Love the insights from Stak and Matt. Sometimes as a fan, you forgot that the players go through the same thing like us, it’s just that they made more money.
Firash Adryan Well people forget because they are dumb. These people have far more to deal with than most if us do. The money doesnt change shit. Dead sure 99% of these people would give all their money their mothers life. Athletes arent elites. Most of them came from a humble background like most of us.
He thinks he better than everyone This is what happens when everyone thinks just because u from the hood u realer/more correct than everyone else On gang gang slatt shit
@@sethdoty516 I'm a lebron fan so your kinda right even though Bron won in 2016 with Cleveland & kwahi got the last laugh on them & now they probably will never make the playoffs again
He was at the end of the road and was a rebound or ginobili free throw away from a ring. His whole post Houston career was weird. Was like the Monstars took over his body.
Turk he played through injuries he never should have and never took care of his body on like a Kobe level. And I to this day am a much bigger fan of tmac.
I remember that Western finals game in Dallas. Spurs was getting beat down, then all of a sudden Jackson and Kerr saved the day. Kerr was a cold blooded killer sniper that game. 👴
Respect to Jack for seeing/appreciating where Pop was meaning to come from, even though it wasn’t right on his part. That’s a bitter thing to be let go from doing what you love to do, no matter what it is, but it takes a big person to still speak highly on the person who did it, like he does about Pop.
Seriously, dude acts like he was something other than a dude who got inefficient buckets his whole career. There was a reason Popovich wasn’t playing his ass.
I remember Stephen having monster games against the Lakers his first time around in San Antonio. Always wished Jack would have played on the Lakers with Kobe.
They didn’t need a defender. They had Duncan, kawhi and Danny green and Ginobli who were all great defenders. That’s why they got tmac. He was always a better scorer then stak. It wasn’t that stak was bad he just wasn’t the fit for the system.
Pop said it in a long speech for FIBA. He doesnt care if you're good if you're an asshole. He takes character over skill and thats why this team won a title every 4 years for decades.
@@elmztana1201 They nearly won the next year (up 25 on the road against Warriors until Zaza ended everything.. and dont tell me it was just an one time thing. Kawhi was beating the shit out of the Warriors during every regular season game too that year) After that came his injury and trade. They tried to reload for one season but gave up after seeing that DeFrozen and Alfridge cant do it. Now they're in full rebuild mode.. and doing an amazing job so far. Look at their roster right now. Oldest player that will play a big role on this team is Derrick White. Dejounte Murray, Devin Vassell, White, Lonnie, Keldon Johnson.. and you also have some real raw talent like Luka Samanic and Primo. But yeah.. you probably dont even know who these people are lol casual YT-fans.
Stak said he wouldn't say it and that they would have to prove it. Pop obviously did not feel confident enough in those guys to set up 1s. Danny Green definitely would have lost, he can't faceup dribble under pressure
Stephen Jackson: "I aint play in another NBA team since then [release from 2013 Spurs]" Matt Barnes (inside): "Weren't we teammates on the Clippers in the following season?"
@Arturo_23NL Teams do it as need be to get to the playoffs or try to strengthen the team as they see fit, but there is a way to time it before the deadline so that Jack could have gone on to a team that could perhaps make a run at the playoffs, Lakers did that this year with Troy Daniels and he ended up joining the playoff contending Nuggets.
The BEST basketball podcast - All the smoke - no chill Gil - knuckleheads - The tuff juice - pull up with CJ McCollum - the JJ redick - winging it with Vince - Inside the green room - Road trippin - certified buckets I don’t listen to the media people like Bill Simmons, Brian Windhorst or max Kellerman. I can’t listen to u if u never played the game.
Bill Simmons is knowledgeable and credible. It’s ignorant to think that u can’t speak on the game if u weren’t a pro. Some of those guys have studied and watched the game at the highest level for decades and have nearly as much knowledge as any player. Players can only give u one side of the spectrum. This game is more than just on court play. This is a culture filled with real voices worth a listen. Open ur mind.
CPGoat #3 STOP IT. How could you listen to someone who’s never stepped on the court? How could you listen to someone who doesn’t know what it takes be an elite ATHLETE. Nah I’m good I don’t listen to that bullshit
Both S-Jack & T-Mac were past their primes at that point, but T-Mac had more upside. S-Jack also admitted he needed more minutes to get into the flow of the game...but he wasn't going to get more minutes with those other guys in the rotation, so T-Mac would definitely fit better with only 3-5 minute bursts on the floor.
@@big10 ... exactly right ... & it was a good decision also giving more minutes to a young kawhi & a prime danny green cuz they are a big help beating the miami heat the next year & made lebron 3-6 blames realized that san antonio is his daddy ......... 😂🤣😂- 😭😭😭😭😭😭 ...
The more I think about it the more I realize that Timmy is the main reason the Spurs were successful. he was the connective tissue between the players and the organization.
You got that right. The Spurs were a mess before he got there & now that he's not playing anymore, they're back to being that mess that they were 23 years ago.
I feel the same way. Don't let the outside nerdy appearance and his voice fool you, Duncan was a dog. He recognized that in Stak and that's why they got along.
Cesar Canete they weren’t a mess before Duncan, they had like 4 seasons where they missed the playoffs before Duncan. And even now the issue is kawhis departure. We were contenders still when Duncan retired
@@ztlabraptor211 I guess you're right. It's really crazy & disheartening to see the Spurs back to being a lottery team after 22 years of consistently being a championship contender at best & lower seed playoff team at worst. The Spurs haven't missed a playoffs since Duncan got there & this season looks like it'll be the 1st time since then. I guess maybe it has a whole to do w/ how they did Kawhi wrong & this is them paying their kharmatic debt.
Cesar Canete they didn’t do Kawhi wrong. They let him sit for half a year without question, cleared him to play, and then he sat after 9 games with a separate issue in his shoulder and ran away to New York while the team played in the playoffs without his presence. Not only was Kawhi in the wrong for that situation, but Kawhi himself has said that he just wanted to go home to LA, hence why he asked for a trade there and left Toronto to go there
Hard not to like you Stak but gotta check you. It's called coaching, when you're number is called on you're expected to perform.....period! While there are some cases in which coaches will deliberately "hurt" their players but Coach Pop doesn't strike me as one. He clearly liked you Stak I just think he found it difficult to coach you. Shout out to Matt, true G! Madd love
There wasn’t going to be anything that saved the Spurs during the end of that Game 6 with Duncan on the bench. LeBron went crazy in the fourth quarter. 16 points. The biggest mistake Pop made with all due respect to Stephen was taking Duncan out of the game. He would’ve gotten that rebound or at least made it tough for Bosh to get it. And Stephen wouldn’t have stopped Ray from knocking that shot down.
Andre Ricardo Bryant Jack, Kawhi and Manu were all 80-83% free throw shooters. I doubt that he would’ve had more calmness at the line than Ginobili. Ginobili was a big time clutch player in his career. He just missed. It happens. Duncan missed point blank shots at the rim that game too. Sometimes weird things happen in games.
@Andre Ricardo Bryant Manu also had really bad turnovers that game too. Everyone remembers the last two mins, but not the key moments of the game/series. Manu played like shit
Yeah I doubt Stephen would have done anything to help win in those moments. The way things just played out it was destined to happen. All those misses from various players that normally make it go in easy just missed. He wasn’t stopping that Ray Allen 3 that thing was too wet, he just too into his feelings when in comes to Ray.
As a spurs fan born in ‘96 I was spoiled with greatness throughout my childhood…so many memories with friends and family attending/watching games. Now that I’m older I just appreciate it even more. Hopefully we can build around Wemby and capture another title in the near future. As for Stak, he was a baller in his own right. Coach Pop is just a tough coach and I’m sure Stak would say Coach Pop made him a batter player and person overall. 2013 had a devastating ending but 2014 was the sweetest revenge tour of all time…. Thank you Stak for the peek behind the curtain…all love🙏
I wish Chicago Bulls would would sign Stephen Jackson we need that toughness on the team but after they get rid of the front office and get a better coach
@Edgar Alvarez well thelast few years would have been fine if Kawhi didn't want to leave. Can you imagine the Spurs making a perfect translation into the Kawhi era right after Tim retired?
I’m a big fan of Pop Tim and Spurs culture but I was elated when we got Cap Jack, I loved his game and I thought he was an important piece on the Spurs that “dog” kinda player like the KG on his later Boston years and Udonis Haslem on the Miami Shaq Wade days. He was also so much better than Tmac on his last legs. Underrated asF.
Ant Arnold but he ain't no Ray Allen or Tony Parker, these guys certified HOFs and props to Jack for being confident in himself but he's not better than those guys
Jeffrey Kim bull crap. I’m still waiting on his “damn good reason” for taking tim Duncan out the game in game 6 vs Miami that allowed Ray Allen to his that shot.
@@raphaeljoseph6952 Washington at least let IT do his thing. The team lacked defenders to counter his lack of defense, because he was really bad on that end. I'm kind of surprised Philly didn't pick him up though
Vinicius Goulart If you watched the game 6 3’s Jackson shot, it was him that closed the championship. And before then, the Spurs were struggling to get a lead. We know he went away and became an all-star. But if he would have stayed, he would have his Jersey retired. And he won a ring with the spurs .I wish he would have played more in San Antonio. I know it is a bit much, but San Antonio loves Stephen Jackson.
omar arreola nah man he had a good run but 1 run doesn’t equal a retirement. Hell im pretty sure Kawhi ain’t gonna get his jersey retired here too and he’s waaaaaaay more accomplished
I remember this. Given how ginobili played in the finals that year, had they had Jack on the team I'd like to think the outcome would have been different. Always been a player you can count on in crunch time. Loves to compete too. I didn't understand why they let him go. He definitely would have made a difference in that finals.
Captain Jack is my man. I trust Pop decisions but I wish he would have kept Captn Jack. They butted heads alot. I would have loved to see him start and finish his career as a Spur. I would have loved to see he and Ginobili playing at the same time. I believe they would have won more titles.
SDKDJCBO you just ignored everything he said here. He clearly says he’s a rhythm player that you can’t throw out for a couple minutes and expect him to produce the same.
@@cwellcpg Stax was never going to get consistent minutes as a fourth wing on an actual good team and he needed to adjust his attitude to that reality. If he wanted to huck up shots and get into rhythm he could've stuck around on rebuilding teams.
Jackson got publicly dissed by Greg Pop. Told his ass straight up that he isn’t starting because Danny Green (lol) is a better player. Then kicked his ass to the curb.
Insight from two of the most genuine cats out here. On and off the court. What pop did was tactical but snake shit and he knew stak was a real one and wouldn't say that shit. Lmaooo
Pop is a strange character. He is manipulative as they can be. But as Jack said, really smart and strategic. He is not afraid at challenges. Look at him now; coaching a team at low end of the NBA standing. A place where no superstar wants to play in. But superstars love him. If have a company I’d make him CEO without interviewing him, because I know I was going to be the absolute best chances to succeed with him.
This reminds me of being Black at a all white HS/Town.. I would work them Varsity boys every practice as a sophomore. Yet somehow they didn't let me start Varsity that year til Regionals and Sectionals came around🤔 I wasnt passing to nobody them tournaments I was gonna get mines regardless🤣 But they never sat me again either unless my grades was off🙄 That's a dif story though..
That's real talk man. Even when we as black men play at non black gyms, they don't understand the culture of trash talk or calling someone a bitch after you dunked on them. For most of us, it was survival. Me personally in 1995, we had would put all of our food stamps in a hat and play hunch (21) First to 21, winner talks all. Probably 7 of us, calling, scrapping, fighting, because that was our hustle to eat. Much love and thanks for sharing ya story bruh.
@@hipking23 Damn man that's real ish. Looked at us crazy for adding energy to the gym. It's all different now but that wasn't even 10 years ago. All Love Man🤙🏾
As a Spurs fan, the one thing I hated about Pop is that he didn’t like players like Stack. He couldn’t control him, he doesn’t like Players with edge. He gets rid of them! Jack could’ve helped us going forward after that 2003 championship!
@Este Vato Pancho Villa Cruz dudes that didn't really come close to winning a championship before he set foot in that door.. phil had to manage the biggest egos ever in this game.. such an underrated task... but pop had the luxury of his superstar being ultra humble and everyone else having to follow suit because of it
@Este Vato Pancho Villa Cruz tex was key.. but asst coaches make the coaching staff.. head coach controls the philosophy and the direction.. motivates and harnesses talent.. tex was the man tho
real spurs fan here from the late 80's....it's refreshing to hear how humble Jack is about Pop even to this day. A certain faction of fans deify Pop while a great number of us always know that Tim Duncan was the engine behind the Spurs. Everything the Spurs came to be known for was because of Tim, not Pop. Pop is soooooo smart 🙄 that he's outsmarted himself out of at least 2 extra championships. Jack is a top 10 Spur of ALL TIME. Just from his '03 playoff performance alone. Salute to him for his service to our city and keeping it classy regarding Popovich.
@gary corr never said it wasn't lol but he aint even on your team if you had to pick players from his generation lol dnt play yourself an get embarrased lol take his yrs in the NBA an ill name 2 teams worth of players before I get to him lol stop it
Average guys don’t have multiple years putting up 18 plus. Jack was the truth. A lot of those dudes that you think are great freeze up in big moments that Jack excelled in
From watching basketball, playing basketball and studying the game I know that Jackson could play on any team and should get many minutes and play. Also what Pop did just confirms to people that organizations are not loyal and players should not be loyal to organizations
Jack had 3 years when he shined bright: 1) Spurs Championship; he was the Spurs high scorer in the 2nd most playoff games after Tim Duncan 2) Pacers "Malice at the Palace" year; One of the Pacers big 3 with Ron Artest & Jermaine O'neil. (& threw the best punch in the fight) 3) Warriors "We believe Warriors" year; One of the Warriors big 3 with Baron Davis & Matt Barnes. The upset over the 1st place Mavericks is arguably the most exciting basketball you will see.
Man if I owned a NBA team during their careers both of these brothas would have been on my squad. Suspensions, technicals, fights and everything that came with them would have been ok with me. They are real dudes with heart and a love for the game. 100+ for 48 minutes and no fear, true old school ballas. Love these two dudes.
@@916Smoke What the hell are you talking about they are both NBA Champions and had 10+ year careers. Like I said I will take everything that comes with them because they have 10 times the heart of these soft NBA players of today.
I love stack as a player but bro really twisting stuff up. Coaches give players garbage minutes when they ain’t been on they game and they wanna see if they’ll put in effort even if they only get a bit of playing time. I watched Jack that year as a Spurs fan and when he got minutes he gave no effort at all. Meanwhile Danny Green was hustling locking dudes up hitting shots. Sounds like Jack was taking his frustration out on the team in practice and it was just hurting the chemistry, can’t have that when you’re trying to win a chip. Love ya Jack! 2003 you was the man
This is so good. I love the honesty. The only thing I don't like is him rooting for them to lose. If Kawhi makes his free throws late, Spurs win another championship.
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Love the insights from Stak and Matt. Sometimes as a fan, you forgot that the players go through the same thing like us, it’s just that they made more money.
Straight Facts!! Politics everywhere.
Yeah, man. Let’s be honest, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett have bad days too
Facts
Firash Adryan 😂
Firash Adryan Well people forget because they are dumb. These people have far more to deal with than most if us do. The money doesnt change shit. Dead sure 99% of these people would give all their money their mothers life.
Athletes arent elites. Most of them came from a humble background like most of us.
“BIITCH!” Lmaoo stack funny as hell get this man on a tv show
I cried 😂😂😂😂😂
Derek Smith stak *
Top left has has a watermark that says showtime. You just witnessed him on his tv show
Butt Stinkman Lmaooo facts
Butt Stinkman lol, this is the response I was looking for, thanks.
“ They know how i feel about Ray Allen, i wouldve for sure locked his ass up” 😂😂😂😂😂😂 omg the savagery
Does anyone know why he doesn’t like Ray Allen?
@@eldio2124 he think he better than him I love stack but I got my bread on ray Allen
He was nice tho.....he may have done it
In his fuckin dream.
He thinks he better than everyone
This is what happens when everyone thinks just because u from the hood u realer/more correct than everyone else
On gang gang slatt shit
"They ended up losing to Miami, good for they ass"
Stack a real one 😂
The Gooch Then to get the last laugh next season..
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@sethdoty516 I'm a lebron fan so your kinda right even though Bron won in 2016 with Cleveland & kwahi got the last laugh on them & now they probably will never make the playoffs again
@@rxtsec1 your dumb af if you think the spurs will never make the playoffs again 😂. Could make yourself look a little less like a clown and say finals
R2K II WOLF as far as I’m concerned, the spurs playoff streak is still alive lol
Jack is a legend in his own mind. I love this dude!
@Magnolia Trees in the Meadow he played some tough opponents
@@Luminous03 true that's why I respect where he's coming from
@Magnolia Trees in the Meadow lol his family's
Stephen Jackson will always go down as a guy you want on your team.
HANGAR NUT true bro he’s just real
this story has gotten wilder every time jack tells it.
lmao.
I love it 😂
I swear he gotta different version everytime
Hans Moleman I love storytellers like him. It makes you look forward to hearing their stories even if you’ve heard it before. lol
I heard this story from the announcers in the playoffs in 2013. So it has to be true if Jack says it and the Spurs say it.
because its utter bs?
Yeah, that T Mac stint with San Antonio was just weird
He was at the end of the road and was a rebound or ginobili free throw away from a ring. His whole post Houston career was weird. Was like the Monstars took over his body.
Turk he played through injuries he never should have and never took care of his body on like a Kobe level. And I to this day am a much bigger fan of tmac.
I heard VanGundy I think years ago say the same thing you just did....
@@Primenumber19 tmac never practiced like Kobe.
He was done
I remember that Western finals game in Dallas. Spurs was getting beat down, then all of a sudden Jackson and Kerr saved the day. Kerr was a cold blooded killer sniper that game. 👴
Man, dem Mavs n Spurs playoffs were crazy.
Who gave Kerr that confidence? I think #23 Kerr got 3 b4 he went 2 San Antonio
Craig “Speedy” Claxton ended up outplaying Tony Parker in The Finals that year too.
Kerr went like 3 or 4 3's all back to back to send that team to the finals I thought it was over until Kerr and Jackson.
I remember that game..Manu was putting in work too,but the 2 Steve's were on point!
Respect to Jack for seeing/appreciating where Pop was meaning to come from, even though it wasn’t right on his part. That’s a bitter thing to be let go from doing what you love to do, no matter what it is, but it takes a big person to still speak highly on the person who did it, like he does about Pop.
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I don't think Jack is giving all the details on this one. The story is a little sus
Stephen Jackson is funny, but he sure is his own biggest fan
Seriously, dude acts like he was something other than a dude who got inefficient buckets his whole career. There was a reason Popovich wasn’t playing his ass.
I agree
But at the end of the day, we should all be our own biggest fan.
It's called confidence and belief in yourself
If ur not your own biggest fan than who is going to be ???
Dude literally said “I’m not on carmelos level” that’s pretty humble
For reals, dude really thinks he better than MJ and Kobe combined.
Many of us SPURS fans were PISSED OFF when you got cut Jack! That was a HUGE mistake!
I learn so much about the inside elements of the NBA from watching this show. Very heartfelt and genuine discussions. Keep this going for REAL 💯
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“When I saw his face, I just wanted to kick the shit out of it” 💯 I can relate
Keith Demby 😂😂😭😭💀
I believe coach Pop plays those mind games. You can tell.
You have to play mind games just to get laid. So what's the problem
@Clutch7 truth
takes a woman to spot that fact huh :P:
why you think the Claw bounced on they ass
Yeah he tried that shit with Kawhi and it backfired big time. Some people don't appreciate that stuff
I remember Stephen having monster games against the Lakers his first time around in San Antonio. Always wished Jack would have played on the Lakers with Kobe.
I remember Stephen Jackson going off in a games 6 lose to OKC. I think he hit like 7 threes
I always thought these 2 guys should’ve been on the Lakers with Kobe and Metta World Peace! They had an intensity that will always be unmatched!
To be fair that year he ain't playing over manu and kawhi also that was the year danny green went off in the finals but all love to jax
Miguel Huerta yeah tbh he wasn’t better than any of those guys. He probably would have been more valuable on the defensive end than tmac though
Baden Dennis hundred percent. Bad legs and back for Mac. I’d be bitter if I was Jackson
They didn’t need a defender. They had Duncan, kawhi and Danny green and Ginobli who were all great defenders. That’s why they got tmac. He was always a better scorer then stak. It wasn’t that stak was bad he just wasn’t the fit for the system.
@@limpbrisket6851 jackson is in no way more valuable than Ginobili.
@@gr8esthandleever no crap! I was saying Jackson was possibly more valuable than TMac at that time for the Spurs
Pop said it in a long speech for FIBA. He doesnt care if you're good if you're an asshole. He takes character over skill and thats why this team won a title every 4 years for decades.
It was a character thing. Chip Kelly got rid of one of the best offensive team for the same reason.
But they never repeat
@@Nooneshouldknowme I take 5 chips in 20 years over a repeat
Lol have they won since tim has retired?
@@elmztana1201 They nearly won the next year (up 25 on the road against Warriors until Zaza ended everything.. and dont tell me it was just an one time thing. Kawhi was beating the shit out of the Warriors during every regular season game too that year)
After that came his injury and trade. They tried to reload for one season but gave up after seeing that DeFrozen and Alfridge cant do it. Now they're in full rebuild mode.. and doing an amazing job so far.
Look at their roster right now. Oldest player that will play a big role on this team is Derrick White.
Dejounte Murray, Devin Vassell, White, Lonnie, Keldon Johnson.. and you also have some real raw talent like Luka Samanic and Primo.
But yeah.. you probably dont even know who these people are lol casual YT-fans.
That’s why I tune in everytime 100% raw uncut I feel like my people talking ! They stay real I watch every thing they post that’s for real
The thing is Manu was better than Stack...
Jourdan Chaney so
@@makesomeplays so I don't know why stack was so mad at that when it was facts...
he still didnt need to get released doh...jack was still a solid defender puttin up numbers doh....
Jourdan Chaney you conveniently left Danny Green out of the equation
Stak said he wouldn't say it and that they would have to prove it. Pop obviously did not feel confident enough in those guys to set up 1s. Danny Green definitely would have lost, he can't faceup dribble under pressure
Stephen Jackson: "I aint play in another NBA team since then [release from 2013 Spurs]"
Matt Barnes (inside): "Weren't we teammates on the Clippers in the following season?"
Jackson kind of guy to say "some guy murdered my whole family and stole my wealth...but I still have mad respect for him. " lol
Dawg 😂😂
Chill out lmao
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Will always appreciate these insider perspectives on the NBA. Really paints a picture behind what we see as fans
to be cut during the playoffs, it’s petty asf
Arturo _23NL It’s funny
It's something
@Arturo_23NL
Teams do it as need be to get to the playoffs or try to strengthen the team as they see fit, but there is a way to time it before the deadline so that Jack could have gone on to a team that could perhaps make a run at the playoffs, Lakers did that this year with Troy Daniels and he ended up joining the playoff contending Nuggets.
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I don’t listen to the media people like Bill Simmons, Brian Windhorst or max Kellerman. I can’t listen to u if u never played the game.
agreed
Bill Simmons is knowledgeable and credible. It’s ignorant to think that u can’t speak on the game if u weren’t a pro. Some of those guys have studied and watched the game at the highest level for decades and have nearly as much knowledge as any player. Players can only give u one side of the spectrum. This game is more than just on court play. This is a culture filled with real voices worth a listen. Open ur mind.
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CPGoat #3 STOP IT. How could you listen to someone who’s never stepped on the court? How could you listen to someone who doesn’t know what it takes be an elite ATHLETE. Nah I’m good I don’t listen to that bullshit
Rob Smith hellyea tell em
While I was happy for T-Mac to be in the finals, I don’t understand waiving Stack for him
Both S-Jack & T-Mac were past their primes at that point, but T-Mac had more upside. S-Jack also admitted he needed more minutes to get into the flow of the game...but he wasn't going to get more minutes with those other guys in the rotation, so T-Mac would definitely fit better with only 3-5 minute bursts on the floor.
@@big10 ... exactly right ... & it was a good decision also giving more minutes to a young kawhi & a prime danny green cuz they are a big help beating the miami heat the next year & made lebron 3-6 blames realized that san antonio is his daddy ......... 😂🤣😂- 😭😭😭😭😭😭 ...
johnnie hotrod 🤣 I’m your Daddy
Big10 S-Jack?... 🤢
@@jtyree0226 ...... whatchu talkin'
'bout willis ??? 😭😭😭---😭😭😭😭😭😭
When Jack said he saw Pops face he just wanted to kick the shit out of it 🤣😂🤣
The more I think about it the more I realize that Timmy is the main reason the Spurs were successful. he was the connective tissue between the players and the organization.
You got that right. The Spurs were a mess before he got there & now that he's not playing anymore, they're back to being that mess that they were 23 years ago.
I feel the same way. Don't let the outside nerdy appearance and his voice fool you, Duncan was a dog. He recognized that in Stak and that's why they got along.
Cesar Canete they weren’t a mess before Duncan, they had like 4 seasons where they missed the playoffs before Duncan. And even now the issue is kawhis departure. We were contenders still when Duncan retired
@@ztlabraptor211 I guess you're right. It's really crazy & disheartening to see the Spurs back to being a lottery team after 22 years of consistently being a championship contender at best & lower seed playoff team at worst. The Spurs haven't missed a playoffs since Duncan got there & this season looks like it'll be the 1st time since then. I guess maybe it has a whole to do w/ how they did Kawhi wrong & this is them paying their kharmatic debt.
Cesar Canete they didn’t do Kawhi wrong. They let him sit for half a year without question, cleared him to play, and then he sat after 9 games with a separate issue in his shoulder and ran away to New York while the team played in the playoffs without his presence.
Not only was Kawhi in the wrong for that situation, but Kawhi himself has said that he just wanted to go home to LA, hence why he asked for a trade there and left Toronto to go there
Jack, is very humble and always gives praise where it is due.
"Soon as I seen his face, killed my whole mood" 😂😂😂😂
Hard not to like you Stak but gotta check you. It's called coaching, when you're number is called on you're expected to perform.....period! While there are some cases in which coaches will deliberately "hurt" their players but Coach Pop doesn't strike me as one. He clearly liked you Stak I just think he found it difficult to coach you. Shout out to Matt, true G! Madd love
There wasn’t going to be anything that saved the Spurs during the end of that Game 6 with Duncan on the bench. LeBron went crazy in the fourth quarter. 16 points. The biggest mistake Pop made with all due respect to Stephen was taking Duncan out of the game. He would’ve gotten that rebound or at least made it tough for Bosh to get it. And Stephen wouldn’t have stopped Ray from knocking that shot down.
Andre Ricardo Bryant Jack, Kawhi and Manu were all 80-83% free throw shooters. I doubt that he would’ve had more calmness at the line than Ginobili. Ginobili was a big time clutch player in his career. He just missed. It happens. Duncan missed point blank shots at the rim that game too. Sometimes weird things happen in games.
True. Duncan had 17 rebounds in game 6.
@Andre Ricardo Bryant Manu also had really bad turnovers that game too. Everyone remembers the last two mins, but not the key moments of the game/series. Manu played like shit
Yeah I doubt Stephen would have done anything to help win in those moments. The way things just played out it was destined to happen. All those misses from various players that normally make it go in easy just missed. He wasn’t stopping that Ray Allen 3 that thing was too wet, he just too into his feelings when in comes to Ray.
Is it just me but it seemed like pop was challenging Jackson because of how confident he was
That wasn't a challenged. That was a Death by Ego chess move. Calculated departure indeed.
As a spurs fan born in ‘96 I was spoiled with greatness throughout my childhood…so many memories with friends and family attending/watching games. Now that I’m older I just appreciate it even more. Hopefully we can build around Wemby and capture another title in the near future. As for Stak, he was a baller in his own right. Coach Pop is just a tough coach and I’m sure Stak would say Coach Pop made him a batter player and person overall. 2013 had a devastating ending but 2014 was the sweetest revenge tour of all time….
Thank you Stak for the peek behind the curtain…all love🙏
I wish Chicago Bulls would would sign Stephen Jackson we need that toughness on the team but after they get rid of the front office and get a better coach
Is there an episode where he talks about how feels about Ray Allen?
That’s what I’m trying to see
He and Ray Allen had problems
@@kwilliams544 Why?
@@chiefchiefer5005 im asking too bro
@@kwilliams544 Ray smacked Stax on the lip when they were having a kissing contest
It sounds like he was kicking ass in practice and it was hurting Danny Green and other players confidence. Stak was really in a no win scenario
Boooker you are right.
@Edgar Alvarez well thelast few years would have been fine if Kawhi didn't want to leave. Can you imagine the Spurs making a perfect translation into the Kawhi era right after Tim retired?
I’m a big fan of Pop Tim and Spurs culture but I was elated when we got Cap Jack, I loved his game and I thought he was an important piece on the Spurs that “dog” kinda player like the KG on his later Boston years and Udonis Haslem on the Miami Shaq Wade days. He was also so much better than Tmac on his last legs. Underrated asF.
steven talks like he was mj lmao
lmao fr talking about he was gonna come back haunt em buddy u didnt even make the league after lmaooo
Jack was a beast maybe look at his career stats
Have u really seen Jack play? Do u know his stats? And he does have a Chip He can talk facts bro
he's so blatantly hateful and jealous over guys like Tony Parker and Ray Allen😂😂
Ant Arnold but he ain't no Ray Allen or Tony Parker, these guys certified HOFs and props to Jack for being confident in himself but he's not better than those guys
I’m sry. But that’s still disrespectful on pops part.
he really tried to tell a grown man to tell other men they better then him .like wtf
@@slicktom300 ego/pride aside it was/is true
that's Jackson's side, wait til you hear Pop's side I bet he had a damn good reason to do what he did
Jeffrey Kim bull crap. I’m still waiting on his “damn good reason” for taking tim Duncan out the game in game 6 vs Miami that allowed Ray Allen to his that shot.
@@Se0420_ i mean no coach is perfect. Ultimately Pop is a winner but I'm sure he will recognize his mistakes. It's a part of the game
I could listen to these dudes all day
“I would’ve gotten that rebound” 🤣🤣🤣
Y’all was chopping Up some good Game Bros!! #TILL THIS DAY!!!🔥🔥💪🏿
As a spurs fan we wanted you on the floor more and as a long term part of the puzzle. Your still a champion brother
Stephen Jackson thought he was a HOF his head was bigger than his game
he averaged 15.1 points a game and had years he averaged 20.
The man was really good
Jeff Amsdell you don’t have to be a starter to get minutes
Life with G The Mac he never said he was a HOF player. He knows his status. You know nothing about the guy
S E2333 First of all get your facts straight before speaking..He said the brawl in Detroit messed up his all star and HOf chances.
Life with G The Mac what is hof?
This inconsistent time management derailed Isiah Thomas and Nate Robinson, big time
Don’t forget about Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf
@@supremeleem9488 don't forget about Hasheem thabeet
Isiah Thomas, I feel sorry for him. The celtics did him dirty that year.
@@t.r.o.y.therighteousobeysy8358on Isiah Thomas, I feel like the whole league did him dirty
@@raphaeljoseph6952 Washington at least let IT do his thing. The team lacked defenders to counter his lack of defense, because he was really bad on that end.
I'm kind of surprised Philly didn't pick him up though
Stephen Jackson deserves his jersey retired here. I remember 2003. You gave us the edges to win in 2003. Thank you Stephen Jackson.
omar arreola facts my guy
For 3 years being a role player?
Vinicius Goulart If you watched the game 6 3’s Jackson shot, it was him that closed the championship. And before then, the Spurs were struggling to get a lead. We know he went away and became an all-star. But if he would have stayed, he would have his Jersey retired. And he won a ring with the spurs .I wish he would have played more in San Antonio. I know it is a bit much, but San Antonio loves Stephen Jackson.
omar arreola nah man he had a good run but 1 run doesn’t equal a retirement. Hell im pretty sure Kawhi ain’t gonna get his jersey retired here too and he’s waaaaaaay more accomplished
@@habbomaniacos100 the bars so low might as well retire Thiago splitters jersey too😂😂
I remember this. Given how ginobili played in the finals that year, had they had Jack on the team I'd like to think the outcome would have been different. Always been a player you can count on in crunch time. Loves to compete too. I didn't understand why they let him go. He definitely would have made a difference in that finals.
Stephen Jackosn: 12,976 career points, Ray Allen: 24,505 career points
Uh-Oh! Stack slipped up about how he felt about Ray allan! A truth was about to come out
sholove Sholove I’m curious about what went down between SJax and Ray. 🤔🤔🤔
@bojo perez I'm sry but Ray fucking Allen is not an average player && much better than Stak you buggin
@bojo perez my reading is great bro, just interpreted your comment wrong.
@Edgar Alvarez it's not ambiguous at all actually, you just need to learn to read better.
Dude was 3rd best at his position on that team that year, at best. As I remember his want for playing time didn’t match his play that year.
2nd He was a SF Then
He was hitting 3s in the 2012 playoffs
As a spurs fan for 15 years,after this story,and all the shits stephen gone through,right now i dont have the same feelings about that miami loss
This is the best NBA podcast with two of the realest and two of my favorite players. Also Stacks is the best Baller rapper ever church!!!!
"I had to go and punish The Big 3 next couple of years" 😂😂😂
Stak acting like he a HOF player lol.
Lol lol I like his ego
On defense he was for sure!!
@@indergill5532 lol stop
He was decent
6ft 2hunnid ain’t no stop that real he a y’all of famer defensively
Big ups to Barnes man much love and respect for holding it down for us
#sacramento #916 #kings
Captain Jack is my man. I trust Pop decisions but I wish he would have kept Captn Jack. They butted heads alot. I would have loved to see him start and finish his career as a Spur. I would have loved to see he and Ginobili playing at the same time. I believe
they would have won more titles.
Ima spurs fan and watch all the games. I like jacks all day long but kawhi was a beast on day already and damny green also
Exactly. Jack was shooting 27% from 3 that year. Maybe hit some shots and wouldnt of got cut.
@@SDCBO619 lol
SDKDJCBO he did say he was a rhythm player
SDKDJCBO you just ignored everything he said here. He clearly says he’s a rhythm player that you can’t throw out for a couple minutes and expect him to produce the same.
@@cwellcpg Stax was never going to get consistent minutes as a fourth wing on an actual good team and he needed to adjust his attitude to that reality. If he wanted to huck up shots and get into rhythm he could've stuck around on rebuilding teams.
Matt is excellent on this show. Props.
Jackson got publicly dissed by Greg Pop. Told his ass straight up that he isn’t starting because Danny Green (lol) is a better player. Then kicked his ass to the curb.
Insight from two of the most genuine cats out here. On and off the court. What pop did was tactical but snake shit and he knew stak was a real one and wouldn't say that shit. Lmaooo
Lol he used his realness against em lol
I got luv4 stack but bro... U wouldn't hav locked R. Allen up! 😆 4get about it
Ray Allen at that age. He would have.
Jackson best years was with the spurs, he was a beast, I was surprise how they cut him like that
gary corr bobcats
Naw golden state
He was decent with Indiana too
I knew stak wasn’t gon say that bs 😂😂
"AND I'M STILL GETTING RAIL ROADED".
One of the best episodes ever on this channel.
Pop is a strange character. He is manipulative as they can be. But as Jack said, really smart and strategic. He is not afraid at challenges. Look at him now; coaching a team at low end of the NBA standing. A place where no superstar wants to play in. But superstars love him. If have a company I’d make him CEO without interviewing him, because I know I was going to be the absolute best chances to succeed with him.
This reminds me of being Black at a all white HS/Town.. I would work them Varsity boys every practice as a sophomore. Yet somehow they didn't let me start Varsity that year til Regionals and Sectionals came around🤔 I wasnt passing to nobody them tournaments I was gonna get mines regardless🤣 But they never sat me again either unless my grades was off🙄 That's a dif story though..
That's real talk man. Even when we as black men play at non black gyms, they don't understand the culture of trash talk or calling someone a bitch after you dunked on them. For most of us, it was survival. Me personally in 1995, we had would put all of our food stamps in a hat and play hunch (21) First to 21, winner talks all. Probably 7 of us, calling, scrapping, fighting, because that was our hustle to eat. Much love and thanks for sharing ya story bruh.
@@tbreeze415 thanks for sharing yours as well.
tbreeze415 this had nothing to do with his comment
@@geraldbuncum3861 haha ok man
@@hipking23 Damn man that's real ish. Looked at us crazy for adding energy to the gym. It's all different now but that wasn't even 10 years ago. All Love Man🤙🏾
this the realest show out there right now
Matt Barnes facial reaction to Jack statement was priceless!!! Make it a meme
If Kobe and Stack played on the same team with Shaq that team woulda been really different 🔥🔥🔥
As a Spurs fan, the one thing I hated about Pop is that he didn’t like players like Stack. He couldn’t control him, he doesn’t like Players with edge. He gets rid of them! Jack could’ve helped us going forward after that 2003 championship!
That's the biggest difference between him and Phil Jackson
@@samgunz1 The biggest difference is the Phil had MJ and Pippen then Kobe and Shaq.
@Este Vato Pancho Villa Cruz dudes that didn't really come close to winning a championship before he set foot in that door.. phil had to manage the biggest egos ever in this game.. such an underrated task... but pop had the luxury of his superstar being ultra humble and everyone else having to follow suit because of it
@Sam Gunz If i had tex winters on my staff I could have coached mj/pippin and kobe/Shaq to back to back championships. Phil is overrated.
@Este Vato Pancho Villa Cruz tex was key.. but asst coaches make the coaching staff.. head coach controls the philosophy and the direction.. motivates and harnesses talent.. tex was the man tho
I’m glad he has a lot of respect for pop. He’s like the troublesome son.
😂
I would've loved to see Stephen Jackson on the OKC Thunder with KD and Russ
real spurs fan here from the late 80's....it's refreshing to hear how humble Jack is about Pop even to this day. A certain faction of fans deify Pop while a great number of us always know that Tim Duncan was the engine behind the Spurs. Everything the Spurs came to be known for was because of Tim, not Pop. Pop is soooooo smart 🙄 that he's outsmarted himself out of at least 2 extra championships. Jack is a top 10 Spur of ALL TIME. Just from his '03 playoff performance alone. Salute to him for his service to our city and keeping it classy regarding Popovich.
The 2 guys that will tell the real honest talk about the game of basketball NBA behind the business
I love Jack but hes that dude that swears hes the best but in reality he was 3rd from last being picked lol
@gary corr never said it wasn't lol but he aint even on your team if you had to pick players from his generation lol dnt play yourself an get embarrased lol take his yrs in the NBA an ill name 2 teams worth of players before I get to him lol stop it
gary corr average player with the delusions of being a star.. not the spurs way so he went bye bye
Average guys don’t have multiple years putting up 18 plus. Jack was the truth. A lot of those dudes that you think are great freeze up in big moments that Jack excelled in
CwellATL averaging 40% from the field and lower to get to those points is average
@@cwellcpg he wasn't the truth lol like I said you can name 2 teams worth b4 you get to Jack. Dnt play yourself either lol
LMAOOOO that Matt Barnes Face BRuhhh 3:28
From watching basketball, playing basketball and studying the game I know that Jackson could play on any team and should get many minutes and play. Also what Pop did just confirms to people that organizations are not loyal and players should not be loyal to organizations
I could watch you guys all day
I was PISSED when Jack got cut!!
Love this episode right here
I died when he said he would’ve got that rebound. He’s right though lmao
2:38 "kick him in his fuckin face" LMAOOO
Jack talks like he was that dude when he was with the spurs😅
He pretty much won that championship for the spurs in 03 though look it up
@@k50aok12 you and your momma smoke crack.
K50 AOK yea stop talking 😂
he was
Jack had 3 years when he shined bright:
1) Spurs Championship; he was the Spurs high scorer in the 2nd most playoff games after Tim Duncan
2) Pacers "Malice at the Palace" year; One of the Pacers big 3 with Ron Artest & Jermaine O'neil. (& threw the best punch in the fight)
3) Warriors "We believe Warriors" year; One of the Warriors big 3 with Baron Davis & Matt Barnes. The upset over the 1st place Mavericks is arguably the most exciting basketball you will see.
Stephen a real one for that
For what exactly?He wasnt better than those guy.He got released
My new favorite sports show!
Man if I owned a NBA team during their careers both of these brothas would have been on my squad. Suspensions, technicals, fights and everything that came with them would have been ok with me. They are real dudes with heart and a love for the game. 100+ for 48 minutes and no fear, true old school ballas. Love these two dudes.
Wouldn't have had much of a team. They hurt their careers with that crap.
@@916Smoke What the hell are you talking about they are both NBA Champions and had 10+ year careers. Like I said I will take everything that comes with them because they have 10 times the heart of these soft NBA players of today.
2:46 "I sit down, he got all the highlights of me fucking up in the last 3 to 4 games, my worst possessions"
Pop a straight savage lmao
Dude was averaging 6 points on 37% shooting, 27% from three. But sure, he was better than Ginobili and Danny Green lol
On how many attempts? And how many minutes?
Numa 2K and what was Danny green numbers? #shitty and he played decent minutes
@@WilliamJones-uz4oi 10.6 on 45 from the field and 43 from 3
This dude is cold. I want him on my squad.
I love stack as a player but bro really twisting stuff up. Coaches give players garbage minutes when they ain’t been on they game and they wanna see if they’ll put in effort even if they only get a bit of playing time.
I watched Jack that year as a Spurs fan and when he got minutes he gave no effort at all. Meanwhile Danny Green was hustling locking dudes up hitting shots.
Sounds like Jack was taking his frustration out on the team in practice and it was just hurting the chemistry, can’t have that when you’re trying to win a chip.
Love ya Jack! 2003 you was the man
He gives Pop too much credit... I don’t respect the way he handled that... great coach or not
Patrick Poole because it’s most of the truth not all of it. That’s why he’s ok with it
@@mrsaltypnutz good insight
jack not saying every part
Stack like Barnes was always a good roll players never starters or all star type of players
You really need to check him out in Indy Charlotte and GS. You definitely not a boomer.
This is so good. I love the honesty. The only thing I don't like is him rooting for them to lose. If Kawhi makes his free throws late, Spurs win another championship.
I was you Jack on my college hoops team
Well he’s behind 2 hall of famers and a dude still starting for the Lakers. Pop do got what he got to do.
Edgar Alvarez that’s why they didn’t care to cut him, garbage minutes is all he get had he stayed