The car is build for local trafic and to cruise along the autobahn with about 120 or 130 kilometers per hour, and not this drivestyle. Than the Hybrides are not noisy at all. Yes, its scary to hear that petrol engine going in high RPM at first, but the engine is not going to break down. The engine is set to a max RPM of about 5500, so that's compared to a regular pertol car verry low.
this is a real life situation where you struggle to empty the battery on the autobahn :)) =)). own one, i'm really happy with it. my record fuel consumption is 3.58 l/100 km.
City driving: 2.3L/100Km Highway aprox. 100/130Km/h 4.9-6L/100Km For a petrol Hybrid car this is actually pretty good 😁 P.S driving a Toyota Auris/Corolla 1.8 Hybrid Black Edition MY2017
Bi Top Speed regelt er ab, deswegen geht die poweranzeige zurück. Die Batterie bewegt sich im Bereich 40% bis ca 70% (manchmal auch 75%) bei langer bergabfahrt. Kann man schön in der App Hybrid Assistent sehen.
I own one myself, a Toyota Auris Hybrid with 140HP. My hybrid battery is always full when on the AutoBahn and I cruise around at around 170-180km/h with the gauge still hovering at the top-end of ECO. At such speeds, there is NO engine noise...but there is a lot of wind noise! I have driven 200km/h in my Auris too but it is always too busy on the road, so I slow down to around 170-180km/h.
Sorry, I don’t have a comparison between both noise levels. I’ve been driving an Auris for some time and had the chance to drive a Prius for a short amount of time as well. Noise level depends upon multiple parameters (for example speed, tires, road conditions). My experience was that the cars are quite silent while driving on electric motor in the city and became noisy when accelerating fast. Once target speed was reached noise came down a bit in most cases. Usually I didn’t drove as shown in the video. I assume that people driving Auris HSD or Prius are trying to save fuel and drive ecologically friendly. Anticipating traffic will help and not going to higher speed (and noise levels) will do so, too. Ideally you’ll try both and decide which one you like better. The dashboard is quite different and not everyone likes the Prius' design.
@@Timo-M Thank you.Prius design is unusual, i'd say futuristic .Auris and Prius , both models are criticized due to poor sound isolation, comparing with VAG groups cars with the same price tags. Only Lexus CT200hybrid onthe same platform and engine has a bit higher quality of material and isolation. IMHO :)
good video and experience !:) we can see than the hybrid system is better in linear speed ... and it's not in the " philosophy" 's hybrid cars to overtake all the time.... intersting and informative experience on motorways !:)
+xavier lacorne Thank you. Hybrid performs very well with great fuel economy especially in urban areas and traffic jams. Even speed up to around 120 km/h seems OK, while higher speed comes with increased sound levels and higher consumption of course.
Why not overtaking? This is a common action for a car on the autobahn (since our's are free of charge unlike yours and therefore regularly well filled). It is worth to know in which way the hybrid works here.
Actually IMHO hybrid is ideal for lots of accelerating/slowing down. While with a normal car the kinetic energy is wasted when braking, a hybrid will store that energy so you can use it next time you want to accelerate.
Do you have comparative experience with an atmospheric petrol engine around 1600 ccm / 100 kW size? E.g. 1.6/97kW in Toyota Auris or 1.6 GDi/99kW in Hyundai i30/Kia Cee'd? I am thinking about buying Auris TS Hybrid, just wondering if it does better/worse in lower RPM and acceleration 60-100km/h due to higher torque. Also seems the e-CVT is quite noisy when going at full throttle. Thanks.
+Jenicek25 Acceleration with HSD is continuous, because there's no gear to shift. On the other hand, as you already mentioned, it's more noisy as it sounds like way higher RPM when accelerating. Once the target speed has reached, it calms down unless you're going at higher speeds. I strongly recommend doing a test drive on your own, since Hybrid and CVT needs getting used to.
We had auris hybrid touring sports and we reached 185 kmh, now we have a 2017 Toyota verso intense edition comfort pack with multidrive S and then we reached 210 kmh
That car has an EV mode, yet combustible engine kicks in even at city speeds. If you want to ride pure EV mode, better look at plug-in hybrids with larger battery.
What is still unclear is the detailled reaction at high speeds: Is the electric engine still helping? Where does the power come from? If the battery is almost empty the electric engine has to get the power from the mechanical engine via MG1, but there is nothing left since the mechanical engine is at the limit. So I assume the mechanical engine has to be able to fullfil the speed of 180 (200 in your desplay) alone. is that the case?
The interesting scene namely is 5:30 where the battery stops delivering enery (according to the display) but the speed increases though! Since the electric engine cannot help to accellerate, the mechanical must have done this. Or was it a downhill part of the road?
Actually, a second camera showing the road would have been nice. At 5:41 I mentioned that "it's going downhill and the top speed has been reached". My speculation is that battery power is used to "boost" acceleration as long as possible and after draining the battery it'll use the ICE to keep the car at the desired speed. As far as I know, the ICE is a 1.8 L engine with 99 HP. By the way, you'll might want try the "Yaris Hybrid Simulator".
the dashboard graphics don't always tally up with the centre console touchscreen graphics either, i'm less inclined to trust the dash graphics( like when the EV light comes on but the arrows do not show power going to or from battery...)... if you are using the car in sport mode, its best to put it in regen brake mode aswell.....
When u are going 80+ and u mash the acceleration do the battery push it a lil then go to gas.in other words I want to keep it at 80 and keep toching the acceleration when it drop lil blow 80 , dose the battery kick in or only gas at those high speeds
As far as I know the car makes a choice depending on parameters like battery charge, requested acceleration, required power to accelerate, RPM of the generators...
+Johan Jonsson As I was going that fast for a few minutes only, I don't have valid numbers measured by refueling. Eventually fuel economy even while going full speed was good and as far as I remember the energy monitor showed that some electrical energy was drawn from the generator and assumingly used for the electric engine at the same time. Maybe I'll check for some numbers and add the info.
+Johan Jonsson So I checked that recently. Consumption accoding to the car's info display was around 12 L/100 km while the battery has enough charge to power the electric engine to support the combustion engine accelerate as fast as possible. Haven't done long full speed rides, therefore no valid averaged data. "Your mileages may vary."
Tank should store 45 liters, depending on the driving style and conditions you can go more that 1000 km with one full tank - but „your mileage may vary“. Going full speed will dramatically increase fuel consumption, yet I’d consider this a general rule.
@@kernj6454 it should work if you contact local Toyota dealership. Check for all safety and the fueling program. I have never seen any Toyota 1.8L with CNG in USA, Europe, or Asia yet. It definitely needs ECU reprogramming.
ok,, just bought one the last days. is it ok for the acceleration to only occur sensibly when you're at max power? tried all 3 modes but the car was only moving forward when the engine was screaming. what is the average fuel consumption of the car on the BAB at around 140 kmh? thanks in advance :D
I do about 5.6L/100km on Eco Mode, with the cruise control at ~135 kph on a slightly hilly motorway (A10 Bordeaux / Niort in France). Oh I just realized you buy the car very recently. I hope you like it ! The engine is actually not that noisy, what is confusing is that it's not noisy in the same way and at the same time as a conventionnal car. You'll get used to it don't worry :) - EV is not really a mode because you can have both EV+Eco or EV+Pwr activated. I use it only when I just have to move the car a few yards or in indoor car parks. Don't try to use it to save gas! It won't works. - I use Eco Mode most of the time. It makes the gas pedal less responsive (I find it good in city) and moderate the use of AC. - I never really used Power Mode. Tried it a couple of time and I didn't find it useful. Maybe for driving on the mountain? On some occasions the engine is on when idling (if it's cold or if the battery is really low). You may find the fuel economy quite bad on these moments ; I was worried about that the first times but it's perfectly normal. It's because you don't move but the car use still use engine power to charge the battery (even if you don't see any arrow from the engine to the battery!). - Sorry for bad english ^^ -
When I press the pwr button my car gets MUCH more power. It's actually a bit ridiculous. I get 3.6 l/100km if I drive very gently, not pissing too many people off. I get the car warm then switch off heating to stay in electric mode as much as possible. Only switching it on when climbing hills as the engine is working anyway. Don't use cruise control if you want to save fuel. And it doesn't work if you are in B anyway.
Wenn man schnelle Wechsel zwischen Beschleunigen und Abbremsen vermeidet (und dann auch sparsamer fährt) treten solche schnellen Schwankungen seltener auf.
unfortunately the gas engine of all Toyota Hybrid is extremely loud... very low comfort on these cars... listen to that, awfull... not good for a modern car...but good to see that in every day traffic it´s hard to deplete the battery even if you push it
Absolutely. The combustible engine is quite noisy in my opinion, too. But it seems to run at a comparably good efficiency. Most people won’t drive full throttle on a daily basis, I guess. Yet I have to admit that driving a quieter car is much more relaxing.
Thank you for this video, I was planning to buy one of this but now I not, the noise is very bad, what I can say, the German cars are the best. End of story
While going at higher speeds was more on the noisy side in my opinion, I was able to drive through the city at quite low noise levels. Actually there was a pedestrian complaining about how quiet the car was, once. My recommendation is to try on your own. Of you’re interested into getting such a car, ask the dealership for a test drive. If your unfamiliar with hybrid cars, you’ll might want to ask for a salesperson to go with you on the test drive in order to give further information.
I didn’t want to cause concern, as I was driving with foresight on German Autobahn. Keeping a safe distance to other cars and watching for them possibly changing the lane is important.
It's save - on German Autobahns at least. This depends on the actual car and weather conditions, of course. I wouldn't want to drive that fast in a Seat Ibiza, or some other sub-compact car with small tires and bad suspension - if they ever reach that top speed, that is. In Germany, it works. Imho, it's because people tend to drive more disciplined in general. They usually never overtake other cars on the right, but on the left, for example.
Sorry that it wasn’t acceptable for you. You’re free to mute or skip. Let me assure you that I worked on my English language skills since the recording of that video and if I’ll do a video in English again, an improvement should be noticeable.
Battery will never depleted. 0 level is still about 60% in actual capacity. Full is about, 85%, that's why it last 1 million km 15 years
If you floor the gas yes it is noisy but if you accelerate without rush it will be smooth and quiet I believe. Thank you for the vid.
The car is build for local trafic and to cruise along the autobahn with about 120 or 130 kilometers per hour, and not this drivestyle. Than the Hybrides are not noisy at all. Yes, its scary to hear that petrol engine going in high RPM at first, but the engine is not going to break down. The engine is set to a max RPM of about 5500, so that's compared to a regular pertol car verry low.
this is a real life situation where you struggle to empty the battery on the autobahn :)) =)). own one, i'm really happy with it. my record fuel consumption is 3.58 l/100 km.
Normal driving or like grandpa
My record is 66.6 mpg , city driving
City driving: 2.3L/100Km
Highway aprox. 100/130Km/h 4.9-6L/100Km
For a petrol Hybrid car this is actually pretty good 😁
P.S driving a Toyota Auris/Corolla 1.8 Hybrid Black Edition MY2017
Bi Top Speed regelt er ab, deswegen geht die poweranzeige zurück. Die Batterie bewegt sich im Bereich 40% bis ca 70% (manchmal auch 75%) bei langer bergabfahrt. Kann man schön in der App Hybrid Assistent sehen.
Wow the autobahn is this smooth!!!
I find my Toyota Auris 2014 Hybrid to have a reassuringly stable chassis on motorways.
this car should never leave the city :) slow and noisy acceleration makes it very uncomfortable while high speed cruising.
+milli pekmez Exactly. It's great in the city and makes it a pleasure to handle a traffic jam, too.
At 1:50 you can see the car is preety calm when cruising, 140 is more than preety much every country speed limit (except germany's autobahn)
So I have to buy a new car to go cross-country?
I own one myself, a Toyota Auris Hybrid with 140HP. My hybrid battery is always full when on the AutoBahn and I cruise around at around 170-180km/h with the gauge still hovering at the top-end of ECO. At such speeds, there is NO engine noise...but there is a lot of wind noise! I have driven 200km/h in my Auris too but it is always too busy on the road, so I slow down to around 170-180km/h.
Auris 2013 ? Or restyling 2016? 5 doors or touring sport wagon? Thanks!
2016 model has better interior, insulation, and tail light
Timo, what do you think about Prius 2011 and Auris 2011 ? kinda the same engine, specs and power. Is prius less noisy than Auris? thank you.
Sorry, I don’t have a comparison between both noise levels. I’ve been driving an Auris for some time and had the chance to drive a Prius for a short amount of time as well. Noise level depends upon multiple parameters (for example speed, tires, road conditions).
My experience was that the cars are quite silent while driving on electric motor in the city and became noisy when accelerating fast. Once target speed was reached noise came down a bit in most cases. Usually I didn’t drove as shown in the video.
I assume that people driving Auris HSD or Prius are trying to save fuel and drive ecologically friendly. Anticipating traffic will help and not going to higher speed (and noise levels) will do so, too.
Ideally you’ll try both and decide which one you like better. The dashboard is quite different and not everyone likes the Prius' design.
@@Timo-M Thank you.Prius design is unusual, i'd say futuristic .Auris and Prius , both models are criticized due to poor sound isolation, comparing with VAG groups cars with the same price tags. Only Lexus CT200hybrid onthe same platform and engine has a bit higher quality of material and isolation. IMHO :)
Why is that sign in the middle? My car has same problem
I own one, she's a noisy beast when she overtakes, a little bit embarrassing so I tend not to do it lol.
A car build to cruise relaxed saving fuel and what do this German casper test?: High speed performance 😢.
Good budget car 👍🏼 with a mixed
5l fuel consumption
Didn't know they made an electric engine.
good video and experience !:) we can see than the hybrid system is better in linear speed ... and it's not in the " philosophy" 's hybrid cars to overtake all the time.... intersting and informative experience on motorways !:)
+xavier lacorne Thank you. Hybrid performs very well with great fuel economy especially in urban areas and traffic jams. Even speed up to around 120 km/h seems OK, while higher speed comes with increased sound levels and higher consumption of course.
Why not overtaking? This is a common action for a car on the autobahn (since our's are free of charge unlike yours and therefore regularly well filled). It is worth to know in which way the hybrid works here.
Actually IMHO hybrid is ideal for lots of accelerating/slowing down. While with a normal car the kinetic energy is wasted when braking, a hybrid will store that energy so you can use it next time you want to accelerate.
kada jawi most of it*
Also hybrids have less drag than normal cars so that's anither benefit
Do you have comparative experience with an atmospheric petrol engine around 1600 ccm / 100 kW size? E.g. 1.6/97kW in Toyota Auris or 1.6 GDi/99kW in Hyundai i30/Kia Cee'd? I am thinking about buying Auris TS Hybrid, just wondering if it does better/worse in lower RPM and acceleration 60-100km/h due to higher torque. Also seems the e-CVT is quite noisy when going at full throttle. Thanks.
+Jenicek25 Acceleration with HSD is continuous, because there's no gear to shift. On the other hand, as you already mentioned, it's more noisy as it sounds like way higher RPM when accelerating. Once the target speed has reached, it calms down unless you're going at higher speeds. I strongly recommend doing a test drive on your own, since Hybrid and CVT needs getting used to.
We had auris hybrid touring sports and we reached 185 kmh, now we have a 2017 Toyota verso intense edition comfort pack with multidrive S and then we reached 210 kmh
Are you blind its went 200 klms not 185
@@celinrharty5300 you don't know the difference in gps speedometer and car speedometer, dont you?
@@karlmogenslarsen I don't think he or she knows
Up to what speed you can drive with battery before the petrol engine starts and for how long in autobahn and in the city center?
That car has an EV mode, yet combustible engine kicks in even at city speeds. If you want to ride pure EV mode, better look at plug-in hybrids with larger battery.
looks more like a speed limiter and not so much dependent on battery level
What is still unclear is the detailled reaction at high speeds: Is the electric engine still helping? Where does the power come from? If the battery is almost empty the electric engine has to get the power from the mechanical engine via MG1, but there is nothing left since the mechanical engine is at the limit. So I assume the mechanical engine has to be able to fullfil the speed of 180 (200 in your desplay) alone. is that the case?
The interesting scene namely is 5:30 where the battery stops delivering enery (according to the display) but the speed increases though! Since the electric engine cannot help to accellerate, the mechanical must have done this. Or was it a downhill part of the road?
Actually, a second camera showing the road would have been nice. At 5:41 I mentioned that "it's going downhill and the top speed has been reached". My speculation is that battery power is used to "boost" acceleration as long as possible and after draining the battery it'll use the ICE to keep the car at the desired speed. As far as I know, the ICE is a 1.8 L engine with 99 HP. By the way, you'll might want try the "Yaris Hybrid Simulator".
the dashboard graphics don't always tally up with the centre console touchscreen graphics either, i'm less inclined to trust the dash graphics( like when the EV light comes on but the arrows do not show power going to or from battery...)... if you are using the car in sport mode, its best to put it in regen brake mode aswell.....
Full speed how many Km does it make ?
When u are going 80+ and u mash the acceleration do the battery push it a lil then go to gas.in other words I want to keep it at 80 and keep toching the acceleration when it drop lil blow 80 , dose the battery kick in or only gas at those high speeds
As far as I know the car makes a choice depending on parameters like battery charge, requested acceleration, required power to accelerate, RPM of the generators...
@@Timo-M yes with CNG ones it heat up the car dose run on CNG alone after so it will be doing the same but with CNG so it should work
More these videos!
Wtf are you doing here
question about fueleconomy what is the milage when doing this kind of driving
+Johan Jonsson As I was going that fast for a few minutes only, I don't have valid numbers measured by refueling. Eventually fuel economy even while going full speed was good and as far as I remember the energy monitor showed that some electrical energy was drawn from the generator and assumingly used for the electric engine at the same time. Maybe I'll check for some numbers and add the info.
+Johan Jonsson So I checked that recently. Consumption accoding to the car's info display was around 12 L/100 km while the battery has enough charge to power the electric engine to support the combustion engine accelerate as fast as possible. Haven't done long full speed rides, therefore no valid averaged data. "Your mileages may vary."
how far can you go on one full tank?
Tank should store 45 liters, depending on the driving style and conditions you can go more that 1000 km with one full tank - but „your mileage may vary“.
Going full speed will dramatically increase fuel consumption, yet I’d consider this a general rule.
About 800-900km
Can a battery hybrid car get a CNG kit installed in .can CNG in a hybrid powered car work ???..... Like in that car u was driving
As far as I know, there are
some modified cars. Search the internet for Toyota Hybrid CNG.
@@Timo-M I did not seeing it at all
Don't do stupid thing with Toyota hybrid. It will works fine 1 million km if you maintain it
@@rondhole CNG in my country dose go very far . Liquid gas is to expensive...so I want to combine the two .just want to know if it will work
@@kernj6454 it should work if you contact local Toyota dealership. Check for all safety and the fueling program. I have never seen any Toyota 1.8L with CNG in USA, Europe, or Asia yet. It definitely needs ECU reprogramming.
Lexus es 300h next plz
pwr mode on?
+V.C. Normal mode. It didn't seem to make a difference to me, when going full throttle.
ok,, just bought one the last days. is it ok for the acceleration to only occur sensibly when you're at max power? tried all 3 modes but the car was only moving forward when the engine was screaming. what is the average fuel consumption of the car on the BAB at around 140 kmh?
thanks in advance :D
I do about 5.6L/100km on Eco Mode, with the cruise control at ~135 kph on a slightly hilly motorway (A10 Bordeaux / Niort in France).
Oh I just realized you buy the car very recently. I hope you like it !
The engine is actually not that noisy, what is confusing is that it's not noisy in the same way and at the same time as a conventionnal car. You'll get used to it don't worry :)
- EV is not really a mode because you can have both EV+Eco or EV+Pwr activated. I use it only when I just have to move the car a few yards or in indoor car parks. Don't try to use it to save gas! It won't works.
- I use Eco Mode most of the time. It makes the gas pedal less responsive (I find it good in city) and moderate the use of AC.
- I never really used Power Mode. Tried it a couple of time and I didn't find it useful. Maybe for driving on the mountain?
On some occasions the engine is on when idling (if it's cold or if the battery is really low). You may find the fuel economy quite bad on these moments ; I was worried about that the first times but it's perfectly normal. It's because you don't move but the car use still use engine power to charge the battery (even if you don't see any arrow from the engine to the battery!).
- Sorry for bad english ^^ -
When I press the pwr button my car gets MUCH more power.
It's actually a bit ridiculous.
I get 3.6 l/100km if I drive very gently, not pissing too many people off.
I get the car warm then switch off heating to stay in electric mode as much as possible.
Only switching it on when climbing hills as the engine is working anyway.
Don't use cruise control if you want to save fuel. And it doesn't work if you are in B anyway.
@@bobziho merci for all this infos ur english is good actualy take care
this is so bad engine sound
Quite anoid and disturb the instrument movement and the cvt
Maniac!
Wow aber der Zeiger links bewegt sich ja die ganze Zeit hin und her, irritiert und nervt das nicht?
Wenn man schnelle
Wechsel zwischen Beschleunigen und Abbremsen vermeidet (und dann auch sparsamer fährt) treten solche schnellen Schwankungen seltener auf.
unfortunately the gas engine of all Toyota Hybrid is extremely loud... very low comfort on these cars... listen to that, awfull... not good for a modern car...but good to see that in every day traffic it´s hard to deplete the battery even if you push it
Absolutely. The combustible engine is quite noisy in my opinion, too. But it seems to run at a comparably good efficiency. Most people won’t drive full throttle on a daily basis, I guess. Yet I have to admit that driving a quieter car is much more relaxing.
Stop talking dude.
Thank you for this video, I was planning to buy one of this but now I not, the noise is very bad, what I can say, the German cars are the best. End of story
While going at higher speeds was more on the noisy side in my opinion, I was able to drive through the city at quite low noise levels. Actually there was a pedestrian complaining about how quiet the car was, once. My recommendation is to try on your own. Of you’re interested into getting such a car, ask the dealership for a test drive. If your unfamiliar with hybrid cars, you’ll might want to ask for a salesperson to go with you on the test drive in order to give further information.
fahr mall mit echo mode und fahre erst mall auf die landstraße um die battery etwas aufzuladen oder soll ich dir zeigen wie man fährt
Why would you want to drive that fast? It is not safe!
I didn’t want to cause concern, as I was driving with foresight on German Autobahn. Keeping a safe distance to other cars and watching for them possibly changing the lane is important.
It's save - on German Autobahns at least. This depends on the actual car and weather conditions, of course. I wouldn't want to drive that fast in a Seat Ibiza, or some other sub-compact car with small tires and bad suspension - if they ever reach that top speed, that is.
In Germany, it works. Imho, it's because people tend to drive more disciplined in general. They usually never overtake other cars on the right, but on the left, for example.
Please stop speaking english.
Sorry that it wasn’t acceptable for you. You’re free to mute or skip.
Let me assure you that I worked on my English language skills since the recording of that video and if I’ll do a video in English again, an improvement should be noticeable.
@@Timo-M im sorry
@@Timo-M Your english is good. There will alwaya be these kind of people:)
Can’t do 0 to 60 in under 2 seconds 👎
Richard Johnson doesn't cost over 100.000 and it is in an actual production line unlike the car you mentioned.