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Never heard it explained this way, good explanation!!
I do not believe angels are the sons of God in Genesis 6
Hebrews 1:5-7
5 For to which of the angels did He ever say:
“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?
And again:
“I will be to Him a Father,
And He shall be to Me a Son”?
6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:
“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”
7 And of the angels He says:
“Who makes His angels spirits
And His ministers a flame of fire.”
Here it is clear that God does not refer to angels as a son and He makes angels spirits. This Passage in scripture seals the deal!!!
Here's a clue do what you will with it: Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the son's of God came to present themselves before the LORD(YHVH) and Sa-tan came also among them.
Job 2:2, God lost son's to Sa-tan Revelation 12:4, 12:7-11, the main purpose of Man's creation Gen.1:26-27, I s to restore the priesthood of the fallen son's of God, to bring offeriñgs of Love In Righteousness, the fallen son's rebelled and followed the serpent took the seed of a lie, Isa 14:12-15, was a anointed Cherub Ezk. 28:12-19, Ezk.31:1-11, pride and wickedness and covenant breakers, remember they refused to Love Him and followed the vain person, now we have a "New High Priest Matthew 3:15-17, Hebrews 5:5-14, Hebrews 8:1-28 , 9:1-28, 11:12-16 and much more. Keep the Covenant and Commandments of Love, that we enter in as Son's Of Righteousness, Having our High Priest To Give Glory Hounor And Praise, willing to walk away from all countries to find that which was lost.
Seven there are plenty of other scriptures that also prove that Angel's are not sons of God. If you get a chance see my video Nephilim Debunked for more.
SEVEN wrong. The sons of God (angels) are mentioned 3 other times in the book of Job! Read up
Genesis 6:4 is not about fallen angels. The context of the passage never implies angels. In chapter 5 was about Seth offsprings and Cain offsprings. Second, Genesis says that the Nephilims already existed before the sons of God and the daughter of man had their thing. Third, Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 is not about angels presenting to God because Jesus said in Matthew 18:10 that angels are always in the presence of God. The only time sons of God is about angels is in Job 38:7, and the verse explains it to us that there are angels because before it says sons of God, says morning stars. Fourth, king David said that God forms every person in womb and every human is created in the image God. Angels are not created in the image of God, so by saying that fallen angels had sexual relationships with woman is contradicting what God said that every human is created by his image. And my final point is that the book of enoch is not proof of that because that is a false book, is pseudo epigraphy and has contradictions.
Jesus said that in the resurrection they will not marry but are like the angels of heaven. So angels probably can't procreate.
You are assuming that the angels procreated naturally. The Bible says in the times of Noah so shall be in the coming of the Son of Man. If we look today scientists are talking about producing test-tube babies, having gay couples use their DNA to produce children... In the times of Noah the Angles did the same with their own DNA, human DNA, and animal DNA. This was done NOT by sexual relations (tho their offspring could have I suppose) but by advanced knowledge. The book of Enoch quoted in Jude as well as 2Peter tell us they were angels, not man. We see the same name again in Job when it talks of the sons of God and satan came before God. The Bible is really clear about this topic, ANYONE who does not believe Genesis 6 was speaking of Angels should not be teaching others its that simple.
It many also mean that people, like the angels of heaven, will only live to serve God and therefore will not marry!
@@fishersofmen4727 angels, not angles
@@sonnyroy497 same thing right 😂
When Lucifer fell he ended up with a physical body, maybe the Angels who fell with him also had a body in the earth and looked like a race of people, bible says we can entertain Angels unaware when entertaining strangers, so they can change into human form, I use to think Gen 1 was another creation before Adam vs Vrs Gen 2 but even if it was the fall didn’t happen yet so they wouldn’t have been falling Angels if the Gen 1 creation is another from Gen 2, giants showing up again maybe offspring of giants in the sea, only earth creatures were destroyed, but what about sea creatures or maybe even flying creatures that might have survived, very deep topic, till this day there’s some people with an unknown blood type, they contain 2-9 % of unknown neg blood type, they have lots of spirit effects as well
Love you brother, we absolutely loved having you in North Dakota. God has given you a gift that you have not abused.
Happy trails
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I deeply love North Dakota and the wonderful Apostolics there! God Bless!
And don’t forget that Abraham made food for the angels too...
They dont understand, because they limit God and his angels with carnal understanding.
Angels have no need for food. A prophet of God, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks: GOD'S ANGELS CANNOT AND DO NOT "FALL." And if you think angels can fall, "You do err, not knowing Scriptures nor the power of God." Furthermore, absolutely all intelligent beings in this Universe are the "sons of God, " be they from this planet or another. ("Is it not written in your law, 'I have said ye are gods'?" "I have said ye are gods and all of you are children of the Most High.") BUT MOST ARE UNAWARE OF THIS FACT. And when the Bible speaks of "the sons of God" it is simply referring to beings who have advanced far enough spiritually that they ARE fully aware of what they are. And the "sons of God" mating with the "daughters of men" were spiritually- advanced beings from elsewhere that were "backsliding," and mated with less spiritually-advanced Earth women. But know this: absolutely EVERYTHING is part of God's perfect plan, without exception. (I don't receive TH-cam comment notifications, but those who seek can easily find how to contact me.)
Genesis 6:4 is not about fallen angels. The context of the passage never implies angels. In chapter 5 was about Seth offsprings and Cain offsprings. Second, Genesis says that the Nephilims already existed before the sons of God and the daughter of man had their thing. Third, Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 is not about angels presenting to God because Jesus said in Matthew 18:10 that angels are always in the presence of God. The only time sons of God is about angels is in Job 38:7, and the verse explains it to us that there are angels because before it says sons of God, says morning stars. Fourth, king David said that God forms every person in womb and every human is created in the image God. Angels are not created in the image of God, so by saying that fallen angels had sexual relationships with woman is contradicting what God said that every human is created by his image. And my final point is that the book of enoch is not proof of that because that is a false book, is pseudo epigraphy and has contradictions.
I reckon that we really just don't know. Some people really think they know but I'm not sure they do. Especially if we stick to just the Word of God.
I think you have made a reasonable comment. I think we need to keep an open mind on this one.
I know. See my video Nephilim Debunked. It is full of God's Word for the truth. The Bible explains itself. See the video and you will know the Truth.
the whole thing boils down to this... do you believe that God is absolute truth.?. if so... then you believe it exists... the question becomes.. can one know absolute truth on anything in this life?.. just because we do not know what is true regarding Genesis 6:4 does Not mean that there is Not an absolute truth to be known about it...
The idea of angels and humans procreating and creating superhumans may be similar to the documented examples of ligers and tigons.
Except both those are Feline mammals. Angels are spirits and we are flesh. Vast difference.
I made the mistake of reading some of the comments, wow. I guess everyone has their own views, but some of the ignorance I read below is scary. God bless you brother, I like how you presented each case/viewpoint. I'll just say we differ on this point and that's ok.
Keep it up! Looking forward for more videos from you, don't stop!
Romans 5 is talking about those that sinned before the law came, from Adam to Moses (by whom the law came). It’s says that “sin is not imputed where there is no law yet death reigned” Adam transgressed a direct commandment of God, up untill the law came by Moses there was no commandment given to those who had already died. Even though they hadn’t directly transgressed like Adam, death ruled over them anyway as part of the curse and fall of man.
Adam was 130 years old when Seth was born, therefore the time in the Garden was well below 130 years after day six of creation.
Probably under 100 years, Cain and Abel fit in after the fall in the Garden.
Angels who took on human form(Left their first estate) could eat, drink, wrestle and perhaps procreate outside of God's plan.
If Noah's wife had one recessive gene of the Nephilim and gave it to Ham as he raped his Mother(Sin) epigenetics(God's wrath can follow seven generations),
his gene and hers in Sin could have rekindled the Nephilim.
Noah's nakedness, having sex with Noah's wife(See Lev 18 thru 20)
Noah was perfect in his generations, wives are not mentioned either way.
Please at least give consideration to the pieces, each researched at length, years, and how they can actually fit together Biblically.
Love your work, brilliantly and methodically researched and presented.
*_God Bless_*
Dr. Michael Heiser supports what the Bible actually says, even if he then does not believe it as more than metaphor himself.
Why did Noah’s sons go backwards and cover him up?
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa They covered Noah's nakedness
(His Wife) Lev 18 thru 20.
Might I add, you are one of the best Pastors out there.
*_Thank you and God Bless_*
You have some good points but also some misconceptions about verses. It's easier to explain if you just do the obvious and take apart the scriptures misquoted. Questions:
1) Why was Cain's lineage recorded? Not in details ( with ages). Didn't Adam and Eve have more sons and daughters?
2) Why such details in Seth's lineage? Who was the father of Adam? What does in the image of Adam mean? See Luke lineage of Christ. Adam the son of God.
3) How many times is the word Man or men used in Genesis 6? Why no punishment given to angels in Genesis 6?
4) Why does Jude and 2 Peter equate Noah flood with Sodom and Gomorrah? Were fallen angels responsible for that?
5) What does Hebrew 1:5 mean? Why was Satan among them but not counted as one in Job?
6) Does man 120 years mean his lifespan or the 120 years it took Noah to build the ark?
7) Where actually does the word Nephilite come from? Was it original Hebrew word?
8) How many times does the words Son or Son's of God refer to men in the entire Bible?
thank you! my questions too
Adam & Eve had 5 -2 sets of twins & Seth married Able's twin
Cain took his own sister -corruption
for she was more beautiful than her mother!
so the book of Adam & Eve #2 said
i believe Cains children only lived 120 yrs
120 yrs of jubilees = 7000 yrs
also the sons He is making in His image by Word! 144000
regenerated bodies are like the angles not given in marriage
didn't say Giants were the sons but that they were there...
punctuation's were add 'just more questions!
@@debbycrowell303 I have good news for you. There is medication for this. :)
@@RT-gv6us the Word of God !!!
Reading asking believing
Trusting in His Word!
I would be very carefull
Ur foot to end up in Mouth spewed out
Genesis 6:4 is not about fallen angels. The context of the passage never implies angels. In chapter 5 was about Seth offsprings and Cain offsprings. Second, Genesis says that the Nephilims already existed before the sons of God and the daughter of man had their thing. Third, Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 is not about angels presenting to God because Jesus said in Matthew 18:10 that angels are always in the presence of God. The only time sons of God is about angels is in Job 38:7, and the verse explains it to us that there are angels because before it says sons of God, says morning stars. Fourth, king David said that God forms every person in womb and every human is created in the image God. Angels are not created in the image of God, so by saying that fallen angels had sexual relationships with woman is contradicting what God said that every human is created by his image. And my final point is that the book of enoch is not proof of that because that is a false book, is pseudo epigraphy and has contradictions.
Be hospital because you never know when you will entertain Angel's unaware. (They can be physical.) As when Abraham fed messiah and his 2 Angel's that rescued lot. The bene Elohim are Angel's.
the question is 2 fold... for 1... no one said that angels cannot be manifest as mortals....the discrepancy is that we are talking about demonic angels.. Not heavenly ones.....heavenly angels are not bound by the same restrictions as demonic ones.. and 2... a major difference.. you are talking about angels coming to earth.. to talk or sup with a human...in the case of Abraham...AND Genesis 6 pro angelists.. are saying these angels procreated.. with mankind.. a big difference!....
Show me the words rapture or fallen angels in the bible.
Jude referred to the book of enoch, also the Angel's which kept not their estate but left ( fell to earth) God has kept them in chains of darkness till the day of judgement ( new testement)
No it does not state Cain was the first born. I see your point. I guess everyone assumes it was by the attitude of Eve. She seems to express gratitude to God for allowing her to have a child so we assume it’s her first. Maybe Cain wasn’t her first.
First son after the Fall.
Explaining the Nephilim (Hebrew)
Nephilim, a Hebrew word meaning 'those who have fallen' or 'the fallen ones.
Strong's Concordance for Nephilim (Hebrew) is H5303 and is derived from the word Nephal is H5307. Nephal is to fall, lie or cast down.Naphal is a Hebrew word.Using the Hebrew word Naphal which you get the Hebrew word Nephilim.
Job1:20 "Then Job arose, tore his robe, and shaved his head; and he FELL to the ground and worshiped."
The word "FELL" in Job 1:20 when translated to Hebrew is the word Naphal. Job also presented God with burnt offerings found in Job 1:5, which is fitting Job 1:5 is right before Job 1:6. Job 1:6 mentions "sons of God"
Hebrew use is the Nephilim would fall (Naphal) to the ground like Job 1:20 mentions, so it would be in a state of worship, probably on their knees.
In Genesis 6:4 the Nephilim (Hebrew) are in a position of worship or falling to the ground and worshiping. Man has twisted the meaning of the word and changed the meaning of the word "Nephilim" to some a giant form of hybrid. That is how deception works and many are mislead and deceived. By twisting and changing the word Nephilim which is a state of worship towards God,it is now a word that takes away the worship to God and how man worshiped and was presented before God in that day or time period. Man also mixes in the Greek/English word "Gigantes/Giant" to make this sound believable with this giant hybrid.
With using both Hebrew and Greek/English there is more than one meaning or use of the words Nephilim and Gigantes/Giants. There is a DOUBLE meaning or a play on words on how the words Nephilim and Gigantes/Giants is used , because of Hebrew, Greek and English or to say which language is used.
What Man has done done is remove what God says about years in verse 3 and ignore the giant life spans mentioned in Genesis chapter 5. Man has replaced Years and Giant life spans with height, no different how the Hebrew word Nephilim was replaced and was meant to be a Hebrew use of the word for worshiping God.
When a person reads Genesis 6:4 using the words Gigantes/Giants (Greek/English) or Nephilim (Hebrew), the verse is pointing to Genesis chapter 5. Genesis 5 is a Genealogy line from Adam to Noah. Father and son are listed over and over. Genesis 5 is an OFFSPRING list. Genesis 5 is also the "sons of God".
Genesis 6:2-4 "2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were giants (nephilim) on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
When applying Genesis 5 and Context of scripture a person can read and understand Genesis 6: 2-4 more clearly. The "sons of God" took wives and had offspring. When it mentions they took wives could just mean just that, not just the line of Cain's daughters as wives. Although the Seth view does defend marriage between a man and a woman, just how God instituted marriage and is a theme in the Bible that believer should not marry an unbeliever, but never includes burnt offerings. The beginning of Genesis 6 is just basically summarizing the Genealogy line in Genesis 5. It is very fitting that a Genealogy line or a Offspring line is mentioned right before Genesis 6.
That same Genealogy line that is written in Genesis 5 can also be found in Luke 3. Luke record the Genealogy line or to say the blood line to Jesus, Who is the Son of God. Luke 3 is a list and many translations in Luke 3 lists the line as "sons of God".
The "sons of God" mentioned in Genesis 6:2 and 6:4 are men, Not angels. The "sons of God" are mentioned in Genesis 5. They are "sons of God" because they presented Burnt Offerings to God. Sons would be a theme in Genesis 5 and years would be a theme in Genesis 5. Burnt offerings started with Abel in Genesis 4:4 "Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the Lord respected Abel and his offering,"
The offering Abel presented to God was probably a burnt offering. These kinds of offerings probably were handed down. Seth stepped in the place of Abel. Seth's name in Hebrew means appointed, a substitute, anointed or compensation.
Genesis 5 is the list of the "sons of God" who presented burnt offerings to God. Adam is a direct creation of Adam. Seth is next on the genealogy line all the way to Noah. Noah presents a burnt offering to God in Genesis 8:20 "Then Noah built an altar to the Lord, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.
The only way Noah would have known about a burnt offering is that his father would have presented burnt offerings to God. Noah's father was Lamech (Gen. 5: 28,29).
Burnt offerings is how man worshiped God, how sin was dealt with and how God made man righteous in His sight. Burnt offerings was the relationship between God and man. The Hebrew "bene elohim" when translated is "sons of God" fits perfectly when a person apply's burnt offerings. Burnt offerings are a foreshadowing of what Jesus did on the Cross. Jesus dealt with SIN on the Cross, that is why believers of what Jesus did on the Cross are "sons of God" or to say children of God. Jesus sacrifice on the Cross supersedes the burnt offerings that were presented in the OT.
This all basically comes down to is how God provided a way for the "sons of God' in both the OT and NT with a sacrifice/substitute for sin. A person needs Faith in how God dealt with sin so believers can be called the sons of God or a child of God.
Excellent... Didn't even have to explain Hams lineage...😂😂🤣
Thanks for sharing...
I agreed with you! Genesis 6:4 is not about fallen angels. The context of the passage never implies angels. In chapter 5 was about Seth offsprings and Cain offsprings. Second, Genesis says that the Nephilims already existed before the sons of God and the daughter of man had their thing. Third, Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 is not about angels presenting to God because Jesus said in Matthew 18:10 that angels are always in the presence of God. The only time sons of God is about angels is in Job 38:7, and the verse explains it to us that there are angels because before it says sons of God, says morning stars. Fourth, king David said that God forms every person in womb and every human is created in the image God. Angels are not created in the image of God, so by saying that fallen angels had sexual relationships with woman is contradicting what God said that every human is created by his image. And my final point is that the book of enoch is not proof of that because that is a false book, is pseudo epigraphy and has contradictions.
@@diegovalleperez3360 Thanks for responding, it is an old comment.........My view also has enhanced more since this post, I see sons of God in an Adopted status because of the burnt offerings and animal sacrifices. Ya you are totally right on the book of Enoch it is not proof and is a false book. I see the book of Enoch as "Fools Gold" and totally false.
@Dexter001 I’m glad to hear that! I hear some Christians try to justify that Genesis 6:4 is about celestial beings when that contradicts the teachings of the Bible. The book of enoch is demonic! It has so many contradictions, is disgusting.
The Bible interprets the Bible. What men thinks means error.
the only thing about the procreation in the garden theory brings to question is.. was Cain Not the first born of Adam and Eve as the bible implies?.. and did the events of Genesis 4:1-2 take place.. before the fall.?. when Adam and Eve were expelled from the garden did they have a horde of children including Cai and Abel with them?...
Does it say Cain was the firstborn? I’m sincerely asking.
Because of your UNBELIEF, no you can't see that far. There are think that you are not permitted to know. Why, your level of belief stops you. Why didn't Moses go into the promise land? The same reason you can't advance...unbelief (number 20; 13 results Deuteronomy CHAPTER 34
That only speaks of human men marrying human women, not angels or demons.
Hebrews 1:5 For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father"? Or again, “I will be his Father, and he will be my Son"? (How long did it take from the time Adam and Eve were created until they sinned? One Chapter!) lol
quick question Off topic.. if you were to choose between 2 prophecy bibles which would you choose...?.. Rex Hubbard or Tim Le Haye?...
LaHaye
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa thank you very much
Adam and Eve were never told to be fruitful and multiply ✖.
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Where at the time of their marriage did God give a blessing to multiply ✖?
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But everyone can easily find the curse to multiply ✖.
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Jesus said the angels in heaven can either marry nor be given in marriage, keyword being in heaven, fallen Angels do as they please, or is that you are permitted
Do you feel God "allowed " these beings to procreate then?.. if so, what was His purpose?...did He allow the D.N.A. of Hams wife to be tainted so that one day He would be glorified by David slaying Goliath?..
A prophet of God, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks: GOD'S ANGELS CANNOT AND DO NOT "FALL." And if you think angels can fall, "You do err, not knowing Scriptures nor the power of God." Furthermore, absolutely all intelligent beings in this Universe are the "sons of God, " be they from this planet or another. ("Is it not written in your law, 'I have said ye are gods'?" "I have said ye are gods and all of you are children of the Most High.") BUT MOST ARE UNAWARE OF THIS FACT. And when the Bible speaks of "the sons of God" it is simply referring to beings who have advanced far enough spiritually that they ARE fully aware of what they are. And the "sons of God" mating with the "daughters of men" were spiritually- advanced beings from elsewhere that were "backsliding," and mated with less spiritually-advanced Earth women. But know this: absolutely EVERYTHING is part of God's perfect plan, without exception. (I don't receive TH-cam comment notifications, but those who seek can easily find how to contact me.)
I disagree with them being Angels.. and Matthew Henry and John Gill are 2 of the commentators..amongst some others that believe the Sons of God may be righteous men as well..I DID have a list of the commentators.. who believe that there is a possibility that these Sons of God.. were Not angels.. just righteous men..so it is Not Just me.....oh,.. James Burton Coffman.. is another one off the top of my head...I am Not making this theory up... but to me there is just Not enough biblical evidence.. to substantiate the Sons of God in Job 1:6 or in Genesis chapter 6 refering to Angels... If the Devil was allowed in Heaven.. (since you believe these were angels) in Job 1:6 .. then the council must have been there.. in Job 1:6.. then this would have had to taken place before the fall of Lucifer...correct?...God would Not let Lucifer back into heaven after Lucifer's expulsion would He.?. and if this took place before the expulsion of Lucifer.. then the events of Job 1:6 must have taken place before the temptation of Adam and Eve in the Garden... can you Back that evaluation up?.. or prove..biblically..how Job took place before the fall of Man.?...and since I don't think this order of events can be proven.. hence the possibility is out there that these Sons of God were Not angels...
If Cain was indeed born before the fall then does this mean his nature of rebellion toward God was Not the result of original sin ? But some other issue. Such as one suggested. The devil tainting. Eves. Eggs in the womb. ?
I never implied Cain was born before the Fall.
The sons of God were probably the old guard that were like 900 years old and had actually talked to God in their youth like adam, seth, cain, and their immediate offspring. They looked at the young, new generation of 120 years and seen how pretty they were.
(14:17)
Love the *TRUTH *????
OR
LIVE IN IGNORANCE????
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JESUS CHRIST SAID GO UTO ALL THE CREATURES OF THE EARTH 🌎 and teach my Gospel.
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Dogs? Cats?
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa
Wouldn't common sense thinkers, know the answer to ***ALL CREATURES*** of the earth 🌎???
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The sons and the daughters of God are the descendents of Adam, the one that God had formed from mudd and been given His breath of everlasting life, who has been created on the third day. The mere mortal human had been created on the sixth day, and they all vanished already in the flood. You can also connect this revelation with Psalm 82 and John 10 : 34-36. Gbu
HEB 1.14 says ALL angels are ministering spirits not just 2/3 of them. Another tradition. Of men?
Much discussion there. Could mean current angels etc.
Excellent discussion. I agree with you and have had this view for many years. Adam and Eve being perfect fulfilled God's command to be fruitful and multiply (to procreate) so they had children before the fall as these were the sons of God in Genesis 6. Great explaining this view compared to the other views. Very fair and balanced and I believe this will encourage other Christians to study God's word more and to get them thinking.
Amen my friend! God bless!
Amen nope my friend nobody on human form. ever called sons of God ok
Only Adam
Do not believe so. Why can't we just go by the Bible? Why list Cain's lineage? Didn't Adam and Eve have other son's? Why lineage of Seth with such detail? ( Ages) . How many times did God warn the Hebrews or Israel not to intermingle with other cultures? Was this command directed to men more than women? Also see lineage of Christ in Luke. Adam the son of God. Seth in Adams image...etc.
@@antoniovalencia9748 what about the sons of God in Job 1:8 ? many think these were not angels but righteous men gathering in God s name and He entered their midst.. as God does with believers praying today...
What about those giants with 6 fingers isn't that a mix with the angels and women. They messed with our genes?
I think it was just genetic abnormalities due to dna degradation.
Genesis 6:4 is not about fallen angels. The context of the passage never implies angels. In chapter 5 was about Seth offsprings and Cain offsprings. Second, Genesis says that the Nephilims already existed before the sons of God and the daughter of man had their thing. Third, Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 is not about angels presenting to God because Jesus said in Matthew 18:10 that angels are always in the presence of God. The only time sons of God is about angels is in Job 38:7, and the verse explains it to us that there are angels because before it says sons of God, says morning stars. Fourth, king David said that God forms every person in womb and every human is created in the image God. Angels are not created in the image of God, so by saying that fallen angels had sexual relationships with woman is contradicting what God said that every human is created by his image. And my final point is that the book of enoch is not proof of that because that is a false book, is pseudo epigraphy and has contradictions.
Ben 'ae, eloheem ( sons of God) ANGEL'S OF GOD. This is why the tares are definitely amongst us ( shapeshifters) , although they do not marry they can form physical and spiritual bodies, just like jesus passing through the crowds un notist. Also see " book of enoch ", " book of jasher " chap 4 ( mixing of species).
There is NOTHING IN SCRIPTURE that says the SON'S OF GOD sinned.
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Great lesson thank you Brother ! One question tho who are the Sasquatch ? Because I have literally seen one and I'm a born again Baptized in Jesus name child of the King
A breed of animal like the Orangatang or something.
Get the book (Judgement of the Nephilum) by David Pitterson. I believe they were definitely fallen angels. I think most people just can't handle this view.
Genesis 6:4 is not about fallen angels. The context of the passage never implies angels. In chapter 5 was about Seth offsprings and Cain offsprings. Second, Genesis says that the Nephilims already existed before the sons of God and the daughter of man had their thing. Third, Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 is not about angels presenting to God because Jesus said in Matthew 18:10 that angels are always in the presence of God. The only time sons of God is about angels is in Job 38:7, and the verse explains it to us that there are angels because before it says sons of God, says morning stars. Fourth, king David said that God forms every person in womb and every human is created in the image God. Angels are not created in the image of God, so by saying that fallen angels had sexual relationships with woman is contradicting what God said that every human is created by his image. And my final point is that the book of enoch is not proof of that because that is a false book, is pseudo epigraphy and has contradictions.
It is not a case of :being "able to handle a view: or not".. the question is, does the bible support the fallen angel theory?... just because there is literature out there trying to prove the fallen angel theory and make it sound plausible.. does Not mean it is accurate... as a previous pastor of mine used to say let the scripture teach scripture...anyone can write a book .if they have enough things to say...
My take on this subject is that it was not already fallen angels mating with the women but rather Holy Watcher angels that had the ability to take on human form to interact with the humans on earth. They were fine until Satan enticed them to desire the women for themselves and they fell from their position at that time.
Satan also enticed the women to
' lure ' them in.
I believe Satan, Lucifer, could not perform the act himself so he got others that could to do it for him.
All for the purpose of destroying the seed of the woman to bring forth the one who would ' bruise his head '
Yes it was holy watcher angles but once they had sinned they were known as fallen angels because they had fallen from God's grace.
@@wperkins225 right, they were not of the original fallen but ended up being in worse place.
Shows that Satan can talk anybody into doing things.
The book of job refers to sons of God as Angel's. Scripture interprets scripture, lean not to your own understanding.
No need to cite other sources as all the explination is in the Scriptures.
Genesis 6:4 is not about fallen angels. The context of the passage never implies angels. In chapter 5 was about Seth offsprings and Cain offsprings. Second, Genesis says that the Nephilims already existed before the sons of God and the daughter of man had their thing. Third, Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 is not about angels presenting to God because Jesus said in Matthew 18:10 that angels are always in the presence of God. The only time sons of God is about angels is in Job 38:7, and the verse explains it to us that there are angels because before it says sons of God, says morning stars. Fourth, king David said that God forms every person in womb and every human is created in the image God. Angels are not created in the image of God, so by saying that fallen angels had sexual relationships with woman is contradicting what God said that every human is created by his image. And my final point is that the book of enoch is not proof of that because that is a false book, is pseudo epigraphy and has contradictions.
Right
The children of Shem. The sons of Cain are called Nephilim
Explaining the Giants/Nephilim in Genesis 6:4.
It actually is a play on words with the Nephilim (Hebrew) and Gigantes (Greek) and Giants (English) when describing the sons of God, meaning that there is a play on the words Nephilim (Hebrew) and Gigantis/Giants (Greek/English).
Genesis 6:3 & 4 (NKJV)
3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were GIGANTES/ GIANTS on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Genesis 6: 3 & 4 (NIV)
3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.” 4 The NEPHILIM were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
NOTICE the NKJV translations uses the word GIGANTES/GIANTS (Greek/English) in Genesis 6:4.Other Bible translations that use "GIANTS" are the KJV, MSG, JUB 2000, GNV 1599, DRA 1899, 1611 KJV and other Bible translations no need to mention.
NOTICE in Genesis 6:4 and the NIV translation uses the word NEPHILIM (Hebrew). Other Bible translations that use "NEPHILIM" are the ESV, MEV, AMP, NASB, RSV, ICB, NET, and other Bible translations no need to mention.
With English speaking and writing language translation some Bibles will use the Greek/English or the Hebrew.
In Genesis 6: 4 the English/Greek word "Giants" is used and in Hebrew it would be "Nephilim". It is plural use of the words (Giants,Gigantes/Nephilim), not singular use of the words (Giants, Gigantes/Nephilim).
In verse 3 God said about man that his days shall be 120 years.Years is a theme in Genesis 5 the previous chapter.Years is emphasized over and over in Genesis 5 and is mentioned again in Genesis 6:3. In Genesis 6:4 the word Giants or Gigantes
(English/Greek) is used. The word Giant or Gigantes (English/Greek) is primarily referring to YEARS. God NEVER mentions height in Genesis 6:3.
When translated into Greek as gigantez, gigantes, or 'giants in Genesis 6:4. That is how we get the English word Giants. The use of this Greek/English word Giants in CONTEXT is referring to Years, probably not height or stature, but the people of that day since they had such a longevity of life might have had a different physical stature. Genesis 5 has a genealogy list that tells of individuals that lived these enormous/Giant life spans. Genesis 5 is probably the "sons of God". The word Giants is just explaining the and how it used when explaining the "sons of God". Even Noah and others still lived a Giant and enormous life span after the flood. Life spans started to Shrink after the flood up until today.
The Preserved text line of the KJV does not say gigantes but nephilim, which means "fallen ones"in Genesis 6:4 and Numbers 13:33 .
very good
All of my information comes from God Himself. A prophet of God, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks: GOD'S ANGELS CANNOT AND DO NOT "FALL." And if you think angels can fall, "You do err, not knowing Scriptures nor the power of God." Furthermore, absolutely all intelligent beings in this Universe are the "sons of God, " be they from this planet or another. ("Is it not written in your law, 'I have said ye are gods'?" "I have said ye are gods and all of you are children of the Most High.") BUT MOST ARE UNAWARE OF THIS FACT. And when the Bible speaks of "the sons of God" it is simply referring to beings who have advanced far enough spiritually that they ARE fully aware of what they are. And the "sons of God" mating with the "daughters of men" were spiritually- advanced beings from elsewhere that were "backsliding," and mated with less spiritually-advanced Earth women. But know this: absolutely EVERYTHING is part of God's perfect plan, without exception. (I don't receive TH-cam comment notifications, but those who seek can easily find how to contact me.)
this quote is from Tom Rhodes reply to Peter A. post below...
"...then began men to call upon the Lord. "
This is after Adam, and Seth and Enos are born, and WHEN you accept the Spirit of the Lord God Jesus, to "call upon him", then you have become "sons of God".
"For the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14"
When God put enmity between Satan's seed, and Eves seed..... Genesis 3: 15...then....
...moving on to Genesis 4: 25.... "For God, SAID SHE(Eve).... hath appointed me another seed ~Seth~》Adam = son of God {St. Luke 3: 38} 》=Seths father = the testimony of Eve.... God hath giving me another seed of the Son of God = Adam.
Do you understand? ???
Then the sons of God took to them the daughters of men.
If you cannot understand Adam and his son, grandsons are "sons of God ", then you are the natural man that receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to you.
You are right O Davis. I have a video called Nephilim Debunked that explains much about Gen 6, and who the sons of God are and are not.
@Josh Jacob If I am wrong please show me where so that I might be corrected. I surely don't want to cause people to be misled. So help me if you can Josh. Please show me the error of my ways.
@Josh Jacob Oh Josh you say that this is what you believe and then go on to present your beliefs as facts. You continue to say that Angel's are the sons of God. Here is what God asks you. For unto which of the angels said God at any time, You are my son, this day have I begotten you? I will be to him a father and he shall be to me a son?
Josh you have been listening to too many deceivers, especially those who teach from the book of Enoch. The video I did gives you plenty of scripture dealing with who the sons of God are and clearly, the Word of God shows they are not demonic angels,
As far as giants go i just heard within the last 24 hrs that a reporter called someone a titan. He was called this because he was famous and well respected in his field, not because of his stature. This man was born to a man and woman, not an angel. There is much more I could say but there is enough said in the video. What I will say is STOP LISTENING TO THESE FALSE TEACHERS that keep pushing the book of Enoch or Jashur they are leading you astray. Just pray and study the Bible.
@Josh Jacob It is apparent that you have not seen my video Nephilim Debunked. In it you will find the true interpretation of Genesis 6. As far as numbers go 10 of the 12 spies were afraid and lied. Numbers 14:36, And the men, which Moses sent to search the land, who returned, and made all the congregation to murmur against him, by bringing up a slander upon the land.
Slander means, A malicious, false, defamatory statement or report.
the prophet ez1 then explain why they have found MANY giant bones sometimes up to 36 feet tall and the Smithsonian has been covering this up since the 1800’s?! Could it be a Luciferian fallen angel agenda after all 🤔? Clearly you’re “own” THEOLOGY seems to blind you!
You would use Adam's age to determine the time elapsed from creation to the fall.
Ussher.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Ussher?
James Ussher. The preeminent Bible chronologer who wrote the Annals of the World. Unbelievable.
Women to keep their heads covered because of the Angel's ( they were attracted to the long hair of women ) new testement, the book of enoch speaks of this.
You Do present an interesting possibility however.. when you mentioned.. Adam and Eve possible procreating in the garden before the fall... I had never thought of that...we all realize.. that God preserved for us to read.. what He deemed necessary in order for us to come to salvation.. so we definitely do not have a minute by minute or even a year by year event list.. of what occurred.....since creation...interesting thought...
@ 5:50 Not Genesis 38:6, Its Job 38:6 And "They" got that wrong too! No matter what you say to "They" : they will never believe, unless the Father opens their eyes to His truths.
Who were the Sons of God in the book of Job? Didn't the Bible say that Adam's sin was passed on to every one and that's why we die as he did? Didn't the Bible say that the only human son of God in the garden of Eden was the only one dismissed from it along with Eve? Isn't Jesus called God's only begotten Son? Didn't angels appear as men in Sodom and Gommorah?
Lot to discuss there.
Brother the text says that the giants were a result of the sons of god mingling with the daughters of MEN.. it does not say the sons of god were giants it says the offspring became giants. Jude clearly says that the angels went after strange flesh and gave themselves over to fornicating , making a comparison to that of sodom and Gomorrah. I don’t know exactly how the angels procreated on earth but that is what the Bible says loud and clear. This is where u get Greek mythology from and also the story of the anunnaki from ancient Sumerian that spoke about genetic engineering and pre dates the Bible. The book of giants found in the Dead Sea scrolls says all life was genetically corrupted. God destroyed ALL FLESH. Think about it.. And this is about to happen again they are already altering human dna with crispr technology plus the merging of Ai and humans
The sons of Seth were not sons of God, they were sons of Adam, made in Adam's image, not God's. The God image in man, and mankind's sonship relationship with God, was broken at the Fall of man. Also, the Hebrew phrase "the sons of God" is used in only two (2) other places outside Genesis 6 in the Old Testament (Job 1, and 2). In both those instances, the phrase refers to angels- including Satan, who is an Angel- standing before the Throne of God. It is simply incorrect Bible Exegesis to assign one meaning of that phrase in Genesis 6 (men), and a totally different meaning (angels) in Job 1 and 2. Finally, two different groups of HUMANS (the sons of Seth and the daughters of Cain's descendants) do NOT produce mutant, 10 foot tall, six fingered Giants! But such mutants would be produced by mixing the Alien seed of Fallen angels with the ovum of human women! Remember, Genesis says the sons of God (angels) took wives of ALL which they chose- meaning BOTH from the Sethite gene pool AND the Cain-ite women. Later in Genesis (chapter 18) the Lord came to Abraham with two (2) angels. They ALL looked like MEN, and they sat, ate, and talked with Abraham quite naturally. Assumedly, Fallen angels would have the SAME ability to assume human characteristics and apoearance, even to genitals and bodily functions. Hebrews 13 says, "Be not forgetful to entertain strangers, for some in so doing have entertained ANGELS UNAWARES."
A controversial topic for sure! I’ve tried to lay out fairly and objectively the major Scriptural views. God bless!
Amen, that provoked me to study more. May the Lord richly bless,
Brian.
Amen
Job 38:6 & 7 explaining the "sons of God"
The "sons of God" have never been angels. In the OT how man presented themselves before God is with burnt offerings. Seth and other patriarchs probably presented burnt offerings to God. Burnt offerings dealt with sin, was a form of worship and was the relationship between God and man.
Job 38:7 “When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
-Morning stars are referring the heavens and the Celestial, meaning what God created in the heavens.
-sons of God refer to man or to say God's Terrestrial creation on the earth.
This verse shows 2 groups in 2 locations. Heavenly realm and those on the earth.
Also in Job 38:6 they sang and shouted because the cornerstone was laid. The cornerstone is Jesus. It is a reference of Jesus.
John 1:1-5 " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
Jesus existed before creation and existed in the beginning like John chapter 1 says.
Job 38:6 "what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,"
A person needs to apply the preceding verse, Jesus is the cornerstone.
Job 38:7 is in response to the cornerstone which was laid. Since the cornerstone is laid it has to deal with eternity, not just the beginning of creation, even though Jesus was present when creation begin. A person can say it deals with past, present, and future. Time is wrapped up in Eternity. Basically this deals with all of eternity for all of the ages.
Most people just focus on Job 38:1-5, and IGNORE Job 38:6
The morning stars refers to the heavenly, probably angels in Job 38:7, sons of God refer to those on the earth in Job 38:7. The reason the heavenly sang and those on the earth shouted for joy is in reference to the Cornerstone (Jesus) and His Eternal Presence.
Shouting for joy in the Bible usually refers to man.
Leviticus 9:24 (NKJV) and fire came out from before the Lord and consumed the burnt offering and the fat on the altar. When all the people saw it, they shouted and fell on their faces.
Leviticus 9:24 (NIV) Fire came out from the presence of the Lord and consumed the burnt offering and the fat portions on the altar. And when all the people saw it, they shouted for joy and fell facedown.
The NIV uses "shouted for Joy", the sons of God presented burnt offerings.
More verse about Shouting for Joy and Rejoicing Always refers to MAN.
Philippians 4:4 Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice!
Psalms 51:12 David cried unto the Lord, "Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit."
When a person reads the OT, the animal sacrifices that were presented is just a foreshadowing of who and what is to come. The who is Jesus and the what is His Living sacrifice. Jesus was a Living sacrifice on the cross for sin, no different than the animal sacrifices presented before YHWH were sacrifices for sin. Jesus is now the New Covenant, no need for animal sacrifices for sin. We all should shout for Joy for righteousness and salvation that only God can provide.
You are assuming that the angles procreated naturally. The Bible says in the times of Noah so shall be in the coming of the Son of Man. If we look today scientists are talking about producing test-tube babies, having gay couples use their DNA to produce children... In the times of Noah the Angles did the same with their own DNA, human DNA, and animal DNA. This was done NOT by sexual relations (tho their offspring could have I suppose) but by advanced knowledge. The book of Enoch quoted in Jude as well as 2Peter tell us they were angles, not man. The Bible is really clear about this topic, ANYONE who does not believe Genesis 6 was speaking of Angels should not be teaching others its that simple.
MISUNDERSTANDINGS OF BIBLICAL TEXSTS
Why is it so necessary for some to interpret something if they do not have the basic knowledge base? First of all, angelology begins with: In the beginning, God created heaven and earth. The earth was empty .... but for heaven it does not say !!! Job 30 clearly states that the sons of God sang as He made the earth! Yes Adam was created in the image and thus the son of God but we know Paul writes that everyone led by the Spirit of God is the sons of God !! so there are angels and there are various angels! Angel means servant of God but who can claim that angels are exclusively invisible beings ?? There are parallel actions of invisible beings who are in service here but there are also distant worlds primordial before the earth. This does not mean that they are invisible: They are invisible to us because of distance and weavers can appear here when God allows it either by teleportation, aircraft, or bilocation. These worlds are older and more advanced, but it is only the obscure center of Naum's Creation of Special Meaning. This does not mean that the earth is the Geocentrum of the universe, but it is the center of God's Naum, which has caused jealousy to such an extent that they have left their abode and have sinned. It also means the fall of fallen heavens. The sin of the angel is not the same because it has more weight on the principle: Who knows more or who is given more and is asked for more responsibility so that it is a fall in return as opposed to a small limited man who had grown up and outgrew angels for incarnation The only begotten Son of God. The punishment found an irreversible decline and permission to act and attack until the final judgment when there was an eternal and complete rejection in the image of a lake burning with sulfur forever. On the other hand, man is punished otherwise, and a general deluge is punishment for human sin for the constancy of obstinacy and not for polygyny! as some claim. Sin comes as a temptation from evil spirits, fallen heavens who are punished in a different way and in the service of temptation that God allows to tempt human faith. The decision of the punishment of all men is clearly stated, and heavens
If everyone came from Adam would the daughters be daughters of God as well
If that were the intent for the Sons, yes.
I don't read it that way, I take it literally from scripture, explained by scripture.
Good job, Brother! Rather, a great job! 🙂
I feel it WAS Hams wife but not that she was pregnant; her genetics were impure and carried Nephlim DNA. That is why the Giants of the later OT (Goliath and his brothers) seemed to be by locale and family.
I heard that once as well.. perhaps it was a genetic flaw in Hams wifes dna.. that would indeed explain the race of Giants.. surviving after the flood...
Everyone except Noah and his sons were genetically corrupted before the flood.
The sons needed to find wives as pure as possible. It is my theory that Ham was a rebellious disobedient son and may have helped the seed in DNA form make it through the flood.
I believe this is shown in the encounter between Noah and Ham after the flood where Noah announces that not Ham, but his son Canaan is cursed.
The Elohim were physical beings. Angels don’t have physical bodies! The anunnaki were all over the Old Testament! Jesus was Elohim taken by a craft at the end of Luke.
Angels also ate man's foods.
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Lionlike ( dogmen , werewolves) men of moab kjv.
Giants are of their own race
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They were already dwelling among the daughter's of the men created before Adam, WHEN THE SON'S OF GOD XAME INTO THE DAUGHTER'S OF THE MEN CREATED BEFORE ADAM.
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I will go look elsewhere,You don't seem to know the answer either. You jump all around.lol I keep waiting for an answer...8,19 i give up, no use keep doing the guessing game
Chuck Missler has a good one
"Like Rosemary's Baby or something?" Ha-ha
Well you know.
Angels are not the sons of God in the OT
God had the OT written in Hebrew, but the NT was written in Greek. For this to happen the Greek language had to become popular, how that happened is with the Greek Empire (332-146 BC) influenced the Jews (Hebrews). When the NT was written, it was written in Greek. Since the Greek empire influenced the Jews, so the Greeks language impacted how the NT was written. What also happened is Greek mythology crept in as well.
The angel view suffers the same way the Roman Catholic Church suffers with Mary. Both the angel view and the Roman Catholic Church are victims of mythology. The Greeks believed that Zeus one of their pagan gods came down to earth and impregnated Alcmene a mortal human women and she gave birth to Hercules, sounds like Genesis 6. Even way back to Christ pagan and mythological beliefs existed. The Jews always were effected with pagan beliefs and practices.
When Josephus a early Christian in the first Century is the person who is credited for the angel view, when it came to Genesis 6, a person can tell what his thinking was with who the sons of God are. Josephus was in ERROR and his thinking triggered a domino effect. No such thing as angels producing offspring with humans, it comes from Greek mythology and probably some Roman mythology. Look at Roman Catholicism with Mary, the doctrine of Mary in the RCC came out of Ephesus. The Council of Ephesus in AD 431 decreed that Mary is the Theotokos. Ephesus was known for a pagan god called Diana. In Roman Catholicism Mary is also linked to Isis, Artemis, Cybele, and Demeter. A person can see how paganism and Mythology affected Josephus and the council of Ephesus.
One thing is certain: the phrase "sons of God" does not refer to angels, that is, messengers. The phrase is a Hebrew idiom, and in the context of Genesis 6, it refers to humans, likely the descendants of Seth, or the "righteous." The nephillim is mistranslated "giants" (Greek GIGANTES) in the Septuagint. In Hebrew it means something like "mighty warriors, or men of renown." There was no "superhuman" race that resulted from the marriages of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men." Neither idiom refers to marital unions between freshly beings and spiritual beings.
Amen. Good info.
You are assuming that the angles procreated naturally. The Bible says in the times of Noah so shall be in the coming of the Son of Man. If we look today scientists are talking about producing test-tube babies, having gay couples use their DNA to produce children... In the times of Noah the Angles did the same with their own DNA, human DNA, and animal DNA. This was done NOT by sexual relations (tho their offspring could have I suppose) but by advanced knowledge. The book of Enoch quoted in Jude as well as 2Peter tell us they were angles, not man. We see the same name again in Job when it talks of the sons of God and satan came before God. The Bible is really clear about this topic, ANYONE who does not believe Genesis 6 was speaking of Angels should not be teaching others its that simple.
IT COULD BE THAT THE SONS OF GOD IN THE OLD TESTAMENT ARE NOT THE SAME SONS OF GOD IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THIS IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND LOT OF INFORMATION IN THE NEW TESTAMENT NOT SO MUCH IN THE OLD I WILL KEEP ON IN MY STUDY I GET THE THE SONS OF SETH ITS THE SON OF GOD IN JOB THATS WHERE I AM STUCK
I don't know but I WOULD' NT want to MEET THEM.
You are assuming that the angels procreated naturally. The Bible says in the times of Noah so shall be in the coming of the Son of Man. If we look today scientists are talking about producing test-tube babies, having gay couples use their DNA to produce children... In the times of Noah the Angles did the same with their own DNA, human DNA, and animal DNA. This was done NOT by sexual relations (tho their offspring could have I suppose) but by advanced knowledge. The book of Enoch quoted in Jude as well as 2Peter tell us they were angles, not man. We see the same name again in Job when it talks of the sons of God and satan came before God. The Bible is really clear about this topic, ANYONE who does not believe Genesis 6 was speaking of Angels should not be teaching others its that simple.
It’s not clear to many. If angels are spirits, Hebrews 1, where do they get dna from?
Cain was the seed of Satan. That’s why Eve said God gave her another son for Abel.
Yes, Fallen angels. The Jewish bible Translation states "the divine beings". By the Way, I enjoy your reviews very much Pastor 👍👍
Thanks!
There was no offspring in the Garden of Eden.
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Thank God it's not a salvation issue, lol. We'll find all that out when we get there. I'll say, though...I can't see Adam and Eve having children before their fall because they were so innocent that they didn't even know they were naked, and only after they ate the fruit were their eyes opened to know that.
And also Genesis shows the sin and punishment of only Adam, Eve and the serpent, and they were driven out of the garden. I'd be asking myself how and why were their pre-sin children driven out? God bless, just some thoughts.
I know, lots to discuss there.
The Niphlims were fallen angels, it was time that the angels were able to transform themselves into men, therefore, they were able to reproduce in their kind. If you were able to transform yourself into men, wouldn't you have men's reproduction organs and capacity to reproduce in their kind? God didn't even put his trust in his own angels. Once a Man makes love to a woman, this would mean that woman is his wife, because they have become one, they didn't need a priest to marry them, once a Man got to know the woman sexually, this would be the same as marriage in God's eyes.
I’ve heard several sides of the discussion. I would say everything producing after its own kind is one of the best arguments I’ve heard against them being angels. God Bless!
hopefully no one goes to this guys church as he is so unsure of the bible he should not be a shepherd of men.
On the foundation’s I’m rock solid, 100% sure. On these peripheral issues, we can discuss those. God bless!
The heavenly sons of God noticed the daughters of men, and some forsook their own proper dwelling place, Jude 6 when they put flesh upon themselves, and took human wives for themselves. Genesis 6: 4 The children of these unions were giant men, the Nephilim. At the time of Noah's flood the Nephilim all died. But the angels that were their fathers put off their flesh, and became the demons. The demons still exist, but they are no longer permitted to do this, even though its not written anywhere. But the demons influence men and women, and they continue to be wicked. When Satan is thrown into the abyss Revelation 20: 1-3 the demons will also be thrown in. When Satan, Gog of Magog is executed Revelation 20: 10 the demons will be executed. The 'Gog' that is buried in Ezekiel 39: 11 is the leader of the warring armies, 'the chieften of Meshech and Tubal.' Ezekiel 38: 2. This one is the visible leader of the warring armies 'like clouds to cover the land', Ezekiel 38: 16 but the real leader is Satan the Devil, invisible to the eyes of men. [Revelation 20: 1-10]
The position that angels ("sons of God") married female humans ("daughters of men") and produced a super race tends to be a widely accepted view; probably due to Josephus, the famous Jewish historian, who popularised this position in his writings. Of course, there are serious problems that undermine that view. One problem is, "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven" (Matt. 22:30). Since angels are genderles kis, the "sons of God" could not have been angels (although some link Genesis 6 with Jude 6-8).
A more plausible and scripturally consistent explanation would be that "sons of God" refers to a godly race of people who intermarried with a race not so godly. Many believe the "sons of God" are from the descendants of Seth (Gen. 4: 25-26 & Ch. 5). In contrast, the "daughters of men" would be the pagan descendants of Cain (Gen. 4:16-24). But why this would result in giants is not clear because they would only become so if God ( who knits us in the womb - Psalm 139:13) wanted such offspring. Maybe the term giant is hyperbole for unnusually tall people (such as the Dutch are today where the average height is almost 6') which would have seemed all the more fearsome if they were also warriors of reknown.
But it really doesn't matter compared to the Oneness heresy.
Oneness heresy? Ot is the faith once delivered my friend.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Well, to start with the apostles never taught that Jesus is the one name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and so should perform all religious activities in that one name. On that point alone you do not teach that which was once and for all delivered.
I think I saw Jesus once and he was a literal giant in physical form. His robes were vibrant of blue and pink
**SON'S OF GOD** = ADAM AND SETH, ON = LUKE 3 38
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NOT FALLEN ANGELS
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FALLEN ANGELS WENT DIRECTLY TO HELL
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ADAM AND EVE WERE NEVER told= blessed to multiply ✖ the earth.
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Where in the wedding 💑 SCRIPTURES, does God give them the blessing to multiply ✖?
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But there was a curse to multiply ✖
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Genesis 1?
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WHEN IT WAS SAID, " THEREFORE a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave onto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
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WHERE IS THE BLESSING TO MULTIPLY ✖ THE EARTH?
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A preacher, playing the ignorance card, is a minister of wickedness.
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@@oscardavis7796 Genesis 1:26-30.
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Your a fake
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That blessing to multiply the earth 🌎, was given to the men/women, created BEFORE ADAM AND EVE.
BEFORE THE DAY OF REST.
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HERDSMAN III OLD III
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa
I asked specifically for the blessing, Genesis 2:24... on.?????
Where is the blessing, this very moment that this is spoken = One flesh.
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There's a detailed description of Eves cursed "to multiply ✖ IN GENESIS 3:
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Where's the blessing in this story at the time of, " leaving FATHER and MOTHER and being *ONE FLESH*???
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Son's of God in Job = ADAM AND SETH, ON.... = AFTER THE FLOOD = ADAM AND SETH, ON = PRE~FLOOD, have become ANGELIC.
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COMMON SENSE!!!!
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WAKE UP PEOPLE
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Job 38. God asks Job where he was when the foundations of the earth were laid, when the morning stars sang together, and when all the sons of God [angels] shouted for joy
They didn't. Read the book of enoch.
I have. I’ve done multiple videos why I think it is not true.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa oh. I read it too. I think it explains alot. It makes sense to me that God would flood the earth is the angels told the ppl of the earth truths of the heavens. But that's just my opinion. Ty for the response. Have a blessed day
@@Warfarenuggetz You as well!
Brother wish I could speak with you. Please look back into this again. I am a wiz in this topic I only use scripture I don't use I think but if you speak with me I talk mostly by book chapter verse so it's often viewed as a new language but definitely not because it's the bible. I'm 26 and never read any other book till after I read the Bible. I test all spirits with scripture. FYI do math 120 year till flood and the average life is always an average of 70 years.
How were you saved?
1 Thes. 4: 13. Those who sleep are dead. Soul dead. 1 thes 5:10.
the dead are soul dead. Eze. 18: 4 and 20.
1 Cor. 15: 11- 15. The dead who are in their graves will be raised from their graves at the resurrection on the last day.
John 6: 39, 40, 44, 53 and 54. The LAST day is the LAST day of this corruptible creation. 7,000 years from creation.
Rev. 20: 7- 15 is the LAST day of this corruptible creation.
Rev. 20: 7- 15 is a 24 hour period of time. The LAST 24 hour period of time. Time, Space and Matter will be put out of existence.
In Gen. 1: 1 Yahweh created corruptible : Time , Space and Matter.
the first day of this corruptible creation.
Rev. 20: 7- 15 Yahweh will put out of existence corruptible Time , Space and Matter.. The LAST day of this corruptible creation.
BEFORE Gen . 1 : 1. There was the Everlasting incorruptible Kingdom of Yahweh.
AFTER Rev. 20: 7- 15 the Everlasting incorruptible Kingdom of Yahweh will Continue.
2 Cor. chapter 5. tells Us about our heavenly incorruptible flesh and blood bodies we will receive in the resurrection.
Just like Yahshua received back his incorruptible flesh and blood body at His resurrection.
We must put off this corruptible flesh and blood body and put on Our incorruptible flesh and blood body and put off mortality and put on Immortality. 1 Cor. 15: 53 and 54.
Just Like Yahshua did.
Yahshua is Yahweh's SON. Matt. 3: 17.
Yahshua and His Brothers were always with Yahweh in the Spirit from Everlasting.
At creation Yahweh created incorruptible flesh and blood bodies for His SONS.
Job. 38: 7. Job. 1: 7. Job 2: 1. Gen. 6: 1- 4.
Yahshua was put in this world in His incorruptible flesh and blood body and walked this earth preaching the gospel of the coming kingdom of Yahweh from the beginning for 3,600 years. Gen. 1: 3.
400 years before the first coming Yahshua was taken back to heaven to wait for the time for Him to come to this earth in a corruptible flesh and blood body.
Born of the blood of woman.
Mary gave Him His 23 pairs of female X chromosomes.
Yahweh gave Him His 23 pairs of MALE Y chromosomes.
Yahshua walked this earth in His corruptible flesh and blood body for 33 and a half years according to Moses law.
Yahshua fulfilled Moses law perfectly.
He came on the Appointed day and died on the Appointed Day according to Moses law.
Yahshua was born on the 14Th day Tishri at 3PM and died on the 14Th day of Nissan at 3PM. So says Yahweh.
Yahshua died on the 14Th day of the first month and was RAISED from the second death at 6AM on the 1ST day of the week.
Yahweh was in the second death for 39 hours according to Moses law.
Absolute perfection from a perfect God.
Yahweh RAISED his SON from the second death and gave Him His incorruptible flesh and blood body back and took His SON back to the 3RD heaven. Rom. 10: 9.
Acts 3: 21. Yahweh said to His SON:" Sit at My right hand until I make Youe enemies Your footstool."
Yahweh is making a kingdom for His SON to sit on David's throne in the NEW Jerusalem and rule the world as King of Kings for the thousand years. Rev. 20: 4- 6.
Rev. 21: 9- 10. Yahshua will bring His BRIDE with Him at His second coming as the Home for the SAINTS during His thousand year reign on the earth made NEW .
Rev. 5: 10. Rev. 2: 26 and 27. the Saints will reign with Yahshua on the earth commencing at the second coming.
Matt. 5: 5. The Meek will inherit the earth made NEW at the second coming for the thousand year reign of Yahweh's messiah as King of Kings. and lord of lords.
Zeck 14: 4- 5. the great valley is the resting place for Yahshua's BRIDE as the HOME for the Saints during his thousand year reign on the earth made NEW.
Isa. 2: 3- 4. Isa. 11: 6- 9. Isa. 66: 22- 23. Micah 4: 2- 3. These scriptures will be fulfilled during Yahshua's thousand year reign on the earth made NEW.
Zeck. 14: 9. And Yahweh will be King over all the earth during His SONS thousand year reign on the earth made NEW.
Zeck. 14: 16. the nations are still on the earth made NEW for the thousand years and will come to the NEW Jerusalem to celebrate the feast of Tabernacles year by year for the thousand years.
2 Peter 3: 10- 13. verse 10. The second coming. Verses 11 and 12 Yahweh burns the UNIVERSE. Verse 13 Yahweh makes a NEW Heaven(S) and a NEW earth for the thousand year reign of His SON as king of kings.
Acts 3: 21. Yahshua must remain in heaven until the time to restore all things for His thousand year reign on the earth made NEW as King of Kings. King of 144,000 Kings. Rev. 12; 1- 5. Rev. 14: 1.
1 Thes. 4; 15- 17. Is the fulfillment of Tabernacles.
Yahshua brings His BRIDE with Him at the second coming.
Rev. 21: 9- 10. Yahshua's BRIDE flies around the earth while the Angels pick up the SAINTS and take them up into the AIR the enter the gates to the NEW Jerusalem. Rev. 22: 14.
This is the supper in the sky.
Rev. chapters 21 and 22 commence at the second coming and are fulfilled on the LAST day. Rev. 20: 7- 15.
On the day of Yahweh , there will be 3 groups of people.
1. The sinners. The sinners will fall to the ground dead destroyed by the brightness of His coming.
2. The ungodly. the ungodly are blinded to Yahshua's GLORY and wonder what is happening. 3.
The SAINTS will lift up their eyes to heaven and raise HOLY HANDS and say:" This is Our God, We have waited for Him, He has come to save Us."
Eye has not seen, Nor ear heard , nor entered the heart of man the things Yahweh has planned for those who LOVE Him. 1 Cor. 2: 9.
IF your eye has seen it: It is not in Yahweh's incorruptible everlasting Kingdom. IF your ear has heard it: It is not in Yahweh's Everlasting incorruptible Kingdom. IF you can imagine it: It is NOT in Yahweh's Everlasting incorruptible Kingdom.
Look not to the things that are seen, These things are for those who have no hope.
Look for the things that are NOT seen. FAITH.
SEE I have come to you in the Spirit of Elijah. I have declared to you my Fathers NAME. Yahweh.
SEE I have preached to you the gospel of the coming Kingdom.
What i say to one I say to all: Without HOLINESS, No one will see Yahweh. Heb. 12: 14.
Until these things come to pass may I say to all who read these things:" Remember: LOVE is not LOVE until you give it away."
Praise Yahweh for His WORD.
1 John 4: 7- 8.
may Yahweh bless you with all the understanding and Holiness you need to stand in that day before the SON of MAN.
Bless you.
Thank you for this video,after some study I accepted the theory that the sons of God were Sethites who compromised their faith.I also believed that Noah is a giant in height considering the fact that lived until 950 years and he had sons who like him were giants too in height.
Lol. Um no
The Bible tells us over and over that Cain was the seed of Satan. So knowing this and understanding that Satan was and angel and when angels have children with human women the offspring are not of normal size. Then with this knowledge just maybe Cain was much larger than Able and God of course knew his father was not Adam and did not except Cain's offering. God knew Ables heart and knew Cain was proud and had disobied the rules of offering. Cain thought his offering was better than Ables but God wanted a blood offering. In a jealous act of anger he killed his brother. Later offspring of Cain were ordered to be killed by God. They all had the heart of Satan. They had evil believes. So God wanted them gone so they could not corrupt the other people that obeyed God. I think Cain was marked because he was half fallen angel and half man. I also believe angels are not small like we are. I think they built the megalithic structures on this planet. We have been lied to for a very long time. But now skeleton remains are found everywhere and the story is now told. The Bible now makes perfect sense. There were Giants in the Earth in those days. Well now we know the Giants began with Satan, in the garden. Cain was sent away to live away from the other people. But maybe the good people began to find the people of Cain and we're being corrupted by the people of Cain. So to keep all the people of God from falling into sin God had Cain's people wiped out. But then fallen angel began to have more and more children with women and knowing how Satan wants to distroy God's creation Satan's offspring are so sinfilled God had to drown all who lived on Earth except Noah and his small family. So sad for God to have His world ruined by a black heart like Satan ,His own creation. A Fallen Angel.
Where does it say Satan was a fallen Angel
The " SIMPLICITY " to the answer, every one else, makes so ***CONVOLUTED ***
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Adam *** Son of God *** (Luke 3: 38) of large stature
No ordinary man of flesh.
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Reptile ( Serpent ruler) *Satan* FALLEN STAR * MORNING STAR *
MASTER OF LIES, DECEPTION
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(Cain, was a *fallen one* from.... A son of God = Adam )
Took to himself, a wife, from the "daughter's of men".
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(Let " US MAKE" 》》》GOD... SPEAKING TO.... The "host of heaven(s) ***Aliens***
MAN, in ***OUR*** image.)
Each of the "HOST" of the heavens, having a different appearance.
On EARTH, that has JUST BEEN FORMED ! ! !
*** And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the work of thine hands: ***
Hebrews 1: 10
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Turned to flight, the armies of the aliens.
Hebrews 11: 34
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As the host of heaven cannot be numbered. ..
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Heremiah 33 : 22
The gods have come down in the form of ***men*** = MALES = In ... ***Our IMAGE***) Acts 14: 11
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LOCATION
***EARTH***
"... and He blessed them.... TO MULTIPLY !"
***WHERE IS THE CURSE ? ? ? ***
***WHERE IS the GARDEN of EDEN ???
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GOD ALONE ... IN HIS IMAGE. .. OF GREAT STATURE, created Adam = Son of God *** Luke 3: 38 ***
To be Gods *** personal gardener ***
(Genesis 2: 15 )
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Then God... Created ANIMALS, to keep Adam company
( Genesis 2: 19) ***NO FISH ***
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THEN GOD created Eve
(Genesis 2: 22 )
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Genesis 2: 23
*** Where is the BLESSING ? ? ? ***
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Genesis 3: 16
*** Where is the BLESSING ? ? ? ***
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After Cain * fallen one* the fallen son, of a, " a son of God " = ADAM, has taken him a wife, from a daughter of, " the daughters of men, and has had a son, built a city....
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He took also out of the city an Eunuch, which had charge of the men of war..(= ***GIANTS ***)
Jeremiah 52: 25
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Adam *** Son of God ***, and Eve have Seth = a son, of a "Son of God " (Luke 3: 38) ... and so on, and so on....
Take wives from the same " daughters of men" 《《《 BLESSED TO MULTPLY
that Cain 》》》 ( *** Who's mother (Eve) wasn't blessed>>when Cain was born*** ) took his wife from.
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From Seth.... on.... " Son's of GOD " BLESSED. ...
TAKE to themselves, " daughters of men".
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Giants are being born
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Giants survived the flood, because (2) were on the ark, with Noah
***And of ***EVERY LIVING THING*** OF ( ***ALL*** FLESH ) Genesis 6: 19
*** and of the unclean *** by (2) two, the male, and ***HIS*** female.
(Genesis 7: 2)
***... two of ***ALL*** ALL*** ALL ***flesh, wherein is the *** BREATH OF LIFE ***
(Genesis 7: 15)
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ok so you don't know either?
Haha! I’ve got a suspicion but I’m still studying it.
He who is wise admits when he doesn't know. He who is presumptuous knows everything. A prophet of God, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks: GOD'S ANGELS CANNOT AND DO NOT "FALL." And if you think angels can fall, "You do err, not knowing Scriptures nor the power of God." Furthermore, absolutely all intelligent beings in this Universe are the "sons of God, " be they from this planet or another. ("Is it not written in your law, 'I have said ye are gods'?" "I have said ye are gods and all of you are children of the Most High.") BUT MOST ARE UNAWARE OF THIS FACT. And when the Bible speaks of "the sons of God" it is simply referring to beings who have advanced far enough spiritually that they ARE fully aware of what they are. And the "sons of God" mating with the "daughters of men" were spiritually- advanced beings from elsewhere that were "backsliding," and mated with less spiritually-advanced Earth women. But know this: absolutely EVERYTHING is part of God's perfect plan, without exception. (I don't receive TH-cam comment notifications, but those who seek can easily find how to contact me.)
Definitely a confused individual.. need to remove those books off your table and let God guide you..
Study to show yourself approved. God bless!
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Lol.. I've spent hundreds of hours studying. I've studied this 1995, when I was first introduced to the topic. Lukewarm church age, blind leading the blind
So according to you, what's the truth about this topic?