What is more likely is that some upstart young beardling has in fact tried to invent some newfangled contraption that is comparable to a machine gun but the longbeards are going to spend the next 100 years grumbling about it before it ever sees use.
There is one gyrocopter with a machine gun. The engineer who made it was exiled but then returned to the hold of Zhufbar. It is his personal gyrocopter with steam machine guns, and they don't misfire like the shaven ones. His name is Rimbal Wanazaki, and is a little bit crazy due to his love of drinking engine oil used in his gyrocopter.
There's also the very relevant fact that Slayers, unlike literally everything in the Dwarf Army, have NO ARMOR AT ALL. This means that ranged weapons absolutely destroy them.
CantusTropus It is dwarfs we're talking about, and they aren't really going to travel in open areas so good luck getting a good shot on the Guys before they cleave you in two
@@charlottewalnut3118 Yeah slings are actually a lot more deadly can people give them credit for. they used to make shaped bullets out of lead molds or carved stones. Shaping them so the rock would imbed itself inside of the target just like a bullet.
I look so much forward to playing the Dwarves in this game... they are my favorite race and should also fit perfectly with my personal playstyle. In any game that even allows such a thing, I tend to be a bit of a turtler and also tend to favour a backbone of solid defensive units backed up by massive ranged firepower. Mobility and clever hit-and-run tactics and other fanciful Elven concepts have never been my strength. Add to that the fact I am decidedly a quality-over-quantity type of person and typically enjoy drinking ale and scottish or irish whisky... Yeah, Dwarves!
+Jørgen A Kinda like the opposite of arch who is a skaven fan. Who likely favors quantity over quality and using hit and run with alot of flanking. I do wish they include skaven if only to see the war between dwarves and skaven.
Yeah, I too really hope for Skaven to be added, mainly so my Dwarves can fight them! Also Elves, especially High Elves... so many grudges that need settling with some Dwarf axe to Elf skull. I kind of expect an Elf-themed expansion to be the first they make, simply because, well, they're Elves, lots of people love Elves of various kinds, Ratmen not so much sadly. Skaven may well be more popular among Warhammer fans but obviously as a Total War title many if not most potential customers will not have much of a connection with the Warhammer lore, so making sure Humans, Orcs, Dwarves and Elves are all in the game as quickly as possible will probably be a priority I think, just to have the full spectrum of mainstream fantasy races.
I thought the "clattergun" that can be mounted on the Gyrobomber was a machinegun though? In such a case they have developed them, hehe. Probably the grumpy old bastards simply haven't been satisfied with any hand-held versions that the more rebellious members of the Engineering Guild have no doubt tried to introduce several times already. Early-technology machineguns would after all be inaccurate and unreliable compared to other weapons (as is certainly the case with the Ratling Gun) and that simply would not do for the Dwarves. An inaccurate weapon? Mmmm... maybe. But UNRELIABLE? Oh hell no, Dwarves won't even consider using something that hasn't held up flawlessly to anywhere from decades to centuries of thorough testing. I think it said in one of the recent Dwarf army books that they don't even consider taking a simple cannon into actual battle until it's been through a century or so of trials to rule out any chance of imperfection.
Ah, da stunties. Memories of my first chosen Warhammer Fantasy army. Either these Guys or the greenskins will be my first playthrough. Greenskins depend on whether I can paint my armor red, because we all know red wunz go faster
I like the fact that Longbeards let other Dwarves re-roll panic because the younglings are deathly determined to impress their elders and are really determined not to shame themselves.
I reallllly really hope they have karaks as multi tiered fights that take several turns and battles to take as it is a fortress underground and it just bleeds you army or armies where you wonder why you even attacked in the first place
hawkorxen Better be like that. Dwarves don't really hold much territory outside of the Karaks, so taking the Karaks out of action takes a huge amount of their population out. Also, look at how long it takes - they're STILL fighting over Karak Eight Peaks, and the Skaven took over most of that years ago.
knowing CA and what they've done in the past I highly doubt it. I'm guessing that their land will be their weakness they have strong and immobile fortresses gaurd in a smaller amount of land than say the empire. Personally I'm just glad they will probobly have the underground battles. Not sure how well that would work for like multi level stuff or tight spaces (that is what ironbreakers are designed for afterall) but I'm hoping they figure siege battles out
Oh arch, take your ratling gun unreliable trash somewhere else, the dwarf don't need machine guns. They invented something better. The Goblin Hewer. A machine gun that fires axes! All credit goes to the mad genius of Malakai Makaisson. oh and on the subject of machine guns, what are the repeating handguns then arch? Granted, if the ratling gun is a machine gun, these are assault rifles, but the point stands. Problem with the dwarfs is that both these things are still awaiting their moronic engineer guild aproval (while the humans are using the repeater guns to great effect, but still in small numbers due to limited production capability, something the dwarfs would not have an issue with if they decide to use them). Oh and dwarf still have attack helicopters. Skaven are still grounded.
93Avenger93 93Avenger93 There is a very significant difference between what is essentially a Gatling gun on warpstone steroids, and a muzzle-loaded handgun that can fire a few times before needing each barrel to be reloaded individually. And as for the goblin hewer... however far that thing can hurl an axe, I can guarantee that a jezzail can beat that by a serious margin. And then there's just the fact that Arch is poking fun.
I could see miners working fine, guerilla deployments been a thing in the past few total wars where you can deploy a particular type of unit anywhere on the field outside your box, as long as its not in the enemy's deployment box. in battle however, that could be tricky
Anglo-Celtic Knight Dude, your pic is fucking epic. But back on topic I know he's biased and since i don't play tabletop (mostly because i'm poor as dirt, for example I typing this on a half broken laptop) I'm rather unbiased except for The dwarfs and empire witch I like slightly more.
Sir Dude Thanks man! Yea I don't do the table top stuff but I do love the lore so I'm super excited for the total war game. The Lizardmen are my favourite but they don't really have a rival faction so I'm pretty unbiased.
Total war Warhammer dev: hmmm there is a lot of people who would love this game, we could watch TH-cam for guides of what they would like. Ca: your fired.
Gyrofighters and bombers could be something which works along the lines as "C&C Generals" special abilities. Either General, or the master technical, could have call them in, either as bombing run or perhaps as "anti air" duty.
Hey Arch, been watching your vids, really helped me get into Warhammer universe :). Imo, after watching the Blackfire Pass showcase, flying units will be there and miners should be completely okay to tunnel wherever they like :). In fact, since dwarves have no cavalary, miners could be the key to enemy ranged/artillery units and signature unit of the dwarves. Same with gyrocopter :). Gyrobomber sounds insane though xD.
41:33 DIS PICTURE..... Dwarf pilot in gyrobomber at the bottom: We're heading out! All aircraft, report! Dwarf in top-left portrait: I'm fine. You okay over there, Faux? Dwarf in top-middle portrait: You did it! That was a close one. Dwarf in top-right portrait: You're becoming more like your father.
I'v always wondered how the shield-bearers actually attack, are they not too busy carrying him? Shield in one hand and propping up the palanquin in the other, headbutt perhaps?
Tomas Walker Like shown in the background picture they pretty much just hold there lord up with 1 hand and bash the enemy with whatever they have in the other hand.
I have always loved the way the dwarf army looks. First time I ever heard of Warhammer was at comic and games shop around 97 that had a couple of armies in display cases one was dwarf army complete with Thorgrim Grudgebearer. I have never forgot how cool it looked
I actually started a dwarf army eventhough Age of Sigmar "happened". You just need to find people that still play 8th edition or the fan made 9th edition.
I'm very new to Warhammer, but your videos have helped me a lot on understanding lore, and faction statistics. I have one question though and this may sound stupid but are green skins orcs ? (note I'm 5 minutes in to the video). Thanks in advance! :) keep up the good work!
i feel like they are gonna do the mining tunnels because dwarves dont have cav that can go get the enemy artillery. so it would be a unique way to harass them.
So in the actual game they gave Miners Vanguard Deployment (can be deployed anywhere except for enemies' deploy zones), a trait usually restricted to light cavalry (Hexwraiths, undead dire wolves, some of the Empire shooty horses and I think that's it, unless the Greenskins and Chaos have been avoiding using it ever, IDK about Bretonians, they probably have a Vanguard horse unit, probably mounted Yeomen if those are a unit) but I've never used it- simply because part of the advantage of those vanguard units is that they don't get stuck on enemies easily, while miners do, meaning that they'll usually just get ganked by whatever they try to ambush- and they're less good in melee than most other Dwarf melee units. I mostly just used the blasting charges to cover my flanks to protect my ranged units, while other units tanked up front.
Very nice material. Thanks for making it. My few cents to your concerns about balances issues: 1.Quarrellers (hope i spell it right) and Thunderers - limiting it to 80 per unit would be enough, less than that and they would not do too much damage with they ranged attack. In return they should be less effective in melee by having 2-3 less attack (since they train with multiple weapons and have less time to specialize) and slightly weaker armor for example chainmail instead of heavy chainmail. Another thing is the range - Thunderers should have slightly less range than other ranged units. 2. Armor in general (and a bit economy) - I'd like to see system similar to that in Medieval 2. This way you'd need high level buildings to upgrade already significant dwarfish armor. Additionally first level smith wouldn't upgrade any armor (and might be even required to recruit any units) but would add to incone of the settlement (as well all further levels). But Dwarfs would be limited to only 1st levels farms. 3. Iron Breakers, Hammerers - The special units could be limited in a way you described in Empire army video with Pistoliers ond Outriders. For some number (2-4) of Longbeards (or Warriors) you could recruit 1 unit of Iron Breakers. The same with Hammerers but it could be 2-3 units for every general of your army. And most special infantry units could be limited to 80 men per unit (Slayers could be countered by ranged units since they don't have any armor). 4. General army size (this could apply to all armies) - Apart from money all units should require some amount of population to recruit. And while some races (Orks or Skaven) would have plenty of population to spare (through some special buildings) Dwarfs would be severly limited in population increase - like i said previously limit them to only 1st level farms. This way other armies could easily and quickly outnumerber Dwarfs. 5. Engineers - one unit I'd really like to see. 30 models strong, armed with some light firearms (good accuracy, moderate-short range, moderate-good reload, medium strength) but with special abilities for siege battles like giving a lot points buliding siege equipment, explosive barrels to blow up gates or make trenches which infantry can use to move closer to walls. Wow that ended up a bit long. Anyway thx for your hard work and please keep them coming. :)
If CA feels that dwarfs are overpowered they will simply nerf them. It's not as if they're making a videogame iteration of Warhammer Fantasy rules. They're making a Total War game that happens to be based in the fantasy world of Warhammer. For some, this will be a i distinction without a difference.
Philip Boardman what they make up with power, they lack with speed and numbers.......so most likely they will make them very few in numbers and expensive/time consuming to create or maintain......so this way they don't have to nerf them....
***** especially considering once they leave the Karak they become vulnerable like you said, in that they are painfully immobile. I imagine a few stacks of green-skins continuously sapping numbers will not allow them to travel far in any kind of safety, or an undead surprise attack from the rear could even be problematic.
Philip Boardman I doubt they will be overpowered in multiplayer. But it seems quite likely they may be the most powerful race in single-player (in the player's hands) simply because traditionally siege weapons have always been overpowered in Total War games, and the Dwarves are the masters of siege weaponry. Of course, now that we're adding monsters and magic to the mix that may no longer be the case.
Something to consider... the entrenchment can be simply summoning a structure to guard it against enemy calve but it degrades over time. Should be easy to implement.
Dwarfs, sneering at the most influential weapon of the enitirety of Human existance (Only thing that comes even close are clubs with subspiecies I suppose)... Anyway, what about pole-weapons?
theordinarytime Dwarfs generally don't approve of any weapon with more wood then metal + using a pole weapon when your a dwarfs kinda defeats the primary reason to use a pole weapon in the first place.
Arch Warhammer Can't really agree on Dwarfs defeating the point of pole weapons, Even the heaviest of close melee infantry will be vulnerable to Cavalry. Not to mention the fact that being Dwarfs, I'd imagine that reach is not in their favour... All the more reasons for Poleweapons being a good plan...
Hey. (This directs the question to you because I think you are a huge expert on the Warhammer universe). What drives gyrocpters? Warpstone? Some kind of gasoline?
Litte confused, whats the hierachy between Longbeards, Hammerers and Ironbreakers? Additionally, the dwarfs in the Call of Warhammer mod have the units "Greatbeards" and "Elders" who are insanley old and powerful dwarves with insane stats. Are they canon?
Let the speculation begin. What do you think the general's bodyguard units will be for the Dwarves? My guess: 1. Hammerers 2. Ironbreakers 3. Slayer command
Its possible but I doubt it, I'm guessing they would stick to the same pattern and just make them super badasses on their own, and if so I would say Hammerers and possibly Slayers. Ironbreakers were super elite but not usually like an actual generals bodyguard they were more used for defending tunnels and occasionally being the backbone of a super elite army. Also knowing CA I doubt they would offer two Top tier heavy melee infantry that you would get at basically the exact same time just not their style.
Oh also there was a regular lord in charge of the Greenskin army at Ambush at Thundering Falls and he didn't have a bodyguard but I guess its still possible to have the dwarfs have them.
In total war games like medieval 2 the french had half plated and full armor archers and crossbowman which is annoying but most of the time you just charge them with heavy cav since no one ever use light cav in medieval 2.
Did you know that muskets actually fire rather large size projectiles. The average size range of the bore of muskets would be between 0.50 to 0.75 inches.
Doomjoon for the empire handguns to powerful enough to harm the many types of enemies the Empire has to face, yet is light enough to carry it around and shoulder fire it without a prod means that it would have to have a cailber no bigger than 0.75 inches. Anything larger without a prod is going shatter your shoulder bones and will be too heavy to shoulder it
Adam Baker Oh, I thought that they didn't aim them from a shoulder mount. In that case yeah, being bigger than a musket would be too big. But now that I look at the plastic models, these things are in fact shoulder mounted, and are ridiculously large. So yeah, it wouldn't make much sense unless if they were made smaller, or not shoulder mounted.
this army is going to be like a steam roller!! only major downside is that like a steam roller they can be easy to dodge unless steps are taken to stop them from moviing
Andrew Harvey you don't stop dwarfes dead in their track, you just pray that they don't have a grudge against you while you fill them with cannon balls
So the dwarvs do not have mounted somethings, and no supportfor their aircraft exept from missile infantrie? Or can the cannons or ballistas fire at flying enemys? And you mentioned Mortars at the beginning of the video, these are not in the table- Top or why you didnt say something about them when you where talking about possible Units.
Jakob Schöning Dwarves downside is having bad movement, because no cavalry at all. Plus no magic, so no trickery either. Dwarves don't have Mortars, those are Empire. They use Stone Throwers for that.
I'm quite surprised at the state of the dwarf army in warhammer total war. I had expected the dwarfs to be some scary bastards but no they're pretty easy to counter build in multiplayer
namekman01 Dwarfs in TWW right now are not the worst, but definitely not the best faction in competitive multi-player. They have only armor and relatively strong footmen with some strong General and Hero choices, and their artillery is OK. If you have the King and the Warlord DLC they are significantly better however. They are better than they are a month ago, however, at the time kg the OPs comment
They sound pretty much op. I mean if they have heavy armor then archers are off the picture to counter them. if they have spears then cav is also off. So how to kill them??
+Daki55555 Heavy and shock cavallery, cannon fire, magic, monsters (except slayers), etc. But they aren't as OP in game as in this video, if you check out the battle between orc/goblins and the dwarv army in CA's video. The playing developer almost lost.
They aren't that bad you just have to be smart about it. They don't have spears so Cavalry totally is an option. They don't have any proper magic so that can work. Monsters can do major damage except when countered by slayers and even then slayers are fragile as fuck so litterally anything else will demolish them. Also they are super slow so if you can get around their main line you can cause havock. Dwarves main killing power comes from their artillery so getting at that makes them a fish out of water. Granted an incredibly tough fish but it'll suffocate eventually.
Air combat should be handled in a way similar to KuF, it would make for a far more interesting and engaging form of combat instead of having them as some stupid special ability.
"Skaven are superior"
Thaaaaats a grudge, beardling
I smell heresy
*LADS*
*GET THE BOOK*
Ratmen... superior?? I detect world breaking bullcrap bias, Arch is an awesome individual but his choice in fantasy armies is trash tier
@@EireHammer To be fair I imagine he loves Nuclear weapons.
heavy armor, guns, beer, and beards I can't wait to play dwarfs
I want to see Creative Assembly put the ability description for an Oathstone as "put down a gigantic fuck-off rock"
Lol made my day😂😂
THIS IS MY ROCK! THERE IS MANY LIKE IT BUT THIS ONE IS MINE!
without it my oath is nothing without me my oath is unfulfilled!
What is more likely is that some upstart young beardling has in fact tried to invent some newfangled contraption that is comparable to a machine gun but the longbeards are going to spend the next 100 years grumbling about it before it ever sees use.
Malakai Makaidon made some
There is one gyrocopter with a machine gun. The engineer who made it was exiled but then returned to the hold of Zhufbar. It is his personal gyrocopter with steam machine guns, and they don't misfire like the shaven ones. His name is Rimbal Wanazaki, and is a little bit crazy due to his love of drinking engine oil used in his gyrocopter.
Compared to other characters in the Warhammer Universe he's Quite sane
Isn't Dwarf Gyrocopters Beer Powered?
There's also the very relevant fact that Slayers, unlike literally everything in the Dwarf Army, have NO ARMOR AT ALL. This means that ranged weapons absolutely destroy them.
CantusTropus It is dwarfs we're talking about, and they aren't really going to travel in open areas so good luck getting a good shot on the Guys before they cleave you in two
+Jasper Daugaard ranged skirmisher cavalry my friend.
Gotrek once got conked by a rock from a beast man sling it nearly killed him in trollslayer
@@charlottewalnut3118 Yeah slings are actually a lot more deadly can people give them credit for. they used to make shaped bullets out of lead molds or carved stones. Shaping them so the rock would imbed itself inside of the target just like a bullet.
I look so much forward to playing the Dwarves in this game... they are my favorite race and should also fit perfectly with my personal playstyle. In any game that even allows such a thing, I tend to be a bit of a turtler and also tend to favour a backbone of solid defensive units backed up by massive ranged firepower. Mobility and clever hit-and-run tactics and other fanciful Elven concepts have never been my strength. Add to that the fact I am decidedly a quality-over-quantity type of person and typically enjoy drinking ale and scottish or irish whisky... Yeah, Dwarves!
+Jørgen A Kinda like the opposite of arch who is a skaven fan. Who likely favors quantity over quality and using hit and run with alot of flanking. I do wish they include skaven if only to see the war between dwarves and skaven.
Yeah, I too really hope for Skaven to be added, mainly so my Dwarves can fight them! Also Elves, especially High Elves... so many grudges that need settling with some Dwarf axe to Elf skull. I kind of expect an Elf-themed expansion to be the first they make, simply because, well, they're Elves, lots of people love Elves of various kinds, Ratmen not so much sadly.
Skaven may well be more popular among Warhammer fans but obviously as a Total War title many if not most potential customers will not have much of a connection with the Warhammer lore, so making sure Humans, Orcs, Dwarves and Elves are all in the game as quickly as possible will probably be a priority I think, just to have the full spectrum of mainstream fantasy races.
I thought the "clattergun" that can be mounted on the Gyrobomber was a machinegun though? In such a case they have developed them, hehe. Probably the grumpy old bastards simply haven't been satisfied with any hand-held versions that the more rebellious members of the Engineering Guild have no doubt tried to introduce several times already. Early-technology machineguns would after all be inaccurate and unreliable compared to other weapons (as is certainly the case with the Ratling Gun) and that simply would not do for the Dwarves. An inaccurate weapon? Mmmm... maybe. But UNRELIABLE? Oh hell no, Dwarves won't even consider using something that hasn't held up flawlessly to anywhere from decades to centuries of thorough testing. I think it said in one of the recent Dwarf army books that they don't even consider taking a simple cannon into actual battle until it's been through a century or so of trials to rule out any chance of imperfection.
Also, Dwarves don't have spears because spears require you to use WOOD. And wood is weak, fit perhaps for elves, but it's not stone or iron.
yeah its not like you can make a long iron rod or anything ......XD
Well also spears are for prissy elves according to dwarves. An axe is a real weapon fit for a dwarf
rev why would you leave it at an iron pole when you can put a hammer head on it and make it better
In the lore, Dwarves found a very strong wood on top of some of the World's Edge Mountains, some Dwarves use weapons made of it.
@@robertnelson9599 wutroth
Skaven are superior ?!
Bhahahahahahahahahahaha...
Ooooh lad, that was a good one!
Acorttis Skaven superior? Utterly ridiculous.
How's that skaven part of the book of grudges coming along?
Sab The Original Hahaha oh silly Arch, here let me write your name in the Book it Grudges in some Skaven blood. Just how you like it
I know, right? Laughed me arse off!
*laughs in Doomsphere*
Ah, da stunties. Memories of my first chosen Warhammer Fantasy army. Either these Guys or the greenskins will be my first playthrough. Greenskins depend on whether I can paint my armor red, because we all know red wunz go faster
zormgnoster fasta* (I'm not honestly trying to correct you)
Philip Boardman haha, true, didn't entirely envoke my inner greenskin there :-)
I like the fact that Longbeards let other Dwarves re-roll panic because the younglings are deathly determined to impress their elders and are really determined not to shame themselves.
I reallllly really hope they have karaks as multi tiered fights that take several turns and battles to take as it is a fortress underground and it just bleeds you army or armies where you wonder why you even attacked in the first place
hawkorxen Better be like that. Dwarves don't really hold much territory outside of the Karaks, so taking the Karaks out of action takes a huge amount of their population out. Also, look at how long it takes - they're STILL fighting over Karak Eight Peaks, and the Skaven took over most of that years ago.
knowing CA and what they've done in the past I highly doubt it. I'm guessing that their land will be their weakness they have strong and immobile fortresses gaurd in a smaller amount of land than say the empire. Personally I'm just glad they will probobly have the underground battles. Not sure how well that would work for like multi level stuff or tight spaces (that is what ironbreakers are designed for afterall) but I'm hoping they figure siege battles out
Oh arch, take your ratling gun unreliable trash somewhere else, the dwarf don't need machine guns. They invented something better. The Goblin Hewer. A machine gun that fires axes! All credit goes to the mad genius of Malakai Makaisson.
oh and on the subject of machine guns, what are the repeating handguns then arch? Granted, if the ratling gun is a machine gun, these are assault rifles, but the point stands. Problem with the dwarfs is that both these things are still awaiting their moronic engineer guild aproval (while the humans are using the repeater guns to great effect, but still in small numbers due to limited production capability, something the dwarfs would not have an issue with if they decide to use them).
Oh and dwarf still have attack helicopters. Skaven are still grounded.
93Avenger93 93Avenger93 There is a very significant difference between what is essentially a Gatling gun on warpstone steroids, and a muzzle-loaded handgun that can fire a few times before needing each barrel to be reloaded individually.
And as for the goblin hewer... however far that thing can hurl an axe, I can guarantee that a jezzail can beat that by a serious margin.
And then there's just the fact that Arch is poking fun.
Actually the Skaven built a rocket. They could easily build a helicopter if they wanted to.
@@therustedshank9995 The skaven managed to pull a moon out of the sky!
This was really well done when the game came out. You were literally on par to what the creators thought. well done.
Thanks for these videos, listening to someone ramble on a specific subject of the warhammer lore is surprisingly entertaining.
I could see miners working fine, guerilla deployments been a thing in the past few total wars where you can deploy a particular type of unit anywhere on the field outside your box, as long as its not in the enemy's deployment box. in battle however, that could be tricky
Arch can you please stop imposing your skaven fanboyism on us? :D just joking but still......
Sir Dude Haha it's like a Chaos fanboy doing a video about the Empire; slightly biased.
Anglo-Celtic Knight Dude, your pic is fucking epic.
But back on topic I know he's biased and since i don't play tabletop (mostly because i'm poor as dirt, for example I typing this on a half broken laptop) I'm rather unbiased except for The dwarfs and empire witch I like slightly more.
Sir Dude Thanks man! Yea I don't do the table top stuff but I do love the lore so I'm super excited for the total war game. The Lizardmen are my favourite but they don't really have a rival faction so I'm pretty unbiased.
Anglo-Celtic Knight maybe the skaven are their rivals?
Actually they have allies and fight everyone.
Total war Warhammer dev: hmmm there is a lot of people who would love this game, we could watch TH-cam for guides of what they would like.
Ca: your fired.
Okay im gonna play as dwarf! 😂
Ozzkar Silz Aye... Good choice, lad!
Gyrofighters and bombers could be something which works along the lines as "C&C Generals" special abilities. Either General, or the master technical, could have call them in, either as bombing run or perhaps as "anti air" duty.
Si Wi Oh thats a good idea, using them kinda of like arty or aoe spells for flying units anyway.
Sounds like Wargame Red Dragon air asset as well, but you can control it for a while.
A ratling gun isn't a gun, it's a bunch of tubes strapped together and lucky to get a shot off. A dwarven rifle is a work of art.
Effin' awesome! Thank you for sharing your knowledge about the armies! I'm really looking forward to this game.
Hey Arch, been watching your vids, really helped me get into Warhammer universe :).
Imo, after watching the Blackfire Pass showcase, flying units will be there and miners should be completely okay to tunnel wherever they like :). In fact, since dwarves have no cavalary, miners could be the key to enemy ranged/artillery units and signature unit of the dwarves. Same with gyrocopter :).
Gyrobomber sounds insane though xD.
These are so cool keep them coming great job you rock
41:33
DIS PICTURE.....
Dwarf pilot in gyrobomber at the bottom: We're heading out! All aircraft, report!
Dwarf in top-left portrait: I'm fine. You okay over there, Faux?
Dwarf in top-middle portrait: You did it! That was a close one.
Dwarf in top-right portrait: You're becoming more like your father.
i love you dude for doing this. also hats off for your ability to do this well:)
Are you going to make a video about the Tomb Kings?
PapaZoulou i will, but after the video spamming of the last few days the channel will be relatively quite for a few days now.
Oki
Cheers
Fun facts as seen in-game:
Most of the stuff here is true.
listening to this while playing the 2nd twwh, you really did a good estimate how it is, you are mostly correct
Watching this after the game has been around for awhile, and laughing at the number estimates.
Good stuff bro. Almost every concept you talked about got implemented. 👍 Only watching this vid now.. hehe.. Keep up the good work
I'v always wondered how the shield-bearers actually attack, are they not too busy carrying him? Shield in one hand and propping up the palanquin in the other, headbutt perhaps?
Tomas Walker Perhaps they use the shield to bash them.
Other question: how is the Dwarf on the shield actually hitting someone?
Good question, Whak a mole with greathammer?
Tomas Walker I'm really thrilled to see the animations. I nearly suspect the most glitches army in TW history.
Tomas Walker Haha actually the first picture in the video shows the shield bearers in action holding their lord and whacking chaos.
Tomas Walker Like shown in the background picture they pretty much just hold there lord up with 1 hand and bash the enemy with whatever they have in the other hand.
I'm surprised he didn't cover the Doom Anvil given how valuable it is or was in the Warhammer world.
to be honest with how the army looks now a day from release i find your predictions to be ridicoulusly accurate ^^
I have always loved the way the dwarf army looks. First time I ever heard of Warhammer was at comic and games shop around 97 that had a couple of armies in display cases one was dwarf army complete with Thorgrim Grudgebearer. I have never forgot how cool it looked
FK i wanted to start collecting dwarves after total warhammer but it seems age of sigmar rekt me.
I actually started a dwarf army eventhough Age of Sigmar "happened". You just need to find people that still play 8th edition or the fan made 9th edition.
Jesper Roos nobody plays age of sigmas, the hobby shops near me don't partake
Why didn't you mention some of the iconic dwarf heroes/champions? Like Gotrek, Bugman, King Alrik or the Great Slayer King?
And you still like Skaven more? I feel the need of a grudge to be spoken!
Benedikt Geierhofer keep in mind they invented fu^^^^^^ turrets before the dwarfes invented flamethrowers
Good point^^
I'm very new to Warhammer, but your videos have helped me a lot on understanding lore, and faction statistics. I have one question though and this may sound stupid but are green skins orcs ? (note I'm 5 minutes in to the video). Thanks in advance! :) keep up the good work!
Thecombo233ful yes, Greenskins is a universal word for all Orc related races so Black Orcs, Goblins; Gnoblars, Hobgoblins etc
So Arch, Do ya think we should be able to choose our starting legendary lord level character at the beginning of the campaign or not?
Phil5991 If theres more then 1 i would like to have them ALL at the same time!
I like how the music just stops when he is explaining that you aren't going to be able to kill the iron drakes
i feel like they are gonna do the mining tunnels because dwarves dont have cav that can go get the enemy artillery. so it would be a unique way to harass them.
So in the actual game they gave Miners Vanguard Deployment (can be deployed anywhere except for enemies' deploy zones), a trait usually restricted to light cavalry (Hexwraiths, undead dire wolves, some of the Empire shooty horses and I think that's it, unless the Greenskins and Chaos have been avoiding using it ever, IDK about Bretonians, they probably have a Vanguard horse unit, probably mounted Yeomen if those are a unit) but I've never used it- simply because part of the advantage of those vanguard units is that they don't get stuck on enemies easily, while miners do, meaning that they'll usually just get ganked by whatever they try to ambush- and they're less good in melee than most other Dwarf melee units. I mostly just used the blasting charges to cover my flanks to protect my ranged units, while other units tanked up front.
Very nice material. Thanks for making it. My few cents to your concerns about balances issues:
1.Quarrellers (hope i spell it right) and Thunderers - limiting it to 80 per unit would be enough, less than that and they would not do too much damage with they ranged attack. In return they should be less effective in melee by having 2-3 less attack (since they train with multiple weapons and have less time to specialize) and slightly weaker armor for example chainmail instead of heavy chainmail. Another thing is the range - Thunderers should have slightly less range than other ranged units.
2. Armor in general (and a bit economy) - I'd like to see system similar to that in Medieval 2. This way you'd need high level buildings to upgrade already significant dwarfish armor. Additionally first level smith wouldn't upgrade any armor (and might be even required to recruit any units) but would add to incone of the settlement (as well all further levels). But Dwarfs would be limited to only 1st levels farms.
3. Iron Breakers, Hammerers - The special units could be limited in a way you described in Empire army video with Pistoliers ond Outriders. For some number (2-4) of Longbeards (or Warriors) you could recruit 1 unit of Iron Breakers. The same with Hammerers but it could be 2-3 units for every general of your army. And most special infantry units could be limited to 80 men per unit (Slayers could be countered by ranged units since they don't have any armor).
4. General army size (this could apply to all armies) - Apart from money all units should require some amount of population to recruit. And while some races (Orks or Skaven) would have plenty of population to spare (through some special buildings) Dwarfs would be severly limited in population increase - like i said previously limit them to only 1st level farms. This way other armies could easily and quickly outnumerber Dwarfs.
5. Engineers - one unit I'd really like to see. 30 models strong, armed with some light firearms (good accuracy, moderate-short range, moderate-good reload, medium strength) but with special abilities for siege battles like giving a lot points buliding siege equipment, explosive barrels to blow up gates or make trenches which infantry can use to move closer to walls.
Wow that ended up a bit long. Anyway thx for your hard work and please keep them coming. :)
fighting the dwarves is always such a fucking pain in the ass table top or total war
If CA feels that dwarfs are overpowered they will simply nerf them. It's not as if they're making a videogame iteration of Warhammer Fantasy rules. They're making a Total War game that happens to be based in the fantasy world of Warhammer. For some, this will be a i distinction without a difference.
Philip Boardman what they make up with power, they lack with speed and numbers.......so most likely they will make them very few in numbers and expensive/time consuming to create or maintain......so this way they don't have to nerf them....
***** especially considering once they leave the Karak they become vulnerable like you said, in that they are painfully immobile. I imagine a few stacks of green-skins continuously sapping numbers will not allow them to travel far in any kind of safety, or an undead surprise attack from the rear could even be problematic.
Philip Boardman I doubt they will be overpowered in multiplayer. But it seems quite likely they may be the most powerful race in single-player (in the player's hands) simply because traditionally siege weapons have always been overpowered in Total War games, and the Dwarves are the masters of siege weaponry.
Of course, now that we're adding monsters and magic to the mix that may no longer be the case.
rewatching in 2020, wow the amount of stuff dropped from previous titles is depressing
Something to consider... the entrenchment can be simply summoning a structure to guard it against enemy calve but it degrades over time. Should be easy to implement.
Dwarfs, sneering at the most influential weapon of the enitirety of Human existance (Only thing that comes even close are clubs with subspiecies I suppose)...
Anyway, what about pole-weapons?
theordinarytime Dwarfs generally don't approve of any weapon with more wood then metal + using a pole weapon when your a dwarfs kinda defeats the primary reason to use a pole weapon in the first place.
Arch Warhammer Can't really agree on Dwarfs defeating the point of pole weapons,
Even the heaviest of close melee infantry will be vulnerable to Cavalry. Not to mention the fact that being Dwarfs, I'd imagine that reach is not in their favour... All the more reasons for Poleweapons being a good plan...
The BEST race!!
Eetu Hinkkainen is Dragonborn
so if their handguns are more like hancannons, how come in the game handgunners of dwarf and empire do the same damage?
Hey. (This directs the question to you because I think you are a huge expert on the Warhammer universe). What drives gyrocpters? Warpstone? Some kind of gasoline?
I think they use alcohol.
We don't have machine guns but we have gatlings! Less fire power but they at least don't explode in our hands you wazzok!
Litte confused, whats the hierachy between Longbeards, Hammerers and Ironbreakers?
Additionally, the dwarfs in the Call of Warhammer mod have the units "Greatbeards" and "Elders" who are insanley old and powerful dwarves with insane stats. Are they canon?
How long would you personally live as a skaven compared to a dwarf?
Trystan Crocker You’d probably only make it to one day
@@SpookyMarine a polar opposite of a Dwarf, they can live up to 600 years.
Just wondering if you will be covering the High Elves in the future,as I'm curious about their lore and their army?
Rellana1 i will cover all of the races eventualy at a rate of ca 1 per week
Everybody gangsta until the dwarves start flying
You have to share your army videos with CA because you have such good ideas that i would love to see in the game
Think I'll play as a dwarf...you made a very convincing case.Just one think, I propose unlimited irondrakes, unitcount 120. for a bit of fun...
Arch you probably don't even look at your old videos but what do you think about The 9th Age?
Spoilers: IT SUCKS!!!
Have you ever played Call of Warhammer or Mark of Chaos? What do you think of them?
I think i've only ever seen round shields in the Warhammer world used by the Dawi, did they ever use square/rectangular/triangle/kite shields ?
Arch, Total war just put out the first Dwarf quest line battle. Are we gonna see you analysis of the fight soon?
Please do a lore video on just the Slayers please??
slayers were a lot of fun to play in Warhammer:Age of Reckoning
Let the speculation begin. What do you think the general's bodyguard units will be for the Dwarves?
My guess:
1. Hammerers
2. Ironbreakers
3. Slayer command
Aye guess what no generals bodyguard
+TJ Coleman Legendary lords and Agents have no bodyguards. Maybe the average ones will
Its possible but I doubt it, I'm guessing they would stick to the same pattern and just make them super badasses on their own, and if so I would say Hammerers and possibly Slayers. Ironbreakers were super elite but not usually like an actual generals bodyguard they were more used for defending tunnels and occasionally being the backbone of a super elite army. Also knowing CA I doubt they would offer two Top tier heavy melee infantry that you would get at basically the exact same time just not their style.
Oh also there was a regular lord in charge of the Greenskin army at Ambush at Thundering Falls and he didn't have a bodyguard but I guess its still possible to have the dwarfs have them.
In total war games like medieval 2 the french had half plated and full armor archers and crossbowman which is annoying but most of the time you just charge them with heavy cav since no one ever use light cav in medieval 2.
firecard i only ever use light cav for hunting Down enemy units when i can't access heavy cav
Watching this year’s after the game came out I’m curious as to what you think of how they did the dwarfs. Also how do you like the vanguard deployment
i am thinking about begining to play warhammer. Is dwarves a good start? (sorry for bad english i am norwegian)
Did you know that muskets actually fire rather large size projectiles. The average size range of the bore of muskets would be between 0.50 to 0.75 inches.
Indeed, but handguns were even larger.
Doomjoon for the empire handguns to powerful enough to harm the many types of enemies the Empire has to face, yet is light enough to carry it around and shoulder fire it without a prod means that it would have to have a cailber no bigger than 0.75 inches. Anything larger without a prod is going shatter your shoulder bones and will be too heavy to shoulder it
Adam Baker Oh, I thought that they didn't aim them from a shoulder mount. In that case yeah, being bigger than a musket would be too big.
But now that I look at the plastic models, these things are in fact shoulder mounted, and are ridiculously large. So yeah, it wouldn't make much sense unless if they were made smaller, or not shoulder mounted.
*Preparing cookies and milk after coming home from school.* Play
I'am going to play as the dwarfs when i get my hands on total war warhammer.
Imposter?
41:00 How about adding gyrobombers as a bombing run ability gained through a trait for your general?
Skaven machine gun? You mean the one that blow in your face or the one you throw at the enemy? :)
*cough* *cough* skavens strongest warrior gets strangled by the dwarf king bare handed *cough* *cough*
Do Gyrocopters not have steam guns? AKA machine guns?
The gyro bomber cause fear? & if not, why? I mean should I really have to explain why a bomber would cause fear to units on the ground lol?
this army is going to be like a steam roller!! only major downside is that like a steam roller they can be easy to dodge unless steps are taken to stop them from moviing
Andrew Harvey you don't stop dwarfes dead in their track, you just pray that they don't have a grudge against you while you fill them with cannon balls
lol agreed
So the dwarvs do not have mounted somethings, and no supportfor their aircraft exept from missile infantrie? Or can the cannons or ballistas fire at flying enemys?
And you mentioned Mortars at the beginning of the video, these are not in the table- Top or why you didnt say something about them when you where talking about possible Units.
Jakob Schöning Dwarves downside is having bad movement, because no cavalry at all. Plus no magic, so no trickery either. Dwarves don't have Mortars, those are Empire. They use Stone Throwers for that.
CantusTropus It was more a resume by me for me no complaining, and I think he said that the dwarfs do have mortars
Dwarves are after all your perfect turtle army.
somebody doesn't like heavy armored short bearded people
Will you make videos of the minor factions like Kislev
LEGOSHADOWSPARTAN some of them yes, i will do Kislev at some point.
That was great,love me my dwarves.
So far I seen some of these videos but I cant recall anytime where you say they should be 160 its ether 120 or 240. mostly 80 or less.
Will the Dwarf have any sort of mount?
why the hell do hammerers not have gromril armor. makes no sense to me.
Wiped his arse with his beard LOL so now your doing comedy Arch
why do the miners have candles on their heads?
I'm quite surprised at the state of the dwarf army in warhammer total war. I had expected the dwarfs to be some scary bastards but no they're pretty easy to counter build in multiplayer
Renz F not as easy anymore tho
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i dont own the latest tw game, but am considering buying it.
can you explain what you guys are talking about?
namekman01 Dwarfs in TWW right now are not the worst, but definitely not the best faction in competitive multi-player. They have only armor and relatively strong footmen with some strong General and Hero choices, and their artillery is OK. If you have the King and the Warlord DLC they are significantly better however. They are better than they are a month ago, however, at the time kg the OPs comment
TheIceDragon aren't gyrocopters brilliant? They are for me in single player campaign
You'd think that dwarves, being so short would be more than happy to use spears or pikes. They would benefit greatly from the added reach.
In the movie Hobbit: The battle of the five armies the Dwarfs of the iron hills have spears.
Σωτήρης Λιάκος Warhammer dwarves don't use spears though, apparently.
Nastrael Rowe Why ?
Idfk. Ask Games Workshop.
+Nastrael Rowe Ok
Are the photo's of your models? quality
They sound pretty much op. I mean if they have heavy armor then archers are off the picture to counter them. if they have spears then cav is also off. So how to kill them??
+Daki55555 Heavy and shock cavallery, cannon fire, magic, monsters (except slayers), etc. But they aren't as OP in game as in this video, if you check out the battle between orc/goblins and the dwarv army in CA's video. The playing developer almost lost.
They aren't that bad you just have to be smart about it. They don't have spears so Cavalry totally is an option. They don't have any proper magic so that can work. Monsters can do major damage except when countered by slayers and even then slayers are fragile as fuck so litterally anything else will demolish them. Also they are super slow so if you can get around their main line you can cause havock. Dwarves main killing power comes from their artillery so getting at that makes them a fish out of water. Granted an incredibly tough fish but it'll suffocate eventually.
what if the miners special ability instead is 'can sap first turn?' ayo
Couldnt the Iron breakers be a 30 man unit, like the various hero units from shogun 2?
how is this eight years old?!
I hope Gotrek Gurnisson shows up, Grimnir reborned!
Arch the Perpetual. :)
Does Dwarfes have any good anti Cavalry ?
Ironbreakers they can take a charge from anything
but what about skirmish cavalry,quarrelers?
Air combat should be handled in a way similar to KuF, it would make for a far more interesting and engaging form of combat instead of having them as some stupid special ability.