You just made my day with the brilliant idea of raising the body off and leave the subframe on the floor - instead of jacking the body and carefully lowering the subframe while trying to keep it from falling. Thank you so very much Keith!
I, for one, agree with you removing the underseal. You have been so particular with other parts, and now you have removed all doubts about the rear wheel arches and under belly by removing the seal. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for sharing, this takes away my confusion on how I’m going to remove mine!! I’m installing the upgraded subframe from MiniTec right after my bodywork!!
Rick..underseal.. Who on earth invented this? My mini rotted out from the inside out due to bad underseal. Removed all of it, and now use stonechip. Keith, another awesome step by step episode. Another episode for the definitive guide for the classic mini
Its a ball ache and you do feel like its not worth the effort but you would regret not getting that underseal off. And the amount of rust rot proved you right. Not excessive but enough to need finding and fixing. And its all about doing a job right. This car has turned out to be a bit of a hidden gem. Although you wouldn't feel like that after 8 hours of graft!
It was good to see your sub-frame mounting bolts unscrewing. Mine didn't. They either snapped or had to be cut off. Keep up the good work. Hope to see you at Bingley Hall.
I just completed those two (I had a few more) repairs. The closing panels under the floor were solid with only surface rust so I didn't need to replace them. I formed the two panels myself. The only thing that didn't come out just right was the placement of the fuel tank strap bracket. I had to reproduce a copy of the original. It came out pretty well. I think my placement was off a touch. The tank could go outboard just a 1/4" more but it's solid and the filler neck is still looking fine. So I did both sides below the tail lights, on top of the wheel arch and one spot hidden but the tank. 👍 I didn't remove the subframe. I'm watching your video and replacing ball joints.😁 Just cleaned up the hub now. I don't have new bearing or seals but they look and sound fine. A repack just be good until next winter. By that time. I'm sure I'll upgrades something and replace the bearing and seals. Don't get discouraged. Keep pushing. We can't let these little cars die.✌️🇺🇸
Isn't it strange how the drivers heal board has gone but the passenger one, the one that is in the wet gutter all the time is perfect? Some days you feel like you have not done a lot and feel deflated when really you have. Go away, grab a brew, have 5 and all is well again. Great work there Keith 👍
Perfect timing Keith. I'm stripping mine down this summer and needed to know how to do this. Done the engine before so only the front subframe to work out. Great vid
Another great video wow wish the 89 looked like that underneath! Shame about the rust on the boot floor but nothing like you say a repair panel can’t sort. 👍
Great effort, the new owner will be so happy with how far you are going! This is classic though and a warning to anyone buying second hand, it just shows unrestored minis might look good but if there's some rust there will be more and a lot of work to restore them.
Hi Keith. I wonder why most Minis have rust in that same place in the boot? The rust always seems to be in the floor corners where the subframe bolts through. Leaking boot lid, condensation, moisture coming up through the bolt holes? Issigonis certainly wasn't thinking about longevity when he engineered the Mini.
Hi Keith! Brilliant video as always! We really appreciate the step by step filming! But you made my Dad feel a little queasy with the work ahead! 🤣 Thankfully, our 1992 portuguese Rover Mini has a good subframe but the boot has holes in the same places as project Bruce but to a lesser extent! Looking forward to part 2! Hope you are keeping well and safe! José and Tony
I also totally agree with removing the underseal. My bootfloor took me 16hrs 🤯 totally worth it though. The bootfloor looks very similar to mine as rust goes. I also coming to bingley hall in March with the wife & I'll definitely look for you & come over to say hello 👋. Loved this weeks video 👍🏻
When i replaced my shell i used black waxoil on the underside it keeps the corrosion at bay but looks naff and you get covered in it when doing any work as it stays soft
Thats a lot of progress you’ve done from the clean up to the removal of the rusty areas. The hand over to the new owner is going to be a tough one when you have to part company with Project Bruce. They’ll have a great car for sure.👏
awesome vid! super helpful for me and my project as the subframe removal is next on my list.. im pretty confident your mini here is in stellar condition compared to what im going to find haha. you gained a subscriber!!
I feel your pain Keith, I have done many welding repairs on various classics over the years, sometimes it seems there is no end to it, but this Mini is looking quite solid, at least you have a lot of good metal to weld to, your doing a great job.
I was selling new BLMC product in the mid 1970s mainly Austin Morris group at London's biggest distributor. We offered purchasers a choice of 2 underbody treatments on new cars. Because. the cars then were stored on grass as they came out of the factory they were first sprayed in a hard drying wax both on top and underneath.We PDI the cars in wax then drive them to either a Ziebart station where they had all box sections drilled injected with a black bitumen tar like compound which never hardened and remained sticky- they also sprayed the whole underside with the same black sticky to the touch material. However for half that price a firm Called Metcalfe Nurse collected masked and sprayed the whole underside everything except the exhaust in a very thick hard setting dark brown compound about half an inch thick which over time became brittle .
Another great video Kieth. If you didn’t like horrible jobs you wouldn’t be working on mini’s - there’s always a horrible job hiding around the corner. It’s irritating for you as the rear is much better than it could be, but bad enough that it needs doing. As always you’re doing a proper job, not leaving it for someone else. You must have videoed almost everything - have you thought of cataloguing the jobs so they can be easily looked up - Keith’s video Manual?
What did you use to get the underseal off. Need to remove fairly new waxoil from the underside of my mini, what would you recommend. Its still oily and not brittle. The previous owner done the sills and back end and painted it with red oxide and then just waxoiled over the top so want to take it all off and paint underneath and then re waxoil it or would you just leave it? Think it would be okay? Also I've got a new pattern rear subframe forsale if your interested. Also got valance, and closing panels if you are interested Thanks William
Thanks William, I've already purchased the subframe and panels. I just used a scrapper and hammer to chip away at the underseal. It was old and brittle so came off easily. I would clean off the waxoil and re-paint. Try some brake cleaner on it, or petrol on a rag works well, but be very careful with the fumes etc.
1st BOOM. You been buying HRE IRL stuff like me have you???. Got two rust free subframes here! Not going to get very far turning the handbrake cable that way 😆
@@classicminiworkshop Don't tell the Mrs about your nuts lol. I had a T shirt of Paul and funnily enough i've got it on at the mo, really good quality and a good fit to.
Hi Keith , I'm pretty sure that people are trying some sort of scam saying contact me on you comments giving a phone number to call . Great video 👍 keep it up 🙂
Chipping off underseal is not fun , hope you didn’t get any bits in your eyes, amazing condition underneath was the norm 40/45 years ago shutz can’t remember the name of the company doing this anti corrosion coating, must be age😂😂😂
Time for a glass of wine !....Great workmanship ..
You just made my day with the brilliant idea of raising the body off and leave the subframe on the floor - instead of jacking the body and carefully lowering the subframe while trying to keep it from falling. Thank you so very much Keith!
No problem 👍
I, for one, agree with you removing the underseal. You have been so particular with other parts, and now you have removed all doubts about the rear wheel arches and under belly by removing the seal. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Cool, thanks
Well done for not giving up on the job.
Thanks for sharing, this takes away my confusion on how I’m going to remove mine!! I’m installing the upgraded subframe from MiniTec right after my bodywork!!
Rick..underseal.. Who on earth invented this?
My mini rotted out from the inside out due to bad underseal. Removed all of it, and now use stonechip.
Keith, another awesome step by step episode.
Another episode for the definitive guide for the classic mini
I so miss working on minis. 👍👍
Its a ball ache and you do feel like its not worth the effort but you would regret not getting that underseal off. And the amount of rust rot proved you right. Not excessive but enough to need finding and fixing. And its all about doing a job right.
This car has turned out to be a bit of a hidden gem. Although you wouldn't feel like that after 8 hours of graft!
It was good to see your sub-frame mounting bolts unscrewing. Mine didn't. They either snapped or had to be cut off. Keep up the good work. Hope to see you at Bingley Hall.
That wheel arch looks absolutely fab
great progress
Nice Keith.
Great video Keith! Cut it out and I’m
Sure you will easily sort it 👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Thank you for your vids , the most dreadful part is heelboard but you make it look easy
Thanks Keith, another great video. It's well worth all the hard work your putting into it. Thanks Michael.
Thanks 👍
Great step by step video! Such a shame there is so many different small rust bit all over. That heel board repair 🤦🏼♂️😂
Fantastic job Keith, it's coming along a treat & great to watch your progress
I just completed those two (I had a few more) repairs.
The closing panels under the floor were solid with only surface rust so I didn't need to replace them.
I formed the two panels myself.
The only thing that didn't come out just right was the placement of the fuel tank strap bracket. I had to reproduce a copy of the original. It came out pretty well. I think my placement was off a touch.
The tank could go outboard just a 1/4" more but it's solid and the filler neck is still looking fine.
So I did both sides below the tail lights, on top of the wheel arch and one spot hidden but the tank.
👍
I didn't remove the subframe.
I'm watching your video and replacing ball joints.😁
Just cleaned up the hub now. I don't have new bearing or seals but they look and sound fine.
A repack just be good until next winter.
By that time. I'm sure I'll upgrades something and replace the bearing and seals.
Don't get discouraged. Keep pushing.
We can't let these little cars die.✌️🇺🇸
Thanks Frank
I am amazed how fast you are doing this project mate 👍
Thanks 👍
Fantastic progress again Keith; thanks for sharing!
Many thanks
Isn't it strange how the drivers heal board has gone but the passenger one, the one that is in the wet gutter all the time is perfect? Some days you feel like you have not done a lot and feel deflated when really you have. Go away, grab a brew, have 5 and all is well again. Great work there Keith 👍
Yeah, it is a bit strange. The whole car is better on the N/S
@@classicminiworkshop Maybe it used to be a undercover left hand drive Mini 🤣
Would love to see you and the car at Bingley hall….. and yes that original paint looked great
Are you coming over Randy?
@@classicminiworkshop unfortunately not.. I would like to make the Bingley show along with London to Brighten one day....
Perfect timing Keith. I'm stripping mine down this summer and needed to know how to do this. Done the engine before so only the front subframe to work out. Great vid
Another great video wow wish the 89 looked like that underneath! Shame about the rust on the boot floor but nothing like you say a repair panel can’t sort. 👍
Working like a trojan, looking forward to seeing the finished mini at Bingley
Great effort, the new owner will be so happy with how far you are going! This is classic though and a warning to anyone buying second hand, it just shows unrestored minis might look good but if there's some rust there will be more and a lot of work to restore them.
Underseal always leaves you questioning what horrors is lurking underneath it but it's done it's job in BRU very well.
Hi Keith. I wonder why most Minis have rust in that same place in the boot? The rust always seems to be in the floor corners where the subframe bolts through. Leaking boot lid, condensation, moisture coming up through the bolt holes? Issigonis certainly wasn't thinking about longevity when he engineered the Mini.
Hi Keith! Brilliant video as always! We really appreciate the step by step filming! But you made my Dad feel a little queasy with the work ahead! 🤣 Thankfully, our 1992 portuguese Rover Mini has a good subframe but the boot has holes in the same places as project Bruce but to a lesser extent! Looking forward to part 2! Hope you are keeping well and safe! José and Tony
I also totally agree with removing the underseal. My bootfloor took me 16hrs 🤯 totally worth it though. The bootfloor looks very similar to mine as rust goes. I also coming to bingley hall in March with the wife & I'll definitely look for you & come over to say hello 👋. Loved this weeks video 👍🏻
When i replaced my shell i used black waxoil on the underside it keeps the corrosion at bay but looks naff and you get covered in it when doing any work as it stays soft
Hiya Keith-brilliant video. You are putting in some incredible work. The car is looking superb. Stay well and thankyou.
update from Australia. Tiny spider ;-) thanks for walkthrough. About to do the same with my ol' girl.
Thats a lot of progress you’ve done from the clean up to the removal of the rusty areas. The hand over to the new owner is going to be a tough one when you have to part company with Project Bruce. They’ll have a great car for sure.👏
Thanks 👍
awesome vid! super helpful for me and my project as the subframe removal is next on my list.. im pretty confident your mini here is in stellar condition compared to what im going to find haha. you gained a subscriber!!
Thanks, welcome along.
I feel your pain Keith, I have done many welding repairs on various classics over the years, sometimes it seems there is no end to it, but this Mini is looking quite solid, at least you have a lot of good metal to weld to, your doing a great job.
nice 👍
What if you loosen the brake line there and you have brake fluid coming from it?
Either drain the fluid or blank off the pipe while working on it
Invest in a needle gun. Makes brittle under-seal removal a doddle!
That's a good idea, I was googling them after I done the job. I might get one for future jobs, I'm sure it would make it light work
I was selling new BLMC product in the mid 1970s mainly Austin Morris group at London's biggest distributor. We offered purchasers a choice of 2 underbody treatments on new cars. Because. the cars then were stored on grass as they came out of the factory they were first sprayed in a hard drying wax both on top and underneath.We PDI the cars in wax then drive them to either a Ziebart station where they had all box sections drilled injected with a black bitumen tar like compound which never hardened and remained sticky- they also sprayed the whole underside with the same black sticky to the touch material. However for half that price a firm Called Metcalfe Nurse collected masked and sprayed the whole underside everything except the exhaust in a very thick hard setting dark brown compound about half an inch thick which over time became brittle .
Thanks Richard, that is interesting to know. It certainly looks like it was coated from new.
Another great video Kieth. If you didn’t like horrible jobs you wouldn’t be working on mini’s - there’s always a horrible job hiding around the corner. It’s irritating for you as the rear is much better than it could be, but bad enough that it needs doing. As always you’re doing a proper job, not leaving it for someone else. You must have videoed almost everything - have you thought of cataloguing the jobs so they can be easily looked up - Keith’s video Manual?
No, I've not really though of that but it sounds like a good idea!
What did you use to get the underseal off. Need to remove fairly new waxoil from the underside of my mini, what would you recommend. Its still oily and not brittle. The previous owner done the sills and back end and painted it with red oxide and then just waxoiled over the top so want to take it all off and paint underneath and then re waxoil it or would you just leave it? Think it would be okay?
Also I've got a new pattern rear subframe forsale if your interested. Also got valance, and closing panels if you are interested
Thanks
William
Thanks William, I've already purchased the subframe and panels. I just used a scrapper and hammer to chip away at the underseal. It was old and brittle so came off easily. I would clean off the waxoil and re-paint. Try some brake cleaner on it, or petrol on a rag works well, but be very careful with the fumes etc.
@@classicminiworkshop that's very useful. Very kind of you!
Thankyou 🙂
1st BOOM. You been buying HRE IRL stuff like me have you???. Got two rust free subframes here! Not going to get very far turning the handbrake cable that way 😆
You noticed the handbrake cable LOL, well spotted! Paul at HRE done such a great job on my nuts, I thought it only fair to buy some merch :)
@@classicminiworkshop Don't tell the Mrs about your nuts lol. I had a T shirt of Paul and funnily enough i've got it on at the mo, really good quality and a good fit to.
Do you do repairs on other peoples minis or just your own?
Only my own cars, I don't get time for anything else
Hi Keith , I'm pretty sure that people are trying some sort of scam saying contact me on you comments giving a phone number to call . Great video 👍 keep it up 🙂
Thanks, Ill report it and start deleting the comments
Chipping off underseal is not fun , hope you didn’t get any bits in your eyes, amazing condition underneath was the norm 40/45 years ago shutz can’t remember the name of the company doing this anti corrosion coating, must be age😂😂😂