Look Back Rule... Out!
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- The 100-degree heat quickly pushed me to my limit. I am not proud of my lack of patience in this situation. I was amazed that the coaching staff had completely missed the fundamentals of the softball specific Look-Back Rule. I should have been more patient. I should have listened more. I was stunned that I was even having to explain the rule fundamentals in a 16U State Qualifier tournament. I was sure that there must have been something I was missing. It turns out that after reviewing the video, the play happened exactly as I thought... Wow! - For a minute or two during the discussion with the coach, I thought I was either being "Punked" or temporarily transported to the "Twilight Zone". What I learned is that I need to work on keeping my patience when the heat of the sun is baking down upon my shoulders. Make it a great game! Michael Leavitt - Orem, Utah
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You know when you hear “hey Larry!” You already loss haha
Cuz Larry's the man!
i'm gonna sub to you for that
@@mr.rawbuttereater4253 liar you got my hopes up
@@evan1788 wdym i subbed
I did not know that, but i did somehow after you said "hey larry.".
This ump knows his stuff. And he’s pretty calm.
Like how he explains it
@Katie Bohan Facts
3rd base coach. Hot
He’s a smug asshole at the start
@@user-dw4lj8ox7p not really, he knows that he’ll have to deal with her crap because she made the wrong call.
Woman: "Let me finish"
Ump starts to explain his side after letting her finish: Gets interrupted by woman immediately
Typical Karen
@@cloudidn typical woman argument tactics tbh
Larry was the real MVP
@@grahamers I hope you stand against the widely used term “mansplaining.” Seeing how you’re all concerned with social justice
@@grahamers stfu
Unfortunately that woman probably spent more time telling her team they were cheated rather than get educated and educate her team
I mean I doubt she explicitly told the players that. But the players still got that impression nonetheless watching her argue with the ump. She needs to realize that she is a role model to the players. If she argues with the ump over some rule then she is teaching the players to constantly question the ump. When she should realize she screwed up, take responsibility, and show the players how to be courteous and professional.
@@Jomskylark in my town the couches are more concerned with ensuring their kids have a starring position than teaching sportsmanship.
@@swskitso How about the recliners and easy-chairs? 😜😄😁
@@rufusjohnson3800 they just sit at home in front of the tv
The issue is she knew the rule. Has exploited the rule for probably years. And this is the first she has probably encountered someone who enforced the rule correctly.the runner literally stood on 2 for 8 seconds.
No, you are incorrect. Having had my daughter play against that coach, and picked up for that coach, in front of Mike and in front of Larry, your assumption is not based in reality.
@@gmerrill5362 your argument format comes from a fallacy position. Actually multiple fallacy positions. Please refrain from disputing my comment until you are actually able to prove I’m wrong.
Logical fallacy troll.
We get it, brü. You totally aced PHI 2101 freshman year.
@@adamwittman982 Please limit your comments to facts and you won't be corrected. How you come to the conclusion of "years of actions" based off of one video, and this is the first time they "encountered" someone to enforce the rule, is pure fiction. That you get offended on being corrected, is not something I am getting paid to correct. So please provide some sort of supporting evidence to your comments, other than hurt feelings, because I can.
You are assuming. It's so clearly a look back call. She is grasping for straws that 's for sure. But, rather she has been doing this for a long time is an unknown factor.
He shouldn't be allowed to umpire another game for being so gosh darned nice.
Yeah. What is this world coming to with coaches that nice? He's got some nerve doing that. (Being sarcastic in case you don't see it.)
Hey, you watch your mouth, nBrix!
Out here spewing all that hate and vulgarity. Makes me so upset. Gee willikers! 😀
It's a lot simpler just to ask the coach are we arguing judgement calls and run back to the A position..Done
“Alright - cool!” After he was proven to be right. 😂
Imagine MLB with mormon umps
Third base coach is just pissed her ass got caught telling her players how to cheat. Bad coach is bad
I'm a baseball player and am totally confused, why does it matter if she's in a circle?
@@worldgggggg well I guess the “circle” is like thou mound
@@monke6074 right but I don't understand why can't she steal 3rd? Can you not steal in softball?
@@worldgggggg see I’m confused on that two cuz I mean in my opinion that’s a delayed steal
@@monke6074 facks you ask me it's the 3rd basemens fault for not paying attention and leaving her bag
Larry David knows a lot about softball.
It’s one of the most basic rules. If everyone could do it the sport would be ruined.
😂
Hes prettay, prettay, prettay, prettay knowledgable.
Can't unhear it
I called my daughter out on the look back rule, she didn't talk to me for 3 days. I often refer to it as the hotdog rule!
Sandlot?
Ha! This may be obvious and zooming over my head, but I have to hear the reasoning behind the terminology "hotdog". 😀
it’s been 3 months where’s the hot dog rule explanation?
Bump, hotdog?
So where does "hotdog rule" come from.
Love that the coach came back and admitted he was wrong.... props to him
The idea that he wasn't arguing and apologized for the women who couldn't accept she was wrong.
Karen is out combing her cat
Right. That was awesome to see. You definitely don't see that too often anymore!
More like the actual head coach (the female 3rd base coach) couldn’t get herself to apologize on her own so she sent an assistant to do it
It takes a big person to admit when they're wrong
I have no stake in softball but this guys voice hooked me. I just want to hear him tell interesting stories at a BBQ. Solid story telling delivery voice.
Didn’t even think about that but yeah
Good ol boy
@Obsidian Buddah but doesn’t Seinfeld owe his success to his story telling abilities? Scooby Doo just likes snacks.
Bro there are certain voices I can listen to when telling a story and he’s one of them
LMAO I say the same thing
Ayyyy LARRY!!!!
LARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@kodyclick3260 love impractical jokers
Get LARRY over here!
Oh boy I hope all the jokes remain practical
Weird seeing you here finn lol
I love when he said, " okay, I'll hear you then we'll see if we're in harmony." Such a peacemaker.
My favorite part was when he taught the coach had to exploit the rule in the future 😂
I feel like this dude is 8 feet taller than everybody.
Lmao my first thoughts while watching the vid were "Why is everyone so short?"
Then it dawned on me.
Dude must be like 6'8 + 😲
His camera is on top of his head.
@@adambward1 I believe he is truly 6'7".
Umpire acted like a umpire should. He didn't start with arguing with the coach. He spoke to the coach in a respectful manner, I have seen a lot of umpires act like a ass because they thought they were right.
Someone in one the comments above called him a smug asshole. A smug asshole would have thrown the third base coach out of the game for arguing.
I would have been slightly more firm in dealing with her. Explain the rule once, if she objects, ask if she wants to protest. It is a ball game, not a rules clinic - keep the flow going. I would have offered/sought the UIC's opinion only if my partner disagreed with me.
@@mlane6656 Knowing that this is a "tournament" in a higher class level, I don't think I would have explained the rule in much detail, I would call the out, discuss with my partner, then re-affirm the out. The coaching staff can read the rule book for the rest of the game or after the game. Game time is not a rules clinic...I'm in total agreement.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I HAD AN UMPIRE WHO KEPT YELLING AT OUR CATCHER FOR NO REASON AND MY COACH CALLED HIM OUT, THEN MY COACH GOT EJECTED. (the ump was wrong btw)
@@papa_silky was it the same umpire?
Guy: explains what the look back rule is
Coach: says the girl did exactly what he just said she can’t do.
Also coach: LIVE BALL
I love the “Lets call the URC over. HEY! LARRY!”😂😂😂
UIC
I wish I had your level of calm, dealing with coaches who dont know the rules. Great job!
Calm? Lol.
@@TrendingNews4You Ya calm because most umpires don't put up with shit and have quick triggers for ejections
@@austinperkins8586 wouldn’t say that’s calm. In Comparison to what you’re talking about yeah maybe but. I wouldn’t use that word.
@@TrendingNews4You I’m not sure why you wouldn’t call that calm. That is one of the most calm, cool, and collected umpires I have ever witnessed.
@@matthewcody6250 too much talking....the less the better. He was making the very clear point that either he is very dumb or the coach doesn’t know what she’s talking about at all. That’s the persona he was giving off. He was hyped up. If calm is not angry/frustrated...then I guess he was calm....but not my universal def.
I was on pins and needles to learn Larry's opinion.
Aaaaay larrry
The fact the coach is trying to argue something even she knows is wrong is sad.
So typical of people these days!!
Thats how baseball and softball is. Every coach argues everything. How many times you seen big leagers argue?
She signaled the runner to come to 3rd and didn't want to admit her bad call
Coaches assuming the ump is wrong are so frustrating. Fine to initially question, but after he refutes her, just move on. It's like the coaches never consider the possibility that maybe they or the player screwed up. The coach is just teaching her players to question the ump and assume fault instead of taking responsibility.
It’s part of the sport, win by any means..
"Well i see their point"
That other ump was lowkey simping for that coach
Or he just don’t know the rules l
He’s wanted to tap into it for quite a while now.
If my runner doesnt top then she fine
She sstopped on the bag
Exactly!
This coach....
I love that the umpire even explained a partial loophole to the rule. Cause he's right he's like "baseball vs softball mentality"
That’s a definition of a Karen. She knew she was wrong. I bet she has been doing that for years and no one has called her on it until that day.
I don't think she knows the rules...
That's far from a Karen. All parties handled this well
@@Stryyder1 When you listen to the convo with the other coach. They even say "That's not how other call it, but you are right"
KAREN!!
I can't believe the first Karen comment was so late in the comments.
Coach Karen: If my runner would've stopped that's a look back rule
Ump: She stopped at second base
Coach Karen: Exactly!
IKR
You are allowed to stop once and then decide if you want to continue running to the next base or retreat to the previous base. But the lookback rule only applies to runners BETWEEN bases. It absolutely does not apply here. This was a rules violation but that wasn't the rule violated. The rule that was actually violated is the rule regarding stealing bases. She had clearly occupied 2B and the pitcher had gotten the ball back and entered the circle preparing for the next pitch. The runner then attempted to steal 3B, but you can't leave the previous base until the pitcher has released the ball on a pitch.
@@Rowgue51 Wrong. This is absolutely a Look Back Rule violation: 8-7-T-3(b): Once a runner stops at a base for any reason, the runner will be declared out if leaving the base.
What a stand-up guy. Your calm demeanor is one thing. Carrying through to that teaching moment at the end is really something. Thanks for bringing positive energy into the world!
If the girl rounded the bag, the rule doesn’t take effect. She didn’t round the bag bc the ball was in a defender’s glove right next to her.
true but technically if she had stepped off as soon as the defender threw the ball and before the pitcher caught it then shed be in fair play to run according to the rule. thats how they can exploit the rule.
@@ah7027 Which is exactly what the ump was explaining to the other coach at the end of the video
@@ah7027 what kind of goofy rules does softball have?
Sounds like the Patriarchy putting limits on girls' aggressiveness in sports ... like not allowing helmets and pads in women's lacrosse or not allowing checking in women's hockey or why hair ribbons and eye shadow are allowed in women's gymnastics. How is this not a slap in the face of Title IX ideals of equity in athletics?
@@frbyrd-tg5co seems like more of you problem, the patriarchy has better things to do then watch women beat themselves in a contact sport
He didn’t budge even when his fellow ump said “I see there point.”
Their*
You were WAY more patient than you needed to be. The coach is trying to play you. You were 100% right. You've had your say coach. The runner is out. Let's move on.
Some of the worst abuse comes from people who don’t know the rules or what it takes to ref a game. A coach like that will have a whole sideline turning against you. 25 years of experience and you think it’s my first day on the job. I have had the pleasure of working with FIFA refs staying fit and working youth games. They are paid very well to do this. Literal World Cup referees and the parents are complaining. 😂
At 1:46 Michael says "She stopped at 2nd base" coach responds '"exactly".
Yeah I was confused as to what her argument was supposed to be. She didn't even realize everything she was saying was only proving the call to be correct.
Probably one of the best umps I’ve ever seen. He’s literally trying to teach the kids and the coaches.
I'm very happy to see the coach actually come through and acknowledge he was wrong, but also turned it into a learning experience in order to better understand the rule.
She tried to cheat and has probably been getting away with it.
Totally you hear her say also pitcher not paying attention. Sad that coaches won't let them play.
That’s just a coach not knowing the rules and that’s the pathetic part in dealing with uneducated coaches
@@stansmith3509 That's because she assumed it was dead ball. If you're used to it being dead ball when you're in the circle why would have to worry about somebody stealing? If the runner was off the bag before pitcher got it then that would have been a different story.
"Am I in a Time Warp here"??? Thank you for this I needed a good laugh. I've done it many times where the call is an absolute no-brainer but because someone's arguing so strongly I wonder if I suffered a concussion or something. Great Job!
I was umpiring my ten year old sons house league softball game some time ago. It was the type of game where all the parents sit in their lawn chairs along the baselines. I called a dead ball when the ball was overthrown and the first baseman ended up searching for the ball amongst the parents scrambling with their chairs. Both coaches argued with me asking me why the ball was dead. My response was too embarrassing to mention it here. 'C'est la Vie'.
Every year this video comes up in my feed ... and I still cant believe the coach. Great job Michael!!
WOW holy shit, an ump who didn't blow things outta proportion and run a coach over nothing. He calmly explained the call, got verification and moved on. Why can't youth baseball umps be like this guy?
Or umps in general.
Please do not say that phrase after “wow”
why can't more coaches know the basic rules.... or be able to carry on a reasonable, respectful conversation...??? and don't EVEN get me started on the "well, what if..." line of reasoning...
Luckily Larry was there to set the coach correct looks to me she wasn't hearing anything until Larry got involved
And she was even walking away, or about to walk away before Larry even finished his explanation.
Once "I wanna speak to your manager" fails to get Karen what she wants, she has no other recourse....
Larry said the girl was between 1st and 2nd so she can't advance to 3rd. They say no she was already at 2nd and he says oh well then she is still out cuz my buddy said so. Im not saying whos is right, just saying he seemed like his explanation changed to fit the narrative of the ump. Seems like the girl should be out, bad attempt at an explanation by Larry.
im sure Larry is good at his job, poor job here, though.
@@craven4bmore709 did you watch the same video?
He knew sienfeld was umping games
What is the deal with look back rules?
@@kylen6430 lol. I have no idea man.
@Mike Sixx it was a Seinfeld joke brah
6:20 "If you don't know the fundamental, you can't exploit it." Basically called them out for cheating. I like it!
I've never even heard a Coach argue this. My 10 year old knows this rule.
People haven’t changed since I was a coach and an umpire. They didn’t know the rules back then. They don’t know the rules now. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ and it’s always someone like urself that has to educate them on how to interpret the rules even though EVERYONE is given the same paperwork. Thanks for sharing
Many of the umpires don’t know the rules either.
@@jasonperry1719 ur right because the home plate ump had no clue
In a situation like that, why can't that coach just apologize to the umpire that she was wrong? My guess is pride.
Did you watch to the end. I know it wasn't the same coach. But same team.
Seldom have I ever had a coach apologize for not knowing the rules. Normally, you get, "I am going to call the UIC because you are wrong". I believe that ALL coaches in ALL sports should take a rules exam.
my guess is Karen
Would love to see more rule breakdowns like this!
😊😊😊😊 this is the nicest I've ever heard of and you just made me smile how kind he wasn't considerate and just was very straight thorough about teaching
This is awesome, I've seen you wear your camera on so many games. This is just cool for you to do this to teach others as well. Thank you. Love it
It continually amazes me that coaches at that level don't know or understand basic rules.
I once read the autobiography of Ron Luciano, who was an MLB umpire in the 1970's. He said he was constantly amazed how managers, coaches, and players, even on that level were ignorant of the rules.
Eh. It is hard. I can’t speak to this specifically because I don’t know softball. But for example in football: the exact same penalty (defensive pass interference) has very different meanings and yardage penalties at different levels of football.
In the NFL it’s from the spot of the foul. Could be a 60 yard penalty. In high school ball, it’s a 15 yard penalty regardless. And what constitutes defensive pass interference vs defensive holding is different at each level, etc.
There are 1000 other examples of this, even down to what is and isn’t a catch. If you watch football on Saturdays and Sundays, and maybe even know all the rules like the back of your hand for each of those levels, you still have to memorize the 200 page high school rule book and the differences.
At that level? Kids playing in front of zero spectators, not much expected from the coaches or players.
She knew the rule. She was just trying to make him think he was wrong.
Trust me, as a baseball ump who usually umpires little league i have coaches who don't understand the slide rules and bat throwing
This is the most interesting softball has ever been for me.
no one gonna mention they're playing magic stick by 50 cent for these little girls?
They ain’t little he just tall😂
Old people probably think that's a softball reference.
You can here the last part of this clearly :D LMAO
(I got the magic clit)
Lil' Kim not a whore
But I sex a nigga so good, he gotta tell his boys
When it, come to sex don't test my skills
'Cause my head game have you HEAD over heels
This is the comment I was looking for. What in the actuality is happening with that song choice??
Welcome to modern sports. I coach at the middle school and high school levels and this kind of garbage seems to be all they listen to. Even in the schools. I've been to gym/weight lifting classes where this kind of stuff is being played for the kids BY THE TEACHERS. I have to go out of my way when letting the kids make a playlist to say that if they try to slip these kinds of songs in (even "edited"... as if that really helps) there will be no music. I HATE COACHES who let this happen, because I assure you there is at least one girl on the team that hates it and it makes them uncomfortable but they don't want to say anything.
If my partner told me that he can see their point where they can hear him, I'm having a Dutch uncle conversation with him after the game.
no kidding, i'd be more upset about that than anything else here
After the game my ass, we're having the conversation right then and there.
you never contradict a blue brother during a game within earshot of a coach - he forgot to charge the team one of its time outs for delay of game - don’t forget to use big words they don’t understand like, “I, am, the,” and “umpire”.
Great job... most important lesson... play by the rules! Enjoy your sport! Have fun! If the rules aren't followed... NO ONE HAS FUN... EVEN IF YOU WIN! Cheating steals more than just fun... it steals integrity and self worth 😩 (for those with values).
I'm new to umpiring softball, and I cannot describe how helpful this video is. Great stuff, man.
I appreciate that they can argue without yelling at each other. We need more of this in society
I've been in this situation many times when making a call. This is one of the basic rules of softball and yet, the coach has no clue! I also was a bit taken back by the plate umpire initially stating he saw something different. It's never good when they person you're calling a game with casts some doubt on a disputed call!
I just started playing softball! In Germany it's not as common as in the US (like you don't play it at school etc). And videos like this help me a lot to understand all the rules! Thank you for uploading and being so calm and friendly while explaining 😍
great clip. awesome explanation of the rule... calm and clear
What a great umpire, explaining the calmly and then explain's to the coach, once you get a handle on this rule you will know how to exploit it.
That's a great umpire !
Love how she doesn't want to be interrupted or not listened to. But when Larry is talking she starts walking away.
"I should have been more patient. I should have listened more." Seriously?
Let’s blue!!!! That was awesome umping and to further use the opt to help out new softball coaches. Good stuff!!!
thanks for the video....i watched this to help me with the look back rule prior to my first softball tournament as an umpire
The running is out. She came to a “stop” at second. Pitcher has put herself in the circle with the ball. LBR runner is out!
Thanks. I think that was figured out in the video.
The coach is bush league with that move. She didn’t think the umpire would catch it.
You are spot on. It’s always been in the circle it’s “time”.
I just found this channel and I'm in love
Karen: “she dropped the ball” blue: shoulda said lets check the footage
More amazed that the PU wasn't watching while you went to your position. And he agreed with the coach for a moment!
why do you think PU should be focusing on the runner? he has the pitcher and upcoming batter to focus his attention on.
1. Umpire was very calm and didnt let any anger get out of him huge props to that
2. You know your stuff extremly well good job
3. You went to your plate umpire and Larry to make sure you werent screwing up.
Overall amazing job. I thought this play was something like missing the bag where the team had to appeal but maybe not either way great job, you taught me something for when I was umpiring as well
great communication and professionalism.
What a great umpire. To her credit when the coach was explained how she was clearly wrong, she didn't flip out.
Thank you for saying it wasn't a great call - it was the right call
Great job Ump and way to maintian your attitude and composure.
I really admired the umpires calm demeanor and the way he explained himself
its sad that this coach is coaching with no knowledge at all. Good job for correct her you are absolutely correct. You cannot leave the base when you have already stopped while the pitcher is in the circle
That woman "coach" should be banned. No place for POS's like her around children.
Gotta love coaches that don’t know the rules and will argue. Props to the coach who admitted they were wrong! That is the sign of a good coach. They are willing to learn as well.
Good coach? Know the rules before you start arguing so it doesn't make you look like an idiot. As another coach on the team, I would be embarrassed to have someone arguing that call. Makes our team look bad.
@@keefersmotherland1308 don’t be arrogant. Every sport has their weird rules that are hard to interpret. No coach will know every single rule perfectly especially when rules change. The coach that admitted they were wrong is a good coach because not only does he acknowledge he was wrong, he models to his kids what you do when you are wrong. If you don’t see the value in that, don’t know what to tell you. I’ve seen coaches at pro levels getting millions to coach get rules wrong. It’s human nature.
@@TheJcperla This rule has been around for a while now (multiple years), and the female coach clearly didn't know it well enough to argue. Then she started changing the story to defend herself. The male coach probably didn't know it either but its their responsibility (both of them) to know it and understand it so they can then teach it to their players. If they didn't understand it they could go to their organization to get clarification. Michael explained it to the male coach and said it near the end of the video, "Once you guys get this, your going to exploit that and get really aggressive". As for the coaches at pro levels, its their job to know the rules. They have league officials they can contact to discuss the rules and its interpretation. That's not human nature being uninformed, its laziness.
@@keefersmotherland1308 lol. Human nature is to not be perfect and make mistakes. Well you go on with your arrogant self and be the perfect coach. I wasn’t specifically referring to that rule but rules in general. I don’t disagree the responsibility portion, everyone knows that, but the job always has its challenges. Ever see player and coaches makes mistakes before when it comes to rules? guess they are just lazy, because it’s their responsibility to know? Just curious how much do you make as the perfect coach? I am sure you must be really sought after!
@@TheJcperla I volunteer coach, I officiate games, and I am a parent. I'm not perfect but I have the sense to read the rulebook before arguing with an official. And if I have questions there are always people willing to help so we understand it. Young players only know as much as the coach teaches them, and if the coach isn't going to do the work, you have uninformed players making it to the big leagues not understanding the rules. I don't do it for the money, and wouldn't do any of it if I didn't love the game.
fascinating channel, and half of it is simply b/c of you sir? you have honed your "people skills"... and you teach players and couches with your tough love take on the game. good man! interesting stuff.
I don't know why this is in my feed and I do not care about softball but I watched this all the way to the end. This was awesome.
When the focus of your coaching is deceit and trickery.
stfu, she just didn't know the rules
She most likely knew the rules, and was just used to getting away with cheating.
Likely not: the home plate ump wasn't even sure about it. And I've always hated that rule, even before they had the circle, the pitcher had to be touching the plate which gave me some leeway as a runner, but that circle is just beyond ridiculous, catering to all the fat beer bellies who don't want to drop all the way down to slow pitch. It has no place in youth sports. Hockey got rid of the two line pass, soft ball needs to get rid of this.
@@wilfdarr "Well yeah, you know, a lot of umps, they just don't know that rule." - Head Coach of offending team, at the end of video, after the game
Interpret that how you like, but it's pretty obvious what he was implying...
...then your organization is referred to as the Houston Astros.
Just another reason I can’t stand softball. After coaching my son for about 6 years in baseball I tried coaching softball for my daughter. The rules made me lose my mind!
Letting 8 year old girls pitch is a joke. Ruin the experience for an entire team so 1 or 2 girls at the most can learn how to pitch. Nobody got a hit because only a rare strike ever crossed the plate.
Why wouldn’t they just reduce the space of the bags? So they don’t have to throw as far.
@@verticalsorh7124 safety. That also puts the pitcher closer to a batted ball. My suggestion for that age would be a pitching machine or a coach pitching to contact.
(Coaches pitching to their own team for the purpose of putting balls in play and allowing kids to learn the game)
spaceracer23 makes sense. I remember growing up playing baseball we would play “coach pitch” up until around 5th grade.
That ref. Is amazing how he kept his cool
Wow- handled like a professional! It's a shame that so much time was eaten up for this, but that was a very diplomatic way of handling the situation with that coach.
Is this umpire also the Cart Narc? Sounds just like him.
Here is the rule…
What is the “look back” rule?
The look-back rule is triggered when the pitcher has control of the ball in the pitcher's circle and is not attempting to make a play on a runner (including a fake or threatened throw); any runner stopped on a base must stay on the base, and any runner not on a base must immediately either advance toward the next base or return to the previous base. Any subsequent change in direction or stop by the runner while off the base will result in the runner being called out, so long as the pitcher does not attempt to make a play.
The 3rd base coaches point is that she actually left the bag before the pitcher was in the circle. Its exploiting the spirit of the rule.
@@JarthenGreenmeadow but the runner was clearly still standing on second base when the pitcher had the ball in the circle
In this case the pitcher did attempt to make a play by throwing the ball to third base?
Stupid rule.
@@sonnybowman No, the ball was dead immediately as soon as the runner left 2B.
Great knowledge and composure blue
Very well handled. Nobody got testy, and everybody remained calm. You got double confirmation to satisfy everyone. Good on you for explaining that it can be exploited for more aggressive play in the future. Well done checking in with the coach to see that everyone was on the same page and understood what just happened.
I understand why, but why did the ump have to get double confirmation on the rule? That was the most obvious look back rule violation that I've witnessed. For the 3rd base coach to deliberately cheat and then questions the umps decision and knowledge of the rule is just low class.
I know Larry he's a great Umpire. We worked football together as well. He's probably the best girls Umpire in the State of Utah.
Off topic but in high school we played kick ball first day of P.E. and the teacher happened to be the softball coach. I came around third headed home and she was standing in front of home plate as the catcher, trying to get me out at home. I had no choice I dropped my shoulder, crossed home plate, helped the teacher up, and next time I headed home she moved outta my way.
Fucking legend.
Equality :)
Good call and very professional.
Your patience and demeanor are commendable. You handled things very well. What a novel idea- the ump wearing a camera so we can look at things from that perspective. _ Genius !
If coaches could argue like this in the MLB, games would last 12 hours
And we thought replay slowed the game down. Imagine if we had to wait on "LARRY" as well
Lol yeah imagine that...
"Oh no? Well let's ask Rob then. Hey Rob! Come here!"
*MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred's private helicopter touches down in center field*
"What's the problem here, fellas?"
This is the first time Coach Karen couldn't intimidate and bully to get her way. So disrespectful in her response.
You didn’t understand that fundamental, but when you do and exploit it.... awesome. Hope the coach understands.
Good ump and great explanation
I was just waiting for the coach to ask the Ump to speak to their manager.
The coach wasn't the only one that didn't know the rule. The ump behind the plate didn't understand it either.
I find in Girls youth softball umpires are sometimes forgiving and will use it as a teaching moment and send the runner back for the first time as if it was a dead ball. Not that I agree with it. Learn faster if you get the out.
Their is no better feeling, than the feeling of knowing g your right!
That was the most pleasant umpire I’ve ever seen explain his case for his car. Great job blue.
I umpired for decades and really can’t figure out why the coach argued this call. Absolutely excellent call by the base umpire. Great call and great game management with the coach.
She argued it because she's probably been getting away with it for years and was trying to gaslight the ump into letting her have her way. She knows the rule.
@@Kune35 The player was standing on 2nd for 5 seconds while the ball was in the circle. Sadly, the plate umpire talking about the pitcher being on the rubber just confuses the situation for the base umpire who was 100% right!
@@CraigQuebec You need to ask yourself why the circle around the pitchers rubber is required.
I was waiting for her to say "But in baseball....."
Well played blue - i learned something new myself
Great job! I wish sports were full of officials this calm.