 22 Negative
Core 5: 17 Negative (Fastest core)
Core 6: 22 Negative
Core 7: 22 Negative
Core 8: 20 Negative (Second fastest core).
OMG I AM SO HAPPY THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU OUT THERE! I watched that idiot's video who you mentioned is spreading misinformation and almost didn't buy a 5800X. Thank you so much.
Ikr they r so annoying. I bought that cpu, its comin in the way and then I see these mfs talkin bout it gets hot.
Just fix the max voltage to 1.2V in the bios settings, before the CPU used to reach 90°C in AIDA64 Extreme CPU+FPU+cache test in around 30 seconds with the voltage getting as high as 1.475V and 4,4-4,5GHz , now with lowered voltage reaches almost 4,9GHz and runs at 71°C in the same test ... Also you consume less energy with wattage going from high 120W figures to around 100W .
It's not a good idea because AMD chips are more susceptible to high current damage than high voltage. If you force low voltage on an AMD chip you force high current which will degrade your chip quicker, this misconception about keeping voltage low is due to intel chips working in reverse where voltage is the main degradation point when having mediocre current.
@@danishblunt9698 but the wattage dropped from 120 to around 95-100W , at least for MSI afterburner. I have no other way to measure the consumption.
@@jamarcus_OG the current will rise the higher the temps are going to get as well. Manual mode also has no protection against to much current either as you can see if you open ryzen master when you check your limits. While manual does lower powerdraw it does raise current and removes limits completely leaving your cpu to get quite current hungry.
Its not going to instantly kill your cpu or anything but your cpu will get more unstable over the next few weeks and youll have to steadily up the voltage since the chip degrades.
@@danishblunt9698 So your suggestion are .. ? If I'm not wrong, a simple rule (not exact by any means) states that W=V•A , so to draw 104W=1,2V • 87,5A (theoretical) . With default (or Auto) mobo bios settings 143W=1,413V • 101A (theoretical) with the default settings. HW info, during an AIDA64 Extreme stress test on CPU-FPU-Cahce , with downvoltage to 1,2V , detected TDC 67Amp peak / EDC 140Amp peak , while with default auto settings TDC up to 89Amp with the same 140Amp EDC which is Mobo limited. So no my friend, downvoltage isn't hurting anything, maybe the opposite. I got 300MHz plus of boost on all cores with downvoltage, 20°C less peak temperature, 23A less peak TDC , 40W less peak consumption. Don't spread misinformation please. If you want proof , I still have screenshots of the tests and values detected...
It's been more than 5 months now since your last post so how's the performance with 1.2v? Are you still using the 5800x??
When i first booted my pc with this cpu, a simple task as opening facebook on chrome had my cpu temp rising above 70C and still climbing. Im running it in a node 202 which cant hold a big cooler (yes i know it isn't smart). i overclocked it to 4.2ghz and undervolted to 1.35v and now it maxes out in the 60's. Its really impressive how much of a difference doing an under volt can make while keeping performance
For my 5800x, I used AMD rizen master set it in Laptop mode! Cooler used is a Be Quiet rock 4, in an old CoolerMaster Scout 2 case.Was 125watts now 98!
I have a 5800x and changed my settings to 123 PPT = 80 TDC = 90 EDC. And -30 curve offset with 100 speed boost. Temps are at 71 degrees 4.950 ghz and a 637 cinebench r23 single core
what cooler and motherboard and stuff do you have
@@DIRTYPENIS Hi. I have the the Asus turf wireless motherboard. The cooler that I have is the Arctic cooler 420. I got that one when I herd that these cpus run hot. Before changing the settings I would still see it hit 84 degrees. With new settings I hit 71 with biggger results all around
@@jerryjr1701 I too bought the Artic Cooler 420mm and am almost constantly edging too close to 90c, gonna try these settings. Hopefully, I'll have some luck.
Thanks for your explanation. I found your video at 5AM (GMT+8) 🤣
I try doing every video regarding undervolt for lower temp on this 5800X. 😂
Most of them, CB R23 stop working. Some of them only 1 rending left, it stop.
I apply your settings on BIOS, and test CO -5 all core CB work fine. But temp reduce little bit.
My pc case is CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW with 4x Cooler Master MasterFan MF120 Halo + Cooler Master MasterFan MF140R ARGB + Cooler Master MasterFan MF140R Halo ARGB. For CPU Cooler, I'm using Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition + Cooler Master MasterFan SF120R ARGB.
Fan setup is 3x front intake, 2x top and 1x back is exhaust.
Oh ya, I'm using MB ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING. My previous processor is R5 3500X. 😆
Now i try -10 and left it to take a nap. Later i wake up, i check it. 😴
Thank you I'm upgrading from Ryzen 2600 ( OC 40.5 Ghz ) and wanted to go to the 5800X ( $439 Can. on sale ) . But I saw everyone saying not to by runs way to hot. Thanks now I'm upgrading to a 5800X need it for my GPU the 2600 is my bottle neck for sure.
Thank you for this info-- i am right now, assembling a 5800x box (cant get 5900x) for Chia plotting. It will run 24/7 at approx 75% load, Undervolting will most likely help a lot.
first of all i do agree with this guy and yes i left a big comment on that dude saying don't buy this and that, which is total BS
and as someone who dealt with at least 15 Ryzen 2 and Ryzen 3 CPUs i can say that the motherboards are super generous with the voltage which makes the CPU go nuts and exceed what so many people consider "safe temps"
but you take just one minute and actually check the bios or maybe update it to support PBO 2.0 you will see that the temps will go down and the performance will remain the same, it's really simple you just need to have an idea on how the voltage is over supplied to the CPU
also we didn't have this issue with the Zen+ CPUs they ran cool and didn't have any temp spikes even if they used a IO die + a CCD on one side of the IHS.
my X570 was literally chocking my CPU with a lot of voltage on auto settings making it idle at 55c ffs 55c on idle that's not great but after some tinkering i got it down to 40c on idle and 73c under load
while gaming it's always around the high 50s low 60s depending on how CPU demanding the title is
so no go out and get any Zen 3 CPU that you can get your hands on, they are literally the best out there.
LOL! I wonder why the fk you used Paint instead of just Txt document, when its just numbers and letters.
Great video and i appreciate the infos. Thank you.
Because my production value is equal to poopoo
You're so funny man "these fucking morons" - made my day. :D I'm running 5800x ofc, just use undervolting to gain more performance running leess temperatures. But that is of course a more advanced way.
That's what I did and now I get between 12 and 20 degree cooler temps depending on load.
I just got it for $399 at Micro Center. Looking forward to following your tips.
I got mines for 400 from my friend like 3 months ago... it's soo good
Have a 5800X. Don't have all the crazy hot temps suggested by the bandwagon YT influencer's. In fact it runs smoother than my previous 3800X which ran hotter in benchmarks . One thing i did find when upgrading this new CPU on a X570 board with all the recent BIOS updates make a clean install of windows after. I'm honestly sure this is often overlooked by many. You can not drop another processor on to the same board to gain best results.
Also I was searching and found a reddit post where they only used the basic window of ryzen master, they set their max clock to 4600 and voltage to 1.25, I did the same thing and got amazing results
Thanks man. You explained it perfectly.
I snapped up my 5800x from OCUK when they briefly went on sale for £380. Running it with just XMP and PBO enabled had me pushing past 85c playing Cyberpunk under a 360 AIO. After I confirmed it wasn't a bad mount I was getting close to RMAing it. A run with Ryzentuner gained nothing of note but surprisingly it rated my chip as a golden sample. The PBO Voltage offset feature getting added confirmed why. -30 is stable in use but will see the occasional crash if left idle for several hours. -28 is bomb proof for me. ~6200 Cinebench scores without a clean windows install and 4.750 ghz all core boost all day long. The one let down is that I seem to hit a wall at 4.850ghz single core and I'm yet to find a way to get past that. 623 Cinebench single core is passable at least. I'm damn glad I didn't return this thing though. I'm genuinely curious if it's sustained 4750mhz all core boost has it pipping the 5900x in newer more multi threaded games.
What is this "Ryzentuner" you speak of. Do you mean Ryzen Master? I'm interested to see how my chip is rated.
What cooler are you using mate?
I’m using the Aorus 360 AIO. It’s a pretty generic Asetek 360 as far as I can tell
Tech notices video made my ducking blood boil. Good work man it’s such a simple fix and a fantastic processor. Even next to my 5900x the cpu is great. These people should be more concerned with specific ram to use, motherboards, nvme drives, motherboard chipsets and how/why the pcie lanes are connected for optimal video editing. I just see a kid grabbing random *new components with little to no explanation of why. Dude Guaranteed has no actual idea how a pc works in unison and how to properly set it up. He actually said “it’s not worth having to SET UP your computer.” I mean WHAT!?!?!
Conclusion- don’t listen to people who only buy the most expensive and newest parts and give you tutorials on how to build a pc are not competent. That don’t understand basic principles of how important things like cast latency, chipsets, memory controllers, how to configure your Fucking bios….. ok I’m done. Thanks man I’m glad you made this video.
legit guide...Changed my stock settings to 120,100,80 and ran CB23, got a 15280 score on a corsair H150i. Stock idle was around 44 degrees, now idles at 39 degrees. stocks settings on CB23 used to hit 80 degrees, now caps at 71 degrees.
Thank you for this video bro!
I have almost canceled my 5800x because of many reddit, youtube, forum topics about "too hot 5800x".
I'm waiting for 5800x, Gigabyte X570 Gaming X, 32GB HyperX 3000Mhz CL15 to upgrade PC. (already have 1080Ti)
The motherboard was the only option in my country for AM4 (ATX).
Hope this combo will be top performer for everything Gaming, Rendering, Video Edit.
EDIT: Arctic Liquid Freezer II (240MM) for CPU.
While i personally do perfer aircooling over watercooling on the CPU due to the nature of CPU having more of burst loads I think given the right settings you should be absolutely fine. I have a gigabyte board as well.
@@danishblunt9698 in my country I could get for 80-90 eur Cooler Master Air Cooling (2x120mm) or this Arctic Liquid 240mm for 95eur. Arctic seems better choice to me since I can't get the most quality Air Coolers here.
@@filipradulovic2673 That's absolutely fine. As i said, aircooler is preferable but not a must. Many people have cases where a beefy aircooler is not an option. While it's prefered to have an aircooler on the CPU, watercooling will also do the job. Just saying :)
As mentioned before, i strongly suggest getting a good paste and then try again, also make sure the cooler sits somewhat tight so it makes proper contact with the CPU.
Also what pumpspeed are you running at?
@@danishblunt9698 I just got everything an hour ago. Tomorrow I will build the system. I have two thermal pastes - first stock from Arctic from the box and other is Cooler Master "High Performance" paste.
Maybe first to try with stock paste and if that paste doesn't bring a good temps, to try with other.
@@filipradulovic2673 I hope its not this paste:
www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/thermal-grease/high-performance-thermal-paste/
Because that paste is extremely bad. Coolermasters good paste is named "MasterGel"
A CPU at this price should Work without doing anything in the BIOS.
what about i5 10600k/11600k/10900k/11900k?
It will perfectly fine if you have enough airflow.
@@buggerlugz6753 No
@@DeepteshLovesTECH Do you have a iq of 62 or below. He said “A CPU at this price should work without doing anything in the BIOS”, did you see or read that he stated 5800x?
It works perfectly fine out of the box. The steps illustrated in this video are not compulsory. This person wanted PBO to be less aggressive with voltage and power for less heat output -- fine. But stock, these chips are designed to be safe and functional. And Ryzen CPUs have higher heat tolerances than Intel: www.pcgamer.com/amd-views-ryzen-5000-cpu-temperatures-up-to-95c-as-typical-and-by-design/
I used Ryzen Master to determine my Curve Optimizer settings, it'll auto figure it out.
Also, when using your recommended settings, my temps definitely went down but my Cinebench R23 score dropped a bunch. From 14400 down to 11900
Great video buddy , keep up.
I got 5800x recently too and managed to lower temps drastically by doing this in bios : PBO on, i set limits (for W/A/A) to disabled (keeps them in CPU stock values), Auto OC of +200mhz, and i used curve optimizer with negative 20 for all cores. my cpu runs at 64 degrees in games and around 86 degrees in cinebench with Dark rock pro 4 cooler. (before it was 76c in games and 90c in cinebench).
Also i think it is an amd thing, when i managed to lower the temps, my cpu gets to higher clocks, up to 4.65ghz all core in cinebench, and around 5ghz on single core apps
Bro Need Your Help to Less the Temperature of my 5800x
@@Atikrahmanshuvo which cooler are you using? I can share my exact settings and give them a try
@@Atikrahmanshuvo i suggest you check TheGrayingTech 5 parts series on how to use Rayzen master to get the best settings for your chip, then put them in bios once you like the result
Thank You So Much..
Brother For the Covid i'm not get my choiced coller nzxt x63...
I'm now useing my old nzxt m22...
But i'm now useing this for only light work..
@@Atikrahmanshuvo i don't know much about that cooler, but you might wanna try to disable power limits and use curve optimizer if your bios is up to date. The cpu goes over limit in stock setting. If you got an email i can send you all my settings so you can start from there and tweak them to fit your chip. Silicone lottery is a thing with these CPUs
I entirely agree there is too few actually good reviews these days. The really good reviews I watch are from HU and GN. All of the others have things that I don't like in them...
John Jenkins the ram config video from GN was half baked. 4x8 is generally equal or slightly better than 2x16 depending on mobo topology. From just reading lots of compiled stats, dual rank is generally 133-200mhz better than single rank dual channel. So 3600cl16 dual rank is about 3600cl14 or 3800cl18 single rank. Also, dual rank will mainly benefit from more cpu bound games. So, games that are more gpu bound maybe naturally or due to running at a higher resolution like 2560x1440, generally not going to see much difference between similar memory timings and speeds.
curve optimizer => all core => negative offset => negative 23 magnitude. 5,0 GHz not even passing 80° mark. :)
what's the value PBO have you set? PPT , TDC, EDC = ? have you tried cinebench R20 last for 20' continuosly ? Does it stable? I have the same negative, not passing 83 C, but the PC Crash down and reset at the 3rd round R20. ( maybe because temperatures continue raising up too high after each round )
Thank you, this solved the issue for me completely.
such an informative video! Thanks for sharing!
Last night I did my first ever Cinebench R23 run on my 5800X cpu that I bought on release and never thought to undervolt until now. Here are my STOCK results all core - (MAx values) 88.4c / 4.81GHz / 150.4w / 1.419V with a Phanteks Glacier One 280mm AIO. Im keen to tr this "Fix" to a problem that isnt too much of an issue but if I can get lower temps, I all for it because that cpu paired with the XFX 6900XT, my case gets toasty.
Honest straight forward, Liked and Subbed Dubd good job
I bought parts from 3 separate vendors. 5800X, Asus B550-F Gaming and a Cooler Master 240mm AIO. Temps were insanely high in an open box setup. Felt fucked. I didn't know where the problem was. Ordered another cooler (Hyper 212 EVO v2) just to do some troubleshooting (the noise coming from the AIO was unbearable) and avoid dealing with 3 separate vendors.
Same thing.
Then I cracked open CPU-Z and noticed it was pumping a constant 1.45v to vCore. WTF?! Went into BIOS, tweaked the settings. It's now an all-core 1.25v 4.7GHz with idle temps of 40C and stress tested to 76C. On air. In a closed mini tower case.
THEN I found your video.
I blame it on the mobo makers, tbh. They don't seem to have proper BIOSes for this piece of kit.
Well not quite. I would strongly suggest you do not put manual voltage. AMD CPU's have no problem handling high voltage, however they are very susceptible to degradation caused by high current draw and temperature. Manual voltage usually forces the CPU to get out of spec with the amp draw to compensate for the low voltage. When you look for degrading Ryzen CPU you will notice that all are "manual" users.
That being said, 1.45vcore under load is way higher than it should normally be, under load (like cinebench) a 5800x should typically be around 1.2 - 1.3v. Maybe check for beta BIOSes for your motherboard.
i tested the 65w eco mode from the bios, and it went from 6k in cinebench R20 to 5.65k, from 90C to 65C, i thinking of running it with around 85w
How'd the test go?
How did you do that? I wanna do 95W for mine.
Great video about time for someone to have a rant about the reviewers not knowing what they are talking about.
I have the AMD 5800x they are a great CPU, keep the video coming dude,
you have a sub from me.
Awesome video,I did 90+hours of straight research getting bak into the pc game on my new dreamachine, so i couldnt agree more do your own research use multiple sources. I was able to school the tech guys that told me that my 5800x i just hot.. well yea stock.. Also how to you write 7's if thats how 1's looks XD. Thanks again.
holy sh*t, went from 90 to 60 degrees. somehow ryzen master was overriding bios settings for me, and PPT was 1000w 😂
edit: it was a buggy bios that was the cause for the settings to not save, a newer version did fix this.
I have a 3700x. I don’t overclock and don’t really care too. At stock hz the stock volts was 1.45 which is unnecessarily high especially for stock hz. I dropped it down to 1.3 and my temps went from 39C to 28C at idle.
Need good airflow and be aware of what you need to change in the bios.
cpu cooler?
My bottleneck isn't the heat concentration on the die, but my cooling limitation due to a sff cooler. Curve optimizer undervolting will do the trick for me
IMPORTANT: The TDC and EDC were in reverse in my video, idk why I had a brainfart there, its TDC 80 and EDC 90, which most of your probably have already figured out, for those who have done it in reverse, also no problem as TDC cannot exceed EDC anyways, however that value would be quite low. I would recommend going for TDC 80 and EDC 90 for best performance :)
0:00 - 3:01 rant
3:01 - 5:56 Hardware problem
5:57 - 7:06 Software problem
7:07 - 12:00 what to expect after fix
12:01 - 14:02 Cooling efficiency explained
14:03 - 17:47 my settings
17:48 running test and end
If you have any questions regarding settings and such, feel free to ask I'll try to answer, otherwise join my discord for support in case you have some issue with your build or performance.
Great vid my man. I own this chip and If done right its amazing. 4.8 plus all day and I can get 5.0-4.999 all cores is game custo.e water.
@Milos Petrovic ill make a video soonish as this has come up quite a bit.
THANK GOD someone who actually is out here on YT to help others with the 5800x and not making it sound like it was a colossal screw up to get the CPU. Thank you so much.
@@MJSGamingSanctuary it's a great chip
@Milos Petrovic I would say 4.6 to 4.8 depending on your area.
Cooler master hyper212 on my 5800x. 100% usage gives me 83c max. Gaming 60-77. On b450f strix
EDIT: Its 90c in cinebench :D But on a hot summer day.
With your settings + Max CPU boost Override set to 150MHz(
I think there’s some confusion here. Gamers nexus has an article where he explains pbo here’s from his article
Default for Socket AM4 is at least 142W on motherboards rated for 105W TDP processors.
Thanks man. It's good that a lot of these surface level clickbaity titles are getting called out. Don't get me wrong, I like classical technology but he usually just says something is bad without offering a solution like with the 3080 mem temps.
I'm the same way. I enjoyed watching Diago (I think his name is from recollection), but him and the dude from GamerMeld have the same ordeal; they're just taking big news articles and making in depth videos on primarily the headlines. This is partly why I just haven't watched anything from them in the last 3 months or so. They're really nice dudes, but it's getting kind of frustrating how they (and others like them) could be part of the problem for, seemingly, fueling the frustration for gamers/enthusiasts. Whilst Jay and Steve are trying to rein people in and get them to remain somewhat level headed about various issues with the current tech world/economy. I know this kinda went way more in depth than I meant it to, but I've been feeling the same way that you stated.
@@blackmetalchemist Yeah honestly, its kind of annoying at times, like there is hype to be generated elsewhere and if your sacrificed daily uploads for less frequent but more in depth uploads, maybe he'd get a little bit less algorithm but man he would have really high viewer retention and maybe he would grow slowly but he'd consistently grow and keep existing subs and gain new ones.
@@_unseenhunter_5093 this is beyond accurate
I have this processor running at 4758 almost consistent with a Kraken x63 in an $109 MSI case MSI b550 MB I run under 70c while streaming and playing need for speed heat on ultra. So I don't see a problem. CPU is a beast
Thank you. Thought my pump broke on me. It runs at 90c all the damned time and I thought I was loosing my mind
Hey man, thanks for the great video! I was starting to get really stressed about buying the 5800x until I came across these videos (also the one where you show what settings to edit in bios). I followed all the settings as stated, but my maximum PPT doesn't go above 100W, tested with windows power plan at Balanced and Max performance. Any clue as to why that might be?
problem fixed: i format the windows 10 start fresh and now i sit idle with my 5800x 34'c with Arctic Liquid 2 360 AIO before idle 60'c and gaming 83', now gaming 64'c and idle 32-34'C with power plan at Performance and did not touch the bios at all excepted enabling Smart Acess Memory. Boost at 4825-4850 ghz all the core, all the time in gaming. Apex FPS around 299 dont go below 220 with Msi 6800XT trio X. ( Golden Chip )
for whatever reason, my default settings were 480W PPT, 380A TDC and 215A EDC, no wonder it was overheating on my scythe fuma 2 so easily, although it never went above ~108W..
Thank you!
Endelig en video man kan bruge til noget end alle de hoveder der bare snakker i ring hele tiden og igen. Bare det du giver dig tid til at vise det visuelt er et mega plus. Er sgu mere tryk ved at købe 5800X nu efter at have set din video.
Amazing bro
I have an 5900x and it got to 73c in cinebench. Now it gets to 65C and boots until 4950hz. Undervolt is the best!
Did I get an amd blessed 5800x or something? only found this video as I was curious why I saw so many heat comments. I genuinely thought maybe something wasn't right on this build initially it was running that cool idle and games vs what I had seen online. I have done a ton of benchmarks and tests so it isn't just a particular game and even benchmarks that are extremely unrealistic scenarios I think 72 was the highest I ever saw it top out? I believe I had the heater cranking then lol... Games at 1440p and 4k generally about 52 to 59 it will peak at and usually sit in between those numbers. I have had the occasional game or scene in game with low 60s while yesterday in dying light of all things I watched my lcd screen and it was sitting at 66 for some time which at this rate is a rare occasion lol. I know there are cooler cpu than this but yeah for this ones rep wtf is going on with the difference here?
You either have an aio with offset mount or cool n quiet on in bios which is default for many.
thank you bro for your usefull video!
Thanks so much. I was thinking my DanCase A4 SFX 5800X build is not possible but as it turns out my CPU was constantly hitting 90°+ in basic tasks because Ryzen Masters default settings somehow were literally the Max values for PPT TDC and EDC now im sitting at a cool 60C in idle and 88 in Aida64
This video didn't work until I downloaded ryzen master and changed the settings there. Bios alone did not work.
Thanks dude, good to know this. Thanks
I like this guy.
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This is the best video on the internet 👏 👏
Brother i liked your video alot, but my ryzen master software is kinda difrent. maybe they updated or something can you check on yours if you can still see and change the values? Also in bios should I turn off pbo or on?