Are We Headed Towards Population Collapse?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
- With every passing year, more and more couples who call themselves “DINKS” are opting to skip having kids in order to simply enjoy each other’s company and spend their time, how THEY want. But is there a broader question to consider beyond our personal desires? The grim reality we're hurtling towards isn’t overpopulation… Underpopulation due to plummeting birth and fertility rates is the new nightmare lurking in the shadows.
Joining me today are my friends Malcolm and Simone who are the hosts of the Based Camp Podcast and are working on the cutting edge of the pro Natalist movement @SimoneandMalcolm
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As a 33yo male from the midwest that wants to have a whole horde of children, watching what my mom did to my dad in "family" court and losing almost everything I had fighting my daughter's mom in court, I'm terrified to even date because fathers aren't valued anymore.
There's a way around this and to escape with only getting off with child support. Marriage is still worth it, you just have to plan accordingly.
Dang, that's horrible. I hope things improve for you.
you already have kids.... some of us midwestern men aren't even sexually viable to others
So thats stupid. It sucks you expereinced that on average what you went through is not the norm
@@raymond_rntsimply untrue wdym? Lay if those red pills my guu
Salary: Not even nearly enough to live on
Food: Can't afford to buy it
Rent: no one can pay it
The Government: Doing nothing about it
People: 'wHy aRen'T tHeY hAvInG bAbIeS?!'
Are you from India or something?
@@gringo6362 This is a problem almost worldwide.
@@kevinsouza7744 you are saying people from 1st world cant afford anything of that?
@@gringo6362 Do you not know how many people live paycheck to paycheck in the US? And many other first world countries? When you see houses going for half a million USD on the low end and childcare costing 2K a month you will understand.
I don’t know.. when you see grown ass men working at Starbucks, demanding a living wage.. but won’t turn the advanced orders on because it’s too hard when it gets too busy.. you start to think maybe it’s the individual or even this generation that doesn’t have a full grasp on really what it takes..
I'm genuinely happy that someone like you is on youtube.
Thanks from Switzerland.
Is all this woke stuff happening over there ?
@@EyedMite i cannot speak for switzerland, but I live in Germany, specifically munich and i will say that no, there definitely is some woke bs happening here, but not close to the same level as what I see in the US, plus most the people/corporations pushing for it, are US based ones
@@EyedMite what opinions would you say are woke and what is wokenes
@@EyedMite not really , actually pretty good life in there
im from lucerne
I don't want to have a child because I can't finance it. It is the sad truth, I simply can't.
That’s very mature of you, because I’ve noticed it’s always the most broke people in my life having kids (especially trailer trash)
@@mikufan7311 This is why I loved Idiocracy so much. The stupid people will continue to fart out hellspawn.
It's the first time in history that people are not having kids because they feel like they don't have enough money. People always had kids, no matter the circumstances. Something is extremely wrong in our modern society.
@@skylinefever And who is deciding what is intelligent and what is not? You? Isn't it rather a sign of stupidity NOT to make kids at all? Just think about it.
@@kape2469 Well, back in the feudal era, the serfs had plenty of kids. The feudal lords loved it. Now masses don't want to doom potential kids to serfdom.
Well, would you look at that. An exploration of concepts and ideals that doesn't involve name-calling or insults, and actually is able to both stay on topic and further expound on it productively. We need more of these discussions.
Thank you! We are the couple being interviewed in this and Anti-Prophet is an amazing interviewer.
@@SimoneandMalcolm It's a breath of fresh air to see an interview/discussion that isn't trying to be condescending to the 2 sides of the argument it tries to break down, while also acknowledging both sides' pros and cons. ;)
Amazing
As a single guy in the West nearing his 30s with no special skills or degrees, the prospect of being able to afford children, or even buy property on which to raise those children, seems completely unattainable, even if I were to find the right partner to do so.
I work a simple job, part time. I don't feel motivated enough to work more than that. Why exert myself when the pay won't add that much quality of life, a d will not make much difference in terms of bigger life goals?
On top of that, low-end jobs are just not all that respected by a lot of members of the opposite sex.
If these factors were no issue, I'd probably plan to have 4-5 children, who knows, maybe even more. I'd love to have kids, but it really seems like society is set up to discourage people from doing so.
I'm in a similar spot. It's difficult to justify kids if you're doing poor financially. I guess if there was more financial aid for parents more people would take the opportunity (kinda obvious). I also don't meet a lot of people and don't come across anyone who would be date-able I'd have to make some big changes in my lifestyle to have any chances but I'm not really motivated anymore.
Why have you not applied yourself any further than your circumstances? Why are you settling to be of no use to society? What are you doing with yourself you sound so unmotivated and couldn’t fathom as a man how you go about your life like this
Kids motivate you to do thing that you woudn't do for yourself. There is a saying, when baby is born mother is born and it relates to fathers too. We don't have to be perfect to be parent. Anyway, I am last person who would convince anybody to have kids. I just wanted to say - you shoudn't be that worry because if you make this decision, you will manage to raise them and keep them loved and safe
bro learn some skills, what are you waiting for?
As the guy in the video you are 100% correct. I am always shocked when people are like. This can not possibly be a problem at the scale you are painting it while also literally not having but five acquaintances that can afford to have kids.
a decade ago conspiracy theorists who talked about the agenda of depopulation were scrutinized. Now it's a problem. This is when theory becomes reality.
Depopulation is a consipracy theory. Because countries in africa are still making pleanty of children.
What he is talking about is the affect of various things. A big one is education.
Getting higher education requires you to go to college which is hard to do with children. Not to mention the cost of child care. As well as there is more to experience
@@xMckingwillwake up
@@Minacious_Shenanigans whatever you say 🤷♂️
It's worth noting, that while the global population may be growing at a slower rate, it’s still increasing. According to the United Nations, the world’s population is projected to reach 9.7 billion by 2050. According to the United Nations, the world’s population is projected to reach 9.7 billion by 2050. The current population in 2024 is approximately 8.1 billion, which is an increase of 70,000,000 people from 2022.
Depopulation is not a conspiracy theory. It has been an explicity and stated goal of many NGOs for decades. (I am the guy from the video.)
As 46 year old man who waited till 38 to have a kid. Being able to do “what you want” is great to a point… once you hit middle age… it gets old as you do. You don’t want to be the old guy in the club… and don’t underestimate the joy kids bring… imagine being the most in love you’ve ever been in your life… but take out all the physical thoughts that went along with that feeling. You’re left with the purest love you’ll ever feel… and when you’re old, grey and longing your youth, you have your kids to keep you connected to what that was.
well put! thanks for sharing
This is the most sincere and hopeful thing I've ever read ❤
I’m 35 and lots of Gen Z friends invite me to parties and all I ever think is why am I even here why was I invited I should’ve had kids to take care of right now
No you are wrong. Kids don't owe you love or guarantee connection. And If you are 46 and still want to go to the clubs you are disconnected from your own body needs and reality. I enjoy life in solitude I have my Sign other and we spend the time together. And if you people think that when you have kids will love you or take care of you when you are old because they owe you that . That is the first sign that you should not have children. True love is giving without expecting emotional or physical gratification.
"i enjoy life in solitude". well, maybe because it's a text based speech without body language but you kinda sounds bitter dude.
I've always wanted a big family. 4 or 5 kids, round about that. Same with my wife. We've recently discovered that we can afford to provide for 2 at most. I earn a bit over $100k. My wife was the same before going part-time to look after the kids. Anymore mouths to feed, and I can't afford mortgage repayments. The problem is not just people's attitudes to kids. It's also the economy
Exactly. That’s how it should be. Your two kids get a high-quality of life instead of having four or five kids that have to struggle and go without. Everybody bringing kids into the world should be responsible in the way you are instead of all the broke people just having kids they can’t afford.
When i was in my 20s i was wreckless with myself and money. When i found out i was going to be a father at 25 something snapped. I changed many terrible bahaviors and spending habits and changed it all around. Fought harder for more pay and a better job. Now i have 2 kids and i can support them under my one income with a stay at home wife.
Happened to my friend was on dope then boom kid and turned around
I languished in dope life for years because I don’t have kids and not for lack of trying
My son changed my life as well. At best it's a new lease on life.
Literally everyone's dream
Hi. Millennial here. I had my one and only daughter when I was very young and I can tell you exactly why this is happening, at least in the United States.
Our lives have become unbearably expensive and stressful and that has translated into children being a burden that people don’t want to bear. You need two incomes in order live comfortably. If you do this and then have kids, your life becomes nothing but work and taking care of your children. Not only that, but the expenses surrounding those children and the number of things you have to be concerned about and worried about it ridiculous.
If you look at periods of time when people had a lot of children. Let’s say the 1950s, for example. The husband would work (almost any job). That would provide enough for a house for their family, where their wife would stay home and take care of those kids. This allowed for both the security of stable housing and allowed free time for both the father and the mother.
If we look at today, you have both parents working, school schedules that don’t align with work schedules, an insane amount of money for child care to remedy the schedule issue, even more time commitment to support this lifestyle, zero free time for either parent, renting and the constant fear of layoff and housing insecurity, etc.
In short, this is why almost none of us are having kids. The fact that the governments of the world allow us all to be forced into this hellscape of an existence and then continue to insist that we have children, is exactly why our population will collapse. The cherry on top of this is that most of us know this. It’s a giant middle finger to the upper class that has pushed us to the breaking point.
I'm going to push back a little. Me and my husband used to live up north, and now live further south. We both worked until we had a child, because he is special needs. We are able to live on one income even with all the therapies etc. Many mom's I know with special needs kids don't work as well. I know every situation is different, but it is possible, and I know many millennials in the area who make a good living.
@lawjikgaming Very well said!
You get the big picture. I agree with you 💯.
I like the ending you understand that by having a child, and Issuing a SSN you create a Surety for the National Debt.
Here in Europe we have way more generous work environments and social safety nets and yet we still don't have healthy demographics.. it is the culture itself that needs reformation
As someone with a long family history of cancer I don't really want to pass my genens on away.
That's fine, I often joke that I won't breed and I won't pollute the gene pool.
Then you can adopt
@@BinaryDreams-xq7zs why would someone waste their resources to raise someone else's kid
@@BinaryDreams-xq7zstheir lifespan will be so reduced, will they be able to even care for the child throughout their entire life? Raising offspring doesnt stop at 18 these days. Why adopt a child just to die on them?
That’s smart and you’re a very selfless person for doing that. Lots of kids out there that need adoption too!
I don’t want to have kids because of my mental shit. And don’t have the money for that.
video might be for you
SAME BRO SAME, like i might be able to financially provide for myself but cant provide for partner and kids
Growing up, my mom constantly told me how much I was a burden and a detriment to her career and pursuits.
Now I don't want to have kids because I don't want to be burdened the way she said I was.
Finally! Soneone who gets it.
I am 20 years old and I honestly think that at least a part of Gen Z which isn't just an emotional dumpster fire might be able to fix this issue.
The majority of the population of my home country is mostly elderly people, but once they have all passed away there are millions of new homes. The main factor why many millennials aren't interested in having families is simply that they can't afford a house or big enough apartment.
Nobody wants to have children in a shared flat or in a small single apartment.
I agree and the evidence for this is that the people who do want to have kids aren't having kids until their early 30s nowadays rather than early 20s like previous generations did. This is because they can't afford to own a house and provide for kids until they're in their 30s.
As the guy in the video we have run models on this. Yes the real-estate market will eventually crash but it is going to look more like Detroit (rotting buildings stripped of all their copper) than a utopia of cheap nice real-estate.
@@SimoneandMalcolm We're all f*cked.
Sounds awful but I remember thinking that COVID was good for you know..being the natural determiner for older people. The first man in the UK to get the first vaccine died of old age like 8 months later and no-one talked about how futile that was 😞
Even if the housing markets crash what makes you think you’ll be able to buy the boomers and gen x’ers homes. Most likely they will be handed off to family or bought by wealth people.
In the 1970's my Mom & Dad adopted my three middle siblings because of the threat of over population. The alarming surge of humans overcoming the planet's resources was a crisis we heard about in school and in the news for years. Now we have more people on earth than predicted in the 1970's, and fears are running in the opposite direction.
Overpopulation is impossible due to advancements in agriculture technology. If we utilise just 50% of the earth's arable land and use modern agriculture technology, we can sustain 40 billion people.
@@zayedbinimran957 Good to know! Can you send me the source of your info? I'd like to tuck that away for future reference. Thanks!
I'll be 30 in November, I'm single, I still live at home with my dad in the Midwest US. I can barely get by rent free, (which I take care of everything but rent and utilities which my dad takes care of). I have student loans, car payment, etc. I make like $50k a year. I was looking for houses in 2022 but stopped looking because 1. I kept getting passed over by cash offers and took a mental toll on me 2. Interest rates soared 3. Most importantly I can't afford a house and have a normal life on one income.
Having children would be impossible for me.
Its a lot of things. 1 . Good luck finding a long term mate that you trust raising kids with. 2. Economics. Who can afford it even if they want to?. 3. Having kids is a hard sacrifice on a level that mist people who want kids have no idea until its too late. People have always been too immature to have kids. One of the biggest problems is people who mess up their kids intentionally or otherwise. 4. The world is messed up showing no signs of getting better. It is more difficult having children because the system is out to destroy your childrens minds before they are old enough to reach puberty.
I don't want to have kids because I don't think what's happening and what's coming is something I'd put a human being through
My wife and I are the only ones in either of our families, as well as extended families, who are parents.
The rest are unhealthy in weight and lifestyle, chemically dependent on SSRIs, unable to manage healthy relationships, and ideologically Malthusian.
Tough to have kids with mentally broken, unreliable people everywhere, post-lockdown.
Anyway, don't you think that having kids keep as sane and motivated? Sometimes we all have bad day but with kids, you must get up and do it anyway ;)
@@baassiia I like this perspective. Maybe kids do keep us psychologically sober.
@@adamc436 Ask Casey Anthony, Andrea Yates, and every other crap mom.
Pfff your joking right
@@silversteel8998 Nope, and I wish it weren’t the case.
I love how they try to shame people by saying they don’t have the emotional intelligence to have kids 😂
They don't try to shame people for choosing not to have kids.
They shame the people that try to make money off of it as shown in the video.
Love that your doing long form content 😌
thank you! Super stoked as well
@@anti.prophetThe tax on childlessness was a natalist policy imposed in the Soviet Union and other Communist countries, starting in the 1940s. Joseph Stalin's regime created the tax in order to encourage adult people to reproduce, thus increasing the number of people and the population of the Soviet Union. The 6% income tax affected men from the age of 25 to 50, and women from 20 to 45 years of age.The tax remained in place until the collapse of the Soviet Union.
@@anti.prophet and Soviet brith rate always 2.3
Smug face emoji? 😅
@@letsgetitbackthat’s not smug face. 😏this is smug face
Daycare needs to be cheaper. It's $1800/month for one kid. I had one. My hospital copay was $10k. We need to lower costs as a community so that our culture continues.
Loving the long form content, watching this one fully.
Long form content is exactly what we need. Really great points a overall an amazing video.
@Anti.prophet love this format of media rather than shorts (they are good too but trying to avoid shorts since they affect attention span). Please keep up the good work and keep producing this form of media 👍
Beautifully done interview, loving the long form content. You always ask really good questions that change how I'm listening to the other person. Keep it up!
This is absolutely god tier!!!
I was thinking just yesterday man I wish I had another long form video and I wake up and here it is
A lot of women I know also don’t want kids because they say this world is full of suffering
It's only excuses. Most women dont want kids because it messes up with their careers, which is understandable.
And those women are 100% right and logical.
Really appreciate seeing the long form well discussed content, and would love to see more about big issues that deserve more than a soundbyte.
Damn. A 36 minute video? Glad to see you stepping more into long form content.
25 now, working on a third kid now! Also love the long length content! Kudos!
I used the be in a dink mentality relationship, then my kid entered the picture. It’s a true blessing that I never ever thought I would be in this situation. It’s beautiful, it’s human.
wait how'd a kid enter a dink relationship? hahah just curious
Im really enjoy your work, your giving in my opinion far more reasonable opinions and views then most extremists the Internet is populated with. Its refreshing
Love this! Your content is always a great conversation starter in our home. Thank you!
Thank you for interviewing us! This episode is great.
Great guests 🤙🏽
Show the same OPEN MINDEDNESS and RESPECT by interviewing That Vegan Teacher, Vegan Gains Richard,
and Amanda Sukenick of Antinatalism International. Let us hear THEIR side of the story.
In my experience, a lot of people don’t want kids because they can’t afford it
The main reason why I do not want children is because they are just too unaffordable. Babies are expensive liabilities.
@@bigfan2452 as a mom of 2, babys really are not as expensive as people think, the government pays child benefit that covers the cost of nappys, wipes, food ect it just when you start buying expensive toys for the kids when they get expensive and you don’t have to do that
@TVDfan890 I live in Canada 🇨🇦 but the child benefit payment is not sufficient for me to own a home, buy car and do many other activities with my children. I cannot afford a mortgage as it is just too expensive.
The child benefit payment is not enough to give my children a vacation.
Buying groceries, clothes and everything else has just become too expensive.
Great Video, love the long format. This has opened new viewpoints to the argument that i would not have thought of
I could listen to this guy talk about populations and fertility rates all day long. He’s brilliant! Love this video! Thank you for speaking on this!
I think the stigma that young parents face in society also contributes to young couples not having children. I believe that the current order of focus on your career first and then transition to family life is the wrong way around. The human body is made to have children young, if society can provide the structure and support to make having children easier and then move towards a career after having children this would have so many benefits both to the population issues as well as to stability in a person's career. No more pausing your career to have children and then hoping you can re-enter the work force at the same place you left it
Millennials: I’m only 36 I wanna get some more life experience and mature a little before having kids I still haven’t finished Pokémon diamond 100% completion
WW2 generation: I’m 17 just got married nice farm on Dakota my pop helped me fix the family plow after we sort out this Hitler fellow I think I’m gonna have 4 kids
Agree with this. People should end education at 17 and there should be a focus on having children from 17 to 25. Also, arranged marriages should be considered. I don't have time at 17 to find a guy but parents have 17 years to be on the look out. Maybe non-love (at the start) relationships are healthier for everyone.
@@EmilyFoxSeaton lmfao nice trolling
I just finished watching, and I really enjoyed the long fontent version.
It's a balance in the states, we need to be able to respect their life decisions but should have a cultural emphasis on family. Dinks should be the exception not the normal.
Why should they be an exception?
Long form content gonna be great from you, love to see it 💜
thank you for being real and not having drama debates
I think this battle of population collapse won’t be won. All our growth up to this point by all metrics has led to this. It was inevitable, a natural part of our journey. We come we grow, we peak and we are now beginning to get to the top of the roller coaster of our human story. Very soon the rollercoaster will begin heading down the slope.
If humans collectively were an individual that individual would be approaching the peak of its career, and now it’s approaching middle age.
Spiritually the systems of society have to collapse (as we currently know it) in order for us to begin the next chapter in humanity which is for INDIVIDUALS to evolve to the greatest level of self awareness, that is the final frontier. We have had tribes, we have had societies, but the true empowerment of the individual can only occur when collective structures break down as we know them.
I do not think this will ever happen
As the guy being interviewed you are 100% correct. But people should be aware of the transition that is coming up and it is mostly being hidden from the public (at least the scope of it).
Population collapse has happened multiple times in human history. Humans always manage to come back out of it. The question is how many have to die before we get back to our feet?
Population collapse is inevitable, however through government and community it can be smoothed out or cause complete chaos.
i’m just trying to figure out why it even matters…like why are we meant to give a shxt if humanity dies out? by the time it happens, all of us reading and writing these comments will be long gone. it literally doesn’t matter.
@@pabloescobarschanclas Pablo Escobar would agree.
Our cities will become senior citizen centers.
Honestly, it will probably be a good thing. People dont realize how many jobs are about to be deleted and consolidated by "AI." Work will primarily become physical labor crafts, caregiving, and DIY prototyping.
If enough caregivers aren't available, the young working class will be taxed into oblivion.
People will move away from unbalanced, inefficiently planned US cities as Starlink-akin constellations provide services to cheaper rural areas. The new AI tech is also part of whats making this move to rural possible, as it is remarkably good at logistical planning and better compression for satellite internet.
I actually think this more focused population in rural areas will lead to higher happiness. I do worry about the outlook the healthcare givers will have on life, i expect them to be the population living in in the suburbs between cities and countryside.
Really great conversation. Thank you for sharing this.
This was a collab I did not expect!
Something to note is that overpopulation benefits the rich, to have limited jobs for a large population means people are willing to work for less. Furthermore CEO’s can pay less. This also increases the demand of the product simply because there’s more people.
A lot of the disadvantages of overpopulation we have commodified, like how crime rates increase with bigger populations thus benefitting the prison industrial complex
Population collapse is a natural response to worsening social conditions and is not because people aren’t “emotionally immature” or “lazy”. If you tell someone they are lazy they will work 10x harder just to prove they are not, if you tell someone they are emotionally immature they will strive harder to be mature to the point they would starve rather than steal food.
Rule of thumb, never trust any message a billionaire agrees with because they found a way to profit off of it
Don’t forget especially how unless you are a single parent or dirt poor, you get barely any support for early child care. Sending our two sons to daycare costs almost as much as our mortgage and car payment. Not only is there no social incentive, they are actively punishing you for having kids especially if you’re on the mid range income bracket.
I enjoy your videos and love the work you are doing. This is a topic I haven’t yet heard.
this is a good video, watch in it's entirety!
@@anti.prophet will do!
@@anti.prophetThe tax on childlessness was a natalist policy imposed in the Soviet Union and other Communist countries, starting in the 1940s. Joseph Stalin's regime created the tax in order to encourage adult people to reproduce, thus increasing the number of people and the population of the Soviet Union. The 6% income tax affected men from the age of 25 to 50, and women from 20 to 45 years of age.The tax remained in place until the collapse of the Soviet Union.
And Soviet brith rate 2.3
Wow! This was crazy insightful and love your guests knowledge and wisdom.
YES. We need more consumption and more people and more consumption and more people and more consumption and more people. We should continue this exponentially to keep this debt financed house of cards from collapsing on itself. It'll last forever! Right? Right!?
Nobody’s saying that. You clearly didn’t watch the video.
33:15
The main reason people are not having kids is because of materialism. So what you said there makes no sense. Literally ask young people who don't want kids on why that is. The most popular answers are:
Cost, money, "not ready mentally" and garbage along those lines.
@@stickjohnny out-of-context cherry-picking.
It’s the rate of the population decline that is problematic, not the decline per se.
It's been a long time since you did a video like this
Love the lady's explanation and perspective.
I am used to the shorts but this debate was really interesting. Good luck AP, I hope this format works out for you
3:34 I wasn’t expecting her to bring it home like that.
I think there is nothing wrong with Dinks. There are many reasons why people decide this lifestyle. Please don’t demonize others choice and free will. Work on convincing people who want to have kids to expand their families.
Honestly you changed my views on this topic. I was expansionist but anti natalist but now I'm pro natalist. Love the arguement!
I’m in the middle. I’m pro-either. I’m pro if you don’t want children don’t have them. If you do want children have them but only if you truly want them and more importantly can afford them. I’m against people having more children than they can afford to give the best life possible. It’s better to have 1 to 2 children if you want children and have more resources and more to put into those children than to have 5 children just because you can and less to go around.
@@tigernotwoods914 yeah same, I'm also really crossing my fingers for artificial wombs. It's in my top 10 technologies for the advancement of human kind.
@@teeeea1741 I am against against artificial wombs. I’m also against IVF and surrogacy and all similar technology. It is in no way a net positive for the advancement of mankind, and in many ways a detriment. Don’t get me wrong as a libertarian. I don’t believe these things should be illegal. People should have the right to do whatever they want if they are consenting adults but I wish the technology didn’t exist and I believe it’s such a waste. I’m not against these things for the reasons people think though. The main reason I’m against these things is because if you have it in fertile couple or a gay couple or whatever the situation is that they can’t reproduce but they can use surrogacy or IVF or artificial womb or whatever the technology is it exacerbates the other problem. That is we always have and we always will have either unwanted children or children due to other circumstances that need parents and need families. I don’t think that problem will ever disappear. if you didn’t have this technology for those folks to turn to then adoption would be the only way they can have children. Now you have actual children already here that families getting families because it’s the only option, and now they become wanted children. That would be the net positive for the advancement of society. Not to mention all the research being wasted on this technology could go to something important like caring, cancer or eradicatingdiseases or something that’s actually beneficial
Wow, as the guy in the video than you!
@@tigernotwoods914I’m complete opposite I believe that the real move is to embrace Chad procreation and just have a bunch of children you can’t afford
It’s the way to be different now and do your part
Great long form content mate, keep up the hard mahi- from the West Coast of Aotearoa NZ
As a Jew, who lives in Israel, it’s a cultural standard to have kids and I’m only 18 and I can’t wait to have a wife and kids and a nice beautiful family
Shalom blessed of God
We (the people being itnervied) always point to Israel as the only country in the world that seems to have this figured out.
From what I gathered Jews has a strong sense of national duty and strong communities with family values.
@@captainvanisher988 that’s true
@@captainvanisher988 the j.e.w.s in i.s.r.a.e.l or the ones around the world? The people of i.s.r.a.e.l.s national duty seems mainly to currently be g.e.n.o.c.i.d.e, the e.t.h.n.i.c c.l.e.a.n.s.i.n.g of p.a.l.e.s.t.i.n.e, they apparently have the "right" for that land while disregarding the natives living there peacefully, sounds pretty similar to what europeans did to native Americans when they first found the the new continent, imagine immigrating to a country that takes you in when they didn't have to, but then you decide that you now should own their land and the native people who helped you should just die, murdering people in cold blood solely based on their race/religion is one of the things the n.a.z.i did, it's a shame the j.e.w.s in i.s.r.a.e.l didn't take that experience as a lesson to be better than their previous oppressors, they've now become comparable and in some aspects even worse, it's very disappointing
Edit: it's crazy that I have to censor some words otherwise my comment gets automatically deleted (I know from experience), that doesn't happen if what I was writing about was just a "lie"
When couples don't trust each other, always thinking that the other will cheat or leave with half of your the stuff. And on top of that, when child is born he or she is already 50k in debt in USA. How on Earth we suppose to procreate in these conditions?
Listening through this I forgot it was an Anti prophet video which was really amazing. Disconnecting himself from the information he wants to show, spreading the information and stepping in to get the conversation further but leaving us to do with the information not what he wants but what we want. Just doing what he can to inform as many people he can about the worlds problems usually not showing what sides he thinks is right.
Commenting just to say I appreciate this kind of content ❤
I CAN'T AFFORD KIDS!!!!!!!
When it comes down to it, we have no goal as a human species. Yet everyone experiences pain, and everyone dies eventually. What's the point? It seems like we're just having kids to have kids, except we're also giving suffering and death to people who didn't even ask to exist. Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? What exactly do you think you are gaining by having a child, especially in the current dystopian hellscape we find ourselves in??
Thannnnkkk you. I've been saying this. Why is so important to have kids at 8 billion plus on earth? If we were other species we'd be calling for population control, and yet we're doing the opposite and calling a "crisis". Why is having kids so damn important? I have nothing against people who choose to have them (provided they actually care for them), but as you rightfully pointed out...what is the overall goal here that makes reproducing a necessity?
@Mistyfaery 100% agree!!! Truly baffles me why people want children! To me, I feel honored to be the last in the line of billions of people/animals who have come before me. To throw that away just to do what your ancestors have always done for no reason at all seems so pointless to me! My legacy will come through the way I live my life and how I treat others, not in the amount of unprotected sex I'm capable of having, lol!
Adopt if you want to have kid so bad!!!!
DON'T BRING ANOTHER INNOCENT INTO THIS WORLD!!
Never thought id get a notification of a ful loength vid from here lol. Thanks for the information good listen for my break
High quality video, good job again!
Having a child scares me and excites me to no end and I very much would like to have one but I scared i will fail to be a good father for them
Those who are the most Worthy to obtain something knows to approach with caution. My husband and I have finally become financially stable enough to consider trying to have a child. We are both terrified yet overjoyed Just As You Are. The important thing here is that you understand that this is a great responsibility and you are being cautious to even undertake it. I have no doubt that you will be a wonderful father someday. Be careful about some of these women though. As a woman myself I know we out here looking for some money that's it and that's all. Fall in love with a personality, a heart, a soul!! Because we're all going to be old and ugly someday😊
I believe in the film plot of Idiocracy to an extent - the very dumb are able to have a whole spawn of children, whereas people considered ‘smarter’ or on a decent income wait to save for a home, but then in the process also die, get divorced,etc. meaning less children
The jabs were an IQ test to filter out the idiots.
Hope this channel keeps growing
I really enjoyed that, they had a lot of good points but also give a lot to digest.
I think I’m going to need to watch this a couple of times to take everything in. would you think about getting people on who have an opposing argument I think that would be interesting.
Greed is killing us
This is my time to form my own civilization.
😂
Make sure it has a strict 2 child policy.
As the guy in the video it really is though. If you can create a high ferlity high tech culture that is i intergenerationally stable you can "take over the world" fairly easily - or at least more easily than at any point in history
@@SimoneandMalcolm Thank you so much for responding! My girlfriend and I are planning to get married within the next two years, and we’re very open to the amount of children. Having come from poor families, we know the financial difficulties of having to form families, but we’ve always looked at the Abrahamic family-to-tribe-to-nation model as a positive structure to help humanity.
Especially now with the heavy decline in teaching people how to be proper human beings, I think it’s necessary to at least contribute a family that can become a positive impact to society.
This video is fantastic. Very open minded and well said
Its not population collapse that is immediate issue. Its ratio of tax paying workers to retirees ratio effected by people living longer.
Exactly
Let’s just face it…
The world will be better if you are alone
8 billion people in the world, it's not like we're running out of em
keep the long form content coming, please !
I’m 23, almost 24. I know for sure I want to have kids but I want to also be sure I don’t rush that process. Making sure I find the right partner who wants to raise my kids the same way I do. My partner is going to be the mother of my children so I view potential relationships with that at the back of my mind. I also feel I still have to work on myself before I have kids.
Peter Zeihan has been preaching this for years... and predicting the downfall of Russia, China, and Germany. According to him, the US is not that far behind.
Yup, though (as the guy being interviewed in this) I think Zeihan sometimes undersells the scale of what is happening (and that is saying a lot given how alarmist he comes off to some).
Predictions are not always right. I just can't see how it will be right. When there is no labor - corporations will need to pay more for labor. Right now, the rich use the money we put in the bank to finance things to make them richer. When the bank can't give that much money it is going to cost more. High population is only good for the rich.
I’m 28 and all I want is a family
This was a good video! Its sad so many people wanna opt out of the human experience
Interesting honestly, new perspectives on the issue that I haven't thought of
I’m apart of the problem apparently. I am actually in a good position to have kids and start a family. I make six figures a year, zero credit card debt, home owner with lots of assets.
Back in 2015 I had frozen my sperm in a bank and had gotten a vasectomy. Currently have a roster of 3 women who I have no intention of marrying and starting a family with. Life is great.
*Weird*
Throw away the frozen sperm and you're perfect
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These billionaires are hilarious telling us to have kids like they aren't the sole people responsible for making us not want to have children in the first place
It’s not just billionaires bro, it’s also our own generation. Let’s not be victims.
You said their wrong. I’m more concerned about that your a adult; don’t difference of they’re, there and their and it took me multiple times to understand what you were trying to say.
Not really a few billionaires fault it's an entire culture
I’ve already decided I don’t want kids. The main reason is how the world is now. Everything is terrible now. But if an accident happens I’ll damn sure be a good father.
I’m about to turn 30 male. I have a 65k a year job, but between screwing up my financial situation when I was younger, the difficulty to find a partner and how expensive things are getting just to afford rent/food for myself. Having a kid just doesn’t make sense.
I’d love a kid or two. It’s just not feasible/financially worth it right now. I make just enough to pay my bills and have a little bit for fun.
That chick is spot on with everything she's saying.
What a thoughtful thing to say! My wife just sent me a text saying, " Though I'm horrified by how much I'm talking in it ugh" so I sent her your comment.
You and your wife are legends. Youre both giving valuable knowledge keep talking! @SimoneandMalcolm
@@SimoneandMalcolm It feels like she barely talked though.
Show the same OPEN MINDEDNESS and RESPECT by interviewing That Vegan Teacher, Vegan Gains Richard,
and Amanda Sukenick of Antinatalism International. Let us hear THEIR side of the story.
Show the same OPEN MINDEDNESS and RESPECT by interviewing That Vegan Teacher, Vegan Gains Richard,
and Amanda Sukenick of Antinatalism International. Let us hear THEIR side of the story.@@SimoneandMalcolm
Anti.Prophet is like the spiderman in our universe.
i miss uncle ben
@@anti.prophetlove bro u think raiseong 100k going to Africa is good or bad idea ? I see it’s advancing a little bit so video on that or reply Ghana South Africa Dubai to Nigeria to name a few watcha think
Love the content ❤ keep it up 💯
really enjoyed that thank you for the video many thanks big safe
Imagine being a part of 4.5 billion years of an unbroken lineage of organisms choosing to have children, then choosing to break it.
Well that's the great thing about freedom. No matter what your ancestors did, you get to choose how to live your life. But on another note, aside from people being more pro-natalist back in the olden days, they didn't have contraception nearly as reliable as we have today. If they did, you and I would very likely not be alive today 😂
If urbanization, industrialization, and contraception were a historical constant, maybe it would have already happened.
@@skylinefever Or maybe these things hinged upon the discovery and mass use of certain things (one example is oil for industrialization) that could only come about at certain points in human history or happened randomly. By your logic, we should go back to a time where kids worked 15 hours with their parents on a farm and parents lost 4 out of their 7 children.
Imagine been alive with 8 billion people that unti verry recent existed for only the past 100 years
The rat paradise experiment already predicted this
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Not exactly what I expected with the "long form content" (in terms of video length).....But I'm all here for it :)
Extremely interesting to listen to.
Dude makes some good points but he's assuming everyone thinks the way he does... Most people aren't thinking- gee I gotta have kids to make sure my race survives... They're having kids because it's what they want for their own lives
do yall not understand that there are at least 3x as many people as there were 30 years ago in the world? its ridiculous to think that there are enough resources for everyone to multiply.
What an incredibly valuable exchange of ideas, you guys are awesome and I want to thank you very much for sharing your insights into the state and development of these topics
any more plans for longer content? these videos seem nice. Also love to you as an indonesian, you are a good person ♥
way more plans