Read this part of Revelation for the first time last night. In searching this morning, it took a few searches to find someone (you) who specifically addresses it. Thank you!
I agree with your understanding of these Scriptures because it is the interpretation I am left with when reading it in its entirety. I think sometimes we focus on a word, such as "Angels", and we try to make the word mean what our ideas of what an "Angel" is and so changes the meaning of the passages, rather than just letting it flow to let the Bible just interpret itself. As many so do with the word "Hell". I couldn't find God addressing "literal" angels in this section of the Book because He is warning them of the things that are (right) and wrong. We don't have literal angels receiving these instructions and literally teaching in our churches. I also believe the instructions were to be given to church leaders to address with the members of that particular church. If my understanding of it is wrong, I trust Yahushua will correct me. Just as He always does. So far, He leaves me with this understanding and to me, there's no confusion. It's actually very simple to me to understand. Thank you for breaking it down the way you did for those out here who are conflicted on this topic. God Bless you brother!
Thanks for attempting to explain this. I think most of us sense something is up in this passage and needs figuring out and these are some good point to possibly explain it’s meaning.
I haven't heard that theory before. The thing I appreciate most about your teaching videos is that you usually give me another avenue to think about. Again, thank you for taking the time to make these.
-The Bible teaches for churches to have multiple elders (effectively the same thing as a pastor). -I’m not aware of a scripture that teaches such a thing as a lead pastor. -If angels in Rev 2 and 3 are pastors, it would contradict the scripture’s teaching elsewhere about multiple elders. -The angels are defined as stars in Rev 1 (if I recall), indicating spiritual beings....and I take this literally. -I do see that it appears that “thou” appears to be in reference to an angel. -However, the letters go on to explain that these things are what the Spirit saith unto the churches. -John writes to the angels because these are letters he delivers to spiritual angels who will deliver them to the churches.
Who is the true yokefellow of Philippians 4? and it is impossible, as I say in the video, for the angels to do what is said of them, being spiritual angels. you need to Scripturally reasses me friend. God bless you!
New Life Of Albany Ga. It seems you have the right view of yokefellow. -I understand the tendency to see the “thy” as referring to an angel, and if that truly is the case, I would concede we’re talking about a human being. -I’m proposing that the angels of the seven churches are disconnected from the first mention of “thy” said in each letter. -My view allows us to better keep angels as spiritual beings (and Rev 1 already set the context for them being so). -Since John is in exile, how is the book of Revelation going to be delivered to the churches? That’s really easy for me because spiritual angels will do that! -My view recognizes that the scripture will sometimes say “thy” and “thou” when talking about a group of people...and I contend this is the case because the letters clarify toward the end that what is written is said by the Spirit to the churches (and some of the letters use plural language like “some of you”). -So I see far more good reasons for my position than anything else.
@@ProjectCould AND I would like to hear your view on the time frame of Rev 1:1 and specifically the word soon...funny thing how all inspired biblical writers and even Jesus thought He would return in some of their lifetimes. Rev 1:1 God sends the revelation of Jesus Christ to Him for His servants for things that must SOON take place, then we just say "No it didn't" I'm not buying it, I think Jesus returned all ready.
I have no problem in taking the angels mentioned in the letters as actual heavenly beings. Considering how numerous, important and active angels are in Revelation we shouldn’t be surprised. In Daniel we get the idea that nations have angels, in the gospels Jesus says that children have angels, in Acts Peter is knocking at the door when he is supposed to be in prison and those inside say it can’t be him it must be his angel. I I believe that if we could see the amount of angelic activity going n around us we would be astonished. Therefore, I have no problem in understanding the angels mentioned in the letters as actual angelic beings. Within the con
the problem with your view is that angels are not responsible for what is going on in the church, the nation or individual. Here the Lord adresses the one who is responsible and that is the leader of the church ( the pastor etc ). He is the one who should correct the worng things in the church. The angel can't do that.
@@joznew1 Wow I guess you know!!!! Wow you know that angels aren't responsible for what is going on in the churches BUT they can be responsible for lots of other things you FORGOT you were told in the original comment... They can be over nations but not a church...you should apologize for knowing everything...
@@jesuslovesyouforalleternit8064 they can have the job to protect a nation if God order them to do so, but are they held responsible for the sins and false teachings of the nation?
Would it be possible for you to make a video on the differences between Methodist and apostolic Pentecostal ! Can’t find any good comparison video on this topic
Rev 9:1 and the fifth angel sounded and I saw a STAR fall from heaven unto the earth and to HIM was given the key of the bottomless pit v2 and He opened the bottomless pit. So was it a messenger that fell to earth? A pastor? Or Stars=angels. All angels are ministering spirits. Plain reading of scripture defined by scripture. Also, why can’t the 7 churches be 1. 7 actual churches that were in johns time. 2. A representation of church types or ages. And 3. Churches right now.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Ty for responding. I like most of your videos but disagree with you on this one. Would like to know who your pastor friend is in Troy, mi. I’m from around there. God bless
Interesting observations, I would like to know your personal opinion who is the rider on the white horse in Rev.6 , and who are the the Two Witnesses in Rev.11. Be vigilant and intelligent. Good luck to you.
I believe the white horse is the anti christ. Many believe the seals have already opened. I do not. I think the 2 witnesses could be Elijah and Moses or someone in the spirit of those 2. For ex John the Baptist.
Agree they are 7 human people or prophets. Comparing to the book of Enoch as well as the end of The revelation. They will pour out God's wrath. Historical God's wrath is typically fulfilled through prophets. Also, it would make sense as John the Baptist proceeded Christ's first coming, 7 would proceed His second coming.
7 churches represent the 7 nations. Gods protecting her and her nation Australia, church of Philadelphia. The Bride of Christ God’s Daughter is the female savior here to save humanity. DaVinci painted her The Mona Lisa. Calculate this year 2022 minus the year the 1st Mona Lisa died 1542, 2022-1542=480 years till the 2nd Mona Lisa the bride of Christ. This is the same amount of time from Exodus to the rebuild of the temple.
I AGREE & THANK YOU FOR MAKING IT SO SO EASY TO UNDERSTAND,GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER-IN-CHRIST 💙
Read this part of Revelation for the first time last night. In searching this morning, it took a few searches to find someone (you) who specifically addresses it. Thank you!
I agree with your understanding of these Scriptures because it is the interpretation I am left with when reading it in its entirety. I think sometimes we focus on a word, such as "Angels", and we try to make the word mean what our ideas of what an "Angel" is and so changes the meaning of the passages, rather than just letting it flow to let the Bible just interpret itself. As many so do with the word "Hell". I couldn't find God addressing "literal" angels in this section of the Book because He is warning them of the things that are (right) and wrong. We don't have literal angels receiving these instructions and literally teaching in our churches. I also believe the instructions were to be given to church leaders to address with the members of that particular church. If my understanding of it is wrong, I trust Yahushua will correct me. Just as He always does. So far, He leaves me with this understanding and to me, there's no confusion. It's actually very simple to me to understand. Thank you for breaking it down the way you did for those out here who are conflicted on this topic. God Bless you brother!
Thanks for attempting to explain this. I think most of us sense something is up in this passage and needs figuring out and these are some good point to possibly explain it’s meaning.
I personally think you nailed it on this one.
I haven't heard that theory before. The thing I appreciate most about your teaching videos is that you usually give me another avenue to think about. Again, thank you for taking the time to make these.
You are very welcome
Man we went last year and the car cut off by itself and the lights cut off . Never again will I go . I don’t even play like that
Amen 🙏
If they were celestial beings, there would be no need for Jesus to ask john to deliver them a message. Isnt that right?
Quite possibly, yes.
-The Bible teaches for churches to have multiple elders (effectively the same thing as a pastor).
-I’m not aware of a scripture that teaches such a thing as a lead pastor.
-If angels in Rev 2 and 3 are pastors, it would contradict the scripture’s teaching elsewhere about multiple elders.
-The angels are defined as stars in Rev 1 (if I recall), indicating spiritual beings....and I take this literally.
-I do see that it appears that “thou” appears to be in reference to an angel.
-However, the letters go on to explain that these things are what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
-John writes to the angels because these are letters he delivers to spiritual angels who will deliver them to the churches.
Who is the true yokefellow of Philippians 4?
and it is impossible, as I say in the video, for the angels to do what is said of them, being spiritual angels.
you need to Scripturally reasses me friend. God bless you!
New Life Of Albany Ga. It seems you have the right view of yokefellow.
-I understand the tendency to see the “thy” as referring to an angel, and if that truly is the case, I would concede we’re talking about a human being.
-I’m proposing that the angels of the seven churches are disconnected from the first mention of “thy” said in each letter.
-My view allows us to better keep angels as spiritual beings (and Rev 1 already set the context for them being so).
-Since John is in exile, how is the book of Revelation going to be delivered to the churches? That’s really easy for me because spiritual angels will do that!
-My view recognizes that the scripture will sometimes say “thy” and “thou” when talking about a group of people...and I contend this is the case because the letters clarify toward the end that what is written is said by the Spirit to the churches (and some of the letters use plural language like “some of you”).
-So I see far more good reasons for my position than anything else.
@@ProjectCould And no response...
@@ProjectCould AND I would like to hear your view on the time frame of Rev 1:1 and specifically the word soon...funny thing how all inspired biblical writers and even Jesus thought He would return in some of their lifetimes.
Rev 1:1 God sends the revelation of Jesus Christ to Him for His servants for things that must SOON take place, then we just say "No it didn't" I'm not buying it, I think Jesus returned all ready.
@@jesuslovesyouforalleternit8064 If Jesus already came the second time, then you have no hope of being raised from the dead.
I have no problem in taking the angels mentioned in the letters as actual heavenly beings. Considering how numerous, important and active angels are in Revelation we shouldn’t be surprised. In Daniel we get the idea that nations have angels, in the gospels Jesus says that children have angels, in Acts Peter is knocking at the door when he is supposed to be in prison and those inside say it can’t be him it must be his angel. I I believe that if we could see the amount of angelic activity going n around us we would be astonished. Therefore, I have no problem in understanding the angels mentioned in the letters as actual angelic beings. Within the con
the problem with your view is that angels are not responsible for what is going on in the church, the nation or individual. Here the Lord adresses the one who is responsible and that is the leader of the church ( the pastor etc ). He is the one who should correct the worng things in the church. The angel can't do that.
@@joznew1 Wow I guess you know!!!! Wow you know that angels aren't responsible for what is going on in the churches BUT they can be responsible for lots of other things you FORGOT you were told in the original comment... They can be over nations but not a church...you should apologize for knowing everything...
@@jesuslovesyouforalleternit8064 they can have the job to protect a nation if God order them to do so, but are they held responsible for the sins and false teachings of the nation?
@@joznew1 I don't know for sure they are or aren't held responsible but you seemed to say they aren't.
Would it be possible for you to make a video on the differences between Methodist and apostolic Pentecostal ! Can’t find any good comparison video on this topic
I’ll try
Rev 9:1 and the fifth angel sounded and I saw a STAR fall from heaven unto the earth and to HIM was given the key of the bottomless pit v2 and He opened the bottomless pit. So was it a messenger that fell to earth? A pastor? Or Stars=angels. All angels are ministering spirits. Plain reading of scripture defined by scripture. Also, why can’t the 7 churches be 1. 7 actual churches that were in johns time. 2. A representation of church types or ages. And 3. Churches right now.
It can mean different things in different Passages. Context is key.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Ty for responding. I like most of your videos but disagree with you on this one. Would like to know who your pastor friend is in Troy, mi. I’m from around there. God bless
@@kathymarie9933 It was FR Reed. Long since dead, as is his son.
Interesting observations, I would like to know your personal opinion who is the rider on the white horse in Rev.6 , and who are the the Two Witnesses in Rev.11. Be vigilant and intelligent. Good luck to you.
I believe the white horse is the anti christ. Many believe the seals have already opened. I do not. I think the 2 witnesses could be Elijah and Moses or someone in the spirit of those 2. For ex John the Baptist.
Agree they are 7 human people or prophets. Comparing to the book of Enoch as well as the end of The revelation. They will pour out God's wrath. Historical God's wrath is typically fulfilled through prophets. Also, it would make sense as John the Baptist proceeded Christ's first coming, 7 would proceed His second coming.
Swell
Paul was the first angel
7 churches represent the 7 nations. Gods protecting her and her nation Australia, church of Philadelphia. The Bride of Christ God’s Daughter is the female savior here to save humanity. DaVinci painted her The Mona Lisa. Calculate this year 2022 minus the year the 1st Mona Lisa died 1542, 2022-1542=480 years till the 2nd Mona Lisa the bride of Christ. This is the same amount of time from Exodus to the rebuild of the temple.