Long Bulk Fermentation vs Preferment | What is the Difference?

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  • Long bulk proof (fermentation) vs using a preferment. This has been quite a common question under some of my ‘breads with preferment’ videos.
    And it totally makes sense, as you would think - why put in the extra effort of fermenting a portion of the total flour separately and only then adding it into the final dough, mixing again and continuing fermentation? Why do this if you could simply reduce the amount of yeast in a straight-through bread dough and leave it to ferment for the same amount of time as you would the preferment?
    Preferments are used to add more flavour to bread, to make the crust crispier, and the crumb more substantial. They also help with keeping quality as the slight acidity prevents the bread from going off too soon (not that it would last long before being eaten anyway).
    Flour that is fermented for a longer time can also benefit our bellies as the bran and the gluten gets broken down more thus enabling our bodies to absorb them more easily and get more nutritional benefits. Call it pre-digestion. Saying that, when it comes to bread made with commercial yeast the main benefits are flavour and some of that gluten ‘relief’, let’s call it. Because a sourdough starter brings more of health benefits to our gut and helps with breaking down the flour and releasing all the goodies.
    That is why naturally leavened bread is far heathier than bread made with commercial yeast. The whole dough is fermented for many hours allowing the wild yeast to break down the flour and all the enzymes to work their magic which I by no means fully understand. One thing I can say is that I am gluten intolerant and eating bread that is slowly fermented significantly reduces the effects of my intolerance. Especially if it is naturally leavened. But today we are not making naturally leavened bread.
    So, back to the preferment vs bulk proof discussion.
    Looking at what is mentioned above we may naturally think that a long bulk proof of the whole dough should be better in every way. It seems more convenient and because all the flour is fermented it should give us the greatest benefit in terms on the qualities described above.
    But not so fast! There are a few points to consider when choosing which method is best for your bake.
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    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    0:36 Example dough ingredients
    1:16 Making the preferment
    2:05 Mixing the dough
    3:31 Fermentation, shaping, final proofing
    7:25 Baking the straight loaf
    8:24 Baking the preferment loaf
    8:50 Side by side comparison
    9:57 24 hour fermented dough example
    11:43 24 hour fermented dough result
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  • @ChainBaker
    @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    📖Read the article in the link below the video ⤴
    🌾 If you would like to support my work click here ⤵
    www.ko-fi.com/chainbaker
    🔪 Find all the things I use here ⤵
    🇺🇸 www.amazon.com/shop/ChainBaker
    🇬🇧 www.amazon.co.uk/shop/ChainBaker
    🥨 To learn more about bread making click here ⤵
    Principles of Baking bit.ly/principles-of-baking
    The Steps of Baking bit.ly/steps-of-baking

    • @jvallas
      @jvallas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A long time ago, the description used to exist below the video, but it doesn’t any more, at least not on devices I use. You have to click a down arrow under the video, and then the description (& links):open up at the side. I only mention it in case newer viewers don’t know what you mean when you say the article is linked under the video. On the other hand, maybe it’s different on a computer, which I never use any more unless I have to.

    • @BelieveItOrDot
      @BelieveItOrDot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I absolutely love every single one of your videos. I truly do. You've helped me become a better baker and for that I thank you from the bottom of my _bready_ heart.
      Just please, please, please, include the ingredient list in the description. I can understand you want to generate traffic on your website but some of us watch your videos on TV where it's not easy or even possible to surf the web. So, please, include the ingredient list on the video description. I know many subscribers will appreciate it.

    • @Monin102
      @Monin102 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just discover u, thank you so much, very informative, finally, there’s help to fill in so many questions. Fairly new to baking bread, my number question remained, where’s the bakery deep flavor in my bread. Now i might accomplish it, w/o sourdough flavor.

  • @Felix-fk5qy
    @Felix-fk5qy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Wow! Finally, your face reveals! You are good looking and well explained! Well done sir. Thanks for this video. Keep going! :)

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you so much! :))

    • @alekjwrgnwekfgn
      @alekjwrgnwekfgn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha, somehow I was imagining a fat-bloke (like me) 😸

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was quite big just half a year ago. Intermittent fasting for the win 😁

  • @chsyank
    @chsyank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I prefer long cold full dough fermentation. I almost never use a small preferment for bread. Good videos where I can learn more about bread making. I've been making bread for 40+ years and still learning.

  • @50sKid
    @50sKid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Really great stuff man. I’ve been planning on doing similar experiments but just haven’t gotten around to it yet. I really really appreciate these comparison/experiment vids you’ve been doing. I really learn a lot and I’m glad your channel exists and you’re having fun with it. Excited to see what you do this year!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you so much! :) I will try and make more videos like this one.

  • @charboe1
    @charboe1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Not sure if you are aware of a TH-camr named "This Old Tony", but your way of expressing yourself, as well as creating content, is very similar, just different areas of passion 🙂

    • @bubbleobill267
      @bubbleobill267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Imagine Tony baking something with maho?. That I’d like to see!.

    • @hardwareful
      @hardwareful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      French Guy Cooking's dry pasta project is screaming ToT to me, hoping for a "bottle jack pasta press" :)

    • @charboe1
      @charboe1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bubbleobill267 haha yeah would be a nice collab

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charboe1 these comments aged so well lol.

  • @tunatuna6723
    @tunatuna6723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your preferment videos are worth their weight in gold!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope I can make a few more. Running out of ideas for preferment videos.

  • @trackie1957
    @trackie1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bread is like children - the same recipe produces different results, but you love them anyway.
    You are absolutely right in that the exact same recipe can produce very different breads. I’ve been baking with starter for about 15 years and for my everyday bread I use the same basic recipe and the method I use depends on my schedule and whether I have room in the fridge for my dough. The bread is always good, just not consistent. The downside to this approach is that if I make an outstanding loaf I probably can’t duplicate it.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      'Bread is like children - the same recipe produces different results, but you love them anyway' - this line should be in bread book! Love it! :)

  • @tallcedars2310
    @tallcedars2310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love seeing the wrap "bubble up" as fermentation takes place! It gives a clear picture as the dough rises compared to lose wrapping.
    Wonderful videos! I'm fortunate TH-cam put your video up in my feed.

  • @LloydsofRochester
    @LloydsofRochester ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting! Now my husband is getting interested because he used to make bread when he was in school and he is noticing that it is done differently and is impressed by the results.

  • @matthewrace3532
    @matthewrace3532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m a relatively new home baker and I’m finding your videos very helpful. Thank you.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy to help! :)

  • @Disco.Wizard
    @Disco.Wizard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just found this channel yesterday and it's really great man, very informative and well produced videos I've already learned a lot from a few videos. Can't wait to apply these things to my own baking and experiment with some ideas. Top notch baking videos

  • @sandracartica4932
    @sandracartica4932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hello handsome Chain Baker! As always a wonderfully informative video! I am what you call a "lazy baker" so I mix everything all at once and let it do its thing for at least 15-16 hours, then do a fold/pre-shape, final shape then bake. It always come out chewy and with a nice crust. My crumb isn't as open as yours was... I have to keep trying. Thanks again, love your channel!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you so much 🙏 I'm a super lazy baker. You'll never see me do anything complicated unless it's for a video haha!

    • @georgepagakis9854
      @georgepagakis9854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChainBaker lol

  • @julianl.109
    @julianl.109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how you so easily explain the processes going on. You make me excited to bake

  • @alexer071
    @alexer071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice to see your channel start to get the recognition it deserves!
    I've learned so much from your techniques and awesome recipes, thank you mate.
    Keep up the good work!!!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much, Alex 🙏

  • @macswanton9622
    @macswanton9622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your model of 'let's learn together' is most effective. Everybody learns something, Very democratic!

  • @thehitomiboy7379
    @thehitomiboy7379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good info! I actually do both. Because of my schedule, it works best to make a preferment on Fri night or Sat Morning, then add and mix on Sat night, bulk ferment, fold (I use a high hydration ciabatta style recipe), and then proof like 18 hours before baking (mostly fridge; only 1-2 hours room temp). Gets kind of a mix of these 2 things. That said as before I use a sourdough starter for all this (one that's quite immature).
    Anyway, keep up the great work!

  • @psalm_eight_videos8938
    @psalm_eight_videos8938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this video. I tend to like chewier bread, but I like the convenience of the biga. It was fascinating to see that the differences were not that great. You have a great teaching style.

  • @eugenetswong
    @eugenetswong หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, Mr. Baker. It seems that we should get good at all these techniques, so that we can adjust as our circumstances change.

  • @blah-kf5vn
    @blah-kf5vn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You should have way more subscriber. Your explanation clear, understandable, way better than other baking channels I've came across. Good job, and happy new year with tons of new subscriber :)

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! Happy New Year 🥳

  • @johnp1992
    @johnp1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Happy New Year Charlie!
    I’m looking forward to your videos this year, and to seeing your channel take off ...
    The content is always informing and relevant; your videography is interesting; and the production is fabulous.
    Your baking experience seems deep and your presentation is very inviting... perhaps consider a background story episode 👍

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Happy New Year to you John! :) And thank you so much for the nice comment. Perhaps I'll do something like that in the distant future. Cheers!

  • @jmcg5838
    @jmcg5838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty new baker trying to nail a nice high and open crumb rustic bread that is not too dense. I do not like sourdough much. Have made may loaves while experimenting and just broke down to buy a 4 litre dutch oven for my next batch. I will use a Biga preferment. I add a tablespoon of diastatic malt powder to the flour and a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar for every 2 cups of flour. 75% hydration. All purpose flour. My bread tastes great with a lovely crust but not much oven spring and does not rise a lot when baking. Hoping the dutch oven will help. Thank you for your excellent content.

  • @artycrafty9209
    @artycrafty9209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, so, so informative and a real learning curve, thank you very much for this, I shall no doubt go back and watch many times to take in details. You are the Professor! knowing the reasons why is the most important learning curve.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much Arty! 😊

  • @fedelefolino7879
    @fedelefolino7879 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your not only a great baker but a great teacher! Many thanks!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you're finding my videos useful :)

  • @strangerintheselands251
    @strangerintheselands251 ปีที่แล้ว

    It breaks my heart to see you cutting bread on this beautiful beautiful table, man

  • @theclimb8632
    @theclimb8632 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    glad to see your channel is growing! You deserve it, man!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! :)

  • @dvybeyond
    @dvybeyond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super informative, thank you for this! I really appreciate the super high quality of your channel.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much, Valerie! :)

  • @DanoneczkQs
    @DanoneczkQs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Didn't expect your video today and it was a pretty good surprise :) I've found your channel about a ~week ago and went through lots of videos already, and I have to admit that your scientific way of handling baking + complex understanding of it is what will make me stay here longer. Just what I was looking for, there are not that many channels where not only delicious food is baked or cooked, but at the same time it's well explained for what reason we're doing what we're doing :D
    Don't know if it's okay to advertise other people channels but I've got to say; yours, Foodgeek and Ethan Chlebovsky are my top now.
    Greetings from Poland, as per my greedy request, I'd love to see yours take on one of Polish baked goods called pączek/pączki (fried doughnut stuffed with jam) as in 1,5 month we'll be celebrating Tłusty Czwartek (Fat Thursday/Shrove Tuesday I guess?) treating ourselves with delicious food :D
    And of course I would love to see more videos like today's - comparing different takes on bakery :)

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you so much, Daniel! I'm glad you're finding my videos useful.
      I got to admit that I still have so much to learn. And I have got some facts wrong in past videos. But the side by side comparison speak for themselves so I guess that's what saves me :)
      Thanks for the tip! I will add them to my projects list. Definitely want to make them. I have had many Polish co-workers who told me about Fat Tuesday and I was always intrigued. I love the name for the most part haha! Cheers.

  • @atrotsiuk
    @atrotsiuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    New subscriber here and I’m so happy that I found your channel. I’ve made a couple of recipes and I’m learning a lot!
    Your content is gold!
    Happy New Year!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much. And welcome to the channel! Happy New Year 🥳

  • @leighannebrown-pedersen7536
    @leighannebrown-pedersen7536 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your channel for learning the science behind baking. I live outside Denver in Colorado, USA (think Vail and Aspen 4 hours away). So the house is at 5900 ft, 1775 ish m elevation. The pressure and oxygen here is different and I think that is affecting my bread. I did a polish preferment today in the basement cellar at 65F 18c and my poolish went crazy in only 8 hours with just under 1g yeast to 400g/ 400g flour water. I’ll make half into pizza dough and the other half into a boule bread tomorrow. I finished the poolish tonight in the fridge to slow it down. This is a long way of saying I am using your video and some others to learn, experiment, learn more and bake.

  • @LunchwithLisa
    @LunchwithLisa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Chainbaker!! Good to see you and thanks for sharing all your knowledge. Love watching your videos 🥰

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much, Lisa! :)

  • @mrmudcatslim1004
    @mrmudcatslim1004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been following your channel, the best TH-cam channel so by far when it comes to explanations. I actually have one of the books you recommend and will probably purchase the other two. I will probably use the links in your descriptions.
    Glad to see you back at it, and look forward to more of your excellent content.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for the support! :)

    • @robmerry5253
      @robmerry5253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi - Charlie. Great channel - so informative it’s off the scale with useful information. Can you let me know the books recommended?

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much Rob! You can find the books I recommend in my Amazon shops linked below the video. The best one of them by far is 'Bread: A Baker's Book of Techniques & Recipes' by Jeffrey Hamelman. Cheers!

  • @mrca443
    @mrca443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy New Year! I made your Brioche with Brie yesterday for a Party. Since the bread was doubled, I made two! Not a single piece left. Thanks again for the videos! I am shocked you don’t have a million subscribers!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy New Year! 🥳 I'm so glad you enjoyed it. If I can attract more like-minded people like you then we'll get to that million in no time 😁

  • @Jeepy2-LoveToBake
    @Jeepy2-LoveToBake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Charlie - OUTSTANDING job on the new format!! Very nice backdrop for your "in-person" intro/closing. Very informative video today - I am going to learn so much more about baking this year. Oh yes, and I agree with the other comments - very handsome, indeed!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much, Lan! :) You also played a big part in the backdrop happening 😉
      My head won't fit through the door soon if I keep getting nice comments like this 😂

    • @Jeepy2-LoveToBake
      @Jeepy2-LoveToBake 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChainBaker 😆 I think your YT subscriber base will increase dramatically this year with the new format. Congratulations on a job well done!! 👍👍👏👏

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you 😊

  • @mikegrode7697
    @mikegrode7697 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the video I have been waiting for!

  • @alshalan7986
    @alshalan7986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content as always you sir keeping me refreshing youtube daily looking for a new update from your channel 👊🏻 and what a great surprise to see you

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! :)

  • @Gwyndl
    @Gwyndl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol good to see you brother,I’m 61 and a grandfather I thought you were about my age,but your way way younger👍🏻love your videos,great new year to you 👍🏻

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Neil! Yeah I thought it's about time to say hello to everyone. Happy New Year to you! :)

  • @nielsandersostergaard2949
    @nielsandersostergaard2949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANKS FOR LETTING US THINK !!!!

  • @matthewmorgan2975
    @matthewmorgan2975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy New Year 🥳 Charlie 🍻 a nice surprise at the start of the video with a face to the voice 🙌🏻👍🏻 looking forward to seeing what you have in store for us in 2022 👌🏻

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy New Year, Matthew! Thank you so much. I will try and make more videos like this one ;)

  • @mikimaruii
    @mikimaruii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg so nice to see your face! I love your channel and your recipes. Wishing you all the best in 2022!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! Nice to meet you 😉
      Thank you so much 🥳

  • @catherinedavid2265
    @catherinedavid2265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally! A face behind the chains 😂
    A handsome one too!
    Happy new year and many thanks for all your videos. 👍🥂

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, Catherine 😊 Happy New Year to you 🥳

  • @IlkkaVuoristo
    @IlkkaVuoristo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a very informative video! Thank you.
    I've done some bread baking (more than ten, less than hundred) using the "no knead" method, because I'm lazy. Sometimes it works great and the bread is delicious. Other times it's an absolute disaster. Watching your videos made me realize that I've been skipping a crucial step: temperature control. The latest bread was the best because I didn't skip this time.
    ps. I've seen some "no kneaders" do the whole bulk fermentation in the fridge. It's slower, but rarely appears to over-ferments.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you!
      I love no knead bread. There are quite a few of them on my channel :)
      Cold bulk proofing is a great method and I will make a separate video on it. It does give the bread a more sour flavour, but I like it. And it is super convenient too. Cheers!

  • @toshiyukisuzuki7610
    @toshiyukisuzuki7610 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, I am now able to associate a face to your channel name. Thank you for this masterclass. Learned tons!
    Those hands are extremely beautiful!

  • @quakerwildcat
    @quakerwildcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome to see your face, Charlie. Happy new year and congrats on the growth of your channel. Been following since the beginning and have learned a ton. Now baking a couple of loaves a week. These experiments are educational and loads of fun.
    I'd love to see you tackle the big kilo-sized batard. I'm making those myself with a preferment and 10% whole wheat (and a makeshift parchment "basket" that's working quite well) but would be fascinated by your take.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! And thanks for sticking around :)
      I will publish a few loaves like that this month. Tomorrow's video might be of interest. Cheers!

    • @londobali
      @londobali 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was going to say the same.. Nice to put a face to that voice. :)

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😉

  • @mgxa_
    @mgxa_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Helped explain many things I had questions about.
    Regarding the differences in crust browning, one thing to remember is that fermentation has an effects on 2 browning factors which work against each other: sugars and pH. Longer fermentation causes more starch to break down into sugar, which yes, means there is more sugar *available* for caramelization and the Maillard reaction. But also, longer fermentation also results in a more acidic dough. The speed of the Maillard reaction is inversely proportional to the pH. I'd speculate that in the 24-hour fermented straight-through dough, the pH dropped such that the Maillard reaction was much slower and controlled, resulting in the beautiful even browning given the temperature and baking time. I'd suspect that the browning *potential* may have been quite a bit greater if left in the oven much longer, due to the greater amount of sugars available.

  • @francotettamanti3962
    @francotettamanti3962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As we usually say in Argentina: sos un crack!, keep going with such great stuff!!!! Excellent!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much Franco 🤩

  • @robertyabut989
    @robertyabut989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy New Year and keep up the great and informative videos! From Seattle, Washington, USA.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy New Year, Robert! Thank you 🥳

  • @marjanyd1703
    @marjanyd1703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for everything. Happy New year

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy New Year! 🥳

  • @whip8
    @whip8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how diplomatic you are

  • @arnaudseguin6404
    @arnaudseguin6404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thoroughly enjoyed watching this video. Happy New Year to all.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy New Year! :)

  • @queenofpixels5458
    @queenofpixels5458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love to cook but baking has always been a bit fussy for me. But bread, it's really hard to screw bread up to the unbeatable point. It is very forgiving and no two loaves are exactly the same. I love your channel. All the different things you try and you still end up with a beautiful loaf no matter what. That gives me confidence to just go for it.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the attitude I like to see. Just go for it! Awesome :) I'm glad you're enjoying the process. Cheers!

  • @rudicandaza3692
    @rudicandaza3692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wish more bread recipes/videos would factor in the dough and ambient temperature like this did. I live in the tropics and when I started making high hydration doughs, I've had many instances where the entire batch was wasted because they overfermented and became a puddled mess despite following the recipe and instructions down to the letter. Now I just pop the dough into the fridge in between folds.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yes must be challenging baking in the tropics. I would probably make only cold bulk proofed bread if I lived in a hot place like that 😁

    • @hananurra6122
      @hananurra6122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I live in tropic country too and yes, leaving dough proofing overnight at room temp was such a big no. Proofing it only 3 hours and it smells very sour. I always put them in the fridge. But I still figuring out to do a proper cold bulk fermentation

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I will make a video on this in the future 👍

    • @hananurra6122
      @hananurra6122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChainBaker ooh can't wait

  • @tanniawilson161
    @tanniawilson161 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thankyou so much for ALL of these educational informative videos. I only started to bake bread about 6 months ago and have only used yeast. I have so far really stuck to 1 basic bread recipe and 1 enriched burger bun recipe. I've attempted Japanese milk bread and although I really enjoyed it really isn't an everyday bread. I also tried to make a tiger loaf but I cant seem to get the paste right. Thanks to you I now have enough confidence to try sour dough breads. its going to be an adventure for sure lol.

  • @hksunshine1573
    @hksunshine1573 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice bread and experiment always! Thanks for your professional sharing!!!🤩

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure 😊

  • @hilarychandler3621
    @hilarychandler3621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy New Year and thank you! You have given me bakers courage. I adore your revelations of the subtleties of bread art and science. Hydration, autolyse, preferment and oil infusion are the angels of breadbaking! Yay focaccia!Please can you do a video on croissants? 🌟

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy New Year! :) I'm glad you you are enjoying baking and that I can play a part in your experience. Here is my cruffin video. You can use this dough to make croissants - th-cam.com/video/ysWxNBzpCPg/w-d-xo.html
      But I will make actual croissants in the future too. Cheers!

    • @hilarychandler3621
      @hilarychandler3621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChainBaker thank you, I will try this and I look forward to the new videos!

  • @johnwalsh1648
    @johnwalsh1648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see you at the end!!!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it was about time I said hi 😉

  • @JonathanOvnat
    @JonathanOvnat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your awesome videos. Love these experiments you do.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Cheers! :)

  • @georgepagakis9854
    @georgepagakis9854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yay!!! I love this video. I have done poolish at 18 hours with .001% yeast and temp of 18C and the smell was amazing. Only problem is that its harder to time an 18 hour then a 12 hour so I go for the convenience :) Since I only make Pizza I have found that high hydration gives you a super nice crunch and less chew which I don't like anything to chewy. I really don't like when I tried putting 10% semolina flour as I have seen others do. That is super chewy. I like the Bigga for the high rise and big air pockets and taste. but poolish tastes great too but has the small bubbles of air. Great for Detroit style pizza where I prefer biga for regular pizza. I don't like straight dough bulk ferment. Tried that with pizza flour and degassed it and then left the dough balls for an additional 24 hours in the fridge. Tasted like bread without any crunch. The taste was very bland in comparison to a Biga or Poolish. Also my tests made me conclude that long fermentation in the fridge also taste better and nicer crunch with less chew. Leaving the dough balls proof in the fridge for 36 hours, when you smell the dough it smells just as good as when you took your poolish out after 12 hours. The entire dough becomes poolish :) So you don't need more then 10 to 20% to do the job.
    The only trade off is the final color as its lighter. I have been experimenting with diastatic malt powder but had bad results even at 2% i got the crust being gummy and the top of the pizza as well. oh well. I think its the crap I bought on Amazon. I will try with other brands and see the difference. Using powder to achieve color is better then adding sugar or honey. for color. But I still have to try the egg wash :P LOL
    I hope your 2022 kicks super ass and hopefully you will get100k by the end of this year.
    I hope you have 1 million because you deserve it :)
    I can't wait to see a video on fridge long fermenting. Hopefully my findings and yours will match :)
    Nice to finally see a face to that voice :) Good move!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey George! I am still working my way through your email haha! :D Some great findings there and awesome tips in this comment right here! The fridge fermentation video will take some time, but I am working on it. I will try some diastatic malt in there too.
      I thought it was about time I said hello to everyone :) Cheers mate!

  • @mikefromflorida8357
    @mikefromflorida8357 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A great channel. Thank you.

  • @YouzACoopa
    @YouzACoopa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    interesting video, I made your giant ciabatta Pain Rustique a couple of days ago. it turned out beautifully even though I struggled with the stickiness of the dough. I've never made such incredible crust, keep up the good work

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers :)

  • @karlastrebel1909
    @karlastrebel1909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A hundred different breads with the same recipe!!! Yes!

  • @FoxForceG
    @FoxForceG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoy your side by side comparison of techniques/ingredients/ratios. I would really like to see a comparison of all purpouse flour and bread flour (I think it's stong flour in the UK), to understand the difference in fermentation and final bread.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. I will definitely make a video on that in the future. I don't think there should be much of a difference in fermentation. The shape and volume of the bread would be quite different though, but even that can be adjusted with folding and shaping techniques.

  • @Quibus777
    @Quibus777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is an awesome vid, ty!
    about degassing, waste products of any organism usually are not beneficial for that organism, hence degassing, getting rid of CO2 a waste product of yeast is good. the ethanol one cant discard as easy with some folds, and the lower boiling temp of ethanol/alcohol gets the oven spring going faster (alcohols boil/gas at 70 upwards where water needs 100C) great vid thanks again

  • @doomo
    @doomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As usual a fine lesson. from personal experience I find preferment better suits my needs. I like to make several loves worth of dough at once. I measure them out before final rise and freeze them individually. The day before I need it I remove one or sometimes two and allow them to thaw in the fridge overnight. Next morning it is time to remove them. roll them out and fold them. Then shape and final rise. Bulk style tends to take too much space in the fridge and time. Admittedly convenience is important to me but taste is quite good. Sorry for taking up your time. Looking forward to your vid on dough enhancers (vital wheat gluten and others). Oh and your cuban bread recipe is well worth the time to study.

  • @bonnie_gail
    @bonnie_gail 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought I got here by mistake, I thought it was a spoof on gansta baking LOL .......... love your channel !!

  • @acaicadunkley792
    @acaicadunkley792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reading this description was very informative. I find it ironic that you make so much bread when you have a gluten intolerance, good for you!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I enjoy the process of making it just as much as the eating :)

  • @Justme-hc3kt
    @Justme-hc3kt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I stumbled upon this channel and I love it 🥰

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome aboard! :)

  • @jessebanwell5705
    @jessebanwell5705 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found your channel, looks amazing! I look forward to exploring your videos.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to the channel :)

  • @Xelbiuj
    @Xelbiuj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy crap, you have 10X sub from when I started watching you. Congrats!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're the OG! Thanks for being with me for so long :)

  • @ajl8198
    @ajl8198 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you I learned so much from this !

  • @garylester8621
    @garylester8621 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very helpfull, thank you.

  • @UrbanArtCentral
    @UrbanArtCentral 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you please make a video of making bread with rice flour? I tried a few times and failed, it was never fluffy and soft.

  • @lauri_with_cats
    @lauri_with_cats 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you!

  • @chefpizza4677
    @chefpizza4677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content as always!

  • @reallybadaim118
    @reallybadaim118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this channel. Thanks 👍

  • @BelieveItOrDot
    @BelieveItOrDot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love every single one of your videos. I truly do. You've helped me become a better baker and for that I thank you from the bottom of my _bready_ heart.
    Just please, please, please, include the ingredient list in the description. I can understand you want to generate traffic on your website but some of us watch your videos on TV where it's not easy or even possible to surf the web. So, please, include the ingredient list on the video description. I know many will appreciate it.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much! :) I do understand that it can be a pain in the rear to have to go to another website to get the recipe, but unlike the TH-cam channel my website is mine and always will be, so that is why the recipes are there. Plus, I could not afford to stop getting traffic to the website. The channel would suffer because of it.

    • @BelieveItOrDot
      @BelieveItOrDot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChainBaker I can't argue with your logic, you're absolutely right.
      Again, thanks a lot for all those awesome videos!

  • @mandiigraham1596
    @mandiigraham1596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information. Looking forward to making my next loaf with method 3. 😋

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let me know how it turns out!

    • @mandiigraham1596
      @mandiigraham1596 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChainBaker well it worked but i can improve on it. I live in a semi tropical climate. Our winters are equal to your summers so for our warmer months i need to adjust some things. Mainly time between steps. But I am encouraged to keep at it. Thanks again.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure you'll find the perfect formula :)

  • @chun5143
    @chun5143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Charlie, I have been wondering yr face. It is nice to see you handsome baker ! Thank you for the experiment. It's Delicate and down to earth . Preferment bread puff more vertically with thnner crust. Worthy findings.
    All The Same compliments to you as given by other subscribers below.
    Wish you live next door to me for tutorials and friendship. 💖💗💓💞💕.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for the kind words! :)

  • @paul1der
    @paul1der 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great info sir. thank youuu

  • @pawerzepka7676
    @pawerzepka7676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Preferment dough is my favourite, I have bake just sourdough bread before. But my kids loved your recipe 🍞🍞😊

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! I'm glad they're enjoying it :)

  • @wekencook
    @wekencook 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The face reveal! Happy New Years Charlie and looking forward to learning more!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, Ken! Happy New Year to you :)

  • @Escandella118
    @Escandella118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great channel!! Thank you for sharing your experience! I'd love to see you use less foil but reusable lids though😉😊

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I need to show you how the dough is rising and you would not see it through a lid. That is the only reason why I use it. I never do it when I'm not filming :) Also I try to use the same piece of plastic for the whole project to not make too much waste.

  • @finnhapp
    @finnhapp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic vid

  • @tykellerman6384
    @tykellerman6384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting results…. 👨‍🍳👍

  • @pablovegas743
    @pablovegas743 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I make dough I usually combine all the ingredients, let it sit on the counter for like an hour and then leave it in the fridge for a day or two. Sometimes I make it with poolish. I like how it turns out and this no knead bread is usually very easy.

  • @americanrebel413
    @americanrebel413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @chicoern
    @chicoern 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very nice video!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, Francisco!

  • @roxiviski9860
    @roxiviski9860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Surprise Surprise! Very handsome Man you are! So young and talented. My wish for you is that your channel will grow and grow until the million subs and more in 2022! You really deserve it!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, definitely young(ish) haha 😁 thank you so much 🙏

    • @roxiviski9860
      @roxiviski9860 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChainBakerI'm a granny...of course you are young for me😊

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You know what's funny is that most of my viewers are over 50. I hope there won't be a mass exodus when they find out that a kid has been teaching them 😄

    • @roxiviski9860
      @roxiviski9860 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not for me...

    • @DJango-pn9mt
      @DJango-pn9mt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChainBaker don't worry there won't be mass exodus, everybody will stay with you, in fact you will attract more.Happy New Year.

  • @user-ti2uo9hs5r
    @user-ti2uo9hs5r ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo!!!!!

  • @janegardener1662
    @janegardener1662 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for doing the experiments I always wonder about but don't have the scientific mind or habits to pursue.

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you find them useful. Cheers! :)

  • @stizan24
    @stizan24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made a rustic prefect loaf today. Nice airy crumb, nice crunchy crust, should toast up nice, and go good with soup.

  • @silvermoon3486
    @silvermoon3486 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting experiment 😊❤👍🏼

  • @marjanyd1703
    @marjanyd1703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see you

  • @charmaytw
    @charmaytw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @mothtv
    @mothtv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. Watched it twice, couldn't take it all in first time. Actually think I need another go.
    Have you ever made Glasgow Morning Rolls? I've been trying to get that right, think I'm almost there, but I'd bet you'd nail it!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much :)
      I have not yet, but I added them to my future projects list. Cheers!

  • @why2522
    @why2522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video yet again! I was wondering if a blend of different flours would work in a poolish to add more flavor perhaps?

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, certainly. Whole wheat flour, rye flour would work really well :)

  • @theyareherewithus2944
    @theyareherewithus2944 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never met a loaf of bread I didn’t like. They all look good.

  • @ibolyakontor7199
    @ibolyakontor7199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved the 24 hour fermentation

  • @avouzas
    @avouzas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great content! Keep it up! I would like to kindly ask you to make a video/research on Kefir Sourdough. There are some videos out there but the variables are quite vast and I believe you could cast a light on this super ferment.
    BR!

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great suggestion! I have yet to try it myself, but I will investigate :)

  • @pd8559
    @pd8559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I start experimenting or trying out new pans of different volumes most of my faults are cool time related. Is there an easy way based on volume of dough per load on cook time adjustments?

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps there is a formula out there. But not that I know so far. I usually guesstimate it. A loaf made with 400 - 500g flour can take between 35 - 50 minutes depending on how dense it is. Small buns and rolls take 20 - 25. And flatbreads as little as 3 - 6. It all depends on temperature of course. I normally make my dough with 250g or 50pg flour, so that makes it predictable.

  • @lucianosmurf7037
    @lucianosmurf7037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone know what he baked these in, is it still his round cast iron with lid and they kept their shape or did he use square/oval cast iron with lid?

    • @ChainBaker
      @ChainBaker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Round cast iron with lid ✌