Antônio, Domingos, and Porfirio speaking Mirandese | Romance languages | Wikitongues
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- Antônio, Domingos, and Porfirio speaking Mirandese, one of the Romance languages of Portugal.
This video was recorded by Wikitongues co-founder Daniel Bogre Udell in Miranda Do Douro, Portugal. Mirandese (natively, Mirandês) is an Iberian Romance language spoken by some 9,000 people, principally in the towns and villages of Portugal's Miranda do Douro municipality. Though historically only a spoken language, Mirandese developed a written culture in the twentieth century, which persists today in the works of Amadeu Fereira and Fracisco Niebro. It enjoys official recognition on the local, national, and international level, as a regional language of the European Union. A member of the Astur-Leonese dialect continuum, it is most closely related to Leonese, Asturian, Cantabrian, and Extrameduran, but also to Galician, Fala, Portuguese, and Spanish. Read more on Wikipedia: bit.ly/2db0tiA.
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Mirandese is a language of the Astur-Leonese family, it is normal for people further north on the peninsula to understand them better than those in the south...
I'm from northern Portugal (porto) and I find it quite easy to understand, although I don't know the meaning of some words. Their accent sounds a lot like my great grandma :) Beautiful language and national pride!
My dad is from valadares, vila nova de gaia, and it is easy for me to understand, although I was born in the US. Lol
Lu is that u? 😳
@@LeaD2000 SSIIIM AHAHAHA. já é a segunda vez que nos encontramos em comentários randomly hahaha
Mirando Do Douro está no norte de Portugal, a zoa onde vive esta xente quédate moi preto, raro serías q non os entenderas
I'm a Galician, Spanish and Portuguese speaker and I understood 100% of this. Very similar to Galician.
Me too, Crystal clear!
I'm Galician too, and yes it is so similar XD
Apparently it belongs to the Astur-Leonese linguistic subgroup
I am a Brazilian Portuguese speaker, I understand 99%, it seems to me that they are speaking Portuguese from Portugal, I don't see any difference
@@joasveiga6885 there is a big difference, trust me 🤣
i find this very beautiful to hear. The pronunciation sounds very portuguese to me.
As a native speaker of Portuguese I can say that I could understand many things :v
A intelligibility of, at least, 70%.
It has the phonetic from trasmontan portuguese
Not so much as standard portuguese, because it doesn't reduce so much the vowels.
@@rodrigozonzin5835 as a Spanish native speaker I can understand 90%. It seems a step among Spanish and Portuguese
@@kevindasilvagoncalves468 Yes, but in Northern Portugal people don't reduce vowels.
hermosa llingua mirandesa, la mesma llingua que falamos nós en Asturies
@General Franco 🤷♂️
Ao menos protegemo-la
E mais perto de Portugues
En Asturias también se habla gallego en el occidente e incluso transiciones entre el gallego y el asturiano. Además del asturiano claro.
@Franco Alvarez normal.Y l'asturiano ta mui influyido pol castellano,infelizmente.
It's very beautiful, I just saw this video : th-cam.com/video/q8ArpaUKq1E/w-d-xo.html
and it seems to me this one right away, which is a coincidence too
I am galician and I understood all of it . It is like rural Galician with a bit of northern portugueese sounded sibilants and darker ls and more ll sounds like Asturian . They use like many older people in Galicia e northern Portugal , an " e " sound in the end of infinitives : " comere " facere " " dicire " ... My parents are from a village 13 km far from the portugueese border , and those folks sound a lot like my parents village elders .
A capital da velha Callecia era Braga. Temos o mesmo sangue, filhos de Bre O Ghann. Abraços do Brasil
I am from the other side! Near soajo, in the Peneda-Geres area..they really do sound like the older rural people, for sure!
They sound like my grandparents, from a small town in the coast of Peru
Sounds lovely! I'm always fascinated by how many other Romance languages there are besides the mainstream ones. My fave of the 3 is the smaller one in the middle. What an adorable face :3
Como asturianu falante que soi. Entiendo el 95% de tolo que dicen estos peisanos. Que nun desapaezca nunca esta llingua. Saludos dende Asturias
Ola! Como de parecido é o mirandés ó asturianu?
@@montimuros2837 mirandês é asturo-leonês com um sotaque e grafia portuguesa.
@@montimuros2837 é uma das variantes da lingua astur-leonesa.
Saludos do Brasil, amigo.
Como hablante de español entendí tambien al rededor del 95% esto es fascinante!
Tenho um antepassado de Miranda do D'Ouro. Que bom ouvir a língua Mirandesa!
How beautiful to hear these stories told with so intense memories by these well-lived men - and in this beautiful language! And to have it all registered forever here. I can only hope that this incredible spreading of information through internet will help languages - and cultures - to survive, and not the opposite. Thank you!
❤
I am from Porto and this reminds me of my grandfather. I understand everything
I am a Spanish speaker and I can understand like 80% of this. However, I know some portuguese, so I believe that helps me a lot to understand it.
I understand 98% and I don't speak portuguese.
I work with a supposed Spanish guy and I understand about 70/80% of Spanish if spoken slowly but he does not understand nearly as much and I'm surprised.
The younger guy on the right is speaking in a way that sounds much more similar to Spanish specifically than the older men, I wonder if that's because it's bleeding into the local language
The younger guy on the left is speaking in a way that sounds much more similar to Spanish specifically than the older men, I wonder if that's because it's bleeding into the local language
I'm portuguese so I understand everything hahahah jajjajajaja
"Though it lacks official support by the Portuguese government" - Mirandês is officially recognized and protected by the Portuguese government and it's actually it's second official language.
Not an official language (thats only Portuguese), but recognized (regional language) indeed! :)
Ivona It's official in Portugal, it's the secound official language since 1999. Isn't just Portuguese the official language. The Sign Language it's official since 1997.
Sophia *official* language is only Portuguese - it's the language in which you sign your official papers in and so on..
*Recognized* language is something else and that is indeed Mirandese, sign language and soooo many more dialects- google "Lanugagues of Portugal".
I'm portuguese so I think I know about my country, it's the secound official language since 1999, recently they gave a news report about it. EUA doesn't official language and it's all or almost in English right?
pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%ADngua_mirandesa A língua mirandesa, tal como já foi referida anteriormente, é falada por, sensivelmente, 7 000 a 10 000 pessoas no extremo nordeste de Portugal, sendo desde 1999 a segunda língua oficial do país.
Sou da cidade do Rio de Janeiro e entendi mais do que 90%. Gostei muito da gravação.
This is apparently part of the Astur-Leonese family of language
Mirandese & Fala languages are the closest brothers to Leonese & Asturian
@@shaide5483 but Fala is part of the Galician-Portuguese branch. Extremadurian (Palra), on the other hand, is also part of the Asturo-Leonese family.
I thought Fala was a part of the same branch. But at least I got Mirandese right
@@shaide5483 Fala is portuguese beirão with influencia from estremeñu (asturleonese from Extremadura). Mirandese is leonese with influence from português trasmontano
@@oigolueb Fala is older than Português,how could they came from Portguese if they're way older?
Fascinating to hear about this language. Makes me definitely put Galicia on my travel list. I’m Brazilian and could understand 90% if not more of it. I also speak Spanish and it’s cool as it sounds like a Spanish speaker speaking Portuguese. But if you look at the grammar, it’s a unique way. Very cool! Thank you for the video!
Mirandês is a language from Portugal, not Galicia
Ânfora thank you! I found that out recently. It’s in the NE region of Portugal, while the galego is spoken in NW of Spain. Both very fascinating languages with roots dated back to reconquista days. The history of this region is very rich and very important for today’s Iberians make up.
@@maxoliver2665 northeast Portugal and nw Spain basically same people
Como eu amo! Língua mais bela que já ouvi!
Eu tbm e olha o que vi :th-cam.com/video/q8ArpaUKq1E/w-d-xo.html
uma trilha sonora com essa língua antes de me recomenda esse
Ela é mais próxima do nosso português brasileiro do que à de Portugal
@@spoilercortespodcastjurou, no Brasil onde você vive as pessoas comem bacalhau ao invés de estrogonofe, botam sapatos e calça social para ir à padaria e conjugam na segunda pessoa para dirigem-se umas às outras!
This is basically Portuguese with small differences, im Portuguese myself and my father who is from the north of Portugal, you can hear a lot of this style of communication... the way the northern Portuguese people speak is almost similar to Spanish in how they roll their “r”‘s qnd use their “s”’s
O mirandês tem características sintáticas que diferem-no de quaisquer outros dialetos do português. O mirandês, por exemplo, manteve as consoantes intervocálicas "n" e "l" ("luna" em vez de "lua", "arena" em vez de "areia", "tener" em vez de "ter"...), para além de palatizar duplas consoantes latinas ("anho" em vez de "ano", "pequenho" em vez de "pequeno", "galho" em vez de "galo"...).
Na sintaxe as diferenças são bem mais notáveis.
Hi, You're very cute ; )
@@metalnordeste8998 Hi, You're very intrusive ; )
I am Asturias and I undersand perfectly.
Sabes hablar idioma asturiano? Lo digo porque esto es supuestamente un dialecto del asturiano. Sin embargo, he visto videos de gente de Asturias hablando en asturiano, y me parece muy distinto a esto. Quizás es porque vosotros lo habláis con acento más castellanizado y ellos los mirandeses con acento más portugués, pero luego escrito, sin tener en cuenta la fonética, a lo mejor son casi idénticos.
@@mikelmontoya2965 Exautu
@@mikelmontoya2965 Sim, e por isso é que é preciso ter cuidado em comentar sobre línguas quando não as conhecemos para não cometer erros.
E depois há o factor de fluência - há pessoas nestes vídeos que falam a lingua melhor que outras (o senhor da esquerda, por exemplo, não fala mirandês tão bem como os outros dois).
@@mikelmontoya2965 Escrito ye mui paecío, sicasí na mio opinión son dos llingües diferentes (anque dambes de la famili asturllionesa)
Me sorprende que casi no hayan comentarios en español! Este lenguage se parece mucho al español (castellano), jamás he estudiado portugués pero entendí el 95% de los que hablaban estas personas, esa es la magia de las lenguas romances! Muy interesante :D saludos desde sur America!
América nuestra Nación
este lenguage es "astur-leones" o "asturiano"
Sounds beautiful. I speak Spanish and always love learning about the regional languages of Spain...all are beautiful ❤ love how the Latin countries ..Spain...Portugal....Italy...Sardínia...Sicília... Corsica and French of many regional languages.
I speak spanish as my native tongue and I was able to understand most of the conversation, I found it to be very interesting in terms of influence and relationship amongst romance languages and their dialects...................
This one and the one with the old couple are, by far, the best wikitongues videos!
Sensacional. Sou filho de portugueses, da Beira Alta, Viseu. É muito bonito ouvir os portugueses falarem. Esse dialeto eu nem conhecia.
Sou do Brasil e entendo 95 % . Algumas palavras são desconhecidas no português do Brasil. Parece uma mistura de espanhol e português. Mas com mais português que espanhol
It is "asturleonese",
@@josealbert4596It is not “asturo-leonese”, it is Mirandese: completely different.
@@aliceferreiiira97 Look at wikipedia : "Lingua mirandesa" (portoguese) or "Mirandese Language" ( English) or "Mirandés (asturleonés de Tierra de Miranda)" (Spanish) ( in English: "Mirandese is an Asturleonese language or variety that is sparsely spoken in a small area of northeastern Portugal in eastern Tierra de Miranda (made up of the municipalities of Miranda de Douro, Mogadouro and Bumioso, being extinct in Mogadouro and present in Bumioso only in some eastern villages, like Angueira). "
@@josealbert4596 I do not need to look at Wikipedia since I am literally Mirandese, born and raised in Miranda.
The claim that Mirandese is an Asturo-Leonese language is incorrect. While Mirandese shares historical roots with the broader Astur-Leonese group, it developed independently, influenced by the Galician-Portuguese language, not directly by Asturian or Leonese dialects. It evolved in isolation in northeastern Portugal, especially in Miranda do Douro, and is distinct from the Astur-Leonese varieties spoken in Spain.
Additionally, Mirandese is not extinct. Despite a decline in speakers, the language is still alive and used in the region, especially in Miranda do Douro and surrounding villages. It holds co-official status in the region since 1999, and efforts are in place to preserve and revitalize it. It continues to be taught in schools and used in public administration, with a growing number of second-language speakers.
Mirandese is a vital part of regional heritage and has origins closely linked to the Galician-Portuguese linguistic branch, not simply a derivative of Asturo-Leonese.
@@josealbert4596 The mention of "Asturo-Leonese" in the Wikipedia article about the Mirandese language is a misconception and it is wrong. While it is true that Mirandese and the Astur-Leonese dialects share some distant historical roots due to the general linguistic development of the Iberian Peninsula, Mirandese is fundamentally part of the Galician-Portuguese language group. It evolved primarily from the medieval Galician-Portuguese spoken in the northwest of the Iberian Peninsula, which later diverged into distinct languages such as Galician, Portuguese, and Mirandese.
I learned Spanish living in Paraguay for five years and I can follow at least 70% of this.
Sounds like my grandparents Portuguese
You stou mui feliç por scuitar eiqui aquestas histórias an mirandés. Ye ũa lhéngua tan beilha i tan special, p'alhá de fuorte, puis subrebibiu a l'anfluéncia de l pertués i de l spanhol por 800 anhos sien ser screbida, siendo passada por boç als çcendientes. Baia baia!
What language are you writing in? Is this written Mirandese or some other romance language? Btw, I'm Brazilian and I can understand everything you've said. I find the way those words are written way more interesting than Portuguese ones. hahahahah
你好, 雷道明! Yes, it's written Mirandese. My first contact with Mirandese language was about 12 years ago. I started to love this language when I first heard about it and I read a couple of texts. I also had this feeling, "wow man! it's more interesting than Portuguese" LOL!
Just for curiosity: in Mirandese, "You tube" means "I had".
I speak Spanish. This is the first time I've come across this language and I can read your post just fine. I have an easier time reading Mirandés than I do Portuguese. Maybe sometime I'll learn this language too.
Hola, ¡Stephen! También hablo español.
That's interesting that you can undertand written Mirandese better than Portuguese. In fact, I think it has more elements from Spanish because Mirandese comes from Asturian-Leonese language. ¡Te animo a que estudies portugués y mirandés!
Let me see if I can get this right:
"I am very happy to listen (eiqui=here?) to these stories in Mirandese.
It's a very beautiful and special language, (p'alha de fuorte='strongly
so'?) (puis subrebibiu=because?) of the influence of Portuguese and
Spanish for 800 years (sien ser screbida=it has been written), it has
been passed 'by mouth' (orally) to the successors."
If you could reply, that'd be great!
I am English and have a good command of Portuguese and Spanish, to me it sounds very like Portuguese, both the words and the accent, and is pretty much comprehensible, perhaps infinitives and definite articles are what is most clear as different to Portuguese. Very nice to hear it.
same thing for me : i'm french, i have good command of portuguese and spanish, and this mirandes sounds very portuguese to me
I'm Brazilian Portuguese and I can only understand well the writing Mirandese.
Mirandes is Leonese with Portuguese influence. This makes it easy to conceptualize the evolution of this beautiful language.
it's originally part of the astur-leonese family of languages but it's been influenced by portuguese en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asturleonese_language
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirandese_language
Muito interessante. Me interessei por esse vídeo por meus ascendentes serem desta região e por meu sobrenome ser Miranda.
Sim eu conheci esse idioma nesse link: th-cam.com/video/q8ArpaUKq1E/w-d-xo.html
E realmente é muito linda
In my opinion this language sounds more similar to rural souhtern Galician than standard Galicia, probably I'm wrong since I have never lived in Galicia but it is how I feel Mirandese. Mirandese is a beautiful language!!!
Que lindo! Isso parece um sotaque do Brasil mais precisamente de Santa Catarina. Mas ao mesmo tempo tem alguma coisa de Portugal. O rapaz de camisa listrada fala mais acentuado, mais difícil de compreender parecendo falar espanhol com português. Mas entendo 90% do que falam. Galego parece ser mais fácil de compreender.
Achas? Pensa melhor...
th-cam.com/video/p1d6bxLMdkA/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/qAr45Z7KFjw/w-d-xo.html
Eu achei o galego mais dificil de se entender por causa do forte sotaque espanhol. Já o Mirandês parece um brasileiro com sotaque de tão aparentado é a forma de falar no ritmo de fala.
Gramatical, sintáctica y morfológicamente es muy parecido al leonés, pero la pronunciación está más próximas al portugués, aunque muchas palabras sean las mismas si uno se fija.
El dominiu llingüísticu ástur fai referencia al conxuntu de los territorios onde anguaño se fala la llingua conocida polos glotónimos asturianu, lleonés o mirandés, y que constitúi una unidá llingüística propia.
You are writing in Asturian, are there any videos that show a good true Asturian accent?
Boa noite. O mirandês ainda é bastante próximo do português de Portugal.
Verdade!
I'm from the azores. Island of terceira. This is exactly what we sound like lol
heheheheheh
My grandparents spoke just like this. I wish I could speak it too.
has the language soundtrack : th-cam.com/video/q8ArpaUKq1E/w-d-xo.html
Que lindo! É como.mergulhar no passado em direção ao Latin antigo.
🇧🇷
I'm from Northern Portugal and I understood every word these gentlemen spoke, doesn't sound much different from Northern Portuguese.
Gente de vidas simples mas cheios de conteudo, de história, de valor. A quem tiver oportunidade, digo que se sente a conversar com estas velhas gentes, e ouça as histórias que tem para contar. Que não se perca o que eles viveram. Documentem.
Beautiful ... so cool.
As a Cymro and a siradwr Cymraeg I am so supportive and have so much love for these, so called "minority languages" ❤anviando amor do Gales🏴
Mui grande essa gente mirandesa!
Gosto do vídeo. Isto é realmente mostra que Portugal mais a Espanha (España) sao irmaos. Sinto o meu portugués ruin. Obrigado por o trabalho realizado. SaudaÇoes
Wow what a mix of dialects. Very interesting
Mirandese is very unique because it has a very unusual six way consonant distinction.
It distinguishes as different phonemes.
-/ʃ/ (spelled ⟨x⟩ in Mirandese, but it's the same sound as English ⟨sh⟩) [sample word in Mirandese ⟨caixa⟩ (box) pronounced /'kajʃa/]
-/ʒ/ (spelled ⟨g⟩ or ⟨j⟩ in Mirandese, but it's like the ⟨s⟩ in English ⟨vision⟩) [sample word in Mirandese ⟨biajar⟩ (to travel) pronounced /bja'ʒar/]
-/s̻/ (spelled ⟨c⟩ or ⟨ç⟩ in Mirandese, which is the standard English ⟨s⟩ sound) [sample word in Mirandese ⟨caça⟩ (hunt) pronounced /'kas̻a/]
-/z̻/ (spelled ⟨z⟩ in Mirandese, it's the standard English ⟨z⟩ sound) [sample word in Mirandese ⟨fazer⟩ (to do) pronounced /fa'z̻er/]
-/s̺/ (spelled ⟨s⟩ at the beginning of words and ⟨-ss-⟩ between vowels in Mirandese, it's the way Sean Connery or Jodie Foster say the English ⟨s⟩ sound, or the way Spaniards make the ⟨s⟩ sound) [sample word in Mirandese ⟨passar⟩ (to pass) pronounced /pa's̺ar/]
-/z̺/ (spelled ⟨-s-⟩ between vowels in Mirandese, it's like Sean Connery or Jodie Foster pronouncing the letter ⟨z⟩, or an ⟨s⟩ from a Spaniard but voiced) [sample word in Mirandese ⟨casa⟩ (house) pronounced /'kaz̺a/].
Basque also distinguishes /ʃ/ from /s̻/ from /s̺/ but it does not make the voicing distinction Mirandes makes, so Mirandese is really special, really unique.
Portuguese has the /ʃ/-/ʒ/-/s/-/z/ distinction, but the distinction between /s̻/ and /s̺/, and between /z̻/ and /z̺/ has been lost.
Yes, this consonant disctinction used to also be present in Galician-Portuguese, Old Leonese and Old Spanish. Extremaduran also has it in some form.
iberian peninsula is a place with a lot of culture, happy to share it with our spanish brothers ❤
Muito interessante! Sou brasileira, mas entendi quase tudo. O mirandês soa como uma mistura de português com espanhol, o que facilita a compreensão pra quem fala espanhol também. Na verdade, alguns sotaques de Portugal pra mim são muito mais difíceis de entender, como dos Açores, que é difícil até para os próprios portugas! hahah
Nada a ver. É uma mistura de português com leonês.
@@jmlmo35 como nada a ver, para nós que falamos Português, o idioma Leonês lembra Espanhol, então o comentário dela faz sentido.
@@pldrosa Não é espanhol, mas sim castelhano. Uma coisa é o castelhano (que normalmente as pessoas chamam "espanhol", outra coisa é o leonês. São línguas diferentes.
Filogeneticamente, o asturo-leonês faz parte do grupo iberorromance ocidental e surge da peculiar evolução que sofreu o latim no Reino das Astúrias (posteriormente Reino de Leão). O grupo asturo-leonês divide-se em três blocos (ocidental, central e oriental) que traçam de forma vertical uma divisão norte-sul, desde as Astúrias até à Terra de Miranda, e compondo assim o domínio linguístico asturo-leonês. Pode parecer "castelhano", nas não é...
Não por que vi essa trilha de música com esse idioma e tem uns tipo de letra que nem eu mesmo pronunciará direito olha:th-cam.com/video/q8ArpaUKq1E/w-d-xo.html
Mas quem cantou realmente bato palmas por que o idioma não é fácil não 😅 eu ficaria o ano todo tentando pegá e cantaria errado
Parece um brasileiro com sotaque de tão aparentado que é da nossa língua! Maravilhoso!
Em Miranda do Douro também há algo muito interessante: o gado denominado “raça mirandesa”, um gado extremamente semelhante aos touros selvagens ou auroques
I love how this sounds, besides from some specific vocabulary it's perfectly understandable and i find similar to how it's spoke on certain islands of the Azores (except for Sao Miguel which has it's own accent).
Que lindo!
Interesting. It sounds kinda like what I'd immagine an older form of Portuguese would have sounded like.
O sotaque minhoto por si só é uma boa representação. Se comparares o seu sotaque co sotaque galego das aldeias, repararás que são incrivelmente semelhantes (são iguais até)
@@afonsoferreira2652,apesar de se debater, muitos concordam que são a mesma língua.
It sounds closer to Brazilian Portuguese than European Portuguese
@@josuegabriel8066 that's impossible..
André parece o sotaque de pessoas idosas do interior do Brasil.
That guy on the right looked like a Yorkshire farmer!
Legacy of the old Celtiberians
The one in the middle could be some French legacy or something.
My grandfather looked eastern European, hazelblue eyes and dark blond ish hair
@@assassin3003 French legacy? This is Portugal not Eastern Spain, but i get what you mean, they do look (and are) Celtic and Germanic.
@@thebrocialist8300 It's "homem" and he is just tanned.
Asturian, Galician, and this are very similar - often spoken on the NW side of the Iberian peninsula.
Wow. My family is from Tras dos montes. They’re so close to these people.
Great and precious video! But just one correction. I am pretty sure that one of them is called AntÓnio, not AntÔnio. The “ô” is used in Brazil.
You sou de paradela, l home más alto ye Miu tiu. 😊
❤ espero que se façam todos os esforços para proteger está língua!
I’m Brazilian and I can understand everything. This reminds me of how the old Italian immigrants in Brazil spoke Portuguese.
why is this not considered a dialect of Portuguese?
because it is "asturleones", a language directly derived from "vulgar latin" spoken in "Asturias", the only region of the iberian peninsula that was not conquered by the moors (it was invaded by the moors about 712 but the christians had a battle against the moors about 720 and defeated the moors. From Asturias the Christians began to reconquer territory to the south ).
The one on the left reminds me of Rener Gracie
Como brasileiro, digo que algumas palavras passam desapercebidas, mas consigo entender a maior parte do que é falado.
Eles são tão parecidos com a gente na fala que parecem um brasileiro com sotaque! Incrível!
Sim. Entendi uns 99,9%. Achei interessante o R vibrante.
Me suena muchísimo a catalán por la neutralización de las vocales y el cierre vocalico de la o final
no tiene nada q ver con catalan. ni suena a catalan.
has the language soundtrack : th-cam.com/video/q8ArpaUKq1E/w-d-xo.html
7:02 "Um home pa metê-le a faca bê-se mal!!" hahahah
Soy de Sevilla, España y toda mi familia materna es de Caçarelhos, entre Miranda do Douro y Vimioso.
Escucho a éstas personas y recuerdo a mi abuelo hablando.
A question for Astur-Leonese speakers here : Do you consider it a dialect of the language...or a separate one?
I consider that they and me (from Xixón) speak the same language (which name is up to you haha) but different dialects (asturian and mirandés). They seem to me portugueses speaking in occidental asturian (Tineo, Salas if you want to search it in Google Maps). If I were from Tineo, I do not know if I would consider their language as the same dialect. The greatest difference is the pronunciation, which is the most influenced by Spanish and Portuguese.
I'm from Asturian and I consider them two different languages. I've heard and read a lot mirandese since I have a mirandese friend and I try to speak to him in Asturian and he in mirandese and we have a lot of trouble understanding each other. However, this is a lot more similar to Western Asturian, and even more similar to the leonese dialects spoken in Zamora, probably speakers of those dialects understand them better.
Muito legal!!!
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Esto suena como una mezcla entre el español paisa, el portugués y los dialectos noritalianos....
It sounds like gailician with a slight Portuguese accent
Galician don't have "pequeño", "año", "bien", "you", etc.
Wow, it's very similar to portuguese. I'm Brazilian and I can understand everything they say.
caralho vc é um deus mano parabens
@@leobrz eu sou tbm, eu entendi tudo
Honestly it is portuguese tbh
Eu tbm pude entender , não tudo , mas entendi muito . Pra falar a verdade as vezes não entendo nem o português quando fala . Falo inglês tbm e quando escuto o inglês britânico tbm tenho um pouco de dificuldade para entender, vai por osmose.
@@Marsandri kkkkkk
Eu sou brasileiro e domino o português, falo galego, espanhol, entre outras línguas, entendo perfeitamente e me parece muito o galego ou o português do Norte, nem mesmo diria que é outra língua, mas diria logo que é português, é tudo galego-português.
I speak Portuguese and I understand them.
This is very similar to Portuguese and somewhat similar to Spanish. I heard they say "ñ" And I can understand they talk about cows
En que país están España o Portugal
Portugal
I am Brazilian and was able to understand about 85%, but some nouns about farm equipment(?) I didn’t understand
it sounds really like Portuguese
É muito parecido com portugues
Y con el español también! demasiado!
I think the dude on the left ate a fly at 2:05
He tried to anyway lol wtf.
lol... like a frog.
He didn't it went on his forehead and then flew off
He tried. But don't worry. The fly escaped. You can seet it later on his forehead
Como brasileiro, entendi tudo perfeitamente.
Realmente lembra-me a fala dalguns idosos daqui do Brasil. Conservou-se bastante a pronúncia no norte português.
Se não soubesse que é astur-leonés, iria achar que é uma variante de português europeu com características bem regionais, parecido com os dialetos italianos
its António, not Antônio
Alline Cardoso Dos Anjos só se for no Brasil.... Em Portugal o correcto é AntÓnio. Ninguém se chama “Antônio” em terras lusas.
@Aline Cardoso português o caralho! Em Portugal, onde se fala português, diz-se António
@@avantelvsitania3359 Brasil com S, por favor...
edmoneul souza de facto
@@snoowwe Lava essa tua boca imunda. Ao contrário de mim, ela não sabia, você explicou. Bastava isso.
Mirandês tem o sotaque mais próximo do Português brasileiro com algumas peculiaridades de palavras diferentes enquanto que Portugal tem uma gramática mais próxima do brasileiro com 99% de similaridade porém sotaque distante que dificulta um pouco mais a compreensão.
Asturiano falado na Espanha.
Incrível que dá pra entender todo o contexto, toda a história, e não entendo metade das palavras (sou do Alentejo btw)
I can understand this Portuguese better than Brazilian Portuguese.
*Brazilian Language.
@@natanluisp Português* cara
@@natanluisp The Brazilian language was an extinct indigenous language that in the 18th century was replaced by Portuguese.
Gostei!
António, not Antônio.
Antônio e' a maneira que se escreve no Brasil
@@gca7046 sim
@@gca7046 Não só se escreve como se pronuncia. E soa diferente do que pronunciar AntÓnio, onde o O é aberto e não fechado como vocês dizem.
que incrivel é a mesma cadencia do portugues falado no brasil....
Nada haver, o português br é único, e quase um crioulo com as línguas indígenas.
Entendi 50% das palavras (algumas em português outras em espanhol) mas não foi suficiente para entender do que eles falavam. Parece que tem alguma coisa haver com a lida nas aldeias como seus costumes antigos
@@ocorvo1724não mesmo!
Até pq depende do sotaque!
Tem o Gaúcho,porto alegrense,colono,caipira,paulistano,mineiro,baiano,nordestino(e suas variantes), carioca, nortista e mais alguns.
Is it understandable for Portuguese speakers?
I thought it is very similar and easy to understand for all those people that speak Portuguese, Spanish, and maybe Italian. I speak Spanish and Italian, and I understood so good
+Adriana Trujillo-Ortega Same here.
Usually who speak Mirandese also speak Portuguese and in some cases also Spanish. To be honest except in the zones where the language it's spoken we don't listen it to much.
I think it change person to person. Usually a portuguese understand a spaniard but the same doesnt happen becuase of the difference of sounds.
It is more difficult to learn to write it correctly than it is to Understand it. If you know how to differentiate the accents you can Understand Galician, Portuguese, Spanish, Mirandese, Italian Etc.
As a Spanish speaker I can understand this very well, much more so than Portuguese which I can also understand.
Se nota claramente que no es portugués aunque en la sonoridad tenga la influencia de este por la proximidad, el portugués es más ininteligible y en este caso el mirandés tiene más préstamos del castellano al ser una ramificación más del astur o lo que se hablaba en el antiguo reino de León.
Wait, so how different is Mirandese from Portuguese to be considered a separate language and not a mere dialect or a transitional dialect?
Very good question! Mirandese is not a dialect of Portuguese because it did not develop from Portuguese. Portuguese, Spanish, Mirandese and the other Astur-Leonese languages-Asturian, Leonese, Extremaduran, and so on-each developed independently and simultaneously from Latin. So, at best, you could make the case that Mirandese and Portuguese are two dialects of the same Latin language, but calling it a Portuguese dialect or "mere transitional dialect" has political, not scientific, connotations. In other words, even though Spanish and Portuguese are more socially and politically prestigious, they are not older languages than Mirandese and other regional varieties, nor are they more "complete" languages. By extension, they aren't scientific reference points for evaluating smaller Iberian languages. In linguistics, mutual intelligibility is not the defining metric for classifying one language from another (see Norwegian and Swedish, Hindi and Urdu, Galician and Portuguese, and more). In fact, classifying one language from another is nowhere near as objective as say, classifying one species from another, because language is the expression of culture-it embodies human subjectivity. Linguists consider a set of factors when engaging in linguistic classification. They look at the vocabulary of different languages, as well as their syntax (grammar), historical evolution (how did these languages evolve?), and cultural identity. This often leads-and has always led-to languages with high degrees of mutual intelligibility being classified as separate languages. Academic recognition of your community's language/dialect makes it possible to secure a three-letter ISO code, which makes it possible to expand browser recognition, machine translation and predictive text (autocorrect) to your language/dialect; it can also provide the institutional legitimacy to secure political recognition so your language/dialect can be taught in schools. In other words, what's important here is not whether Mirandese and Portuguese are two distinct varieties of the same language; what's important is that both Mirandese and Portuguese can continue to exist.
@@Wikitongues That was beautiful 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Pude entender tudo. Sou brasileiro! 👍
Ese mirandes es astur leones eb españa
Pretty much like European Portuguese. Very cool.
Actually not. Mirandese has some phonemes that Standard European Portuguese don't have.
I can understand most of what the guy on the right is saying.
I recognize the words as being similar to Spanish and Portuguese, but the language sounds like Albanian to my ears.
O falar dessa gente e parecido com o falar dos acorianos mais antigos
E moi parecido a o galego, moito mais que o asturiano e o portugues...
Isso é porque nunca ouviste um português do Norte, estupor!
It's a lot mot comprehensible than the rest of Portugal and the Azores
Orlando Rivas are you Spanish?