Our brakes failed on the motorway three days after this video was uploaded. Thank you so much. Please people remember to keep calm if this happens to you
Same, the servo failed, and the electronic handbrake did not work In VW, the electonic handbrake when held, acts as an emergency brake and brakes as hard as it can. (I tested it on the snow and ice, and the ABS is fully on and the car brakes as hard as it can.) I had to drive on the hard shoulder while gearing down..
3 years later, this happened to me in my seat ibiza and I went for the brakes, the brakes don't work. I was going about 35 mph and this video really helped! Thanks! Old videos really do help still.
I'm a lorry driver and I always tell people when learning to drive to learn how to stop without using your brakes and find the right revs to change gear without your clutch but everytime I have to show them its possible before they believe me but your advise is amzing and i have shared it on Facebook asking people to watch it who don't already know the lifes that could be saved if everyone was taught it when learning to drive in the first place but this video is idoit proof so hats off to you for making a brilliant video
As with any problem behind the wheel,simply close both eyes,because if you can't see it,it can't hurt you.This system is infallible,it has not let me down in 50 years.Many thanks to my instructors.
I started freaking out over break failure after I seen a video of a lotus loosing breaks when hit in there rear so I started watching videos how to stop. So. I feel better seeing this video. Thanks much. I appreciate it.
I've seen that video. It's not usually for that to happen. I used to own a VX220 which is very similar to that car, I'm guessing it's because it's old and delicate. Mine was so I ended up replacing many components to keep it fresh.
There's no better way to do it just like this guy. You're one of a kind and how you actually know what we would need to know. Thank you very much. Cheers
I appreciate ur detail explanation quality. There r many platforms on TH-cam here in India. Driving in India is a bit complicated. But ur quality of explanation is excellent than Indian platform on car driving in TH-cam. 👍👍
This has to be the only video on TH-cam that fully details the e-brake in emergency situations. I could not find another. This is valuable information. I was never taught this. 👌✌
Really informative video, here is a bit note for myself. Rough guide, for petrol manual car, first gear can handle around 25, second 50 and third 75 miles per hour, choose the right gear, raise the clutch and hold on the bite point, come off the clutch, then keep change gear to slow the car gradually until the first gear, when the car slow enough, push the clutch in and use handbrake to stop the car. For automatic car, choose neutral, or L if they have. For use handbrake alone, push the clutch in, press and hold the button while lift up the handbrake. Best to combine the gear with the handbrake. 50 miles per hour. Clutch in, change to second gear, bring the clutch to the bite point and use the handbrake; when the speed slow enough, put down the handbrake, clutch in, change to first gear, bring the clutch to the bite point and use the handbrake, clutch in before stop. For e-break, press and hold the button.
Thank you Richard. I like your style of demonstration and experience. I m learning most of the techniques from your videos and practising on my tata nano.
Hello Conquer driving Passed my test today with 1 minor only Just wanted to give you a big thanks from my heart for helping out with your awesome videos and tips You're awesome mate and I pray to God to give you million million subscribers because of your awesome content. -Nikhil
i tested that once, even with the clutch in its impossible to change into reverse while moving as the engagement rings are spinning in opposite directions, just grinds, if you could somehow get it into gear tho youd certainly stop quickly
Good driver. Using the clutch to stop and not dumping the clutch and causing major driveline shock and upsetting the balance of the car. Very smoothly executed.
I am a learner and thought brake failure was certain doom lol. Obviously not . I know about engine braking at much lower speeds as I have done it in lessons, but this seems to be something they'll not be teaching me in lessons lol. It is something every driver needs to know though so I don't see why not. Learners should get at least one emergency scenario per so many lessons really, one dealing with failed brakes should be top of the list. It's this kind of thing that saves lives, thank you for this video x
@@ConquerDriving This is something you shouldn't ever face if you maintain your car properly and keep up with regular services. However accidents happen, so this video was very informative, thank you x
You should always keep trying the service brake with whatever foot is free. Compartmentalized hydraulic systems mean even with a leak in one circuit, your service brakes will still have some function, and it is usually more than what a parking brake alone can provide. Complete and total brake failures are exceedingly rare. Your parking brake is not meant to stop the car. It's a parking brake. Very slow leaks cause the pedal to become spongy and trigger the brake system idiot light, so you'll have plenty of warning before you completely lose your fluid. You are correct. Most modern electronic parking brake systems threshold brake in that "panic stop mode" triggered by holding the switch by taking input from wheel speed sensors. ABS effectively, and so are able to stop faster than most people can by modulating a manual parking brake because they can apply a lot more force than your average person, and much more precisely.
you might wanna double declutch into first. In all seriousness, this was a very great and helpfull video, and everyone should just be mandated to watch it before they get their drivers license
Losing focus due to panic is real. I once got brake malfunction while stopping at a traffic light. Even at 5kmh, my only thought was to stop my tyre with the raised sidewalks I didnt think at all about using handbrakes Great video! I hope it will remind me better next time
one very critical thing you forgot is pumping the brakes! your cars regular brakes are better than the parking brake or engine braking, so you should try to get those working first. As you said, most braking problems are due to the hydrolic system and sometimes air bubbles in that system can make your brakes fail! pumping the brakes can compress the air bubble in your system and get your brakes back for a while. the other things you talked about are very important too, but you should always try pumping the brakes first!
Thats a good advice from u for all drivers! The thing is all new cars have 2 circles off the hydraulic brake fluid most X (front left + rear right...) So u have minimum 30% of normal breaking so u mostly not need to do that. 😛
I did mention that a the end of the video. You could lose your master cylinder which would cause complete brake failure. But the handbrake would still work.
I was in a car where the brakes failed coming up to a roundabout, car was coming from the left, handbrake wasn't doing enough, had to pull really hard to be able to just merge behind him, that's when the cable snapped, that was scary! remember trying to act like it was OK to my my partner, brought it down to first and turned on hazards, pulled into a quiet side street with a very gentle incline and rolled it into a parking spot in neutral, let it bump the kerb gently and then caught it in first with the clutch and turned the engine off while bringing the clutch up completely to hold it, probably the most complicated stop I ever had to perform, had I panicked about having no brakes at all the situation could have been much worse. Still don't know what caused the brakes to fail suddenly and the timing wasn't good, just about immediately assessing your options and letting other road users know something is wrong. But if you keep calm, you can stop a car with no brakes at all, everyone should know how to do this! Glad I knew the roads well enough to plan a safe stop using the terrain to help and that it was a manual, not sure how you'd stop an automatic in similar situation other than coasting on level ground in neutral, but fortunately the chances of losing your brakes are very low and the chances of losing the hand brake as well are even lower, I am just apparently very lucky, unfortunately it's all bad luck! BUt no one was hurt ad it was a smooth stop!
Haven't watched the vid yet but my brakes recently failed at 60mph downhill. My instinct was to throw on hazards, shift into second and pull to the side. The brakes were working but were spongey and didn't slow the car down much, so I used the handbrake to come to a complete stop. Not sure what the correct way is to do it but that worked for me.
I think there are some E-handbrakes are using ABS, depending on the vehicle. It could certainlybeusing tbe sa.e system as the brake pedal, with drive-by-wire. There is a great video of someone testing different handbrakes - garage 54 engage electronic handbrake at speed
Guys.. cars with electronic hand brake you can Push that button and it will brake just like the normal brake because it has abs too and doesn’t lock the rear wheel
Some electric parking brakes use the hydraulics as well tho, even are connected to the ABS, i remember some VAG cars using that, my Q2 for sure did. Which, nicely said, sucks in this situation.
Been there before in probably a near worst case scenario (excluding weather). 2.2 Ton Automatic people carrier, manual foot-operated handbrake (hand lever release), down hill to a roundabout with a hydraulic fluid leak. Pressed the pedal and my foot kept moving to the floor (maybe 2-3s cycle time) I had to shift down manually in the auto as far as it would let me, hold the lever-release, press the foot-operated handbrake (which was essentially useless but made me feel better) with one foot whilst pumping the normal pedal with the other. Every now and then using my elbow to knock it down another gear. All the while steering and trying to judge my distance and options for potential evasion. Luckily the car at the roundabout pulled away before I got there and the traffic was clear then so I was able to continue through the junction to the street ahead (outside my work carpark as it happens) and coast to a halt using the now uphill street.
Some cars have the disadvantage (advantage?) of not being able to downshift to 1st gear, while going over certain speed. For example, on my 2001 golf, the lever doesn't go into 1st, unless I go less than 30km/h (20mph).
That's because switching to first at speed puts a lot of strain on the synchromesh, it will go in if you push firmly for long enough. Don't ram it, pressure it.
I once watched a video and someone said they put their Autobox in reverse since their brakes failed. It came to a screeching stop in no time. In cars, at least 2005 and newer, there’s a failsafe that doesn’t engage reverse until like 10mph. If your car is older than 2005, use Reverse to come to a halt!
Lets get to the Fun Part now, your breaks are Hydraulic so is the Clutch in cars newer than 2008. If the break system fails and both of the Break Circuits don't work anymore it has to be a Hydraulic Issue and your Clutch isn't working either. But dont worry, you can shift into Neutral without a clutch and there won't be any damage. Now that your car is in Neutral all you have to do is using the Handbreak. If you have an electrical Break just hold the buttons for a few seconds, the wheels will not lock. If you have the old school one, just pull it like the video said. If im Wrong, feel free to correct me.
@@ConquerDriving Oh really? Ok, thats cool. On my Renault the Transmission Cyclinder broke down and the breaks were gone as well cause they shared the same Reservoir
10:26 The Parking Brake if automatic will brake with 75% Brake Force (ABS is activated) until 7km/h where it will activate the parking brake. Also the brake light comes on and on VW it activates the Warning Light. (RTFM) So you could do it even on ice.
Hmm, I have a cvt transmission car. So in case of brake failure, I'll shift into L gear and progressively increasing the handbrake pressure to slow down. Ok, now I got it. Thank you very much for the video. 👍
In 1969, right after I had my car license about a month (I was 16 years old), the master cylinder on my friend's car got a hole in it on a very steep hill near his house. His car was a standard. First gear downhill only got me down to about 25 MPH with a VERY sharp curve (a right turn) ahead of me , just two lanes, no shoulders and lots of traffic. My choice: REVERSE. I left parts for a half block on the road, but I got it stopped with no parking brake and no service brakes and without hitting anything. A clutch plate and throw-out bearing was the cheapest options I had and the right choice. An entire transmission would have been better than eating a tree or lightpole or oncoming car at 25 MPH. I ended up sitting still in a church parking lot unhurt, no one else hurt either, counting my fingers and toes. Can't do much better than that.
From what I saw in your video, it seems to me that car computer decide to use all 4 breaks to stop you if you pull electronic handbrake while you have significant speed. Look how your front end dives down when stopping; it would not if only rear wheel breaks are activated.
I'd like to share my friend's experience, maybe that also helps someone. She was in the city, and coming to a traffic light on a fast road. And all breaks broke (I forgot what was the reason they've diagnosed later why neither regular nor handbrake didn't work), she did engine break and then went into the curb to slow her to full stop. However DO NOT go to the curb in higer than those 5ish miles from the first gear, because you might end up on the roof :/
I brought a car with really worn out breaks and taking the car to get fixed tomorrow so just here seeing if i could use the breakpads less till i get there lol
Just some additional advise. Before assuming your brakes have failed try pressing on the brake peddle really hard. You're more likely to loose your brake booster than a complete brake failure so just check that first
Great video! Are you going to be doing some ice-driving videos and a video about when to change brake fluid (is there a light on the dash to warn us?) or other things under the bonnet and how? :)
I think I’d rather pull the hand brake up slowly at 15-20mph, rather than putting the car into 1st gear while it’s still moving, I’ve heard you should never do that as you can damage the gear box? You should be stationary when selecting first? I always make a point of doing that while I’m driving. I know this would be like a one off though, so I guess it wouldn’t hurt doing it once
Dual circuit brakes aren't always a diagonal split, some old cars split front to rear, also some front brakes with 4 pot callipers operate both front brakes in a two-pot calliper mode & one rear brake if one circuit loses pressure which is even better than a diagonal split, that's been done by some manufacturers as far back as the sportier BL Mini Metros, so a long time. On cars old enough to only have single circuit brakes (ancient stuff) the minimum handbrake performance requirement for the MOT is significantly higher, from memory 25% rather than 16%. Don't ask me details about how that fancy new electronic brake stuff works though.
I remember years ago when my dad was driving and the car couldn’t stop so he used his gears to break. It was loud and ruined the transmission. Still better than getting hurt though
I would be very interested in if the electronic parking brake uses ABS sensors. Likely not, but you'd hope they would.. In the wet slowing from highspeed would be an interesting experience.. Will definitely have to be careful with steering inputs and correct slides.
My VW actually used ABS breaking as I tested the electic Handbrake. Nice to know - you can even steer and break as a passenger if the driver becomes incapacitated. (Car was a Golf 7, need to confirm that with our new Golf 8 and Passat B8)
I have driven 4 manual cars and they seemed to work fine with only clutch control without gas....only 1 car was there which used to struggle and also stall but others seemed to work fine by using the clutch only at low speeds without gas
Very good video. Not everybody knows a lot about cars so this helps most people. Could it be that the electronic handbrake is so fast because the ecu realizes that the cars is moving and applies the normal brakes aswell? I don't know if this is could be the case or makes sense but it is definitely possible to implement something like this. As a safety measure I mean;)
@@ConquerDriving this was just an assumption i have no idea if it's actually true so don't rely on this idea. I just meant it could be possible. But if the hydraulic brakes fail it would be stopping slower for sure if it really is like that^^
@@ConquerDriving That's what i found only about this topic in an article: "But, since electronic parking break is controlled by a computer, it will not lock the rear wheels regardless of your enthusiasm. One of two things might happen - nothing or it will work as a very strong push on the brake pedal. No locking wheels due to ABS. For your own safety, of course." source: www.technology.org/2018/10/26/what-would-happen-if-you-engaged-electronic-parking-brake-while-driving/
That's very helpful but in some situations it wouldn't stop the car fast enough to avoid an accident. Yesterday I had a complete brake failure on a KIA Ceed Diesel (2019) 5 door hatchback, the brake pedal went very 'hard' with very little braking power. I narrowly avoided a major head-on smash at a roundabout. I will not drive this vehicle ever again, even if it is repaired, as I regard it as a death trap, and it could put you in jail for a long time also.
@@ConquerDriving Thank you. This is a business car used as a taxi. We are going to claim full compensation from Kia Motors or our insurance company, depending on how this goes. Either way this car is a write-off, only of scrap value. No technician's guarantee of safety will make me drive this car - it would be criminally irresponsible and place other road users in great danger. This model of car may become uninsurable and banned from usage as a taxi across Britain, as we are going to inform the authorities. It is a death trap. Had I taken a different route I and my passengers could have been dead tonite.
lost all brakes just weeks after passing a test, on a fairly new car as well. Luckily there was no traffic on the oncoming lane ,so just swerved into that lane, otherwise would have ended up hitting someones rear!
But it only did a tiny bit at their end so the ABS wouldn't have had time to react. I should have tried it from 60mph without releasing it at all to see what would happen.
Our brakes failed on the motorway three days after this video was uploaded. Thank you so much. Please people remember to keep calm if this happens to you
Wow, that was good timing.
Same, the servo failed, and the electronic handbrake did not work
In VW, the electonic handbrake when held, acts as an emergency brake and brakes as hard as it can. (I tested it on the snow and ice, and the ABS is fully on and the car brakes as hard as it can.) I had to drive on the hard shoulder while gearing down..
@@ConquerDriving you're really saving lives! Nice job mate, cheers from America!
Now this is something every driver must know. Great video mate.
Thank you.
@@ConquerDriving You're welcome.
@Ferdinand Vanko I agree, engine breaking is common knowledge.
I mean this might be helpfull for starting drivers but like they say this is basic for someone that drives for a couple days tbh
The stuff they don’t teach you in driving lessons. Terrific video.
Thank you.
@@ConquerDriving Thank You for the video, it really saved my life.
I learned about engine breaking in my lessons in 80's UK, surely they teach you this in lessons today ?
@@memethycal4925 really?
@@LuffyToons my vw brakes failed, thankfully i stopped it.
3 years later, this happened to me in my seat ibiza and I went for the brakes, the brakes don't work. I was going about 35 mph and this video really helped! Thanks! Old videos really do help still.
Forgot to mention the necessity for a fresh pair of underwear after having the brakes fail.
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Ha🤣
Lol...better pray to not crash..
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Imagine someone watching this in their car after the brakes fail and trying to slow down
Might be
Nah..
They must be driving on the runway from Fast & Furious 6
@Zach Hansen Terry lol
Think all that does is create a bigger problem lol
I'm a lorry driver and I always tell people when learning to drive to learn how to stop without using your brakes and find the right revs to change gear without your clutch but everytime I have to show them its possible before they believe me but your advise is amzing and i have shared it on Facebook asking people to watch it who don't already know the lifes that could be saved if everyone was taught it when learning to drive in the first place but this video is idoit proof so hats off to you for making a brilliant video
Thank you, you may also be interested in my heel and toe video for rev matching: th-cam.com/video/-RnPUq2yut4/w-d-xo.html
i learnt to float gears for fun in my car but ive always known it as a rally racing technique, ive never understood why lorry drivers always do it
As with any problem behind the wheel,simply close both eyes,because if you can't see it,it can't hurt you.This system is infallible,it has not let me down in 50 years.Many thanks to my instructors.
6:37 yes and don't forget to dump the clutch and countersteer
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You are simply the best I've come across on TH-cam.
I started freaking out over break failure after I seen a video of a lotus loosing breaks when hit in there rear so I started watching videos how to stop. So. I feel better seeing this video. Thanks much. I appreciate it.
I've seen that video. It's not usually for that to happen. I used to own a VX220 which is very similar to that car, I'm guessing it's because it's old and delicate. Mine was so I ended up replacing many components to keep it fresh.
Modern cars usually have very safe and reliable brakes, but everyone should know about this video just in case.
I agree ☺️
There's no better way to do it just like this guy. You're one of a kind and how you actually know what we would need to know. Thank you very much. Cheers
Thank you and you're welcome.
I appreciate ur detail explanation quality. There r many platforms on TH-cam here in India. Driving in India is a bit complicated. But ur quality of explanation is excellent than Indian platform on car driving in TH-cam. 👍👍
I wish I could have like you as my driving instructor.
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Only respect from me. What you are doing is just amazing. Keep doing it, so you can help more and more new drivers. Even experienced ones.
Thank you
This has to be the only video on TH-cam that fully details the e-brake in emergency situations. I could not find another. This is valuable information. I was never taught this. 👌✌
Really informative video, here is a bit note for myself.
Rough guide, for petrol manual car, first gear can handle around 25, second 50 and third 75 miles per hour, choose the right gear, raise the clutch and hold on the bite point, come off the clutch, then keep change gear to slow the car gradually until the first gear, when the car slow enough, push the clutch in and use handbrake to stop the car.
For automatic car, choose neutral, or L if they have.
For use handbrake alone, push the clutch in, press and hold the button while lift up the handbrake.
Best to combine the gear with the handbrake. 50 miles per hour. Clutch in, change to second gear, bring the clutch to the bite point and use the handbrake; when the speed slow enough, put down the handbrake, clutch in, change to first gear, bring the clutch to the bite point and use the handbrake, clutch in before stop.
For e-break, press and hold the button.
Thank you Richard. I like your style of demonstration and experience. I m learning most of the techniques from your videos and practising on my tata nano.
Thank you, I'm happy to hear you like the videos.
How to stop a car if your brakes fail??
Answer: *JUST USE THE OTHER BRAKES*
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Or...or...JUST HOLD THE HAND BRAKE
@@ConquerDriving just put it in reverse and make a smoke show
@@jackvanepps7301 I like the way you think
Or in the world of top gear borrow someone else’s.
This was actually very very good advice.
Thank you.
I love the way you explain everything. I have seen most of your videos which are very informative and life saving. Keep it up
lots of love from INDIA
Hello Conquer driving
Passed my test today with 1 minor only
Just wanted to give you a big thanks from my heart for helping out with your awesome videos and tips
You're awesome mate and I pray to God to give you million million subscribers because of your awesome content.
-Nikhil
Congratulations! Thank you for your kind words. Good luck 🤞
CD: " choose the lowest gear"
Me: R
That would cause damage without much slowing down affect.
Bruh why select Race gear? You only select that after 5/6
@@reedman0780 yeah my bad I forgot R stands for racing 😓
i tested that once, even with the clutch in its impossible to change into reverse while moving as the engagement rings are spinning in opposite directions, just grinds, if you could somehow get it into gear tho youd certainly stop quickly
@@lucywucyyy lmao wtf , don't do it man take care
Good driver. Using the clutch to stop and not dumping the clutch and causing major driveline shock and upsetting the balance of the car. Very smoothly executed.
Thank you. You may be interested in my rev matching/heel and toe video.
@@ConquerDrivingI definitely need to learn how to heel toe. I struggle with heel toe with my huge clown feet 🤣
I am a learner and thought brake failure was certain doom lol. Obviously not . I know about engine braking at much lower speeds as I have done it in lessons, but this seems to be something they'll not be teaching me in lessons lol. It is something every driver needs to know though so I don't see why not. Learners should get at least one emergency scenario per so many lessons really, one dealing with failed brakes should be top of the list. It's this kind of thing that saves lives, thank you for this video x
Thank you and you're welcome.
@@ConquerDriving This is something you shouldn't ever face if you maintain your car properly and keep up with regular services. However accidents happen, so this video was very informative, thank you x
Underrated gold
This has somehow changed my opinion on electronic handbrakes. I never thought I would see the day
Could be lifesaving, thanks for the video
You're welcome.
Most underrated channel 👏👏👏
Thank you ☺
Glad I found this video I was going 80mph and couldn’t stop. Thx a lot 🤙
I hope you watched it before you couldn't stop. 😅
I knew the theory but excellent to see it put into practice and explained properly as well.
Thank you.
You should always keep trying the service brake with whatever foot is free. Compartmentalized hydraulic systems mean even with a leak in one circuit, your service brakes will still have some function, and it is usually more than what a parking brake alone can provide.
Complete and total brake failures are exceedingly rare. Your parking brake is not meant to stop the car. It's a parking brake.
Very slow leaks cause the pedal to become spongy and trigger the brake system idiot light, so you'll have plenty of warning before you completely lose your fluid.
You are correct. Most modern electronic parking brake systems threshold brake in that "panic stop mode" triggered by holding the switch by taking input from wheel speed sensors. ABS effectively, and so are able to stop faster than most people can by modulating a manual parking brake because they can apply a lot more force than your average person, and much more precisely.
these videos are amazing, so clear and comprehensive. great work :)
Thank you.
you might wanna double declutch into first. In all seriousness, this was a very great and helpfull video, and everyone should just be mandated to watch it before they get their drivers license
What a banger video!
Losing focus due to panic is real.
I once got brake malfunction while stopping at a traffic light.
Even at 5kmh, my only thought was to stop my tyre with the raised sidewalks
I didnt think at all about using handbrakes
Great video! I hope it will remind me better next time
one very critical thing you forgot is pumping the brakes! your cars regular brakes are better than the parking brake or engine braking, so you should try to get those working first. As you said, most braking problems are due to the hydrolic system and sometimes air bubbles in that system can make your brakes fail! pumping the brakes can compress the air bubble in your system and get your brakes back for a while. the other things you talked about are very important too, but you should always try pumping the brakes first!
Yes, I did forget that and realised after. But I made this video with the assumption that your hydraulics have completely gone, not just air.
@@ConquerDriving ah, I see. Sorry for the bother.
Thats a good advice from u for all drivers! The thing is all new cars have 2 circles off the hydraulic brake fluid most X (front left + rear right...)
So u have minimum 30% of normal breaking so u mostly not need to do that. 😛
I did mention that a the end of the video. You could lose your master cylinder which would cause complete brake failure. But the handbrake would still work.
@@ConquerDriving didnt mentioned that thats right! 👍
Now that Fiat hand brake is what I can call an emergency brake!
Also, didn't know hydraulic braking system was split into two like that.
Very helpful!
I don't know if it's always been split. But has been for a long time.
@@ConquerDriving atleast since the mid late 90s on most things
Saabs have had diagonally split brakes since 1963. Apparently in the US they made it compulsory already in 1967.
I think this should be included in the theory side of learning for sure
I was in a car where the brakes failed coming up to a roundabout, car was coming from the left, handbrake wasn't doing enough, had to pull really hard to be able to just merge behind him, that's when the cable snapped, that was scary! remember trying to act like it was OK to my my partner, brought it down to first and turned on hazards, pulled into a quiet side street with a very gentle incline and rolled it into a parking spot in neutral, let it bump the kerb gently and then caught it in first with the clutch and turned the engine off while bringing the clutch up completely to hold it, probably the most complicated stop I ever had to perform, had I panicked about having no brakes at all the situation could have been much worse. Still don't know what caused the brakes to fail suddenly and the timing wasn't good, just about immediately assessing your options and letting other road users know something is wrong. But if you keep calm, you can stop a car with no brakes at all, everyone should know how to do this! Glad I knew the roads well enough to plan a safe stop using the terrain to help and that it was a manual, not sure how you'd stop an automatic in similar situation other than coasting on level ground in neutral, but fortunately the chances of losing your brakes are very low and the chances of losing the hand brake as well are even lower, I am just apparently very lucky, unfortunately it's all bad luck! BUt no one was hurt ad it was a smooth stop!
Well done! Sounds a little scary.
Haven't watched the vid yet but my brakes recently failed at 60mph downhill. My instinct was to throw on hazards, shift into second and pull to the side. The brakes were working but were spongey and didn't slow the car down much, so I used the handbrake to come to a complete stop. Not sure what the correct way is to do it but that worked for me.
If your brakes are spongy, pump them then they should work. Should have mentioned that in the video.
Nice explanation bro!
I think there are some E-handbrakes are using ABS, depending on the vehicle. It could certainlybeusing tbe sa.e system as the brake pedal, with drive-by-wire. There is a great video of someone testing different handbrakes - garage 54 engage electronic handbrake at speed
Great video on a topic I didn't even think to know about!
May help you one day.
What an excellent video and demonstration, will point this out to the up and coming drivers in my family. Keep up the good work young man.
Guys.. cars with electronic hand brake you can Push that button and it will brake just like the normal brake because it has abs too and doesn’t lock the rear wheel
This is not true with the car I was using. It only used the rear brakes.
I was never thought this during driver school, really useful video!:)
Thank you ☺
Really appreciate sharing this video man
This is a reoccurring dream of mine
Some electric parking brakes use the hydraulics as well tho, even are connected to the ABS, i remember some VAG cars using that, my Q2 for sure did. Which, nicely said, sucks in this situation.
Ahh, that sucks in this situation. I've not been in a car yet where I don't hear the whir of the electronic actuator.
Been there before in probably a near worst case scenario (excluding weather).
2.2 Ton Automatic people carrier, manual foot-operated handbrake (hand lever release), down hill to a roundabout with a hydraulic fluid leak.
Pressed the pedal and my foot kept moving to the floor (maybe 2-3s cycle time)
I had to shift down manually in the auto as far as it would let me, hold the lever-release, press the foot-operated handbrake (which was essentially useless but made me feel better) with one foot whilst pumping the normal pedal with the other. Every now and then using my elbow to knock it down another gear. All the while steering and trying to judge my distance and options for potential evasion.
Luckily the car at the roundabout pulled away before I got there and the traffic was clear then so I was able to continue through the junction to the street ahead (outside my work carpark as it happens) and coast to a halt using the now uphill street.
Really good tutor. Thank for this valuable information.
Thank you ☺
@@ConquerDriving yuh an yuh family kip safe, ahrite.
I wish Ken Miles used Engine braking .
😞😭
Bruh who cares
@@nic_the_grekk0262 You haven't seen the movie yet I assume so I don't even expect u to care.
CarmeloPorium true. The movie was a bit incorrect though. It was actually his transmission locking up in real life. But regardless I loved the movie!
Excellent, thanks for the lab and demostration.
The best thing you can do when break fails is to “do not panic”
Yes, very true.
Conquer Driving OMG! My comment was got noticed. PIN my comment please. LOL
Realize this happend in 200km:):):)
Thanks for that really helpful advice hopefully will never have to deal with something like that
Let's hope 🤞
Some cars have the disadvantage (advantage?) of not being able to downshift to 1st gear, while going over certain speed. For example, on my 2001 golf, the lever doesn't go into 1st, unless I go less than 30km/h (20mph).
That's because switching to first at speed puts a lot of strain on the synchromesh, it will go in if you push firmly for long enough. Don't ram it, pressure it.
Rev match
if you rev match you can easily shift into first.
I once watched a video and someone said they put their Autobox in reverse since their brakes failed. It came to a screeching stop in no time. In cars, at least 2005 and newer, there’s a failsafe that doesn’t engage reverse until like 10mph. If your car is older than 2005, use Reverse to come to a halt!
also when you go into first it’s probably a good idea tap the gas so it actually goes in gear properly
With the electronic hand brake it relies on your traction control system and your abs. It should catch a skid quickly but wouldnt bet on it
I hope so.
Lets get to the Fun Part now, your breaks are Hydraulic so is the Clutch in cars newer than 2008. If the break system fails and both of the Break Circuits don't work anymore it has to be a Hydraulic Issue and your Clutch isn't working either.
But dont worry, you can shift into Neutral without a clutch and there won't be any damage. Now that your car is in Neutral all you have to do is using the Handbreak.
If you have an electrical Break just hold the buttons for a few seconds, the wheels will not lock.
If you have the old school one, just pull it like the video said.
If im Wrong, feel free to correct me.
It does all depend on the design of the system. Some cars like the Fiat 500 have a separate clutch fluid reservoir to brake fluid.
@@ConquerDriving Oh really? Ok, thats cool. On my Renault the Transmission Cyclinder broke down and the breaks were gone as well cause they shared the same Reservoir
Good lesson there. An important n life saving skill right there!
Thank you.
this may save my life eventually
10:26 The Parking Brake if automatic will brake with 75% Brake Force (ABS is activated) until 7km/h where it will activate the parking brake. Also the brake light comes on and on VW it activates the Warning Light. (RTFM) So you could do it even on ice.
Good to know.
I'd recommend rev- matching just push the gas a bit. It helps not burning the Clutch.
I have a video on that but lack of revs will help engine braking a bit more: th-cam.com/video/-RnPUq2yut4/w-d-xo.html
Great advice from you man,Thank you so much indeed for the second option control💖🙏💖
Thank you and you're welcome.
Hmm, I have a cvt transmission car. So in case of brake failure, I'll shift into L gear and progressively increasing the handbrake pressure to slow down. Ok, now I got it. Thank you very much for the video. 👍
You're welcome
In 1969, right after I had my car license about a month (I was 16 years old), the master cylinder on my friend's car got a hole in it on a very steep hill near his house. His car was a standard. First gear downhill only got me down to about 25 MPH with a VERY sharp curve (a right turn) ahead of me , just two lanes, no shoulders and lots of traffic. My choice: REVERSE. I left parts for a half block on the road, but I got it stopped with no parking brake and no service brakes and without hitting anything. A clutch plate and throw-out bearing was the cheapest options I had and the right choice. An entire transmission would have been better than eating a tree or lightpole or oncoming car at 25 MPH. I ended up sitting still in a church parking lot unhurt, no one else hurt either, counting my fingers and toes. Can't do much better than that.
Good choice, well done for saving the car.
From what I saw in your video, it seems to me that car computer decide to use all 4 breaks to stop you if you pull electronic handbrake while you have significant speed. Look how your front end dives down when stopping; it would not if only rear wheel breaks are activated.
Thanks Richard
thanks man!!!
I'd like to share my friend's experience, maybe that also helps someone. She was in the city, and coming to a traffic light on a fast road. And all breaks broke (I forgot what was the reason they've diagnosed later why neither regular nor handbrake didn't work), she did engine break and then went into the curb to slow her to full stop. However DO NOT go to the curb in higer than those 5ish miles from the first gear, because you might end up on the roof :/
I brought a car with really worn out breaks and taking the car to get fixed tomorrow so just here seeing if i could use the breakpads less till i get there lol
Just some additional advise. Before assuming your brakes have failed try pressing on the brake peddle really hard. You're more likely to loose your brake booster than a complete brake failure so just check that first
That too. Also, pump the brakes if they're spongy.
A lot of Citroën cars had them, the reasons having something to do with the hydropneumatic trailing suspension and rear trailing arms.
I knew there were some Citroëns from a long time again but I didn't know why. Now I do, thank you.
saabs as late as the 90s had front wheel handbrakes too, not sure why tho
Great video! Are you going to be doing some ice-driving videos and a video about when to change brake fluid (is there a light on the dash to warn us?) or other things under the bonnet and how? :)
Thank you for your good video !
I think I’d rather pull the hand brake up slowly at 15-20mph, rather than putting the car into 1st gear while it’s still moving, I’ve heard you should never do that as you can damage the gear box? You should be stationary when selecting first? I always make a point of doing that while I’m driving.
I know this would be like a one off though, so I guess it wouldn’t hurt doing it once
You'd have to do it regularly for it to wear the synchromesh.
Dual circuit brakes aren't always a diagonal split, some old cars split front to rear, also some front brakes with 4 pot callipers operate both front brakes in a two-pot calliper mode & one rear brake if one circuit loses pressure which is even better than a diagonal split, that's been done by some manufacturers as far back as the sportier BL Mini Metros, so a long time.
On cars old enough to only have single circuit brakes (ancient stuff) the minimum handbrake performance requirement for the MOT is significantly higher, from memory 25% rather than 16%.
Don't ask me details about how that fancy new electronic brake stuff works though.
You are right. I think the latest stuff if a 4 way split after the ABS pump but 2 lines before the pump.
I remember years ago when my dad was driving and the car couldn’t stop so he used his gears to break. It was loud and ruined the transmission. Still better than getting hurt though
The Citreon C5 (90ies and 2000 car and some other) have the handbrake to the front!
That's right, I believe they do.
6:05 yeah, thats like the entire point
I would be very interested in if the electronic parking brake uses ABS sensors.
Likely not, but you'd hope they would.. In the wet slowing from highspeed would be an interesting experience.. Will definitely have to be careful with steering inputs and correct slides.
Even if it did used the ABS sensor the electronic actuator is slow to adjust brake pressure.
Thanks a lot! That was a very nice video.
You're welcome.
My VW actually used ABS breaking as I tested the electic Handbrake. Nice to know - you can even steer and break as a passenger if the driver becomes incapacitated. (Car was a Golf 7, need to confirm that with our new Golf 8 and Passat B8)
Good to know
Extremely good information
Thank you.
08:18 combination of engine braking and handbrake
Not many people know that You can also open the door, put one of your feets out and keep touching the road with your foot to slow the car down.
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I have driven 4 manual cars and they seemed to work fine with only clutch control without gas....only 1 car was there which used to struggle and also stall but others seemed to work fine by using the clutch only at low speeds without gas
A lot do struggle, definitely need to teach people gas control skill.
Something they never teach you. This may come in handy one day, thanks!
You're welcome
Or its just common sense?
Great information
Kind of obvious but for those having no understanding how a car works it should be a good help
So, dual circuit brakes works diagonaly? I thought it works like front separate and rear seperate.
Very good video. Not everybody knows a lot about cars so this helps most people.
Could it be that the electronic handbrake is so fast because the ecu realizes that the cars is moving and applies the normal brakes aswell?
I don't know if this is could be the case or makes sense but it is definitely possible to implement something like this. As a safety measure I mean;)
Thank you. It appears all systems are different, so it comes down to the manufacturer.
@@ConquerDriving this was just an assumption i have no idea if it's actually true so don't rely on this idea. I just meant it could be possible. But if the hydraulic brakes fail it would be stopping slower for sure if it really is like that^^
@@ConquerDriving That's what i found only about this topic in an article:
"But, since electronic parking break is controlled by a computer, it will not lock the rear wheels regardless of your enthusiasm. One of two things might happen - nothing or it will work as a very strong push on the brake pedal. No locking wheels due to ABS. For your own safety, of course."
source: www.technology.org/2018/10/26/what-would-happen-if-you-engaged-electronic-parking-brake-while-driving/
That's very helpful but in some situations it wouldn't stop the car fast enough to avoid an accident. Yesterday I had a complete brake failure on a KIA Ceed Diesel (2019) 5 door hatchback, the brake pedal went very 'hard' with very little braking power. I narrowly avoided a major head-on smash at a roundabout. I will not drive this vehicle ever again, even if it is repaired, as I regard it as a death trap, and it could put you in jail for a long time also.
I'm sorry to hear that, it's good to hear you are OK.
@@ConquerDriving Thank you. This is a business car used as a taxi. We are going to claim full compensation from Kia Motors or our insurance company, depending on how this goes. Either way this car is a write-off, only of scrap value. No technician's guarantee of safety will make me drive this car - it would be criminally irresponsible and place other road users in great danger. This model of car may become uninsurable and banned from usage as a taxi across Britain, as we are going to inform the authorities. It is a death trap. Had I taken a different route I and my passengers could have been dead tonite.
In Land Rover Defenders (possibly other models as well but I'm not sure), the handbrake is connected to the prop shaft, not the brakes.
I didn't know that.
@@ConquerDriving You learn something new every day I guess!
lost all brakes just weeks after passing a test, on a fairly new car as well. Luckily there was no traffic on the oncoming lane ,so just swerved into that lane, otherwise would have ended up hitting someones rear!
If you said the rear wheel skidded when you used the electronic hand break, that would mean the ABS isn't built into the parking break system.
But it only did a tiny bit at their end so the ABS wouldn't have had time to react. I should have tried it from 60mph without releasing it at all to see what would happen.