BF didn't forget his mom's birthday. He deliberately didn't get anything. He didn't forget her Christmas present either. He just doesn't doesn't care to be bothered.
Yea if you're not gonna get anything, then just say you aren't getting anything. Don't lie and say you actually had a gift when you didn't. I never give gifts nowadays just because I don't know what to get people and everyone is just fine with it, theyre family, I don't go around pretending that I gave them something just to say I gave them something
Yup, and mom is used to it. That's why she was so emotional about getting the vase, and so disappointed when it turned out he got her nothing again. She wouldn't have been disappointed if he hadn't gotten her hopes up.
Story 3: It never fails to amuse me how people like that now-ex boyfriend think of themselves as a catch. "Save me the trouble of putting actual thought, let alone care, into my mother's gifts or yours and my relationship is OVER!" 😂 Despite what the common phrase states, good times are actually the best of threats.
I'm sad for the ex-boyfriend's mom. OP said she's a sweet person. She just had a terrible son. I think it would be kind gesture if OP did make her a similar cat vase but obviously OP has no obligation to do that.
Story 3: He STOLE the urn. Period. And now he's butthurt. He IS a bad son - a thief, a liar, and a victim blamer. Of course his mom was hurt - HE HURT HER. Glad he's an ex. (Lol "Dobby is free.")
And she was probably more hurt by the fact she thought her son got her something thoughtful and lovely for once. And found out he stole it and lied. I hope now they’re broken up, OP makes her another one anyway. They can still be friendly. F that dumba$$. She seemed sweet and OP was a better child to her than her own child was.
My mother is a Roman Catholic and my father is an atheist. Their fundamentally different beliefs and opinions did not affect me in a bad way whatsoever, because both are decent people who did their best to raise me right. Their different upbringings actually helped me develop the ability to see things from different points of view and have an open mind about most things in life.
@@endernightblade1958yeah. There's an good way to figure out if a church/religion is good or bad. Does it promote/not suppress critical thinking? If yes, it's likely good. Does it promote blind obedience/suppress critical thinking? If yes, it's definitely bad.
@@autisticwitch7581 You just described pretty much the majority of religions in your second categorization. Most religions I've seen do suppress critical thinking in one form or another. Maybe there are religions that don't suppress critical thinking, but I've yet to hear about one. Then again, I'm also incredibly cynical about religion by this point, and find myself more and more agreeing with atheism every day, so eh
@@autisticwitch7581Well, both my parents were adamant that my religion doesn't determine who I am, it is my deeds that count, and I am ultimately responsible for my deeds. You cannot use religion as an excuse to be a monster.
yeah, but she sound like the type of person who would told you that you don't know what you're talking about because you mind is so oh-damage you can't possibly know what is good for you.. really those persons just want to feel justified for their actions , want to feel like they always on the right, they want so desperately believe that they are good people that they twist reality and refuse to see their bad actions resulting in them never changing and growing as persons and ended up as overgrown toddlers with no capacity for self-reflection. It would surprise (and disappoint) you the amount of narcissist that hide behind the religious curtain
Anyone who speaks about a baby like it's some hand me down toy, especially when they have set criteria like "must fit my religious views and can't have issues" has no business trying to raise a baby.
@@vidal9747 As I said to the other guy, the entire premise of this story is they want ops baby due to their different religious views. You people really need to listen to the stories.
Years ago, my grandma made the mistake of saying how much she loved a gift. The gift was pig related for some reason. For the rest of her life, she received pig related gifts regularly. She told us years later that she didn't really like pigs, but the gifts were sweet, so she just went with it. She had pig paintings, statues, and even a small crystal pig I got her. Her house was full of pigs. 😂
This is a trap I fall into all the time. 😂 I get so many gifts for things I was only somewhat into a few years prior and just pretend I love it and hope people eventually stop.
I did this to my dad with fruit cake. Every year, after we learned he loved fruit cake, he'd get a fruit cake for Christmas. I forgot how long ago it was but he just told us one Christmas that he was kinda tired of fruit cake now.
My sister actually does like pigs. But she told us her husband says no more pigs. 😂 There is only so much pig paraphernalia that can fit in an apartment. So he wasn't being unreasonable.
Story 3: He could've just said that he forgot to get a present, but nope, he decided to use OP's gift to her mom for his mom, get mad when OP corrected, and then attempt to steal one of OP's other artwork. I honestly feel bad for the mom, her son absolutely sucks and she just learned about it
A white lie I've told when I forgot to get someone a gift was that I ordered one online, and it just hasn't come in, yet. In reality, I placed the order right before, or right after... But they still get a gift later, and don't feel too forgotten! 😅
People who are so casual about asking someone else to give up a child ("you can just have another one", etc) only prove that they understand nothing about parenthood and should never be put in charge of children.
Agreed, also I wouldn't be surprised to see that they'd blame the kid 'not really being hers' for any behavioral problems down the road. Kid is diagnosed with a disability later in life? "OH well now you can have the kid back, she's born wrong bc she's YOURS" The kid turns out gay? Blame OP and the husband's 'bad genes' or something. Also where they ever gonna plan to tell the kid? Or just lie and tell the kid she can never get a DNA test. Or what if the kid turns out to be a spitting image of ops husband? Op's family seem to see a child as a toy to have and idealized this future kid that probably will never turn out they way they want.
When I was a child, a neighbor kid down the street was completely blind from birth. He was a couple of years older than me, so we never hung out. But his driveway had a fairly long slope of an entry way. I'll never forget the three weeks he tried, on his own, to learn how to ride a single (not double) bicycle. He had cuts, bruises and tenacity. It wasn't too long afterword that his parents bought a double bicycle and made one of his siblings ride in front and control the wheel.
Story 1: The aunt literally told OP she can just have another baby later on like it's THAT easy to give birth. Giving birth is NOT easy, you have to endure pain, the inconveniences, sleepless nights and many more to have your child. These two are absolutely delusional if they thought random people are just gonna give them a baby just because they demand for it. Stand your ground, do not give in to their BS.
And I know the church won’t get involved and likely the cops won’t as well but I wonder if OP can get lawyers involved? There is correspondence that not only is OP being coerced into giving up her baby but other moms have been harassed by OPs cousin.
Yeah and even if she does this, how do we know op will be able to have another? Also how they are acting is ironically against what the aunt's beliefs should be.
Story2 I believe Kay was actually harrassing Op and not trying to help at all, for whatever reason. Could be jealousy or just boredom but either way, she needed to know that her behaviour was unacceptable and Op did just just that by getting the cops involved in Kay's direction. *I'm betting Kay is calling using different names. *lol yep
It's possible that Kay wanted to be seen as the "Savior" of OP. When OP said the bruises came from her disability, good old Kay knew in her heart that something must be done, and SHE had to act!!! Kay to the rescue!
And even worse, say Kay was right and OP was being abused. How does repeatedly calling the cops going to help? She had no evidence except for bruises OP already explained away, never talked to OP like THE TEACHER SUGGESTED, and somehow, sending cops to OP's door is going to magically save OP from abuse?! She's in lalaland if she thinks it's that easy. If OP was being abused, OP could easily lie about the bruises and the cops wouldn't be able to do anything, because he refused to tell the truth! And if OP was being abused, wouldn't that just mean the abuser would get angrier at OP, since they'll automatically think OP called 911 or told someone about the abuse, AND ABUSE THEM HARDER?! But of course, she didn't think about that. And FYI, I'm pretty clumsy myself, and I have vision in both eyes. Not "I'm always covered in bruises" clumsy, but enough that I occasionally find bruises and little micro-cuts from bumping into furniture, door handles, and even wide-open doorways.
I just think she was using OP to make herself look good. It's probably fairly obvious that OP is indeed blind on one eye so I find it hard to believe she genuinely thought she was helping him.
@@bwpersona6718 I think Kays "logic" is that if she keep calling, the cops would sooner or later think OP is being forced to lie and to actually arrest their "abusers." Because nobody would call that much unless it wasn't that serious. My guess she has some sort of hero complex with her needing to "save" OP, especially since OP is disabled.
@@bwpersona6718 Oh same lol When I was a kid, my grandmother would get me a Klutz of the Year award every year. As long as I’ve been walking and talking, she’ll always hear a thud from another room followed by a little voice calling out, “I’m okay!” I’m 27 now and it still hasn’t stopped lmao I have lost a lot of skin bit by bit to door handles. Many unidentified bruises over the years. The number of times I walk up to my fiancé and tell him all the stuff I’ve bumped into and he just says “oh honey…” haha yeah I’m a walking disaster 😂
Story 2-Kay is going to get everything she deserves for not letting things be after the first call. She KNEW OP was saying she had a disability that causes the bruises, but she not only called the cops once (once might be legitimate concern that OP is lying) but multiple times, even after being told to stop and being moved classes for harassment. What was her goal though? What was she trying to achieve? She was told so many times that OP wasn't being abused and had a disability that caused the bruises, and that if she didn't stop, she'd get in trouble eventually. But she kept going until the police filed charges against Kay for harassment and misuse of police. Also, if OP WAS being abused in this case, Kay wouldn't have been helping. A lot of abusers get worse as the police fail to help, both sue to the power of not being arrested and out of revenge against the abused for "reporting them" even if it wasn't the abused party. And the others had a point. No abuse victim is going to willingly show the marks of abuse. It's seen as shameful and many victims believe they are at fault for being abused. I just don't understand what the end goal was here...
Kay is going to jeopardize her own nursing career before she even takes the boards. If she has a criminal record she's going to find it difficult to get hired.
@@spydersoup8447 I think she's abelist in a more patronizing and 'hero complex' way than a malicious intent. It seems like she wants to be ops savior, by 'helping' op escape from abuse. And instead of being able to admit she's wrong, she continued doubling down bc admitting she was wrong, would mean admitting to herself and friends the fact that she's been harassing and accusing a disabled student of lying about abuse, and surely she's just 'such a good person, who wants to HELP and SAVE people! Oh no she couldn't POSSIBLY be *wrong*' and it's come back to bite her. Hopefully she leaves op alone.
@@vespernight4236 Though one thing I don't get, in the class, OP said that the bruises are from him being clumsy because of his blind eye, so why would she mistake that bit as if OP is hiding the fact that he's being abused?
All she’s thinking about is wanting a baby in her married, religious household. She doesn’t care that she’s causing pain and turmoil in attempt to get what she wants. She only cares about having a baby.
Story 1: It's HER child coming out of HER body, if she wants to keep the child she can. Children should only be taken away from their birth moms if they're being abused or the birth mom gives the child away willingly. No one is entitled to someone else's kids just because they want them, even if they're family. Cousin could maybe adopt or find a surrogate who's willing to give her a child, but honestly it doesn't seem like she's fit to be a mother anyway. Story 2: Kay got what she deserved, she was harassing him and wasting police resources. Story 3: OP is definitely not the jerk in this situation, she made the art for her own mom and it was on her boyfriend to give a gift to his mom, not her. BF knew what he was doing, stealing it and trying to pass it off as his gift for his mom. He's definitely not a good son or a good BF, and I'd say good riddance to that relationship. Glad OP is no longer dating him.
And the tried to steal something of OPs right in front of her after breaking up with her and demanding she make things right? No baby cakes. Time has long since come for you to be an adult and adult.
Also, NEVER go to the Bishop for advice in marriage and relationships. Honestly, the Church is a bunch of hypocrites in some capacity depending on where you are. My sister was suffering in her marriage to her Ex and the Bishop told her to stay with her Ex and try to work it out, that they needed to work it out for the children. Y'all, wtf? Ex refused to work on himself, believing nothing was wrong. My sister left for her own sake and it was like she had the plague after. No one contacted her, people she thought were friends dropped her, and no one contacted her to see if she was okay. No, they all flocked to her Ex, lamenting how my sister had 'abandoned her kids and duty as a wife and mother'. They would rather she stay in a relationship that was detrimental to her health than have her leave so she could actually be a better mom. She's much happier now with her new boyfriend who treats her kindly and doesn't get mad at her over every little thing.
SOOOO glad your sister is out of there! And yup, the situation sounds very mormon to me. A bunch of hypocrites the lot of them. But what would I know, I was a lazy learner lol!
Ugh.... It's stories like this that break my heart. Full disclosure, I am LDS. But stories like this break my heart. Abuse should NEVER be tolerated in our community and it makes me sick that people would suggest staying with an abuser. I agree that bishops are NOT qualified to help in cases of abuse and can often give horrible advice. If my kids or myself have issues of any sort I will be taking us to THERAPY not a bishop. I am angered sooo much hearing stories about judgemental horrific members who treat others like dirt. They are the exact opposite of how we are supposed to act. I hope your sister is thriving and happy in her new life and I am sooo relieved she got away from her abuser. I want to be horrified at her treatment, but unfortunately it's all too common in LDS communities. We need to do better.
My great-aunt felt overwhelmed with how many kids she had and wanted to stop having more and went to the church to talk about it. The man, who was either the pastor or bishop or something along those lines told her 'no, it was her duty' 🙄and she and her husband kept having more children. I think she had 6 or 7 total? If I recall correctly, she only wanted 1-2 or maybe 3 at most and was at about 4 when she asked. She was a kind and sweet woman who deserved happiness and did the best she could. I still feel so bad for her these many years after her passing.
Story 2: why didn't that Kay just talk with op, doing that would have been enough if she truly wanted to help op. But no, she went full Karen and called " the manager "
Baby story - the op should have gotten legal counsel from the start. I get the sense she somehow thought the bishop would be able to force the aunt and cousin to stop, but that’s not in the range of what clergy can do. He’s a spiritual advisor not a court of law.
OPs aunt and sister are deeply entrenched in a strict religion. a spiritual leader CAN tell someone their behavior is not appropriate within their religion, and that does stop poor behavior in some people. unfortunately, mormonism prioritizes mormons and heavily penalizes those who leave. the OPs mistake was not assuming the bishop could resolve things without starting a permanent legal record: it was assuming her side could ever be taken as a non-member.
I agree, a bishop is a spiritual leader and that's it. One interesting thing to note with Bishops in the Mormon church is that it's not a full time permanent position. The bishop is literally just some guy from the congregation called to serve in the position. Every few years, a new bishop is called and the previous one is released. So not only are they not marriage counselors, but they're actually just regular people. And as a regular person, there's not much he can do.
Third story, it sounds like breaking up was a mercy for OP. Especially with how fast he got so aggressive over being busted like that. I do agree that chances are his mom caught on too and that might've been why OP was told about the vase
I really really really REALLY want to know the thought process of "Bruise Girl" cause that is just...baffling. I imagine it was some twisted badly thought out reasoning (maybe past abuse issues where a family member swore up and down they were just clumsy but were being abused?) but she had to have some reason for it...right?
I can't imagine that's the reason @@Clyde-S-Wilcox. Maybe the first time but once she started to actually get in trouble, doing it for the lulz doesn't make sense
Story 1: I understand that struggling with infertility is very hard, but it shouldn't make you harass random mothers for their baby. I think some therapy is in order, because I don't think any child would have a good home life with the cousin's current state
That second story. Man. The only things I can think of for why Kay was so adamant was either she was a victim of abuse as well, or she has a savior complex. There's a REASON she went off the wall with OP's accident-prone self. It still doesn't excuse it, but hopefully she got the help she clearly needed.
Easy bruising can be a sign of another medical condition or just genetic predisposition, like in OPs case or in my mother's case. Apparently my mother abuses herself according to Kay just by walking around since she's always got small bruises from hitting a doorknob, or having the dog step on her foot, or one time the dogs tail left a bruise on her leg the dog was wagging her tail so hard.
@@bigjalapeno7061 honestly? it's not. she has chronic pain but it's not related to the bruising. people the bruise easily like that, the bruises are often very superficial and don't hurt much.
2nd story: I am a huge clutz. I am covered in bruises from bumping into walls, doors, tables. I am far from being abused unless you consider being abused by objects 'suddenly' jumping out into my path. 😂
Story 1- I also had a terrible experience in the Mormon church. Bishop was of no help and they truly see women as second class citizens. The whole congregation was against me leaving my husband even though he was physically and verbally abusive to the point that he spent time in jail.
If the Mormon church insist on being in charge and controlling the lives of their congregation to the point they chase them down years after they try to leave, then they can act like the so-called community leaders they claim to be and support their community by helping families, protecting their congregants and being available for counseling with an actual open ear. Y'know, like churches do historically? Instead, it appears they just do their best to keep women as second class citizens and tout their supremacy over other sects while raking in the donation money.
@wingracer1614 Oh I don't know, call the police? Back her up? Have the congregation he has control over to help/support her while she tries to leave? Believe her? I don't know, be Christ-like? I get he's not a therapist, but being a good friend can, and often is, good enough for him to be to the members. I'm so sorry you had to go through that without the community that didn't really act like one Barbara. It is quite hypocritical when one of their own needs their help the most, they often either ignore it or throw "the blemish" out. If it wasn't obvious enough, I'm an exmo and have seen this bullshit play out with my own parents (though nowhere near as severe as your situation). I hope you're in a better place now./gen
I am also a “Mormon” or Latter-Day Saints as we like to call ourselves. We don’t claim OP’s aunt as one of us especially if what OP says is true. Whether they’re able to provide a better life for OP’s baby is a completely different matter compared to OP’s aunt constantly harassing her by trying to steal her baby in the name of religion! If I was in her aunt’s shoes, of course I would want OP’s baby to have a better life, but I would never force her to give her baby up to me ever! Also, that LDS Bishop is spineless if he refuses to chastise OP’s aunt for not allowing OP to do as she pleases for her own baby! It’s not OP’s aunt’s baby, it’s OP’s baby end of story!
That first story does remind me of the strongest display of faith I've ever personally seen... The youth minister and his wife at a church I used to go to believed God had promised them that they would have a family between the two of them; i.e. natural birth as opposed to adoption or surrogates. So they got pregnant once...and it was stillborn after a couple months. They prayed again and got the same response. So they tried again...and it was stillborn after a couple months. More discouraged, they prayed yet again and still had the same response. On the third time, they got past the "danger phase" of the first two pregnancies, and finally felt their prayer was granted. They got everything ready, went through all the normal parents with new baby preparation, and got almost to the end of the seventh month...and a stillborn. Now, being a Christian myself, at that point I would have concluded that I wasn't really hearing the voice of God and just my own imagination, and I would have considered this time to give up. Especially since at this point they were emotionally devastated and hopeless; ESPECIALLY the wife. Now they have two kids and I thought I remembered them hearing they had a third along the way.
Second had an update, kay continued to call, and possibly had other people call to report abuse as the cops mentioned multiple reports, cops stopped showing up at OP’s request and began noting names and numbers, Kay was charged with misuse of police resources and harassment and has been suspended because of the charges and when the charges go through she’ll be expelled. Kay’s mom went on a hunt trying to find OP to make them drop the charges, but the county/state is bringing charges, not OP. They made the school aware and are being escorted by security to class and everyone is on the lookout for Kay and family as they aren’t allowed anywhere near OP.
Cousin and her husband are not fairies who tricked OP out of her firstborn, and should not be treated as if she owns them as such. The kid is already cherished and loved, so much, go save some that hasn't been so lucky
I never showed my bruises from a classmate. They were already visible true, but I was too scared to name him. And no one questioned why my bruises went away after he left. But the point is, no one who is abused will draw attention to it in front of a group like that.
These videos are basically the only constant for me right now so I try to watch them when they drop. My town got flooded on Wednesday, and it destroyed the basement of my work. So on top of my job being closed for an estimated 3 weeks, but they cut power and water to the entire building, which includes my apartment. I’m staying with family right now, drugged up on allergy meds, trying to keep my sanity and not break down from all the stress. I’m hoping that something giid happens cuz after my week started with a ruined birthday, I am just exhausted and want to go home, but I can’t till they funally get the power and water on safely.
1st story: OP should inform the cops and other soon to be moms about her cousin and aunt. What if they steal someone else’s baby if they can’t get to OP
Story 1: Why couldn't it be a 'it takes a village' situation when parents are both overbooked at their jobs at the same time, or someone just vibes with the idea of having adventure time with the kid for a few days giving them a break as a side effect?
Because they're literally trying to force OP to hand over their child. People like that do not want and will not compromise. They'd likely refuse to return the child, try to manipulate it into believing the bio parents are bad people, ECT.
Story one.... Awnty is an entitled fool. So, she thinks OP can just pop out another baby like an effing biscuit!? 😮 OP needs a restraining order against rabid Awnty and cousin. 🤨
Anytime a post ends with something like, "I really love my boyfriend and want to work this out," I know the update will be a tale of how they broke up.
The aunt wants the baby to go to a very religious family and saying she wants to "put the child first" when she's literally not putting the child first at all. She's putting her religion and her own daughter before what's best for the baby and trying to intimidate the pregnant lady, causing stress to the baby, and trying to force the mom into abandoning her child.
That aunt is crazy. Also why are they talking to the bishop and not the cops? What is he supposed to do? And with the last one, it was the ex boyfriend's fault for taking the gift ment for someone else. He really is a terrible son and boyfriend.
Story 2: Kay didn't think there was any abuse, she just didn't like OP. It happens. I've seen it before. I once rented a home from a nice old lady. Nice old lady went into a nursing home, and her evil cousin took over her finances, tricked nice old lady into signing a document giving her unlimited power and just mooched off of her without nice old lady's knowledge. Anyway, evil cousin rented the house next to me to nice family with two kids. And called CPS on them multiple times for no reason. And told them that I did it, which they didn't believe. She just liked hurting people and used abuse reports to do it, ironically while being an elder abuser herself. . She went to jail for stealing huge amounts of money from nice old lady.
Chrimas present: It would not have been the best thing to give a present intended for somebody else to someone it wasn't intended to be given to. I hope op tells the mom that her son is a terrible son and a liar. I'm happy they broke up because she needs a better boyfriend who WON'T steal her hard work.
Morning everyone, talk about entitlement I do understand the infertility problems but you know can adopt right and I’m sorry for the cousin but what she’s doing isn’t the way to go
For the first story, while I also have religious differences from the aunt and cousin, I don't like seeing potential parents suffering. There might be a simple reason the cousin is constantly losing the baby, and I want to bring this up because it caused me a few miscarriages before successfully having my daughter. Blood type incompatibility. If OP sees this, talk to your cousin about the possibility about blood type incompatibility. There's this shot they make you take twice during pregnancy to ensure your baby survives, called the RhoGAM shot. What could be happening is the baby's blood type could be different from the cousin's, and the cousin's body is treating the baby like a disease as a result. I'm not saying it's definite, but it's something for OP and the cousin to look into.
The cousin should have just went into an adoption center or something, & just ask for a baby that can look like her due to “bigoted relatives” as to not out herself.
Story 1: As a member of this church, I would like to add some more information. While the aunt is correct that we believe a child should be raised in a strong, stable, and loving home and taught church doctrine. We absolutely cannot and should not force other families to do the same. Let alone try to take a child. That is way outside of the teachings of the church. Also, going to the Aunt's bishop was an interesting choice. Our bishops are unpaid, volunteers, and have very few options when it comes to discipline. Like all people, they are imperfect. They are also not police officers or therapists. When it comes to harrasment, it is much better to contact law enforcement or lawyers before going to a bishop.
LDS has the odd crazy person just like any other religion or organised group. It's aggravating when the one bad apple tarnishes the reputation of the whole bunch 🤦♀️ Even christ wouldn't claim these people as his own with thier behaviour
1st story: I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and stories like this are so frustrating when dumb members do dumb things. All the members I know would think this is stupid and dumb.
THIS! I find it so frustrating that a few terrible people give us a bad name and people just end up lumping us into this category when most of us are just trying our best to love and serve others like Jesus did and don’t support or condone this behaviour at all
I thought morality and values included not stealing someone else's baby... but obviously, most self-proclaimed "religious" people are the "rules for thee, not for me" type of hypocrites who just weaponize religion to get what they want.
2nd story maybe final update: "Hi everyone. I dont know exactly where to start with this post but kinda wanna give this update because im hoping its the last one. So, i made my last post only twleve days ago and shit kinda went down, now, i need to explain that quite a bit of this is second hand, because i luckily avoided the crazies. So basically, kay does not know where i live, knows the general town, but nothing else, i did invite one girl in our class to my house to work on a project, she was the only person other than the university that knows where i live. Kay knows this, because her and girl who imma call lilly, are kinda / kinda not related, lillys cousin is married to kays cousin, so they knew each other prior to the program but not really well, and lilly is also the one that told me about kay still calling even after the police promised me they would not show up again, which they havent they just started taking down the numbers and keeping track of who called, when, and did they call after being told not to. So basically, kay knew me and lilly were paired up for the project, knew lilly came to my house, did not know where the house was, or what it looked like, just that it was in a town x kilometers away from where they were. They also knew the town name via lillys mom, so i got warned by lilly that kays mom was going to try to find me to get me to drop kays charges (im not the one charging her, the police are, i have not pressed any charges despite some people saying i should get a restraining order). Lilly warned me, and i hid in my house and did not leave until lilly told me that kays mom had returned home, kays mom then proceeded to harrassh lilly in an attempt to get lilly to give kays mom my address so she could knock on my door instead of driving around aimlessly hoping to spot me. Lilly refused, and deleted all texts between me and her to ensure that even if kays mom stole her phone, and somehow got passed the password, that she would never get my address. Lilly then informed the university of the situation, and had proof via texts, that the university had her print off and give to them, and the police, the university security are now watching for kays moms car, and kays mom, security is informed that if and when im at school they are to escourt me to and from my car, my car is also to be parked near cameras, by order of the university, until the situation dies down. Luckily im at clinicals and not anywhere near the university, kay was kicked out before clinicals so has no idea which clinics the students are at, or which im at, had she stayed in longer she'd have a literal list posted to the class page, about where im at, and where in the building im at. Kays family apparently was informed by the police that any attempts to contact me would be harassment (so says lilly, cant guarantee) but ya. I kinda dont know how to feel, the next time i have to go to the uni is for exams in like 3 weeks, so hopefully kays family doesnt hold onto this that long, until then im safe in a building filled with security, locked doors, and places to run, the placement was also informed about this situation and with pictures from lilly (whos at a different placement) are watching for kays family, and has banned them from the premise in advance. So ummmm ya, if this goes no further i wont update anymore, but if it gets worse i guess ill update after my exams and the hesi, wish me luck because im gonna try to not stress to much about the kay situation and focus on my finals and hesi, instead of that, but dont know how thatll go. Hope yall are enjoying my mild suffering and it entertains you if only a bit, so that some good can come from this situation i cant believe im in right now, so.....ya, thanks again for the words of encouragement and kindness (some of) you showed me during this insanity, and wish lilly some luck as shes being bombarded by her family to give kays mom my address, phone number, ect, and doing her best to hold out on this, and making sure her phone is never out of her sight on the off chance she leaves it open. Anyways, hopefully this is good bye, if not, well, ill see yall in three weeksish for another update."
Christmas-Story: Yeah.. This "boyfriend" is not worth keeping! Who doesn't buy their own mum a present and then STEAL the present thst their partner made or bought for THEIR mum?! That's dumb! He IS a BAD SON!
Teacher: “can anyone give me an example of a time we *DON’T* immediately call the cops?” OP: “me! I have a disability that leads to me bumping into stuff regularly.” Teacher: “Yes, good. This is an example of something you should NOT immediately call the cops about, and instead talk to the adult first.” K: “understood: I should *repeatedly* call the cops about this and ignore everything that *EVERY* adult tells me.”
Story 2: Well, that just became a thing. Someone's calling the cops for OP's sake because she's keeps getting bruises. But the attacker is a random door.
I had bruises all the time as a kid due to my hemophilia. My mom said she got a lot of looks in public because of my scattered bruises. She had to put a blanket over the child seat in grocery cart otherwise id be covered in bruises. Thankfully no one ever called police (to my knowledge)
All of these "give me your baby" stories are just depressing to me. I was adopted at birth and i don't know where id be if my parents were the type to harrass family members into giving up their kids. My bio parents couldn't care for me and willingly put me up for adoption, my parents didn't even know them. So yeah, i hate it when people are picky with children and don't see them as humans in need of a home.
Damn the 1st story shows how some ppl just don't pay attention in class. I'm a psych student and one week we had a class on OCD and how it's not just the stereotypes you see in media. A few days later me and me colleagues were making a powerpoint presentation and I told them to make sure to center the title and a girl asked me if I had OCD just cuz of that 🙄
As a visually impaired woman I can’t count the amount of bruises I have had over the years from bumping into things. I certainly am not abused just blind n sometimes clumsy. 🤣
The door story makes me think of an anecdote from a former employer. I worked at a mom and pop pizza shop and the owner lets call her Linda, was a fairly short woman. (I estimate maybe between 4'11-5'3?) Linda was very much a hard working, boots on the ground, lead by example type boss, and she could practically run the kitchen herself if needed. I bring up the fact that she's short because the pizza oven was very tall and fairly deep, and as a result of its size relative to her, she had her fair share of burns from her arm grazing the bottom edge when it was open. During a slow day one time she told me that she once had somebody who was a licensed counselor express concern about her "self harming" because they noticed several horizontal red lines of varying ages and degrees on her wrists and forearms.
I feel so bad for the mom with a son who can’t even buy her a Christmas or birthday present. Especially when he steals his GF’s present meant for her own mother. Wtf is wrong with you dude?
Last story: wow what a terrible son, bf, and probably ex. He stole from you that was meant for your mom to give to his mom so he would look like a decent son for once. Then when he got caught, tried to blame you to save his own ass and actually thought he could guilt trip you into taking the blame and even try to steal your stuff it bluff about breaking up. He’s mad because hedoesn’t give free Xbox, and has to actually make an effort for his mother. All you women deserve so much better than this inconsiderate jerk that knows nothing but complaining blame shifting.
My arms and legs cover with cat scratches. I’m Asian with first shade of foundation, of course the scratches look very noticeable on me. Many people look uncomfortably at my arms 😂😂 but people with the cat clock that immediately
Story #1: for all those dense (in sane) freaky "mothers" who want babys: there is sth called LEGAL ADOPTION and it's available so almost everyone! All you have to do is get in contact with CPS or one of the proper channels like orphanages and such! Stop putting pressure in people in your vicinity and HELP the kids that NEED HELP!
I personally will be planning my wedding by telling vendors it’s “just a birthday party” 😂😂😂😂😂 It doesn’t change the service or items I’m requesting, I just know how “wedding” ups the price.
Story 3: He looks like a bad son because he IS a bad son. He's also a bad BF, he's stealing her things to give away to other people as presents. *edit* I'm glad she broke up with him in the end. That dude is just a user.
last story you’re ex boyfriend is a jerk for forgetting to his mother a birthday present so he thought it was a good idea to steal a cat statue from your house and lied about were he got it from then he looked like a joker when his mother had to give it back and then comes back to take another statue for his mother now he is gone make sure you change your locks and put up cameras so he can’t steal anything else from your 🤬🤬😡🤨
S2: Bruises I'm a little torn. On the one hand, OP has a perfectly rational explanation for his injuries. On the other, every victim has told those exact lies -- I ran into a door, or whatever -- to cover for their abuser. (Source: Been there, done that, got the PTSD.) And Kay is doing, or _started out_ doing what we've all been taught the last twenty years; if you see something, SAY something, right? That said, she reported the first time, an investigation was done, and *that should have been the end of it.* Kay's duty was done. Deciding to make it her personal crusade to "save" OP was, well... she fk'd around, she found out.
If the family in Story 1 really has faith in God they need to acknowledge that, maybe, God doesn't want her to have a baby. Abraham and Sarah had to wait a loooooong time to birth a son. And in the wait they thwarted God's will by having one with the maid. That did NOT end well.
1st story - cousin doesn't want the baby to have 'any issues' as though being raised by said cousin and her crazy religious mother won't give them a tone of issues
Story 1: Never go to a church related counsellor on family matters. They are always going to view the situation through the lens of their faith. In OP's case, the fact she is married to a non-Mormon means the Bishop will automatically see her as unfit.
Kay we get it you think OP is being abused when she's not. Also the last story is when the bf said "I never want to see you again" thats like when Karen says "I'm never shopping at this store again" like good we don't want you to.
6:22 calling cops I used to practice kobudo which is a martial art with cold weapons when I was young (20 something, not a child). Once a woman asked me if I needed helped because she thought it was ny boyfriend I still remember her laught when I told her I was learning to use nunchaku.
Ooof nunchaku can bruise you like no one’s business! I did martial arts as a a kid/teen and I was covered in bruises because my training partners were my friends and we always went hard with each other. My arms were mottled. Luckily I always wore t-shirts and no one ever suspected anything about abuse.
I have a similar story to the bruise story. I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, but since it's a more recently discovered condition, I wasn't diagnosed until I was 23. At the age of 9, I started having my joints pop out of place and excessive bruising from the smallest things, like lightly bumping into a table or a cat putting too much weight on one paw while in my lap. I started seeing a chiropractor, and after a year of readjustments every 3 or 4 weeks, she asked me if my dad was physically abusing me. Now, my dad can be quite a jerk, who speaks his mind (and not in a good way), so I understand why she asked, but I was extremely offended and pissed off that she assumed that; as a child, my dad never treated me poorly, quite the opposite actually. I firmly told her no, that my dad would never hit me, but she would not drop it. Her asking nicely wasn't what really upset me though. She actually blocked the door and told me that I couldn't leave until I "told her the truth". After several minutes of trying to convince her, and her practically yelling at me, demanding that I confess, I finally was so angry and scared of her, that I pushed past her HARD, and went out to my dad crying. I told him what she was accusing him of and how I had to force my way out of the room, and he confronted her, only for her to say that I was lying, that she hadn't accused him of that or tried to keep me from leaving. He told her that he hadn't raised a liar, and that we would not be coming back (to be clear, my dad had been going to her for over 12 years at that point). A few days later, my dad gets a call about the reported "abuse", and I was forced to be checked over for any "clear signs of abuse", and I had to talk with a therapist. The doctor ultimately ruled that I was not being abused, that I had early on-set arthritis and my bruises did not look like they came from abuse, but rather "from normal child clumsiness", which is what I genuinely thought it was. Fast forward to after I got diagnosed with EDS as an adult. I made a point to go to her office to tell her to her face about my diagnosis, and to tell her how I didn't appreciate how she had trapped my 10 year old self in the room and harassed me over and over to "confess", then called social services. That she could have ruined both mine and my parent's lives, and if she had suspected abuse, there were much better ways she could have handled that, instead of scaring the living hell out of me and refusing to let me leave. She just stood there, silent and dumbfounded, and I left.
I don't understand all these Reddit stories where someone is having a struggle to get pregnant and give birth to a healthy baby and yet they don't just go and adopt wich sounds like the obvious option.
I don't think it refers specially to the wedding, more to all the combined things so they don't anything of their whereabouts and interfere with their lives
Being married would make the op's spouse their next of kin, instead of the aunt or other family member. This makes it so op's partner has authority to make medical decisions for op if they are uncabable of doing so themselves.
story 3: If he treats his mother like that, imagine how he'll treat you down the road. This is just a glimpse of the future of being with someone who could care less about others.
Imagine being so narcissistic that you think everyone should do what you want so they look good regardless of what the truth is. I hope OP made sure the mom knew the truth after dumping her narcissistic BF. Be a final "F U" to him for his behavior.
BF didn't forget his mom's birthday. He deliberately didn't get anything. He didn't forget her Christmas present either. He just doesn't doesn't care to be bothered.
Yea if you're not gonna get anything, then just say you aren't getting anything. Don't lie and say you actually had a gift when you didn't. I never give gifts nowadays just because I don't know what to get people and everyone is just fine with it, theyre family, I don't go around pretending that I gave them something just to say I gave them something
Yup, and mom is used to it. That's why she was so emotional about getting the vase, and so disappointed when it turned out he got her nothing again. She wouldn't have been disappointed if he hadn't gotten her hopes up.
Yea probably. Some people really do forget that stuff though. Not that that makes it ok
And growing up, i bet the burden of picking out gifts was on the mom for the son and now he wanted to “bestow this honor” on OP.
iirc Rslash also missed the part where the mom payed for her own Birthday dinner with the bf
Story 3: It never fails to amuse me how people like that now-ex boyfriend think of themselves as a catch. "Save me the trouble of putting actual thought, let alone care, into my mother's gifts or yours and my relationship is OVER!" 😂 Despite what the common phrase states, good times are actually the best of threats.
I'm sad for the ex-boyfriend's mom. OP said she's a sweet person. She just had a terrible son. I think it would be kind gesture if OP did make her a similar cat vase but obviously OP has no obligation to do that.
Story 3: He STOLE the urn. Period. And now he's butthurt. He IS a bad son - a thief, a liar, and a victim blamer. Of course his mom was hurt - HE HURT HER. Glad he's an ex. (Lol "Dobby is free.")
Yea what the hell
And she was probably more hurt by the fact she thought her son got her something thoughtful and lovely for once. And found out he stole it and lied. I hope now they’re broken up, OP makes her another one anyway. They can still be friendly. F that dumba$$. She seemed sweet and OP was a better child to her than her own child was.
My mother is a Roman Catholic and my father is an atheist.
Their fundamentally different beliefs and opinions did not affect me in a bad way whatsoever, because both are decent people who did their best to raise me right. Their different upbringings actually helped me develop the ability to see things from different points of view and have an open mind about most things in life.
and by this lady’s logic that would probably be the dark immoral path she meant
@@endernightblade1958yeah. There's an good way to figure out if a church/religion is good or bad.
Does it promote/not suppress critical thinking? If yes, it's likely good.
Does it promote blind obedience/suppress critical thinking? If yes, it's definitely bad.
@@autisticwitch7581 You just described pretty much the majority of religions in your second categorization. Most religions I've seen do suppress critical thinking in one form or another. Maybe there are religions that don't suppress critical thinking, but I've yet to hear about one. Then again, I'm also incredibly cynical about religion by this point, and find myself more and more agreeing with atheism every day, so eh
@@autisticwitch7581Well, both my parents were adamant that my religion doesn't determine who I am, it is my deeds that count, and I am ultimately responsible for my deeds.
You cannot use religion as an excuse to be a monster.
yeah, but she sound like the type of person who would told you that you don't know what you're talking about because you mind is so oh-damage you can't possibly know what is good for you..
really those persons just want to feel justified for their actions , want to feel like they always on the right, they want so desperately believe that they are good people that they twist reality and refuse to see their bad actions resulting in them never changing and growing as persons and ended up as overgrown toddlers with no capacity for self-reflection.
It would surprise (and disappoint) you the amount of narcissist that hide behind the religious curtain
Anyone who speaks about a baby like it's some hand me down toy, especially when they have set criteria like "must fit my religious views and can't have issues" has no business trying to raise a baby.
those who view children as their possessions, they just control freaks
They didn't say religious issues, babies don't come pre religion
@@mariposa9506 The entire premise of the story is literally how op should give up her baby due to Aunt and Cousins religious affiliation 😐
@@RiveroftheWitherIt had to fit her race. Not just religious views. And couldn't have any disabilities. It is worse.
@@vidal9747 As I said to the other guy, the entire premise of this story is they want ops baby due to their different religious views. You people really need to listen to the stories.
Years ago, my grandma made the mistake of saying how much she loved a gift. The gift was pig related for some reason. For the rest of her life, she received pig related gifts regularly. She told us years later that she didn't really like pigs, but the gifts were sweet, so she just went with it. She had pig paintings, statues, and even a small crystal pig I got her. Her house was full of pigs. 😂
This is a trap I fall into all the time. 😂 I get so many gifts for things I was only somewhat into a few years prior and just pretend I love it and hope people eventually stop.
This happened with my mom and roosters 😅
This happened with my Mom and elephants. 😅
I did this to my dad with fruit cake. Every year, after we learned he loved fruit cake, he'd get a fruit cake for Christmas. I forgot how long ago it was but he just told us one Christmas that he was kinda tired of fruit cake now.
My sister actually does like pigs. But she told us her husband says no more pigs. 😂
There is only so much pig paraphernalia that can fit in an apartment. So he wasn't being unreasonable.
Story 3: He could've just said that he forgot to get a present, but nope, he decided to use OP's gift to her mom for his mom, get mad when OP corrected, and then attempt to steal one of OP's other artwork. I honestly feel bad for the mom, her son absolutely sucks and she just learned about it
I think she already knew
A white lie I've told when I forgot to get someone a gift was that I ordered one online, and it just hasn't come in, yet. In reality, I placed the order right before, or right after... But they still get a gift later, and don't feel too forgotten! 😅
People who are so casual about asking someone else to give up a child ("you can just have another one", etc) only prove that they understand nothing about parenthood and should never be put in charge of children.
Agreed, also I wouldn't be surprised to see that they'd blame the kid 'not really being hers' for any behavioral problems down the road. Kid is diagnosed with a disability later in life? "OH well now you can have the kid back, she's born wrong bc she's YOURS"
The kid turns out gay? Blame OP and the husband's 'bad genes' or something. Also where they ever gonna plan to tell the kid? Or just lie and tell the kid she can never get a DNA test. Or what if the kid turns out to be a spitting image of ops husband? Op's family seem to see a child as a toy to have and idealized this future kid that probably will never turn out they way they want.
When I was a child, a neighbor kid down the street was completely blind from birth. He was a couple of years older than me, so we never hung out. But his driveway had a fairly long slope of an entry way. I'll never forget the three weeks he tried, on his own, to learn how to ride a single (not double) bicycle. He had cuts, bruises and tenacity. It wasn't too long afterword that his parents bought a double bicycle and made one of his siblings ride in front and control the wheel.
Story 3: "If the truth makes you look bad, it's not the truth's fault"
I want this on a shirt
I love how the last boyfriend was like “I never want to see you again! Call me!”
Story 1: The aunt literally told OP she can just have another baby later on like it's THAT easy to give birth. Giving birth is NOT easy, you have to endure pain, the inconveniences, sleepless nights and many more to have your child. These two are absolutely delusional if they thought random people are just gonna give them a baby just because they demand for it. Stand your ground, do not give in to their BS.
You'd think as a mother she'd know this. Which probably means that she's even more selfish than at first glance.
And I know the church won’t get involved and likely the cops won’t as well but I wonder if OP can get lawyers involved? There is correspondence that not only is OP being coerced into giving up her baby but other moms have been harassed by OPs cousin.
Yeah and even if she does this, how do we know op will be able to have another? Also how they are acting is ironically against what the aunt's beliefs should be.
And coming from someone who's asking for a baby because she's literally incapable of "just having one" herself is legitimately insane.
You covered everything I could think of and more! :) Can you imagine??
Story2 I believe Kay was actually harrassing Op and not trying to help at all, for whatever reason. Could be jealousy or just boredom but either way, she needed to know that her behaviour was unacceptable and Op did just just that by getting the cops involved in Kay's direction.
*I'm betting Kay is calling using different names.
*lol yep
It's possible that Kay wanted to be seen as the "Savior" of OP.
When OP said the bruises came from her disability, good old Kay knew in her heart that something must be done, and SHE had to act!!! Kay to the rescue!
And even worse, say Kay was right and OP was being abused. How does repeatedly calling the cops going to help? She had no evidence except for bruises OP already explained away, never talked to OP like THE TEACHER SUGGESTED, and somehow, sending cops to OP's door is going to magically save OP from abuse?! She's in lalaland if she thinks it's that easy. If OP was being abused, OP could easily lie about the bruises and the cops wouldn't be able to do anything, because he refused to tell the truth! And if OP was being abused, wouldn't that just mean the abuser would get angrier at OP, since they'll automatically think OP called 911 or told someone about the abuse, AND ABUSE THEM HARDER?!
But of course, she didn't think about that. And FYI, I'm pretty clumsy myself, and I have vision in both eyes. Not "I'm always covered in bruises" clumsy, but enough that I occasionally find bruises and little micro-cuts from bumping into furniture, door handles, and even wide-open doorways.
I just think she was using OP to make herself look good.
It's probably fairly obvious that OP is indeed blind on one eye so I find it hard to believe she genuinely thought she was helping him.
@@bwpersona6718 I think Kays "logic" is that if she keep calling, the cops would sooner or later think OP is being forced to lie and to actually arrest their "abusers." Because nobody would call that much unless it wasn't that serious. My guess she has some sort of hero complex with her needing to "save" OP, especially since OP is disabled.
@@bwpersona6718 Oh same lol
When I was a kid, my grandmother would get me a Klutz of the Year award every year. As long as I’ve been walking and talking, she’ll always hear a thud from another room followed by a little voice calling out, “I’m okay!” I’m 27 now and it still hasn’t stopped lmao I have lost a lot of skin bit by bit to door handles. Many unidentified bruises over the years. The number of times I walk up to my fiancé and tell him all the stuff I’ve bumped into and he just says “oh honey…” haha yeah I’m a walking disaster 😂
Story 2-Kay is going to get everything she deserves for not letting things be after the first call. She KNEW OP was saying she had a disability that causes the bruises, but she not only called the cops once (once might be legitimate concern that OP is lying) but multiple times, even after being told to stop and being moved classes for harassment. What was her goal though? What was she trying to achieve? She was told so many times that OP wasn't being abused and had a disability that caused the bruises, and that if she didn't stop, she'd get in trouble eventually. But she kept going until the police filed charges against Kay for harassment and misuse of police. Also, if OP WAS being abused in this case, Kay wouldn't have been helping. A lot of abusers get worse as the police fail to help, both sue to the power of not being arrested and out of revenge against the abused for "reporting them" even if it wasn't the abused party. And the others had a point. No abuse victim is going to willingly show the marks of abuse. It's seen as shameful and many victims believe they are at fault for being abused. I just don't understand what the end goal was here...
Kay is going to jeopardize her own nursing career before she even takes the boards. If she has a criminal record she's going to find it difficult to get hired.
Feels more like Kay is actually an ableist and wanted a way to get of OP just because of his blind eye.
@@spydersoup8447 I think she's abelist in a more patronizing and 'hero complex' way than a malicious intent. It seems like she wants to be ops savior, by 'helping' op escape from abuse. And instead of being able to admit she's wrong, she continued doubling down bc admitting she was wrong, would mean admitting to herself and friends the fact that she's been harassing and accusing a disabled student of lying about abuse, and surely she's just 'such a good person, who wants to HELP and SAVE people! Oh no she couldn't POSSIBLY be *wrong*' and it's come back to bite her. Hopefully she leaves op alone.
@@vespernight4236 That makes much more sense.
@@vespernight4236 Though one thing I don't get, in the class, OP said that the bruises are from him being clumsy because of his blind eye, so why would she mistake that bit as if OP is hiding the fact that he's being abused?
How could OP's cousin think it's okay to harass *widows* for their children!?
Ahh, well, you see, she's trash.
Trying to lessen the pain of a loss with another loss
@@bigjalapeno7061I feel like your pfp is oddly fitting for the situation and your comment.
All she’s thinking about is wanting a baby in her married, religious household. She doesn’t care that she’s causing pain and turmoil in attempt to get what she wants. She only cares about having a baby.
All she cares about is ME ME ME.
The 1st one, she can't adopt. That girl wouldn't pass any psychological exams because of her desperation.
Thus, they are harrasing someone that would bypass that... 🙄🙄🙄
Story 1: It's HER child coming out of HER body, if she wants to keep the child she can. Children should only be taken away from their birth moms if they're being abused or the birth mom gives the child away willingly. No one is entitled to someone else's kids just because they want them, even if they're family. Cousin could maybe adopt or find a surrogate who's willing to give her a child, but honestly it doesn't seem like she's fit to be a mother anyway.
Story 2: Kay got what she deserved, she was harassing him and wasting police resources.
Story 3: OP is definitely not the jerk in this situation, she made the art for her own mom and it was on her boyfriend to give a gift to his mom, not her. BF knew what he was doing, stealing it and trying to pass it off as his gift for his mom. He's definitely not a good son or a good BF, and I'd say good riddance to that relationship. Glad OP is no longer dating him.
Next they'll be going around with signs saying "Legalize forced adoption"
You mean your boyfriend stole your moms gift and then tried blaming you for it.
And the tried to steal something of OPs right in front of her after breaking up with her and demanding she make things right? No baby cakes. Time has long since come for you to be an adult and adult.
Story 2: As someone who is constantly bruised up from my job, I feel for OP.
Also, NEVER go to the Bishop for advice in marriage and relationships. Honestly, the Church is a bunch of hypocrites in some capacity depending on where you are. My sister was suffering in her marriage to her Ex and the Bishop told her to stay with her Ex and try to work it out, that they needed to work it out for the children. Y'all, wtf? Ex refused to work on himself, believing nothing was wrong. My sister left for her own sake and it was like she had the plague after. No one contacted her, people she thought were friends dropped her, and no one contacted her to see if she was okay. No, they all flocked to her Ex, lamenting how my sister had 'abandoned her kids and duty as a wife and mother'. They would rather she stay in a relationship that was detrimental to her health than have her leave so she could actually be a better mom. She's much happier now with her new boyfriend who treats her kindly and doesn't get mad at her over every little thing.
But what became of the kids? I dread to imagine if there was a daughter among them.
SOOOO glad your sister is out of there! And yup, the situation sounds very mormon to me. A bunch of hypocrites the lot of them. But what would I know, I was a lazy learner lol!
Ugh.... It's stories like this that break my heart. Full disclosure, I am LDS. But stories like this break my heart. Abuse should NEVER be tolerated in our community and it makes me sick that people would suggest staying with an abuser. I agree that bishops are NOT qualified to help in cases of abuse and can often give horrible advice. If my kids or myself have issues of any sort I will be taking us to THERAPY not a bishop. I am angered sooo much hearing stories about judgemental horrific members who treat others like dirt. They are the exact opposite of how we are supposed to act. I hope your sister is thriving and happy in her new life and I am sooo relieved she got away from her abuser. I want to be horrified at her treatment, but unfortunately it's all too common in LDS communities. We need to do better.
Sure they can be bad but not all of them are bad
My great-aunt felt overwhelmed with how many kids she had and wanted to stop having more and went to the church to talk about it. The man, who was either the pastor or bishop or something along those lines told her 'no, it was her duty' 🙄and she and her husband kept having more children. I think she had 6 or 7 total? If I recall correctly, she only wanted 1-2 or maybe 3 at most and was at about 4 when she asked. She was a kind and sweet woman who deserved happiness and did the best she could. I still feel so bad for her these many years after her passing.
Story 2: calling the police on a door has to be the most Kevin things I’ve ever seen. 😂
You mean karen? 🤔🤔🤔
@@teslagod7221Kevina is the proper Reddit term 😂
Story 2: why didn't that Kay just talk with op, doing that would have been enough if she truly wanted to help op. But no, she went full Karen and called " the manager "
To me, it feels more like Kay is actually an ableist and had wanted a way to get rid of OP just because he has a blind eye.
1st story - op should the aunt that God has made it perfectly clear who he wants to have a baby
So true
Baby story - the op should have gotten legal counsel from the start. I get the sense she somehow thought the bishop would be able to force the aunt and cousin to stop, but that’s not in the range of what clergy can do. He’s a spiritual advisor not a court of law.
OPs aunt and sister are deeply entrenched in a strict religion. a spiritual leader CAN tell someone their behavior is not appropriate within their religion, and that does stop poor behavior in some people. unfortunately, mormonism prioritizes mormons and heavily penalizes those who leave. the OPs mistake was not assuming the bishop could resolve things without starting a permanent legal record: it was assuming her side could ever be taken as a non-member.
@@renfrien7009Yup 👆 On the nose there.
I agree, a bishop is a spiritual leader and that's it. One interesting thing to note with Bishops in the Mormon church is that it's not a full time permanent position. The bishop is literally just some guy from the congregation called to serve in the position. Every few years, a new bishop is called and the previous one is released. So not only are they not marriage counselors, but they're actually just regular people. And as a regular person, there's not much he can do.
And since OP and partner aren’t members of the church, he doesn’t care and we all the type of “counseling” he was suggesting.
@@renfrien7009 Not a religion, a CULT.
Third story, it sounds like breaking up was a mercy for OP. Especially with how fast he got so aggressive over being busted like that. I do agree that chances are his mom caught on too and that might've been why OP was told about the vase
I kinda do feel bad for OP, but mostly for her Ex's mom. She sounds like a sweetheart who's now stuck with a deadbeat ass of a son...
I really really really REALLY want to know the thought process of "Bruise Girl" cause that is just...baffling. I imagine it was some twisted badly thought out reasoning (maybe past abuse issues where a family member swore up and down they were just clumsy but were being abused?) but she had to have some reason for it...right?
Yeah. The reason is she thinks it's funny.
@@Clyde-S-Wilcoxor savior/hero complex
I can't imagine that's the reason @@Clyde-S-Wilcox. Maybe the first time but once she started to actually get in trouble, doing it for the lulz doesn't make sense
She's probably just a moron who refuses to respect boundaries. In her mind she always knows what's happening and what's best.
@@vanguardangel6912this is the mentality of Gen-Z. I am not one bit surprised she was so attached to being a hero and didn't listen to reason.
Why people think babies are pets? Damn, not even pets are treated that way.
In this story, I feel like cousin sees a baby more as an accessory that she must have in order to feel “complete” and not even a pet.
Story 1: I understand that struggling with infertility is very hard, but it shouldn't make you harass random mothers for their baby. I think some therapy is in order, because I don't think any child would have a good home life with the cousin's current state
Story 3:He literally stole OP's vase because of his own failure as a son
That second story. Man. The only things I can think of for why Kay was so adamant was either she was a victim of abuse as well, or she has a savior complex. There's a REASON she went off the wall with OP's accident-prone self. It still doesn't excuse it, but hopefully she got the help she clearly needed.
Like, maybe Kay grew up getting battered, and people saw the bruises, but did nothing, so she's on a personal crusade to "be the adult she needed"?
Easy bruising can be a sign of another medical condition or just genetic predisposition, like in OPs case or in my mother's case. Apparently my mother abuses herself according to Kay just by walking around since she's always got small bruises from hitting a doorknob, or having the dog step on her foot, or one time the dogs tail left a bruise on her leg the dog was wagging her tail so hard.
That sounds painful
@@bigjalapeno7061 honestly? it's not. she has chronic pain but it's not related to the bruising. people the bruise easily like that, the bruises are often very superficial and don't hurt much.
Story 3: “call me when you grow up” says the grown man acting like a toddler
2nd story: I am a huge clutz. I am covered in bruises from bumping into walls, doors, tables. I am far from being abused unless you consider being abused by objects 'suddenly' jumping out into my path. 😂
Plot twist: the house is haunted
Story 1- I also had a terrible experience in the Mormon church. Bishop was of no help and they truly see women as second class citizens. The whole congregation was against me leaving my husband even though he was physically and verbally abusive to the point that he spent time in jail.
Sure but what exactly was he supposed to do about it? He's not a judge, lawyer or law enforcement.
If the Mormon church insist on being in charge and controlling the lives of their congregation to the point they chase them down years after they try to leave, then they can act like the so-called community leaders they claim to be and support their community by helping families, protecting their congregants and being available for counseling with an actual open ear. Y'know, like churches do historically? Instead, it appears they just do their best to keep women as second class citizens and tout their supremacy over other sects while raking in the donation money.
_Please_ tell me that you served the divorce papers while he was incarcerated.
@@wingracer1614 maybe not try to convince me to stay and be compassionate to him.
@wingracer1614 Oh I don't know, call the police? Back her up? Have the congregation he has control over to help/support her while she tries to leave? Believe her? I don't know, be Christ-like? I get he's not a therapist, but being a good friend can, and often is, good enough for him to be to the members.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that without the community that didn't really act like one Barbara. It is quite hypocritical when one of their own needs their help the most, they often either ignore it or throw "the blemish" out. If it wasn't obvious enough, I'm an exmo and have seen this bullshit play out with my own parents (though nowhere near as severe as your situation). I hope you're in a better place now./gen
I am also a “Mormon” or Latter-Day Saints as we like to call ourselves. We don’t claim OP’s aunt as one of us especially if what OP says is true. Whether they’re able to provide a better life for OP’s baby is a completely different matter compared to OP’s aunt constantly harassing her by trying to steal her baby in the name of religion! If I was in her aunt’s shoes, of course I would want OP’s baby to have a better life, but I would never force her to give her baby up to me ever!
Also, that LDS Bishop is spineless if he refuses to chastise OP’s aunt for not allowing OP to do as she pleases for her own baby! It’s not OP’s aunt’s baby, it’s OP’s baby end of story!
Story 2:She is in fact harassing you and wasting resources
That first story does remind me of the strongest display of faith I've ever personally seen...
The youth minister and his wife at a church I used to go to believed God had promised them that they would have a family between the two of them; i.e. natural birth as opposed to adoption or surrogates. So they got pregnant once...and it was stillborn after a couple months. They prayed again and got the same response. So they tried again...and it was stillborn after a couple months. More discouraged, they prayed yet again and still had the same response. On the third time, they got past the "danger phase" of the first two pregnancies, and finally felt their prayer was granted. They got everything ready, went through all the normal parents with new baby preparation, and got almost to the end of the seventh month...and a stillborn.
Now, being a Christian myself, at that point I would have concluded that I wasn't really hearing the voice of God and just my own imagination, and I would have considered this time to give up. Especially since at this point they were emotionally devastated and hopeless; ESPECIALLY the wife.
Now they have two kids and I thought I remembered them hearing they had a third along the way.
Maybe kay has some weird saviour complex and can't get over the fact that OP doesn't actually need her help.
Second had an update, kay continued to call, and possibly had other people call to report abuse as the cops mentioned multiple reports, cops stopped showing up at OP’s request and began noting names and numbers, Kay was charged with misuse of police resources and harassment and has been suspended because of the charges and when the charges go through she’ll be expelled. Kay’s mom went on a hunt trying to find OP to make them drop the charges, but the county/state is bringing charges, not OP. They made the school aware and are being escorted by security to class and everyone is on the lookout for Kay and family as they aren’t allowed anywhere near OP.
As a practicing Mormon, I'm absolutely appalled by the first story! That's so messed up! We're not all like this! I promise!
Cousin and her husband are not fairies who tricked OP out of her firstborn, and should not be treated as if she owns them as such. The kid is already cherished and loved, so much, go save some that hasn't been so lucky
I hope she doesn't adopt any child in her state. The child would have an awful and probably abusive life
I never showed my bruises from a classmate. They were already visible true, but I was too scared to name him. And no one questioned why my bruises went away after he left.
But the point is, no one who is abused will draw attention to it in front of a group like that.
Story #3 - He could have paid OP to make a cat vase.
Good odds that the boyfriend was the type of cheapskate seen on r/ChoosingBeggars.
These videos are basically the only constant for me right now so I try to watch them when they drop. My town got flooded on Wednesday, and it destroyed the basement of my work. So on top of my job being closed for an estimated 3 weeks, but they cut power and water to the entire building, which includes my apartment. I’m staying with family right now, drugged up on allergy meds, trying to keep my sanity and not break down from all the stress. I’m hoping that something giid happens cuz after my week started with a ruined birthday, I am just exhausted and want to go home, but I can’t till they funally get the power and water on safely.
1st story: OP should inform the cops and other soon to be moms about her cousin and aunt. What if they steal someone else’s baby if they can’t get to OP
Story 1: Why couldn't it be a 'it takes a village' situation when parents are both overbooked at their jobs at the same time, or someone just vibes with the idea of having adventure time with the kid for a few days giving them a break as a side effect?
Because they're literally trying to force OP to hand over their child. People like that do not want and will not compromise. They'd likely refuse to return the child, try to manipulate it into believing the bio parents are bad people, ECT.
Story one.... Awnty is an entitled fool. So, she thinks OP can just pop out another baby like an effing biscuit!? 😮
OP needs a restraining order against rabid Awnty and cousin. 🤨
Yea that's weird
And hopefully the others harassed by OPs cousin would come forward with their complaints as well.
Anytime a post ends with something like, "I really love my boyfriend and want to work this out," I know the update will be a tale of how they broke up.
The aunt wants the baby to go to a very religious family and saying she wants to "put the child first" when she's literally not putting the child first at all. She's putting her religion and her own daughter before what's best for the baby and trying to intimidate the pregnant lady, causing stress to the baby, and trying to force the mom into abandoning her child.
That aunt is crazy. Also why are they talking to the bishop and not the cops? What is he supposed to do?
And with the last one, it was the ex boyfriend's fault for taking the gift ment for someone else. He really is a terrible son and boyfriend.
That’s the most common thing when someone is having a baby, but a family member can’t have or wants a different they want the other persons baby
Just because you share some kind of blood DOES NOT MEAN you are allowed to just TAKE OR FEEL OWED A BABY!
Story 2: Kay didn't think there was any abuse, she just didn't like OP. It happens. I've seen it before. I once rented a home from a nice old lady. Nice old lady went into a nursing home, and her evil cousin took over her finances, tricked nice old lady into signing a document giving her unlimited power and just mooched off of her without nice old lady's knowledge. Anyway, evil cousin rented the house next to me to nice family with two kids. And called CPS on them multiple times for no reason. And told them that I did it, which they didn't believe. She just liked hurting people and used abuse reports to do it, ironically while being an elder abuser herself. . She went to jail for stealing huge amounts of money from nice old lady.
Chrimas present:
It would not have been the best thing to give a present intended for somebody else to someone it wasn't intended to be given to. I hope op tells the mom that her son is a terrible son and a liar. I'm happy they broke up because she needs a better boyfriend who WON'T steal her hard work.
Morning everyone, talk about entitlement I do understand the infertility problems but you know can adopt right and I’m sorry for the cousin but what she’s doing isn’t the way to go
Story 1: As a Mormon myself, it’s very clear to me that OP actually meant to type Moron.
For the first story, while I also have religious differences from the aunt and cousin, I don't like seeing potential parents suffering. There might be a simple reason the cousin is constantly losing the baby, and I want to bring this up because it caused me a few miscarriages before successfully having my daughter.
Blood type incompatibility. If OP sees this, talk to your cousin about the possibility about blood type incompatibility. There's this shot they make you take twice during pregnancy to ensure your baby survives, called the RhoGAM shot. What could be happening is the baby's blood type could be different from the cousin's, and the cousin's body is treating the baby like a disease as a result. I'm not saying it's definite, but it's something for OP and the cousin to look into.
The cousin should have just went into an adoption center or something, & just ask for a baby that can look like her due to “bigoted relatives” as to not out herself.
Story 1:
As a member of this church, I would like to add some more information.
While the aunt is correct that we believe a child should be raised in a strong, stable, and loving home and taught church doctrine. We absolutely cannot and should not force other families to do the same. Let alone try to take a child. That is way outside of the teachings of the church.
Also, going to the Aunt's bishop was an interesting choice. Our bishops are unpaid, volunteers, and have very few options when it comes to discipline. Like all people, they are imperfect. They are also not police officers or therapists.
When it comes to harrasment, it is much better to contact law enforcement or lawyers before going to a bishop.
LDS has the odd crazy person just like any other religion or organised group. It's aggravating when the one bad apple tarnishes the reputation of the whole bunch 🤦♀️
Even christ wouldn't claim these people as his own with thier behaviour
1st story: I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and stories like this are so frustrating when dumb members do dumb things. All the members I know would think this is stupid and dumb.
THIS! I find it so frustrating that a few terrible people give us a bad name and people just end up lumping us into this category when most of us are just trying our best to love and serve others like Jesus did and don’t support or condone this behaviour at all
Story 3: I don't think the boyfriend has Op's back, he's still attached to his mommy. Op need to break up with him yesterday!
It pisses me off when people make false reports to the cops like story 2. Glad she got charged
Story1 Op should get a restraining order
I thought morality and values included not stealing someone else's baby... but obviously, most self-proclaimed "religious" people are the "rules for thee, not for me" type of hypocrites who just weaponize religion to get what they want.
Yea they make real religious people look bad and they're all you hear about pretty much
Dobby is free! LOL.
Good on you, OP. Next get revenge by living a good life.
Last story: If you can live on your own, you should be smart enough to blame a lack of present on a shipping delay.
2nd story maybe final update:
"Hi everyone.
I dont know exactly where to start with this post but kinda wanna give this update because im hoping its the last one.
So, i made my last post only twleve days ago and shit kinda went down, now, i need to explain that quite a bit of this is second hand, because i luckily avoided the crazies.
So basically, kay does not know where i live, knows the general town, but nothing else, i did invite one girl in our class to my house to work on a project, she was the only person other than the university that knows where i live.
Kay knows this, because her and girl who imma call lilly, are kinda / kinda not related, lillys cousin is married to kays cousin, so they knew each other prior to the program but not really well, and lilly is also the one that told me about kay still calling even after the police promised me they would not show up again, which they havent they just started taking down the numbers and keeping track of who called, when, and did they call after being told not to.
So basically, kay knew me and lilly were paired up for the project, knew lilly came to my house, did not know where the house was, or what it looked like, just that it was in a town x kilometers away from where they were.
They also knew the town name via lillys mom, so i got warned by lilly that kays mom was going to try to find me to get me to drop kays charges (im not the one charging her, the police are, i have not pressed any charges despite some people saying i should get a restraining order).
Lilly warned me, and i hid in my house and did not leave until lilly told me that kays mom had returned home, kays mom then proceeded to harrassh lilly in an attempt to get lilly to give kays mom my address so she could knock on my door instead of driving around aimlessly hoping to spot me.
Lilly refused, and deleted all texts between me and her to ensure that even if kays mom stole her phone, and somehow got passed the password, that she would never get my address.
Lilly then informed the university of the situation, and had proof via texts, that the university had her print off and give to them, and the police, the university security are now watching for kays moms car, and kays mom, security is informed that if and when im at school they are to escourt me to and from my car, my car is also to be parked near cameras, by order of the university, until the situation dies down.
Luckily im at clinicals and not anywhere near the university, kay was kicked out before clinicals so has no idea which clinics the students are at, or which im at, had she stayed in longer she'd have a literal list posted to the class page, about where im at, and where in the building im at.
Kays family apparently was informed by the police that any attempts to contact me would be harassment (so says lilly, cant guarantee) but ya.
I kinda dont know how to feel, the next time i have to go to the uni is for exams in like 3 weeks, so hopefully kays family doesnt hold onto this that long, until then im safe in a building filled with security, locked doors, and places to run, the placement was also informed about this situation and with pictures from lilly (whos at a different placement) are watching for kays family, and has banned them from the premise in advance.
So ummmm ya, if this goes no further i wont update anymore, but if it gets worse i guess ill update after my exams and the hesi, wish me luck because im gonna try to not stress to much about the kay situation and focus on my finals and hesi, instead of that, but dont know how thatll go.
Hope yall are enjoying my mild suffering and it entertains you if only a bit, so that some good can come from this situation i cant believe im in right now, so.....ya, thanks again for the words of encouragement and kindness (some of) you showed me during this insanity, and wish lilly some luck as shes being bombarded by her family to give kays mom my address, phone number, ect, and doing her best to hold out on this, and making sure her phone is never out of her sight on the off chance she leaves it open.
Anyways, hopefully this is good bye, if not, well, ill see yall in three weeksish for another update."
Christmas-Story: Yeah.. This "boyfriend" is not worth keeping! Who doesn't buy their own mum a present and then STEAL the present thst their partner made or bought for THEIR mum?! That's dumb!
He IS a BAD SON!
Christmas present:
NTA, OP. Your BF, however, is a huge one. I have NO idea how you could possibly think this is your issue at all.
Teacher: “can anyone give me an example of a time we *DON’T* immediately call the cops?”
OP: “me! I have a disability that leads to me bumping into stuff regularly.”
Teacher: “Yes, good. This is an example of something you should NOT immediately call the cops about, and instead talk to the adult first.”
K: “understood: I should *repeatedly* call the cops about this and ignore everything that *EVERY* adult tells me.”
Story 2: Well, that just became a thing. Someone's calling the cops for OP's sake because she's keeps getting bruises. But the attacker is a random door.
I had bruises all the time as a kid due to my hemophilia. My mom said she got a lot of looks in public because of my scattered bruises. She had to put a blanket over the child seat in grocery cart otherwise id be covered in bruises. Thankfully no one ever called police (to my knowledge)
All of these "give me your baby" stories are just depressing to me. I was adopted at birth and i don't know where id be if my parents were the type to harrass family members into giving up their kids. My bio parents couldn't care for me and willingly put me up for adoption, my parents didn't even know them. So yeah, i hate it when people are picky with children and don't see them as humans in need of a home.
Damn the 1st story shows how some ppl just don't pay attention in class. I'm a psych student and one week we had a class on OCD and how it's not just the stereotypes you see in media. A few days later me and me colleagues were making a powerpoint presentation and I told them to make sure to center the title and a girl asked me if I had OCD just cuz of that 🙄
As a visually impaired woman I can’t count the amount of bruises I have had over the years from bumping into things. I certainly am not abused just blind n sometimes clumsy. 🤣
The door story makes me think of an anecdote from a former employer.
I worked at a mom and pop pizza shop and the owner lets call her Linda, was a fairly short woman. (I estimate maybe between 4'11-5'3?)
Linda was very much a hard working, boots on the ground, lead by example type boss, and she could practically run the kitchen herself if needed. I bring up the fact that she's short because the pizza oven was very tall and fairly deep, and as a result of its size relative to her, she had her fair share of burns from her arm grazing the bottom edge when it was open.
During a slow day one time she told me that she once had somebody who was a licensed counselor express concern about her "self harming" because they noticed several horizontal red lines of varying ages and degrees on her wrists and forearms.
I feel so bad for the mom with a son who can’t even buy her a Christmas or birthday present. Especially when he steals his GF’s present meant for her own mother. Wtf is wrong with you dude?
Last story: wow what a terrible son, bf, and probably ex. He stole from you that was meant for your mom to give to his mom so he would look like a decent son for once. Then when he got caught, tried to blame you to save his own ass and actually thought he could guilt trip you into taking the blame and even try to steal your stuff it bluff about breaking up. He’s mad because hedoesn’t give free Xbox, and has to actually make an effort for his mother.
All you women deserve so much better than this inconsiderate jerk that knows nothing but complaining blame shifting.
My arms and legs cover with cat scratches. I’m Asian with first shade of foundation, of course the scratches look very noticeable on me. Many people look uncomfortably at my arms 😂😂 but people with the cat clock that immediately
Story #1: for all those dense (in sane) freaky "mothers" who want babys: there is sth called LEGAL ADOPTION and it's available so almost everyone! All you have to do is get in contact with CPS or one of the proper channels like orphanages and such! Stop putting pressure in people in your vicinity and HELP the kids that NEED HELP!
Best thing to listen to after a bs day and a panic attack - some rslash
I feel bad for the animals OP in the 2nd story runs into
I personally will be planning my wedding by telling vendors it’s “just a birthday party” 😂😂😂😂😂 It doesn’t change the service or items I’m requesting, I just know how “wedding” ups the price.
Oh, rslash, that second story has more updates and gets so much crazier!
Story 3: He looks like a bad son because he IS a bad son. He's also a bad BF, he's stealing her things to give away to other people as presents.
*edit* I'm glad she broke up with him in the end. That dude is just a user.
last story you’re ex boyfriend is a jerk for forgetting to his mother a birthday present so he thought it was a good idea to steal a cat statue from your house and lied about were he got it from then he looked like a joker when his mother had to give it back and then comes back to take another statue for his mother now he is gone make sure you change your locks and put up cameras so he can’t steal anything else from your 🤬🤬😡🤨
S2: Bruises
I'm a little torn.
On the one hand, OP has a perfectly rational explanation for his injuries.
On the other, every victim has told those exact lies -- I ran into a door, or whatever -- to cover for their abuser. (Source: Been there, done that, got the PTSD.)
And Kay is doing, or _started out_ doing what we've all been taught the last twenty years; if you see something, SAY something, right?
That said, she reported the first time, an investigation was done, and *that should have been the end of it.* Kay's duty was done. Deciding to make it her personal crusade to "save" OP was, well... she fk'd around, she found out.
If the family in Story 1 really has faith in God they need to acknowledge that, maybe, God doesn't want her to have a baby.
Abraham and Sarah had to wait a loooooong time to birth a son. And in the wait they thwarted God's will by having one with the maid.
That did NOT end well.
Story 2: Kay does not give a fuck about OP. She wants to praised for “saving OP” and will not listen to her. Kay is nothing but a attention seeker.
10:32 a person can be charged with a false report if they repeatedly misuse 911 all the time
1st story - cousin doesn't want the baby to have 'any issues' as though being raised by said cousin and her crazy religious mother won't give them a tone of issues
Story 1: Never go to a church related counsellor on family matters. They are always going to view the situation through the lens of their faith. In OP's case, the fact she is married to a non-Mormon means the Bishop will automatically see her as unfit.
Every child deserves a loving home.
Not every person deserves a child.
Kay we get it you think OP is being abused when she's not.
Also the last story is when the bf said "I never want to see you again" thats like when Karen says "I'm never shopping at this store again" like good we don't want you to.
6:22 calling cops
I used to practice kobudo which is a martial art with cold weapons when I was young (20 something, not a child). Once a woman asked me if I needed helped because she thought it was ny boyfriend I still remember her laught when I told her I was learning to use nunchaku.
Ooof nunchaku can bruise you like no one’s business! I did martial arts as a a kid/teen and I was covered in bruises because my training partners were my friends and we always went hard with each other. My arms were mottled. Luckily I always wore t-shirts and no one ever suspected anything about abuse.
I have a similar story to the bruise story. I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, but since it's a more recently discovered condition, I wasn't diagnosed until I was 23. At the age of 9, I started having my joints pop out of place and excessive bruising from the smallest things, like lightly bumping into a table or a cat putting too much weight on one paw while in my lap. I started seeing a chiropractor, and after a year of readjustments every 3 or 4 weeks, she asked me if my dad was physically abusing me. Now, my dad can be quite a jerk, who speaks his mind (and not in a good way), so I understand why she asked, but I was extremely offended and pissed off that she assumed that; as a child, my dad never treated me poorly, quite the opposite actually. I firmly told her no, that my dad would never hit me, but she would not drop it. Her asking nicely wasn't what really upset me though. She actually blocked the door and told me that I couldn't leave until I "told her the truth". After several minutes of trying to convince her, and her practically yelling at me, demanding that I confess, I finally was so angry and scared of her, that I pushed past her HARD, and went out to my dad crying. I told him what she was accusing him of and how I had to force my way out of the room, and he confronted her, only for her to say that I was lying, that she hadn't accused him of that or tried to keep me from leaving. He told her that he hadn't raised a liar, and that we would not be coming back (to be clear, my dad had been going to her for over 12 years at that point). A few days later, my dad gets a call about the reported "abuse", and I was forced to be checked over for any "clear signs of abuse", and I had to talk with a therapist. The doctor ultimately ruled that I was not being abused, that I had early on-set arthritis and my bruises did not look like they came from abuse, but rather "from normal child clumsiness", which is what I genuinely thought it was. Fast forward to after I got diagnosed with EDS as an adult. I made a point to go to her office to tell her to her face about my diagnosis, and to tell her how I didn't appreciate how she had trapped my 10 year old self in the room and harassed me over and over to "confess", then called social services. That she could have ruined both mine and my parent's lives, and if she had suspected abuse, there were much better ways she could have handled that, instead of scaring the living hell out of me and refusing to let me leave. She just stood there, silent and dumbfounded, and I left.
I don't understand all these Reddit stories where someone is having a struggle to get pregnant and give birth to a healthy baby and yet they don't just go and adopt wich sounds like the obvious option.
1:45 What does a private ceremony have to do with medical decisions?
I don't think it refers specially to the wedding, more to all the combined things so they don't anything of their whereabouts and interfere with their lives
Being married would make the op's spouse their next of kin, instead of the aunt or other family member. This makes it so op's partner has authority to make medical decisions for op if they are uncabable of doing so themselves.
@@shatteredlazuli8092 ah I see
@@Taylor-kd9ld true but in my country you can literally assign any one to be the one who like controls things for you when you can’t
story 3: If he treats his mother like that, imagine how he'll treat you down the road. This is just a glimpse of the future of being with someone who could care less about others.
Imagine being so narcissistic that you think everyone should do what you want so they look good regardless of what the truth is. I hope OP made sure the mom knew the truth after dumping her narcissistic BF. Be a final "F U" to him for his behavior.