Anyone coming here lately might be confused about where to find the crucial "outputs" section of Kontakt 7. I think the software might have just updated recently because I couldn't find the icons referenced in the first couple minutes of the video. If you have Kontakt Player 7 open with the drumkit and click "View" and then "Rack view" it will switch to the format indicated in the video. Clicking "view" again will reveal the option to show the "output" section.
I've watched a lot of the routing videos and somehow you've nailed all of the problem points. I have each time! Much easier to use GGD and setup templates now!
Tried this yesterday with MixWave. I have done this multiple times in various drum programs. Kontakt is by far the least user-friendly. Had to solve like 4-5 problems before I got it to work. Not your fault in GGD of course. Just incredible unintuitive in Kontakt (even had you stumbled for a moment - I mean who knows to click the ! in that situation). Anyway - thanks for the video. Very helpful.
I would love to see GGD move away from Kontakt, to have more flexibility to be able to do things with a host of their own. The cumbersomeness of setting up a multi-out in kontakt, is one of many reasons... A revamped and more homogeneous GUI for all their libraries, as well as a MIDI Grooves bank for all of them. I think this would be the next big step, I know it's a big investment to develop your own software, but I think it's worth it. Go for it GGD!!!!
So I’m not sure but what are the mono and spot mic channels? Like I know what the overheads are of course and I’ve received the near and far rooms separate instead of summed. But what’s the mono and spot mic differences and purpose of the mono channel?
When we do this, it doesn’t say ‘St. 1 [1]’, it says ‘St. 1/2 [1]’ and ‘St. 1/2 [2]’. How do we change it to ‘St. 1 [1]’ and ‘St. 2 [2]’? PLEASE HELP!!!
@@BODSTREAM So I just figured it out. It doesn’t matter what the host is. Just pick St 1/2, and add 10 tracks with 2 stereo channels. The most important thing is that for each track, you need to have to each 2 channels set to it in ascending order. Click the bottom of each track where it should have 1|2 designated. For example, Track 1/KICK (1|2); Track 2/Snare top (3|4), so on and so forth until the last Track 10/ROOMS has stereo channels 19/20. It’s needlessly complicated. The remaining audio tracks set as not assigned. Hope this helps!
As always, amazing video! Thank you! I will admit, since they released a Kontakt 7 I have been having massive trouble creating a FrankenKit using a GGD library. Any chance you kind and fine folks at get good drums could make a video walking us through how to make a one in Kontakt 7?
GGD's team should "go crazy" and invest to develop their own Host, this way they would avoid many problems that kontakt has, being able to make something more personalized, simple and adapted to the needs and characteristics of a virtual drummer software.
Hey! Should your routing option be sent to multi out or multi out advanced? I can see yours is in stereo, but it seems to not matter. Would you care to explain the differences for us of us that don't understand, and why it might not matter in your case?
Even after following this video exactly, all of my drums are going through the first output (kick channel) as well as their respective channels. This also happened when following all the old tutorials. I guess I can just start with kick on output 2 and mute output 1? It's annoying though. Do I need to fix routing somewhere else?
@@iplayzdrumz I had the same issue - try resetting the outputs to a factory preset first (for ex stereo 16x), and then follow the steps that Joe gives to make a default configuration. This got rid of my extra 1/2 that was showing up and now all of my outputs are looking delicious. Let me know if this helps
I'm having trouble navigating Kontakt itself. That display in Kontakt with all the outputs with their dropdown menus at 2:20 I can't seem to find. Is there a way to access it?
Open the instrument. Right where it says Kontakt Player, click the Minimize option. It will switch to a different view. Now if you click Workplace Management, the Outputs will be there.
This may be a newbie question, but what are the benefits of using kontakt 7? Anything different compared to Kontakt 5? It's always worked well for me so I'm under that "if it's not broken, don't fix it" mind set. 😅
Pro Tools Users - If you cant change the outputs in Kontakt on the individual pieces (Kick/Snare/Room mono/etc. outputs only have St.1 Option) save once you've added and named the outputs in Kontakt, and restart pro tools. You should be able to change the outputs for each piece. It doesn't update until you restart (Gotta love pro tools)
So i have a question. I did everything you said here and it worked perfectly. But does this mean that in my logic session when i hit "S" On the track with my drum midi on it, it will only play the kick and not the whole kit?
i've routed everything but i want to send out a parallel comp for the snare. How would i do that ? i'm using waveform and i can't figue out how to send the snare to 2 different channels at the same time
What I don't understand is why either the Master fader in the GGD interface or the one from the Kontakt Instrument (small top-right volume) controls the whole output but just some of it. I always have a lot of snare and some OH signal left uncontrolled.
followed everything step by step all of my outputs in kontakt show up but in logic all the drums are still only one one channel even with multiple output channels open the routing from inside kontakt works perfectly but cant seem to get it to work in logic any help?
Is there a way to add spot mics to cymbals other than hats, crash-ride, stack, ride and splash? I noticed when I changed my right cymbal from a 21" crash-ride to a regular 19" crash, it only picks up under OH and Room and not spot anymore. Same with the china. Thanks! Seems I can only turn up the volume of those cymbals in settings under OH/mono/Rooms
hey hey, thanks for this video. I'm wondering. I see on all kontakt routing videos that people route mono mics (for example snare top) to a stereo output and onto a stereo track in the DAW. Why is that? Does it help in some way or maybe it just doesnt matter? Can't seem to find the answer for this. Cheers
So that routing menu provides some routing presets - selecting one will assign each channel to an output automatically. I personally like routing my channels slightly differently to those presets, so left it as stereo then went and created/selected my own outputs! - Joe
Im doing this in Cubase and for some reason it has to have a main Track as a return for all of these sub tracks but it forces the name of the first sub track (St 1) to be the name of the main track, i think because St 1 is the host channel. How do i get it to be seperate from that? If i name the first channel "Kick" It names the main Track "Kick" but i just want the main track to be "Drums"
Im using GGD One Kit Wonder and i dont have the options for each piece of the drums. For example, i can only send the snare to one track, i dont have snare top, bottom, OH, and room. I just have a single slider per. Any help?
I followed this exactly, but once it came to clicking the exclamation mark to rescan the outputs, Invasion was no longer working. I get no sound from clicking the kit pieces. After clicking the exclamation marker it never loaded the kit again? I'm so lost on this lol.
Question/problem/misunderstanding: I think I've done all this correctly, and it works just like Joe explains it 👍. However, when in the main window (arrangement/tracks view/non-mixer view), the Track Header Components only apply to the first channel in the stack - since I set mine up like Joe's, the kick. Ex. The M and S buttons only mute and solo the kick, respectively, and have no effect on any of the other pieces of the drum kit. In this scenario, the only way I can solo the drums, is to pull up the mixer view, and multi-select the kick and it's subsequent 16 stereo pairs of outputs, and then click the S on one of the selected tracks. I'm missing something, right?
Does anybody know how to route each individual cymbal to a mixer track In my daw using this kit?? Ive got a project that’s only using the china and 2 crashes that aren’t on the mixer. Do I sample the china and drag back in to my session??
Guys are the Cymbals not single miced, only via Overheads? I use the Matt Halpern. And Cymbal 1 and 2 are just audible via overhead. Only Cymbal 3 has a separate mic channel + overhead. And you routed the snare reverb effect wrongly. And I can't change that. Reverb FX from the snare comes always with the Kick channel
Anybody know how to reset the outputs to default? I can't seem to create 10 outputs from St1 to St10 and the 4 aux outputs like in this video. Mine starts with st1/2, then goes to st2 (Neither of which are connected to a plug in output), then st3/4, st 5/6, st 7/8. Really confusing I just need to reset it but can't find out anywhere how to :(
PLEASE HELP. I noticed that we are routing the kick into a STEREO output. From my understanding, kick drums are typically mixed in MONO. Is this something you change later when preparing for a mixdown or is this something I should be addressing while writing? Or does this not matter because the stereo channel/track will just be mirror images of eachother essentially dual mono? Sorry I know its a lot of questions but I want to take these routed channels and pepare them for a mix and that results in my kick being a stereo file and my references of a professional stems have the kick in mono..
It turns out, it was in the "minimized" browser by default. As soon as I switched to the maximized browser by clicking the icon with two squares on the right, I was able to see Outputs and more options.
I cant find the output setting for the FREE Kontakt 7 player, none of those options exist. Anyone? I feel like I wasted money on GGD because Konakt isnt intuitive. Am I really going to have to buy the full version of Kontakt just to be able to see the options due to poor user interface??
I just purchased my fist ggd plugin and I've been struggling!!! is there any videos that discuss "choking cymbals" features. I have a Roland td27 with cymbal choking capability but I lost that feature with using ggd. Id love to get that feature back on my edit @getgooddrums
I keep getting stuck at the end, once ive labelled all the outputs I can't see them in GGD, so I click the ! but it just says ....Loading on the screen and I have to close everything and restart again each time. Any suggestions, I'm using GGD M&M, K7 a brand new M3 Mac, 18gb Ram so defo enough power I think.
Extra bit now, ive managed to do a straight run through, but now when I select Snare to route the outputs, it still shows the Kick ones, it won't change over??? Is this just K7 or a GGD issue?
update: it when renaming the outputs, I started doing one-by-one and got to about 7th down the line and that's when it froze. Must be something to do with that.
Anyone coming here lately might be confused about where to find the crucial "outputs" section of Kontakt 7. I think the software might have just updated recently because I couldn't find the icons referenced in the first couple minutes of the video. If you have Kontakt Player 7 open with the drumkit and click "View" and then "Rack view" it will switch to the format indicated in the video. Clicking "view" again will reveal the option to show the "output" section.
Thanks, exactly what i missed.
You're a true G.
Thanks dude! Fuck Kontakt.
where's the view button?
@@antondrums It should be at the very top bar next to the "Kontakt Player" logo.
I've watched a lot of the routing videos and somehow you've nailed all of the problem points. I have each time! Much easier to use GGD and setup templates now!
Great to hear it!
Bro THAAAANK YOU! 7:01 was the answer I needed. Don’t know how every other tutorial I see fails to mention that!
I'm planning to get Kontact and the PV Kit; this will be my first time working with this kind of set up, so I really appreciate you making this video!
Tried this yesterday with MixWave. I have done this multiple times in various drum programs. Kontakt is by far the least user-friendly. Had to solve like 4-5 problems before I got it to work. Not your fault in GGD of course. Just incredible unintuitive in Kontakt (even had you stumbled for a moment - I mean who knows to click the ! in that situation). Anyway - thanks for the video. Very helpful.
Thank you Joe. This was extremely helpful! I only have the Modern Fusion Kit, but do plan on buying more expansions in the future 🙂
Thank you, guys. I’ve been dreading tackling this working on my new project. So thankful for that!
Happy to help!
BLESS YOU I was so lost my guy... THANK YOU. Absolutely loving this kit!
thank you so much Joe. I was so frustrated I thought that my kontakt 7 player was broken.
Honestly need this, Thank you GGD & Joe! y'all are amazing
I see that you kept the library out to Stereo. What are the advantages or disadvantages of using multi out or multi out advanced?
I would love to see GGD move away from Kontakt, to have more flexibility to be able to do things with a host of their own. The cumbersomeness of setting up a multi-out in kontakt, is one of many reasons... A revamped and more homogeneous GUI for all their libraries, as well as a MIDI Grooves bank for all of them. I think this would be the next big step, I know it's a big investment to develop your own software, but I think it's worth it. Go for it GGD!!!!
nice video Joe.
One more thing. There's a bit of rattle behind you vocals. It's on another video I watched from you as well. Is that on purpose?
Anyone else having an issue where on the host channel selection it only shows the option for ST 1/2 instead of ST 1? Not sure how to fix this.
SAME PROBLEM
DID YOU FIND OUT???
@@BODSTREAM Sadly, I still haven't found a fix for this :(
Still having this issue 4 months after your original comment, hopefully somebody has found the issue by now
Yeah wtf is up with this. Super confusing
So I’m not sure but what are the mono and spot mic channels? Like I know what the overheads are of course and I’ve received the near and far rooms separate instead of summed. But what’s the mono and spot mic differences and purpose of the mono channel?
7:04 - the actual answer
When we do this, it doesn’t say ‘St. 1 [1]’, it says ‘St. 1/2 [1]’ and ‘St. 1/2 [2]’.
How do we change it to ‘St. 1 [1]’ and ‘St. 2 [2]’?
PLEASE HELP!!!
@@BODSTREAM So I just figured it out. It doesn’t matter what the host is. Just pick St 1/2, and add 10 tracks with 2 stereo channels. The most important thing is that for each track, you need to have to each 2 channels set to it in ascending order. Click the bottom of each track where it should have 1|2 designated.
For example, Track 1/KICK (1|2); Track 2/Snare top (3|4), so on and so forth until the last Track 10/ROOMS has stereo channels 19/20.
It’s needlessly complicated. The remaining audio tracks set as not assigned. Hope this helps!
What can I say, Thank you, you are awesome, dude!
As always, amazing video! Thank you!
I will admit, since they released a Kontakt 7 I have been having massive trouble creating a FrankenKit using a GGD library. Any chance you kind and fine folks at get good drums could make a video walking us through how to make a one in Kontakt 7?
GGD's team should "go crazy" and invest to develop their own Host, this way they would avoid many problems that kontakt has, being able to make something more personalized, simple and adapted to the needs and characteristics of a virtual drummer software.
Hey! Should your routing option be sent to multi out or multi out advanced? I can see yours is in stereo, but it seems to not matter. Would you care to explain the differences for us of us that don't understand, and why it might not matter in your case?
Even after following this video exactly, all of my drums are going through the first output (kick channel) as well as their respective channels. This also happened when following all the old tutorials. I guess I can just start with kick on output 2 and mute output 1? It's annoying though. Do I need to fix routing somewhere else?
Hey, I'm having this same issue - were you ever able to solve it? Thanks
@@iplayzdrumz I had the same issue - try resetting the outputs to a factory preset first (for ex stereo 16x), and then follow the steps that Joe gives to make a default configuration. This got rid of my extra 1/2 that was showing up and now all of my outputs are looking delicious. Let me know if this helps
Finally was able to get everything routed, but from what I see the OKW Architects doesn't have the options to do snare top/bottom.
I'm having trouble navigating Kontakt itself. That display in Kontakt with all the outputs with their dropdown menus at 2:20 I can't seem to find. Is there a way to access it?
Open the instrument. Right where it says Kontakt Player, click the Minimize option. It will switch to a different view. Now if you click Workplace Management, the Outputs will be there.
This may be a newbie question, but what are the benefits of using kontakt 7? Anything different compared to Kontakt 5? It's always worked well for me so I'm under that "if it's not broken, don't fix it" mind set. 😅
In order to use GGD P5 you have to be updated to Kontakt 7. It's seems a little smoother than Kontakt 5 and 6 in general.
Indeed! To load PV you'll need Kontakt 7/7 Player. There are some new features in Kontakt 7/7 Player but they don't really effect our libraries.
Thank you guys so much for the knowledge. 🙏
Would I have to be on the latest version of my DAW to use Kontakt 7 though? Cause I use Reason Essentials 10 and I don't see Kontakt 7.
Thank you!
Pro Tools Users - If you cant change the outputs in Kontakt on the individual pieces (Kick/Snare/Room mono/etc. outputs only have St.1 Option) save once you've added and named the outputs in Kontakt, and restart pro tools. You should be able to change the outputs for each piece. It doesn't update until you restart (Gotta love pro tools)
why mine when i hit snare the kick triggers as well. also toms. i follow what have you done in the video. how to fix this please reply thank you
So i have a question. I did everything you said here and it worked perfectly. But does this mean that in my logic session when i hit "S" On the track with my drum midi on it, it will only play the kick and not the whole kit?
i've routed everything but i want to send out a parallel comp for the snare. How would i do that ? i'm using waveform and i can't figue out how to send the snare to 2 different channels at the same time
How do I multi out route like this while also sending everything out a stereo sum out of konakt as well?
any chance of an updated video, good till it gets to routing the channels out of the library. downloaded my version 26th June 2024 modern & massive
How did he make all of those tracks with the different Contact inputs?
Thank you for this. Chris bedan has some good ones, but Kontact 7 seems different.
What I don't understand is why either the Master fader in the GGD interface or the one from the Kontakt Instrument (small top-right volume) controls the whole output but just some of it. I always have a lot of snare and some OH signal left uncontrolled.
followed everything step by step all of my outputs in kontakt show up but in logic all the drums are still only one one channel even with multiple output channels open the routing from inside kontakt works perfectly but cant seem to get it to work in logic any help?
Is Kontakt 6 still supported by GGD? Can I open P4 in Kontakt 6??
Is there a way to add spot mics to cymbals other than hats, crash-ride, stack, ride and splash? I noticed when I changed my right cymbal from a 21" crash-ride to a regular 19" crash, it only picks up under OH and Room and not spot anymore. Same with the china. Thanks! Seems I can only turn up the volume of those cymbals in settings under OH/mono/Rooms
hey hey, thanks for this video.
I'm wondering. I see on all kontakt routing videos that people route mono mics (for example snare top) to a stereo output and onto a stereo track in the DAW. Why is that? Does it help in some way or maybe it just doesnt matter?
Can't seem to find the answer for this.
Cheers
I noticed you didnt change the output of the pv to multi and left it as stereo, does it make any difference when changing it to multi output?
So that routing menu provides some routing presets - selecting one will assign each channel to an output automatically. I personally like routing my channels slightly differently to those presets, so left it as stereo then went and created/selected my own outputs! - Joe
For some reason my kick channel has a snare room/reverb sound when soloing on my logic pro kick channel@@GetGoodDrums
Is there a way to assign GGD drums from Kontakt to play them with pads on an Akai mini? I’m using FL studio, if that helps. Thanks in advance
you ever find a solution to this?
Im doing this in Cubase and for some reason it has to have a main Track as a return for all of these sub tracks but it forces the name of the first sub track (St 1) to be the name of the main track, i think because St 1 is the host channel. How do i get it to be seperate from that? If i name the first channel "Kick" It names the main Track "Kick" but i just want the main track to be "Drums"
Why my reverbs doesnt work?? Is it because of multi out? Need a route too??
please make it next, one kit wonder tesseract
Im using GGD One Kit Wonder and i dont have the options for each piece of the drums. For example, i can only send the snare to one track, i dont have snare top, bottom, OH, and room. I just have a single slider per. Any help?
I followed this exactly, but once it came to clicking the exclamation mark to rescan the outputs, Invasion was no longer working. I get no sound from clicking the kit pieces. After clicking the exclamation marker it never loaded the kit again? I'm so lost on this lol.
Thank you so much! This makes complete sense to me now :)
Question/problem/misunderstanding: I think I've done all this correctly, and it works just like Joe explains it 👍. However, when in the main window (arrangement/tracks view/non-mixer view), the Track Header Components only apply to the first channel in the stack - since I set mine up like Joe's, the kick. Ex. The M and S buttons only mute and solo the kick, respectively, and have no effect on any of the other pieces of the drum kit. In this scenario, the only way I can solo the drums, is to pull up the mixer view, and multi-select the kick and it's subsequent 16 stereo pairs of outputs, and then click the S on one of the selected tracks. I'm missing something, right?
Can someone please explain the 'mono' mic to me?
Whats the point of it and what do you do mixing wise with it? Thanks
Does anybody know how to route each individual cymbal to a mixer track In my daw using this kit?? Ive got a project that’s only using the china and 2 crashes that aren’t on the mixer. Do I sample the china and drag back in to my session??
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
Guys are the Cymbals not single miced, only via Overheads? I use the Matt Halpern. And Cymbal 1 and 2 are just audible via overhead. Only Cymbal 3 has a separate mic channel + overhead. And you routed the snare reverb effect wrongly. And I can't change that. Reverb FX from the snare comes always with the Kick channel
Anybody know how to reset the outputs to default? I can't seem to create 10 outputs from St1 to St10 and the 4 aux outputs like in this video. Mine starts with st1/2, then goes to st2 (Neither of which are connected to a plug in output), then st3/4, st 5/6, st 7/8. Really confusing I just need to reset it but can't find out anywhere how to :(
PLEASE HELP. I noticed that we are routing the kick into a STEREO output. From my understanding, kick drums are typically mixed in MONO. Is this something you change later when preparing for a mixdown or is this something I should be addressing while writing? Or does this not matter because the stereo channel/track will just be mirror images of eachother essentially dual mono? Sorry I know its a lot of questions but I want to take these routed channels and pepare them for a mix and that results in my kick being a stereo file and my references of a professional stems have the kick in mono..
It is mostly fine. However when you are adding stereo effects in your DAW on channels where mono would be "enough" you are using a bit more CPU.
I have the One Kit Wonder Pop Punk, Logic Pro and Kontakt Player 7, but I can't see the Output section in Kontakt Player. Does anyone know why?
It turns out, it was in the "minimized" browser by default. As soon as I switched to the maximized browser by clicking the icon with two squares on the right, I was able to see Outputs and more options.
@@fredimachadonet Thank you, this just helped me out!
спасибо
I cant find the output setting for the FREE Kontakt 7 player, none of those options exist. Anyone? I feel like I wasted money on GGD because Konakt isnt intuitive. Am I really going to have to buy the full version of Kontakt just to be able to see the options due to poor user interface??
followed exactly.. all channels triggering fine except for kick + snare top (channel 1 + 2).. no sound.. wat da hell.. using GGD M&M
Kontakt with GGD is awfully confusing comparing to other drum plug ins....u should make it more easy and simple....
Agree
i wish GGD was a standalone. Kontakt is such a pain in the ass. At least it loads natively..
Horrible and a very confusing video.
I just purchased my fist ggd plugin and I've been struggling!!! is there any videos that discuss "choking cymbals" features. I have a Roland td27 with cymbal choking capability but I lost that feature with using ggd. Id love to get that feature back on my edit @getgooddrums
There are MIDI notes dedicated to choking cymbals
I keep getting stuck at the end, once ive labelled all the outputs I can't see them in GGD, so I click the ! but it just says ....Loading on the screen and I have to close everything and restart again each time. Any suggestions, I'm using GGD M&M, K7 a brand new M3 Mac, 18gb Ram so defo enough power I think.
Extra bit now, ive managed to do a straight run through, but now when I select Snare to route the outputs, it still shows the Kick ones, it won't change over??? Is this just K7 or a GGD issue?
update: it when renaming the outputs, I started doing one-by-one and got to about 7th down the line and that's when it froze. Must be something to do with that.