You can see in the replays that she steps in front of home plate. Anyone that knows the game even at a basic level will know that you don't need lines to know that she was out of the box at that point.
steve b but yet you took the time to watch?..pretty sure you couldn't foul off a pitch from one of these girls...hell, you'd probably shit yourself up there.
I'm an umpire. The rule is that one foot has to be at least touching the line of the batters box. You can have your toes on the plate at contact as long as your heel is touching the line. If I had to make my best guess in this spot I'd actually let it go. I think the one foot is even with the front. Even so with no clear batter's box I can't see making that call with a tie game late in the game.
Looks like a very good call by the plate up. Her plant foot is directly in front of the plate and her trailing foot is in the air. The announcers point out that the lines have been erased, but the ump was still able to use good judgement.
You are half correct sir. Batters can have a foot in front of home plate and still make contact that is legal. However, BOTH feet need to be inside of the box at the time of contact. So when she made contact, one foot was in front of the plate(which is legal) but the other foot was in the air which makes it illegal. You are correct in saying that she is out but the reason why is incorrect. She is out because she did not have both feet in the batters box, not because one foot was in front of home plate. Hope this clarifies things and yes i am an umpire in Ontario Canada.
only one foot needs to be touching any part of the line of the batters box if the other is in the air. rule 6.06 i believe. unless there's a local modification which i doubt
Absolutely the right call on the out. Even without lines, the foot was in front of home plate. That's DEFINITELY out of the box. Once the manager draws the line on the ground, he needs to be ejected. She failed by keeping him in the game.
Robert M you are correct, her left foot is out of the box to the left, it is not too far towards the field. Watch the slow motion replay and notice you can see part of the line of the left batters box. Extend that line across and she's behind it. She did step out at contact when her left foot was directly in front of home plate.
Pause the video at 1:14 just before the batter makes contact. Back point of home plate is visible, and you can see that the front of her left foot is almost in line with it. Now, home plate is 17" wide, which means that half of home plate = 8.5". The distance between the right edge of home plate and the left edge of the batters box is 6". This means that unless this girl's foot is about 14.5" long at the very least, she is entirely out of the batter's box. Good call by the ump, sloppy footwork by the batter.
so the issue wasn't that she was too forward (to the playing field), rather she was too far to the left, and thus covering the right side of home plate?
The issue is that she stepped directly in front of the home plate. This makes her out of the box at the point of contact and makes the umpire correct in the call.
No. As stated above, the batter's box extends in front of the plate, you can see in the replay where they lines, albeit very smudged, are. She had her foot inside the box when making contact.
There is no box directly in front of the plate. Her foot was in front of the plate. Since there is no box in front of the plate, she stepped out of the box. NCAA Women's Softball Rule 11.2.6 " At the moment of bat-ball contact, the batter may not contact the pitch when any part of her foot is touching home plate, even though she may be touching the lines of the batter’s box. In addition, the batter may not contact the pitch when her entire foot is touching the ground completely outside the lines of the batter’s box.
Ichiro does it and he goes out of the box and they don't say nothing and did anybody hear that lady screaming she was out of the box like 500 times like 🙏 stop
I have known Jana Tidwell for nearly 30 years. She is on her game. Very rarely have I seen her make a mistake in a game. She is a top notch umpire and a hell of a basketball referree
It was IMMEDIATELY obvious that she was way out in front of what would be the marked batter's box. That gives her a jump on a breaking pitch and a head start towards 1st.
I'm an umpire. The rule is that one foot has to be at least touching the line of the batters box. You can have your toes on the plate at contact as long as your heel is touching the line. If I had to make my best guess in this spot I'd actually let it go. I think the one foot is even with the front. Even so with no clear batter's box I can't see making that call with a tie game late in the game.
I need clarification, is she calling her out of the front of the box towards the field or is she saying she stepped forward in front of the plate out of the box?
Some common sense here? Yes the line is completely smudged away. But you should know that planting your foot directly in front of home plate is out of the batter's box.
This is a reason I'm not a big fan of women's softball. Stay in the box, take a swing, then run. Basic fundamentals. Yeah, I know it's "the thing" to run while swinging, but this is what happens.
yankeesfan1324 Lol. Baseball and softball are different games. They're played differently. You should expand your sports knowledge before making snarky comments.
Who teaches these girls how to hit...this isn't Happy gilmore, set your feet and take a proper swing and coaches should teach hitting fundamentals not gimmicks.
1:13 But it looks like she didn't step out of the box until after she hit the ball. Her left foot was inside and she first stepped outside with her right foot after she hit the ball
Ok, I'm seeing some comment saying "Her foot was in front of home plate, so she's out." For starters, the batters box extends behind the plate AND even more in front of the plate. Her front foot stayed within what I would judge as the lines of the box. However, her back foot comes out, but after she makes contact with the ball. A fair call would be foul not out, especially since you can't see distinct lines for the batters box.
Put this in slo-mo (0.25 speed). Watch carefully. Not only will you see her plant her left foot inside the apparent line, you can see her foot mark ALSO inside the line after she leaves the batter's box. Bad call.
her left foot was still in the box and right foot was up in the air. perfect foot work just like a receiver keeping both feet in bounds on a pass. either way it was so close that it shouldn't have been called. that kind of call is only for indisputable obvious evidence that she was out of the box. watch the replay from all the angles in this video.
that women saying she was out of the box is so annoying we get it
I would've waited til everything died down, then walked up to that lady screaming, and asked, "so was she in the box?"
Absolutely the right call. Not really even close. Stepped in front of the plate.
"SHE WAS OUT OF THE BOX!!" "SHE WAS OUT oF the box!!" In my right ear over and ver like god damn shut up
Anybody else really annoyed with the lady yelling "she was out the box" a million times
Someone make a remix of that lady screaming "she was out of the box."
This SHOULD get called WAY more than what it is.
That's what you get for doing that stupid slap hitting... square up and hit the freaking ball...
I couldn't tell by that lady, was she out of the box?
when thinking 'outside' the box is a bad thing.
Did hear the lady in the background say she was out of the bod 100 times
You can see in the replays that she steps in front of home plate. Anyone that knows the game even at a basic level will know that you don't need lines to know that she was out of the box at that point.
Mark Harmon are you saying ahead of or directly in front of?
Someone asked what I meant. I mean directly in front of the plate.
steve b but yet you took the time to watch?..pretty sure you couldn't foul off a pitch from one of these girls...hell, you'd probably shit yourself up there.
I'm an umpire. The rule is that one foot has to be at least touching the line of the batters box. You can have your toes on the plate at contact as long as your heel is touching the line. If I had to make my best guess in this spot I'd actually let it go. I think the one foot is even with the front. Even so with no clear batter's box I can't see making that call with a tie game late in the game.
ya know i take that back...her foot doesnt look big enough. I think that's actually a GREAT call by the plate ump to see that.
Looks like a very good call by the plate up. Her plant foot is directly in front of the plate and her trailing foot is in the air. The announcers point out that the lines have been erased, but the ump was still able to use good judgement.
yet they say there where lines later in game
You are half correct sir. Batters can have a foot in front of home plate and still make contact that is legal. However, BOTH feet need to be inside of the box at the time of contact. So when she made contact, one foot was in front of the plate(which is legal) but the other foot was in the air which makes it illegal. You are correct in saying that she is out but the reason why is incorrect. She is out because she did not have both feet in the batters box, not because one foot was in front of home plate. Hope this clarifies things and yes i am an umpire in Ontario Canada.
only one foot needs to be touching any part of the line of the batters box if the other is in the air. rule 6.06 i believe. unless there's a local modification which i doubt
Maybe that's a rule specifically changed in softball, but in baseball on foot fully outside the box is an out.
Good umps usually have the location of the batters box memorized.
"SHE WAS OUT OF THE BOX"
SHE WASOUTTHEBOX SHE WAsouttATHEBOX OUT OF THE BOX SHEWAS OUTTA THEBOX
She was most definitely out of the box.
maybe don't run before you hit the ball?
It was so fucking annoying when all you heard I By he backround was " OUT OF THE BOX, OUT IF FHE BOX." Like goddamn
no fucking joke like woman we get it she was out of the box
who was out of the what ?
she was practically running to first before the ball even got there..
im totally with the ump
Absolutely the right call on the out. Even without lines, the foot was in front of home plate. That's DEFINITELY out of the box.
Once the manager draws the line on the ground, he needs to be ejected. She failed by keeping him in the game.
An experienced umpire knows where those lines are in relation to home plate. The lines are faded but still visible
Never mind that one foot is right in front of the plate.
Robert M you are correct, her left foot is out of the box to the left, it is not too far towards the field. Watch the slow motion replay and notice you can see part of the line of the left batters box. Extend that line across and she's behind it. She did step out at contact when her left foot was directly in front of home plate.
That's her fault for charging at the ball
this isn't an issue in baseball
who brought a macaw to the game?
Ok lady... We understand she was out of the box.... You don't have to repeat it 100 times...
Pause the video at 1:14 just before the batter makes contact. Back point of home plate is visible, and you can see that the front of her left foot is almost in line with it. Now, home plate is 17" wide, which means that half of home plate = 8.5". The distance between the right edge of home plate and the left edge of the batters box is 6". This means that unless this girl's foot is about 14.5" long at the very least, she is entirely out of the batter's box.
Good call by the ump, sloppy footwork by the batter.
clearly our of box. Good call
Good call.
dude in background funny af
so the issue wasn't that she was too forward (to the playing field), rather she was too far to the left, and thus covering the right side of home plate?
The issue is that she stepped directly in front of the home plate. This makes her out of the box at the point of contact and makes the umpire correct in the call.
Correct. There is an inside line of the baters box. She had covered up home plate which means she is out of the batters box.
GhostHostMemories no your wrong she was out of the box you can be as much to the left but not out of the box
No. As stated above, the batter's box extends in front of the plate, you can see in the replay where they lines, albeit very smudged, are. She had her foot inside the box when making contact.
There is no box directly in front of the plate. Her foot was in front of
the plate. Since there is no box in front of the plate, she stepped
out of the box.
NCAA Women's Softball Rule 11.2.6 " At the moment of bat-ball contact,
the batter may not contact the pitch when any part of her foot is
touching home plate, even though she may be touching the lines of the
batter’s box. In addition, the batter may not contact the pitch when her
entire foot is touching the ground completely outside the lines of the
batter’s box.
good call
apparently she was out of the box....
Great call, she was right on top of it!
Clearly out of the box
Good call by the ump; she left the box before she made contact with the ball. Watch it in 0.5 speed.
She stepped in front of the plate....the call is good
I see so many women batters do this taking a cue from happy gilmore
Why even argue this? Its so obvious
She also ran outside the baseline
150 pitches!? Wow
Ichiro does it and he goes out of the box and they don't say nothing and did anybody hear that lady screaming she was out of the box like 500 times like 🙏 stop
I watched this live and I thought she was out for being out of the box
I bet there arent many boxes that Ump has been out of.
Stay in the damn box then. It's there for a reason.
MY god...she wasn't even CLOSE to being in the box. The fact that she even thought she could possibly get away with that proves bad coaching.
Clearly out
I have known Jana Tidwell for nearly 30 years. She is on her game. Very rarely have I seen her make a mistake in a game. She is a top notch umpire and a hell of a basketball referree
That ump is one mean looking dude.
her right foot is clearly out of the box in front of the plate on contact. that wasn't just the right call but it was a good eye for the umpire.
clearly out.
Oh COMON' .. watch the slow -mo ... she ran two or three full steps before hitting the ball.
that shit needs to be banned any way good job ump
It was IMMEDIATELY obvious that she was way out in front of what would be the marked batter's box. That gives her a jump on a breaking pitch and a head start towards 1st.
I'm an umpire. The rule is that one foot has to be at least touching
the line of the batters box. You can have your toes on the plate at
contact as long as your heel is touching the line. If I had to make my
best guess in this spot I'd actually let it go. I think the one foot is
even with the front. Even so with no clear batter's box I can't see
making that call with a tie game late in the game.
ya know i take that back...her foot doesnt look big enough. I think
that's actually a GREAT call by the plate ump to see that.
She stepped directly in front of the plate between the pitcher and catcher to make contact. Clearly out of the batters box. Out.
I need clarification, is she calling her out of the front of the box towards the field or is she saying she stepped forward in front of the plate out of the box?
Some common sense here? Yes the line is completely smudged away. But you should know that planting your foot directly in front of home plate is out of the batter's box.
When she hit it it looked liked she was completely out of the box
Wtf is that happy Gilmore in softball when did they start allowing running before you hit the ball no wonder why she stepped out the box
I would retract my 1st comment, it does seem she was too far left.
Look at that HIGH SPEED throw at 1:06
This is a reason I'm not a big fan of women's softball. Stay in the box, take a swing, then run. Basic fundamentals. Yeah, I know it's "the thing" to run while swinging, but this is what happens.
Well she wouldn't be called out if softball would be normal and hit right and not do slab hits.
1:14 - .that left foot is close....is the heal "touching" the "line"??? without nice solid lines...
Why would you even try to swing like that? Keep your feet in place and use good fundamentals.
yankeesfan1324 Lol. Baseball and softball are different games. They're played differently. You should expand your sports knowledge before making snarky comments.
+yankeesfan1324 don't comment on things you OBVIOUSLY know nothing about.
in softball that technique is common
maybe they should reline the boxes every so often. i never understood that playing baseball for 14 years.
yankeesfan1324 I completely agree. This batting style is ridiculous.
for all the people that are mad, please realise that there is a fricking batters box for a reason
Someone needs to get their mom , that yelling is so annoying
Why the fuck is slapping even a thing??? Just sit back and take your pitch you don’t need to jump out of the box.
That ump is buff!!
Whoever is in the audience if soo annoying we get it you think she was out of the box
I'm sorry madam can you repeat that? I didn't hear it the first 150 times you said it. Like a damn talking parrot on repeat.
It's the batter responsibility to know where that line is.... Stop whining.
If this is "to be used for teaching purposes only" and you "do not own the rights to this video or audio" why do is it monetized?
No she's out she ran at the ball out of the batters box
Who teaches these girls how to hit...this isn't Happy gilmore, set your feet and take a proper swing and coaches should teach hitting fundamentals not gimmicks.
she was out of the box but you cant see the box
1:13 But it looks like she didn't step out of the box until after she hit the ball. Her left foot was inside and she first stepped outside with her right foot after she hit the ball
The pitchers foot wasent even on the mound
the ump was right she ran out and then hit the ball
yea I'm with the ump I've played baseball and in baseball the same rules aply and she cannot do that you cannot run in front of the plate
Ok, I'm seeing some comment saying "Her foot was in front of home plate, so she's out." For starters, the batters box extends behind the plate AND even more in front of the plate. Her front foot stayed within what I would judge as the lines of the box. However, her back foot comes out, but after she makes contact with the ball. A fair call would be foul not out, especially since you can't see distinct lines for the batters box.
She was out the box
This happened to my brother 2 years ago, I was behind the plate, not catching, but I couldn't understand what the ump was talking about....
Oh that's easy she is out of the box look at her left foot and see it lined up with the plate.. at least five inches out the box.... What a fart!!😂😂😜😜
College softball still seems slow paced like a kids coach pitch game
She was out of the box
Why is she running to make a swing in the first place? Not trying to offend anyone just wanna know. I've never saw this when I played
Wow their pitcher threw more than 151 pitches
When the was hit half way down to third her foot was out
no she's not out I did that I was still in the box
that's how you play
Put this in slo-mo (0.25 speed). Watch carefully. Not only will you see her plant her left foot inside the apparent line, you can see her foot mark ALSO inside the line after she leaves the batter's box. Bad call.
Good call u HAVE to be in the box
suck it up thats what happens when you dont follow the rules you dont just break a rule and let it slide
Like every softball player does that
How ichiro does thay
her left foot was still in the box and right foot was up in the air. perfect foot work just like a receiver keeping both feet in bounds on a pass. either way it was so close that it shouldn't have been called. that kind of call is only for indisputable obvious evidence that she was out of the box. watch the replay from all the angles in this video.
Was she out of the box?
Anyway who runs when they swing!