Star Wars Rebels 4x2 REACTION!! "Heroes of Mandalore - Part 2"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ม.ค. 2025
- Eric Rick Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss season 4 episode 2 of Star Wars Rebels - Heroes of Mandalore Part 2 - #StarWars #Rebels
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Man this Mandalore subplot is really interesting! Would such a shame if some “great purge” would to happen right? I’m sure this Bo-Katan character will be a great leader! Right?
The sarcasm is on Obi wan's level
You know Gideon stole the saber from her probably captured her there's no way she lost it in combat hand to hand.. So he really didn't have claim to the Saber anyway... It was all to get people talking for an end of season thing,, And it worked now their main leading Man on the Mandalorian TV show has a cool weapon
I know that Din becoming Mandalore is more likely at this point, but man I want Sabine to end up as Mandalore. Her entire character arc was building to it throughout Rebels.
Sabine: You have the wisdom of a ruler! Ther's no one I trust to wield the Darksaber more than you!
Everybody: Unfortunately for you, history will not see it that way!
well we do know Sabine has her own light saber now..lol can't wait to see her in live action she was cast a few months ago..Perfect casting by the way
@@Pinkielover well, I can't believe almost four years sense this show has over. Hope "Ashoka" going to be amazing! PS: I really wish they cast Mena Massoud. Simply because of the Alladin jokes!
@@Pinkielover she has a lightsaber now? is it Ezra's?
@@aacm1259 yes, he left as a token that they will meet again.
@@Pinkielover just a reminder it is ezra's lmao, it was his promise that he will be back
Even in season 3 Ursa told Sabine that she has no claim to the Darksaber because it has to be won in combat, so The Mandalorian series didn’t change the rules. I feel like the Mandalorians in this episode all collectively agreed to make an exception to the rule (including Ursa) this one time, but Bo-Katan knows her people would never accept her claiming the saber illegitimately a second time after already losing it once, so she wants to do it the “correct” way in The Mandalorian.
Agreed. To be honest, I think that Bo-Katan was NEVER destined to rule Mandalore, considering she has lost it so many times (1. She lost it to her sister before The Phantom Menace. 2. She lost it to Maul during The Clone Wars when he defeated Pre Viszla. 3. She lost it to the Empire before Rebels. 4. She lost it to the Empire AGAIN before The Mandalorian.)
I also think it's important that Bo-Katan accepts the Darksaber in the presence of all the other clans, so that the transfer is 'ratified' through consensus; it's not as simple as an individual choice to accept it without a combat challenge.
Lol
Rick reaction "laaame" had me dead lol i had the same reaction
love unfiltered rogue rick
I think they should have killed her mother, but have her brother be outside the blast and be saved.
Feels like the only majorly negative reaction they’ve had besides Yoda’s design
@@Depth217thin blades but that’s more of a nitpick as I would like to more of if it was unique to Kanan saber
Especially because Bo-Katan declined the Darksaber from Sabine in the first part of the episode, and also comments on Sabine's important leadership qualities, it seems like the Darksaber tradition is still pretty consistent. It's not until the full truth of Sabine's violation of the Mandalorian ways and her attempts to atone for it are fully explored that the weight of Sabine _needing_ to pass it on to someone worthy is more clear. Even then, that only happens after all the clans showing their full support of the exchange that Bo-Katan actually takes up the blade.
On top of that, Sabine recovered it from Maul, but not in a direct test of combat, so there is additional context to how that might cause division. The way Bo-Katan phrases it in *_The Mandalorian_* is that she has to win the Darksaber back because of how she received it here, _AND_ how it's implied that she is the one who lost it directly to Moff Gideon.
Not only that, here she's receiving it from Sabine who can't rule with her stigma of the weapon she's built, so it's got enough justification to be passed along with the other clans' approval - but to be hers again it _NEEDS_ to be recovered from the person who took it in combat. And then there's the matter of who wins it in combat…
Din Djarin is loyal to "The Way" of old Mandalore to an extremely zealous fault, given his history of coming out of the legacy of Death Watch. On top of that, he doesn't even remotely carry that same stigma that Sabine did, and is almost the complete opposite in terms of how deeply he holds those traditions sacred, and the others rally behind him. As a Mandalorian, Bo-Katan would almost certainly never have the clans' approval over Din from a symbolic standpoint, but _especially_ not after he defeated the very same enemy who took the Darksaber from her.
As soon as the legacy of rule through combat tied to the Darksaber was reestablished here, with the former ruler Maul's fate tied to Obi-Wan - it doesn't have any extenuating circumstances to allow it to be inherited through abdication - likely following a parallel to what was initially established after it was recovered from the Jedi Temple back at the start of its ruling legacy.
That deserves a ForceCenter “Well Said”.
She literally duels Saxon for it though and earns it, it's literally what wins Clan Wren over properly. But yeah, the stigma of the weapon she created and the reality of her clan working for the empire (and probably her age too) would most likely mean very few people would actually follow her.
Of course, Death Watch has it's own stigma because of its history as a Mandalorian supremacist faction and later terrorist organization, so you know, neither Din or Bo-Katan would have the upper hand due to that. Din has less official history though, and Bo-Katan has technically lead Mandalore to major losses twice now (post-TCW & "the purge") so I doubt she'd be very popular even if Din's a zealot nobody with death watch connections.
Thanks for the explanation, I was so confused about Bo-Katan feeling like the complete opposite of who she was in The Mandalorian.
The only thing that potentially works against Din is that he comes from a cult background with more radical purist philosophy, but he has a good track record of gaining respect and forming friendships quickly and being overall more personable than Bo-katan.
@@hawkins347 That's also what works in his favor. He comes from an extremely purist background so the ties to Mandalorian tradition in his entire upbringing are extremely rigid but also in alignment with what any other Mandalorian would want regardless of how extreme or relaxed their background is to those traditions. Then, as a person he is maintaining the spirit of the Mandalorian Way when it comes to acting honorably, and he is growing to understands when the dogma like wearing a helmet can be excused and when it should be maintained. That's precisely the qualities that you'd look for in a leader because he has the ability to influence the extremists and make them less radical, while restoring the legacy that the others are looking for that's been absent since Mandalore fell.
I forgot that Bo-Katan makes a point in this episode of anticipating retaliation from the Empire.
They said "beskar alloy" in this episode, I dont think we need any more convoluted explanations than that. If beskar is precious and expensive, then presumably it's cut into alloy with different metals with the more expensive arrmour being purer. Mando season 2 even explicitly mentions the purity of the beskar in that spear being higher than normal.
Mando's armor is pure beskar. Generational armor may not be as pure.
All of mandos armor and spear are pure beskar
@@SoranoGuardias Yup, and that's why it's so much better than what we see some of the guys in this show and clone wars wear.
@@_aWiseMan No. You have armor made of beskar alloy and then there is armor like Mando's that is made of pure beskar.
@@MikeHesk742 if you noticed i was refferring to mando not all of mandolorians just the main guy
10/10 would totally trust bo-katan to run a society with no experience, strict warrior culture (that surely wouldn't cause any kind of collapse), and totally not a former terrorist who was okay with overthrowing her own sister.
22:30 As Moff Gideon said, it’s not the weapon, it’s the story.
Pre Vizla: descendant of the first and only Mandalorian Jedi, fighting to “restore his heritage,” died honoring “the strongest shall rule”
Maul: warrior who appealed to the blood lust within the Death Watch Mandalorians, was respected until he revealed himself as a coward acting in his own self interest. Darksaber is lost until it is discovered by-
Sabine Wren: artist and weapons expert, probably the first Mandalorian since Tarre Vizla to actually be taught by a Jedi how to wield it, was willing to fight and die to end the empire and restore her home world. But she is young so she passed it to-
Bo-Katan: sister to the late duchess, right hand of Pre Vizla, fought for Mandalore’s freedom from Maul and from the Empire. She encapsulates Mandalore’s difficult past yet hopeful future. That is until it (and the darksaber) is taken away by-
Mott Gideon: we don’t know how he got it but it was in circumstances that Bo-Katan survived. I feel like him winning it in one on one combat is unlikely. He then makes the mistake of kidnapping a Mandalorian foundling, leading him losing the saber to-
Din Djarin: who is so Mandalorian he is mostly known as THE Mandalorian. A foundling who took in another foundling, Din has always been devoted to the way of the Mandalore. He keeps his word, brings in his bounties, and follows a strict moral code. He is probably the only person who could get the die hard warriors and the pacifists to come together (he’s already shown negotiation skills in his time with the sand people and the settlers of tatooine). Din Djarin is the Way.
This is the way
We’ll after the most recent Book of Boba episode. This is surprisingly REALLY well timed.
Boba of Boba
@@josumds1896 how did I mess that up? I’m smarter than that.
@@Blazecap it really made me laugh hahaha
This episode proves that when Jedi and Mandalorians team up, awesome shit happens.
And my idea of what happens after this is that during the Original Trilogy, Sidious sends Vader and Gideon to Mandalore to teach them a lesson, resulting in Mandalore falling and Bo-Katan losing the Darksaber to Gideon.
I think Bo feel like because she took the Dark Saber and didn't earn it, it's somehow her fault that Mandalore fell, like she was cursed.
Personally, I really hope Sabine becomes the Mand'alor. She's a Mandalorian who was raised by a Jedi, fought in the Rebellion, honors the ancient Ways while also knowing when it's time to evolve. She wasn't ready then, but it's been ten years.
I'm conflicted, some of my favorite moments from all of Star Wars are in the latter episodes of this season, but I don't want this reaction series to end.
From what I remember, part 1 was shown off at Celebration 2017 as a tease for the new season and then part 2 was shown with part 1 at the start of the season. So most people had months to consider if there were any survivors.
One thing to consider with beskar effectiveness is it's [light] reflectivity. Remember in ANH when a blaster shot bounces around a trash compactor? Maybe part of the reason why Din's armor is so good is that it's very reflective.
Still, I think purity is the main reason why some beskar is better than others.
I agree with Rick. At least one of the family should have been disintegrated. It completely undermined the emotional loss of the previous episode.
Based on who Sabine loses later in the show, I think the writers didn’t want to give Sabine two major losses in one season. Plus a big part of her arc is getting her family back together after it was torn apart. I think having Sabine’s weapon kill 20 members of her own clan is still effective to establish the threat of the Duchess
@@josephwantock1993 I think the problem is not that they didn't die, it's that the show clearly wanted us to think they died. I agree that the writers may not have wanted Sabine to suffer from two losses in one season but, in this case, they shouldn't have so clearly implied that they died at all. If they had thought that Sabine's weapon killing 20 members of her clan was effective enough to evoke feelings of loss then they could have put focus on that but, apparently, they didn't which is what was criticized here. Of course, that does not completely undermine the effectiveness of the weapon itself.
@@EwanGregorMc killed her entire clan besides two family members so that’s a huge loss
@@coultergill7728 I agree with you. If it had been visualized effectively, that could have totally sufficed but as I said... the writers clearly did not agree with you as they felt the need to make us believe that her family members died as well. That is a common mistake a lot of writers make to evoke fake emotions but what it simply does is to make the death of the other clan members less impactful.
i mean its more of a cliffhanger style, remember this is a 2 parter so they had to connect them ambiguously whilst also creating tension, and dont forget these episodes originally were released a week apart so there was that time to cause everyone to wonder
I believe that not all the mandalorian armor are full 100% beskar, but the majority are some sort of alloy between beskar (x%) and other metal alloy (y%) like durasteel. In fact we know that Din's Armor is full beskar and it is very rare. This is the perfect explanation to fix the discrepancy between TCW/Rebels and The Mandalorian. I hope we will see the battle that start here in Rebels and end with the Great Purge in some flashbacks during the next Mando season.
I also remember that a major issue with Beskar was that early mandalorians over mined it; making the rare metal even rarer
They even say "beskar alloy" in this episode, the one episode of Rebels/Clone Wars that mentions the metal by name, so I dont understand why these guys are even debating it. Mando has pure beskar armour and spear, some other mandos may have alloyed beskar to various degrees. It's pretty straightforward
2:17 could not be more accurate to how I felt in that moment
Damn Satine was killed by the dark saber again
"The only thing stronger than Mandalorian armor - Plot armor!" - Tristan and Ursa Wren
Lol Rick.
Thanks Eric! Thanks, Rick! Thanks, Calvin! Thanks, Aaron! 💥
It brings a deeper meaning to this episode knowing what we know now... This is pretty much the event that caused the mandalorian purge
I always assumed something happened that shook the Mandalorians' faith in Bo so she wanted to win the saber back in the "traditional" way so as to win brownie points with the clans that aren't confident of her anymore.
Doesn't matter anyway you know they're gonna change the story ,all to fit the success of the Mandalorian TV show ..All to give him a cool weapon... After all the dark saber is for the rightful ruler of deathwatch nothing more
Mandalorians are like Samurai, they both have an "honor complex".
Rick - you are THE best.
That voice actor, I recognize it anywhere, he plays in Outlander right? Can't think of his name though
Tobias Menzies
@@SraMacaco Lol!! I said Outlander because he's Scottish, I meant Kevin McKidd playing as Fenn Rau, Kevin was in Grey's Anatomy not Outlander, woops
In the episode they talk about Beskar alloy, which could be weaker than pure Beskar.
Gideon said that the only way that she could wield the dark Saber AGAIN would be if she won it in combat. Why do people always not pay attention
It was just to get people to talk about it as a end of season thing... There's no way in hell Gideon won that saber in combat in the first place
@@Pinkielover he did win it from her, she just yielded as we now have recently learnt
9:02
Eric just flexing
Yeah it was aired as a 2-parter originally as a season premiere.
Apparently Chopper's kill count is over 50,000.
And so concludes the Mandalore arc. Now Rick and Calvin are caught up on what happened to the Darksaber. Can't wait for them to catch up with rest of the final season! 🙂
Another amazing reaction
That Anti-Veskar AT-AT is the best technology the Empire has so far.
I think this is the first time ever the term 'Beskar' was said the Star Wars universe.
In my opinion there's a few ways to reconcile the different ways Beskar has been shown to work in the various series. There's likely a "pure" Beskar and a composite Beskar. On top of that, I like to think there's probably some sort of "integrity" stat to the armor like in some rpgs.
Din Djarin's armor was very recently forged out of pure Beskar, so his is at 100%. Meanwhile characters with generations old armor might be lower on the integrity scale. That could help explain his scene on the Gozanti tanking all of the blaster hits ahead of Bo Katan's group. The rest of them were like "we can't take this many!" but he was all "Leeeroy Jenkins!".
We still have instances like Sabine getting a blaster redirected into her helmet by Vader, or many cases of Mandalorians in CW & Rebels going down from blaster fire, and of course Boba's armor deflecting shots too, so it's not a perfect explanation. Guess we just have to wait on some more clarity as the lore moves forward.
To be fair just because they go down when shot doesn't mean they're dead, just knocked out at the very least.
That doesn't make much sense either. Because it takes many centuries for beskar to just slightly lose its effectiveness.
@@vetarlittorf1807 Re-read my entire original comment, slowly if you have to. I address the different angles to this idea. I also acknowledge my opinion on the matter isn't a perfect explanation at all, and we likely need more lore going forward for a proper explanation.
I dont think we even need to speculate, the only time they mention the word beskar in this show is when they mention "beskar alloy" so Sabine's weapon is effective against armours that contain beskar, which tells us not all mandalorian armour is pure beskar. Some mandalorian armour *is* pure beskar or an alloy with higher %, this isnt speculation either as they go out of their way in Mando season 2 to mention explicitly that the spear is pure beskar and can therefore block a lightsaber. If there's a concept of pure beskar which *can* block a lightsaber, then this is hard confirmation that there are beskar alloys which cannot.
Help me out here, why do fans like Blind Wave (who know a lot more than me) always debate stuff like this when the shows have spelled it out for us already? Nobody heard the word alloy? They forgot characters making a distinction about "pure beskar" in Mando?
@@MikeHesk742 I 100% agree with this take on the subject. It's essentially what I was proposing in not so many words. Though I wasn't speculating on how the Duchess affects Beskar in particular, just on how it's been shown to behave slightly differently in Clone Wars/Rebels/Mando and trying to reconcile certain characters having more "plot armor" than others. Perhaps I should have used the word alloy instead of composite, but in my mind they're interchangeable.
Edit: Oh yeah, in Blind Wave's case at least, Eric seems to be the only one that has deep knowledge on certain things, based on the limited number of reaction series' that I watch. That could be different for the other guys on other shows that I don't watch reactions to. Even still, like on The Witcher reactions Rick has a superficial knowledge of the lore. I dunno, it seems like the crew just consume too many different IPs for them to really get the finer details of each.
Man, it may be just me but I’ve never liked Bo Katan, we’re talking about a person who helped oververthrow her own sisters government and was responsible in part for her death, then wants to lead mandalore because people when her only claim to the thrown is a Sabre gifted to her and the fact that people loved her sister.
At least 3 mentions of Emperor Palpatine within the last 2 episodes; it's building up now.
I wish Clan Ordo was with them.
6:48
People need to be more aware of how they really emphasise "pure beskar" on rare occasions, but just "beskar alloy" usually. Like when din holds the beskar spear, and asks "beskar?" the magistrate responds "pure beskar". It's an important difference. Hence also why it's such a big deal in the first season when he upgrades his armour.
Beskar is just too rare and expensive to make everyone's armour out of it purely, and it puts a target on your back if you do.
Sabine's brother and mother are alive!
Rick: LAAAAAAAAAAAAME
Maybe the stormtrooper armor is like fiberglass
6:51 because this Metal deflect light sabers, and we can win against Jedi
Ah yes a weapon to surpass Metal Gear.
soo can anybody explain something to me what is the power source of the dark saber also does it use a kyber crystal at all?
I was thinking of the exact same thing when I first saw this! The writers basically borrowed the Superman 2 ending for this.
Real shame they didn’t canonize clans Ordo and Skirata at the end of this episode. Could have had two of them in the crowd
I feel like only very few people were actually apart of this.
Was Clan Ordo even still around during the Empire era in Legends?
Perhaps Sabine wasn't old enough to rule?
Was there Iron Man Comics before The Empire Strikes Back
Why did the empire destroy mandalore with a purge but also when specifically did it happen and I assume the rebels tried to help them but failed
I would rate beskar like gold 10k 14k 18k 24k
Part 1 was screened at SW Celebration. Imagine sitting on that cliffhanger for months only to find out that no one died.
U guys should check some timeline of the shows u watched, i see there is some confusion about it. Here a quick timeline of the shows/game and the movie u spoke about.
Ep. 3
JFO is only 5 year after ep 3.
Solo is 6 years to 9 years(circa) after ep 3.
Obi-Wan Kenoby will be 10 years after ep. 3.
Andor (will be 5 year before ep. 4 i think shortly before Rebels)
Rebels goes from 5/4 year to 1 year / months before ep 4. (14 to 18/19 years after ep. 3)
Rogue One (19 years after ep.3)
Ep 4 (19 years after ep.3)
-3 years gap
Ep 5
-6 months gap circa
Ep 6
The Mandalorian (5 years circa later ep.6)
I think there is something awful that happened to Bo between rebels and mando that we are not told yet, and will be told next season of mando, like the clans all betrayed or left Bo eventually because she did not win it, and that’s why she needs to win it now. We know to unite the extremist mandos that raised Din (not sure spelling) she would need to follow the old customs for this at least. They could probably look past the helmet thing if she at least wins the saber. That’s my thinking at least.
welp, time jump, you got your answers, she cursed mandalore from her illegitimate claim, even surrendered it to gideon but he wiped them out anyways
Well, we know that this will take a sour turn in some way.
Ever since the release of The Mandalorian, I feel that the last scene of this episode didn't age well considering that at some point Bo lost the Darksaber to Moff Gideon before Din Djarin manages to claim it after beating Gideon in the Season 2 finale of The Mandalorian.
Going to be interesting how Season 3 will play since I find Bo-Katan to be an extremely questionable character.
Bo Katan at this juncture isn't good or bad. She is what Din needs to become independent Thus She left Death Watch aka Din's cult to form Her own Clan (The Nite Owls).
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another episdoe less until the saddest moment in all star wars to me
I guess the Mandalorian are sort of like samurai in that they didn't like the fancy new weaponry like gatling guns and all because they were about tradition and the way of the sword.
No. It's actually the opposite. They're more like Spartans and Celts. The only things that are sacred to Mandalorians are their families and their armors. When it comes to weapons, they use what's most effective.
I'm with Rick on this one.
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I agree with Rick. That is all.
Rick is too much of a beserk fan haha dissapointed the characters didnt die
But yes Rick is right because the deaths of Sabines Family members would have given a darker tune to Rebels but unfortanetly it's a Disney Kids show.
It may have aired on Disney XD, but Disney didn't make the show. Even if it was, why would that matter? Disney kills off parents all the time.
@@vetarlittorf1807 did you read my Comment ? and it could give Sabine more Space to grow
in the Mandalorian it is said the armor does degrade ....And it does need to be re-forged. I forget exactly which episode .. Maul says "I claim this sword, and my rightful place as leader of Death watch " As we know you don't have to be a ruler and have the dark saber to rule the people .. And I'm sure Gideon didn't win it in combat there's no way he beat Bo Katan in a fight.. My guess is she was taken into custody and he took the saber from her... But either way I like Eric's explanation.... we'll have to wait and see what happens But I give the guys makingthe Mandalorian TV show credit for bringing it up right at the end of the season lmao for everybody to talk about
I swear the dialogue in this episode is even more cheesy than regular Rebels episodes.
:)
So Why must bo katan fight for the dark saber in the Mandalorian season 3 When here She just takes it. Make no sense
Bo was pretty much elected as leader in this episode then she lost dark Saber so now mandalorian don't see her as a good leader, if she actually won the dark Saber she would look like a good leader, but now the dark Saber is din djarin
Because she is not supposed to just take it, that's against their traditions and they did it anyway, to fellow Mandalorians it can make her appear weak. The clans there supported it, but that doesn't mean all Mandalorians will and there won't be detractors. Then she lost it, her people, and Mandalore. Taking it back in combat, as is tradition, is a symbolic victory as much as it is a physical victory. Now that Din has it, if he just gives it to her, it puts her rule in question again and makes her look like she was too weak to retrieve it herself.
TRAITOR 😠
Anyone else just not a fan of Sabine?
No
There's not much to love about her, but thankfully there's nothing to hate about her either. She's basically just an action character.