I'm old. When I was a kid bashing my JRX Pro around the driveway we had 7,2 volt battery packs. Basically it was 6 C batteries. 78 MPH would have been the world speed record. So much has changed. Cheap low end cars today, would have dominated the tracks back in the 90's.
I agree. I'm from the same era. Charge the packs all night for ten minutes of fun. My first kit was the Tamiya super hornet. Mechanical speed control and all. I think the brushless power systems are unmatched in speed and efficiency which may be the main difference between old-school and new school.
Those original cars from the 70s-90s are what makes the craziest cars of today! Everything starts somewhere. I'll never forget as I started with a little X MOD from Radio Shack in 2004 when I was 6 years of age, (I am 26 now). If I did not have my little XMod, I probably wouldn't even be doing RC cars right now. It opened my mind to appreciate building, customizing & Innovating things of today!
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Odd wheel choice. I have these wheels too and they don’t speed run very well. Otherwise, cool! Thanks for sharing the logs, the most impressive part is the wicked low ripple for such high amp draw
Thank you I appreciate that! Glad you found the logs useful! To be fair, I didn't think I'd be over 100 on 3s, maybe 4s. Gotta go back to grps. These tires look amazing but they don't hold up well. Had to try them, never did before!
@@InnovationRC proline makes on-road wheels that look pretty but you know as well as anyone that GRP is the bare minimum for serious speed runs. Beyond that, you know, BSR foams. But yes, the logs are what speed runs are made of. Understanding the data is the key to huge speed, especially with such low voltage. 80+ on 2S is huge, especially with a big fat heavy car
It would be cool if you played around with wing shapes and maybe made a smoke chamber to test efficiency. I could see ESCs with integrated active wing tunes in the future; with a dedicated servo port for wings.
Carbon interferes with radio waves. I like how the rear spoiler pops up to block the antennae when deployed as an airbrake when it's driving away from you.
@toolbaggers people have flown carbon fiber quadcopters for several miles of distance without any issues. I am confident he will do just fine driving an rc car within visual line of sight.
Very cool. Speed running is easier for me as I don't put any value in them. Just cheap cars and used electronics. Your stuff is impressive. One day I might get back to my Limitless.
@@InnovationRC I just got it, I’m going to take my time with it. Tomorrow I’m going out with the Felony I just got this week, it got the Castle 1717 Combo today. This Hobby is addictive 🤯
I had recently tried my first max6 1750kv combo in a k6s on 6s and was blown away with the adjustability from the punch down to 2 through 8 and the tire choices of copperheads, 4s LPs and 6s backflips . At 2 the whole travel of the trigger increases speed like a real sports car accelerates . At 6-8 punch it lifts the fronts too much for my liking . I never realized a lower punch of 2 would actually drive and feel better . That’s with a 20t on 6s with the 4s it feels like it’s ready to race on a dirt or grass track . Dang dude , yours is hauling serious tail . 👍
Once I see these tires I knew he was gonna blow a tire 😂 Hey man great video now make a video explaining and showing what parts we need to do a front motor in a thypon that’s great
This is a really awesome idea, tho flawed. With the adjustablities and configuration of today's modern transmitters it should be reasonably easy to control the amount of downforce in conjunction with the amount of throttle or pull of the trigger. Possibly with advanced transmitters and telemetry this could be controlled by motor rpm and/or speed. Maybe even both. I see good things here in the world of high speed RC racing
I can easily do that with a flip of a switch too. Allow it to work in line with throttle. But I wanted to specifically test the speeds with difference factors of downforce. I wouldn't say flawed, you just weren't informed Shockwave could do that. Telemetry I try to stay away from, more wires and stuff to go wrong... Gotta keep things simple the faster you go with these things. But as you said, this technology changes and evolves fast! I just prefer to be simple and consistent
Because the motor draws a lot in general, plus the gearing stacked that high. But if the battery isn't capable it won't draw that amperage to begin with and voltage will drop significantly
Nice it's a great motor! Depends on the voltage you run! I was running super low voltage so 2-4s max with the overdrive ratio. If your doing 4-6s you want like 30p/39s to start.
Hi again I have a question brother I’m trying to get my rig ready for speed runing I do remember you saying suspension is the most important when comes to speed running what you did to vision and Spartan at the front end as far as the shocks once I remove the shocks what should I get to replace them? I know you say tie rod, but is there a specific length or brandthat you would suggest
I don't have the specific length. But I used the rods in the front. But you need to make sure you have a super smooth road. What you should do is install them, then adjust the length of them once it's on the road and completely loaded (has the running weight). Make sure the front is always lower than the rear so aerodynamically you won't lift in the front at speed 💪
Hi man. I have two 10.000 mah 4s packs for my outcast 8s. After about 30-35 charging cycles they started to heat up and puff up while using them pretty hard. After i stop using them, i let them sit 6-7 hours and the packs go back to normal. The punch is also not like it used to be. I plan to buy more packs because of the good price and long run time, but i wonder what i can do to prevent the swelling and heating up. I run a max5 with an 1100kv spektrum motor on 25/39 gearing. My esc is set on medium low voltage cutoff. After LVC is hit, i check the batteries and the cells are about 3.4v/ cell. After 5-6 hours of letting them cool down the voltage rises up to 3.6- 3.65v/ cell. If i set my esc to high LVC, the cells are at about 3.65v then after a couple of hours they go to about 3.75v /cell. Shoud i keep my esc on high lvc? Thanks
@@InnovationRC completley cold when started bashing. They don’t heat up at all when charging or anything. I keep them at storage charge 3.85v /cell. Longest i kept them fully charged was about one day.
I use a sky rc Ultimate Duo. It charges everything in under an hour. 200 watts per port and don't have to worry about an external power supply. Great charger
@InnovationRC ohhh ok. Thank you. Glad to see u back on some speed runs again. BTW, Nice batteries. I live in Alaska, so my limitless speed runs are over for this year, but I'm definitely going to check out your packs for next summers runs.
Dude you know better than that those tires not good for speed runs grp s or try the knew proline menace just ran 114 mph on the prolines and my felony has been 119 mph on Hoons no issues or damage to the tires H and w racing channel love the knew batteries going to grab some do a review cheers
Yeah I know, I've been wanting to try these tires out for the longest time. Not a single video I've made with them ever so this is the first and last! I'll have to go back to GRPs.
@@InnovationRC have a look at the knew pro line menace tires bud I just got some ran 114 mph in my stockish felony 6 s seem good no issues glue etc it depends on the weight of the car I’ve found over 13 pounds foams are safer cheers bud love your channel gonna grab some of your batteries this winter H and w racing channel
I use the sky RC GPS speed meter. I like it way more than the Bluetooth one, don't trust the Bluetooth due to many glitches people had, jokingly posting it on social media I lost trust in it.
@@InnovationRC yeah I have both sky Rc speedos yours seems to be a lot more readable than the one I got. It is very dim and very difficult to read so I’ve been using the blue tooth one and it doesn’t seem to be reading right. I’m getting the same pulls and sometimes there’s 20 mph in the difference
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I'm old. When I was a kid bashing my JRX Pro around the driveway we had 7,2 volt battery packs. Basically it was 6 C batteries. 78 MPH would have been the world speed record. So much has changed. Cheap low end cars today, would have dominated the tracks back in the 90's.
I agree. I'm from the same era. Charge the packs all night for ten minutes of fun. My first kit was the Tamiya super hornet. Mechanical speed control and all. I think the brushless power systems are unmatched in speed and efficiency which may be the main difference between old-school and new school.
so true!
Those original cars from the 70s-90s are what makes the craziest cars of today! Everything starts somewhere. I'll never forget as I started with a little X MOD from Radio Shack in 2004 when I was 6 years of age, (I am 26 now). If I did not have my little XMod, I probably wouldn't even be doing RC cars right now. It opened my mind to appreciate building, customizing & Innovating things of today!
@@InnovationRC those xmod days were awesome. I upgraded the hell out of my mine. Great lil starter rc. 👍
MY MAN , DID YOU FORGET PAN CARS ? LOOK UP PAN CARS AT VELODROME WITH MODIFIED MOTOR, ASSISTANT USED GIANT BASEBALL GLOVE TO CATCH CAR WHEN PITTING !!!
That’s an awesome build . I build them for jumping but this looks way cool as well . Speedsters 👍
That's awesome! I appreciate that as well!
Ordering a couple of those batteries for my new build. Very impressed and thank you for the informative video as always sir 🫡
Glad you found it informative! I appreciate you for watching, thank you!
Love this. Great to see you back and having fun again man
Bro you’re an absolute mad man, that was so bad ass!!
Thank you! I try my best, it can surely be a lot faster with those voltages though
You've got a Kloddike bar in it , Brother that's hilarious.
There's a smaller motor in my battery lawn mower!!!
CRAZY that's what it is CRAZY!!!!!!!
Ralphie
Just in the nick O time with that rain
Man nice video can’t wait to see u back at the og speed run spot 🎉
After everything it's always been there. Feels like forever since!
Odd wheel choice. I have these wheels too and they don’t speed run very well. Otherwise, cool! Thanks for sharing the logs, the most impressive part is the wicked low ripple for such high amp draw
Thank you I appreciate that! Glad you found the logs useful!
To be fair, I didn't think I'd be over 100 on 3s, maybe 4s. Gotta go back to grps. These tires look amazing but they don't hold up well. Had to try them, never did before!
@@InnovationRC proline makes on-road wheels that look pretty but you know as well as anyone that GRP is the bare minimum for serious speed runs. Beyond that, you know, BSR foams.
But yes, the logs are what speed runs are made of. Understanding the data is the key to huge speed, especially with such low voltage. 80+ on 2S is huge, especially with a big fat heavy car
Great video! That wing is so cool. So Fast!
Appreciate that for sure!
It would be cool if you played around with wing shapes and maybe made a smoke chamber to test efficiency. I could see ESCs with integrated active wing tunes in the future; with a dedicated servo port for wings.
Carbon interferes with radio waves. I like how the rear spoiler pops up to block the antennae when deployed as an airbrake when it's driving away from you.
Never had a range issue with shockwave. I've also driven at least twice the distance at another road to go faster
@@InnovationRC It's one of those things you find out when you operate at the limit. It's not like the Ocean Gate sub imploded on it's 1st dive.
@toolbaggers people have flown carbon fiber quadcopters for several miles of distance without any issues.
I am confident he will do just fine driving an rc car within visual line of sight.
The antenna placement is pretty close to the carbon fiber though. I would change that if the goal was long range.
Very cool. Speed running is easier for me as I don't put any value in them. Just cheap cars and used electronics. Your stuff is impressive. One day I might get back to my Limitless.
Thank you! I appreciate a visually nice build a little more than just slapping big electronics in. I see where you enjoy for sure!
When I say I called that speed both times you did great 👍🏾
Have a great perspective of speed! It's fun to guess MPH before the gps shows the answer!
@@InnovationRC I’m in Washington DC how much for that RC
That motor is my choice for the Limitless I’m working on, pretty cool video 👍
It's a sick motor! Great for 4 and 6s lipo! I'm sure your limitless will be a beast!
@@InnovationRC I just got it, I’m going to take my time with it. Tomorrow I’m going out with the Felony I just got this week, it got the Castle 1717 Combo today. This Hobby is addictive 🤯
@@memphysmoto2649super addictive for sure
That car does have some money wrapped up in her but if you build them over time it's not so bad.
Ralphie
I had recently tried my first max6 1750kv combo in a k6s on 6s and was blown away with the adjustability from the punch down to 2 through 8 and the tire choices of copperheads, 4s LPs and 6s backflips . At 2 the whole travel of the trigger increases speed like a real sports car accelerates . At 6-8 punch it lifts the fronts too much for my liking . I never realized a lower punch of 2 would actually drive and feel better . That’s with a 20t on 6s with the 4s it feels like it’s ready to race on a dirt or grass track . Dang dude , yours is hauling serious tail . 👍
I recently realized that using punch control hinders performance. I want full power immediately from a dead stop
Hell yeah bad azz
Epic car you have there.
Thank you I appreciate that 💪
super impreasive bro. Keep doing gour thang with these great videos 🔥🔥💪🏽💪🏽
Appreciate that 💪
Low cell speedruns is my jam bro. Going out today with my stock chassis typhon to try to break into the 120s on 3s
Maybe you could incorporate some sort of disk brake system to reduce the breaking load on the motor and ESC? This car is really impressive!
It would always help, but it's setup for a single pass only so using the brakes once is usually fine 🤠
I have your 4s cnhl 10,000 and I friggen love them!!!!
Super glad and happy you do! 💪
Once I see these tires I knew he was gonna blow a tire 😂
Hey man great video now make a video explaining and showing what parts we need to do a front motor in a thypon that’s great
I appreciate that thank you!
You should have called your channel RickyBobbyRC 😂
2S = 78mph 😲 🤯 😲 👍 👍 👍
Crazy! 80 mph is a stock infraction/ Felony 6s top speed!
@InnovationRC I know.!! 🤯 😲 🤯
Lfg brother!! 🤘🏻 epic.
Appreciate that! Thank you 💪
This is a really awesome idea, tho flawed. With the adjustablities and configuration of today's modern transmitters it should be reasonably easy to control the amount of downforce in conjunction with the amount of throttle or pull of the trigger. Possibly with advanced transmitters and telemetry this could be controlled by motor rpm and/or speed. Maybe even both. I see good things here in the world of high speed RC racing
I can easily do that with a flip of a switch too. Allow it to work in line with throttle. But I wanted to specifically test the speeds with difference factors of downforce. I wouldn't say flawed, you just weren't informed Shockwave could do that. Telemetry I try to stay away from, more wires and stuff to go wrong... Gotta keep things simple the faster you go with these things. But as you said, this technology changes and evolves fast! I just prefer to be simple and consistent
@InnovationRC i very much agree. Using flawed wasn't the term I should have used. Well you know what a little contex can do 😁
Hey bud great video, how are you pulling such high amps out of a 3s??
Because the motor draws a lot in general, plus the gearing stacked that high. But if the battery isn't capable it won't draw that amperage to begin with and voltage will drop significantly
your carbon wing has a high chance a signal drop directly next two each other
AWESOME!!!! I have a typhon 1721/2400 set up..wats a good gear ratio 4 max speed run?
Nice it's a great motor! Depends on the voltage you run! I was running super low voltage so 2-4s max with the overdrive ratio. If your doing 4-6s you want like 30p/39s to start.
I'm runnin 6s
U added those wings your self ? Or the rc car came with it like that I like how you can move it up or down
That is all myself, I built it myself
@@InnovationRC that’s sick bro
Hi again I have a question brother I’m trying to get my rig ready for speed runing I do remember you saying suspension is the most important when comes to speed running what you did to vision and Spartan at the front end as far as the shocks once I remove the shocks what should I get to replace them? I know you say tie rod, but is there a specific length or brandthat you would suggest
I don't have the specific length. But I used the rods in the front. But you need to make sure you have a super smooth road. What you should do is install them, then adjust the length of them once it's on the road and completely loaded (has the running weight). Make sure the front is always lower than the rear so aerodynamically you won't lift in the front at speed 💪
@@InnovationRC awsome sir thanks a lot
I think I got it figured out.
Sweet buggy. Do you happen to know what those wheels weigh?
When are you going to offer your batteries on Amazon
They should be on there. Maybe not the new 2 & 3s yet
less waffle more action
You can easily take your finger and scroll past the stuff you don't like 😀
@@InnovationRC thanks for the tip, i'll give it a try :-)
Hi man. I have two 10.000 mah 4s packs for my outcast 8s. After about 30-35 charging cycles they started to heat up and puff up while using them pretty hard. After i stop using them, i let them sit 6-7 hours and the packs go back to normal. The punch is also not like it used to be. I plan to buy more packs because of the good price and long run time, but i wonder what i can do to prevent the swelling and heating up. I run a max5 with an 1100kv spektrum motor on 25/39 gearing. My esc is set on medium low voltage cutoff. After LVC is hit, i check the batteries and the cells are about 3.4v/ cell. After 5-6 hours of letting them cool down the voltage rises up to 3.6- 3.65v/ cell. If i set my esc to high LVC, the cells are at about 3.65v then after a couple of hours they go to about 3.75v /cell. Shoud i keep my esc on high lvc? Thanks
Do you keep the fully charged when you don't use them? Or are they already warm before you start bashing?
@@InnovationRC completley cold when started bashing. They don’t heat up at all when charging or anything. I keep them at storage charge 3.85v /cell. Longest i kept them fully charged was about one day.
What charger do you use for the QS8 plugs
I use a sky rc Ultimate Duo. It charges everything in under an hour. 200 watts per port and don't have to worry about an external power supply. Great charger
@@InnovationRC good deal thanks for the reply and the information on a charger
How do u stretch the chassis?
It's on a Kraton EXB chassis. Need longer driveshafts and chassis braces
@InnovationRC ohhh ok. Thank you. Glad to see u back on some speed runs again. BTW, Nice batteries. I live in Alaska, so my limitless speed runs are over for this year, but I'm definitely going to check out your packs for next summers runs.
Dude you know better than that those tires not good for speed runs grp s or try the knew proline menace just ran 114 mph on the prolines and my felony has been 119 mph on Hoons no issues or damage to the tires H and w racing channel love the knew batteries going to grab some do a review cheers
Yeah I know, I've been wanting to try these tires out for the longest time. Not a single video I've made with them ever so this is the first and last! I'll have to go back to GRPs.
@@InnovationRC have a look at the knew pro line menace tires bud I just got some ran 114 mph in my stockish felony 6 s seem good no issues glue etc it depends on the weight of the car I’ve found over 13 pounds foams are safer cheers bud love your channel gonna grab some of your batteries this winter H and w racing channel
Hey Brother what GPS Speedo are you using.
I use the sky RC GPS speed meter. I like it way more than the Bluetooth one, don't trust the Bluetooth due to many glitches people had, jokingly posting it on social media I lost trust in it.
@@InnovationRC yeah I have both sky Rc speedos yours seems to be a lot more readable than the one I got. It is very dim and very difficult to read so I’ve been using the blue tooth one and it doesn’t seem to be reading right. I’m getting the same pulls and sometimes there’s 20 mph in the difference
Your tires are killer are those solid rubber
Yup they are rubber but they didn't hold well after 105 mph