SUPER Supertuscan Tasting - Opening Sassicaia, Tignanello and Lucente
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I use this wine key: Laguiole en Aubrac Wine Key Ebony
I have used this glass in this Video: Gabriel Glas StandArt
I have used this decanter in this Video: cheap Erlenmeyer flask
I have tasted the following wines in this Video:
2018 Luce Lucente Frescobaldi Toscana Italy:
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2001 Marchesi Antinori Tignanello Toscana IGT Tuscany, Italy:
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2004 Tenuta San Guido Sassicaia Bolgheri, Tuscany, Italy:
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The 100 Point Scoring System (from www.robertparker.com):
96-100: An extraordinary wine of profound and complex character displaying all the attributes expected of a classic wine of its variety. Wines of this caliber are worth a special effort to find, purchase and consume.
90 - 95: An outstanding wine of exceptional complexity and character. In short, these are terrific wines.
80 - 89: A barely above average to very good wine displaying various degrees of finesse and flavor as well as character with no noticeable flaws.
70 - 79: An average wine with little distinction except that it is soundly made. In essence, a straightforward, innocuous wine.
60 - 69: A below-average wine containing noticeable deficiencies, such as excessive acidity and/or tannin, an absence of flavor or possibly dirty aromas or flavors.
50 - 59: A wine deemed to be unacceptable.
In 1978, Decanter Magazine held a Cabernet tasting of 34 Bordeaux blends from around the world and the winner was a pretty unknown wine called Sassicaia that was released for the first time only a few years earlier.
This was the start of the Supertuscan movement that developed because a small group of winemakers was fed up with the restrictive DOC regulations in Tuscany. The old-world wine laws are great when it comes to protecting winemaking traditions but they can stifle innovation and some winemakers decided that they didn’t care for the DOC label and made wine outside of the system.
Some thought they could improve the quality of Chianti by leaving out the previously obligatory white grapes from the blend and making pure Sangiovese. Others used international grape varieties like Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot to either complement their autochthonous grape varieties or to make Bordeaux blends in Tuscany.
It is a bit unclear who coined the term Supertuscan. Some say it was the wine writer Burt Anderson and some believe it was Master of Wine« Nicolas Belfrage what is clear though is that it stuck and that these wines helped to improve the quality and perception of Italian wine overall. Today DOCs have been created and wine laws have been changed to include these Supertuscans in the official classification as some of them are amongst the best and most expensive wines from Italy.
Went to the Antinori wine bar in Florence mid-90s, it was brilliant. They had aged (10-15 yr old) bottles of Tig by the glass! Older bottles available to buy, drink in the bar with food menu. Heaven.
Fantastic enoteca pinchiorri❤
Hi I'm Konstantin Baum, Master of wine and today......why is it that that sentence soothes me so much
Thanks Konstantin for showcasing my country so greatly !
I appreciate the details on decanting and maintaining the decanter!
Excellent tasting Konstantin! Great wines and nice to know how the older vintages are evolving. Cheers 🥂
So excited to see this video! I’ve been waiting for this one
Loved the super Tuscan tasting.. Had the Tignallo 2018 recently and could not believe how well it was drinking... Brilliant stuff 👌🍷
Sunday is fast becoming my favourite day because of new Konstantin videos!
I have loved Bolgheri wines since visiting last year but I’m a little over ‘international grape’ wines. There are so many Italian varieties to try and you won’t find them anywhere else!
The longer i follow you the more I enjoy your content. I love your passion.These and Nebbiolo wines are without a doubt my favorite styles of red. It brings me back to the time I spent in Italy. If only I could figure out how to stay there, just for the wine haha.
Enjoyed the video! Thanks for adding in a value wine with this tasting! At 23.99 I will definitely try the Lucente.
I have enjoyed your videos and especially this one. I recognized your elegant carafe as one of my old research lab friends, the one liter narrow necked Erlenmeyer flask.
I really like both Tignanello (especially) and Sassicaia, but I have to say there is nothing like a good Brunello 😀
Sure ! 10' 15' or 16'
Ahah! I always wonder abt this because SuperT maybe much more expensive but it is not DOCG.
I totally agree. Brunello is brilliant. Fortunately I have some bottles from 2015 and 2016 in my cellar, and I''m really looking forward to drinking them during the next years/decades. My favourite right now: Altesino.
@@DaMueff omg, altesino is the best! Not many people know the brand. I came across a basic brunello from altesino 2007 and they sell less then 100USD. I think it was a mistake
@@DaMueff BruneIIo ages very weII, that's both a strength and a weakeness, young it doesn't give its best but with 4-5+ years of aging reaIIy shines; I bought 6 bottIes of Banfi 2017 a coupIe of years ago, can't wait to open one
good reviews, thanks! my favourite “Super Tuscan” is the Flaccianello from Fontodi, which is actually … 100% Sangiovese! 😀
Great video! Super Tuscans from Bolgheri are some of my favorite wines. Cheers 🍷
Great Review, utmost appreciated
sassicaia, my dream... amazing videos konstantin, keep up the great work!
more supers!! great vid , thank you
Love your video, my friend! Hope to see you tasting some good Brazilian wines! Cheers!
Great video. Learned some new stuff about super Tuscan wines. These wines used to offer great value, although that has changed dramatically over time 😢 which is inevitable I suppose but nonetheless regrettable for those of us on a budget. I used to see Tig on the menu down the street at the local pizza restaurant- priced within reach.
Tried Tignanello once, would love to be able to afford them more! You are a lucky man that makes me love my wine journey even more! I'll definitely stay thirsty!
Love these wines! I visited Bolgheri in 2004 so might have said hello to the grapes in that bottle of Sassicaia.
First. And a long waited video. Really ended up being a big fan of super tuscans :)
Here sipping a Cornas 2008 domaine vincent paris grannit 60. Lovely.
I think I preferred the older intro btw. Congrats on the YT success and keep goin !
I have all 3 of them in cellar at work, different vintages though. including Luce 2017 and Antinori Guado al Tasso 2013. Super proud of this shelf
I didn‘t know Luce, and will certainly look for it. It had quite a few Tignanellos, always a delight, and I had quite a few Ornellaias from the 80ties at that time. I‘ve never tasted Solaia, however, which also belongs to the club.
Had a bottle of Sassicaia for my 50th birthday: it's good, but perhaps I'm not enough of an expert to fully appreciate it.
I think I'll stick with Brunello, Barolo and above all Amarone 🙂
I bought a 2009 Castello dei Rampolla Sammarco on a whim and kept it for a few years before opening it in 2018. Great bottle of wine! 🍷After that I have started adding a few more bottles of super Tuscans to the cellar.
very nice, sir. I recently acquired a bottle of tignanello. It has yet to arrive ^_^ so I am excited ....to put it in my winecooler for a couple of years haha
I’d never refuse the offer of a glass of Tig but having done a vertical comparatively recently of ~8, the difference between the years was very marked. Most were classically gorgeous but a couple fell a bit flat; it could have been bottle variation but there were multiple bottles of each vintage from different cellars and they were consistent. Sassicaia I have also found to be somewhat variable.
Have drunk 2 cases of the Lucente 2016! one of my go to Italian wines especially at the price.
Also tried the 2016 Tignanello in half bottle...sublime!
Super Tuscans have become one of my favorite wines
I've day-dreamed about drinking a well known Super Tuscan like these, since IGTs are consistently my favorite wines, next to a good Brunello. Maybe do some Brunello comparisons some day? Thanks for sharing!
Tignanello is actually one of my absolute favorite of all times. I'm very passionate about this specific wine. It checks all the boxes for me, so inexpensively... I had the chance to taste every vintages at least twice since the 1989. Never ever been disappointed, except for the 2014. The only problem with this wine is that since the 2015 vintage it has become extremely hard to put my hands on a couple of cases, I have to pay a big premium to get them now, sometimes through a broker, in fact every year when they arrive it's even worse than iPhones in Apple stores circa 2009. Obviously my Tiganello collection alone went from 11K to 24K in just 3 years only because people have been waking up seriously about Tignanello it seems. Ten years ago (or so) I was able to buy a Tignanello just before putting a Wagyu Tajima on the grill, now I have a 20 minute window at midnight every year to buy as much as I can when it gets released to the market where I live (Canada). This wine is obviously absolutely beautiful, but I don't understand the madness around it since 2015... it quadrupled in price since the 2015 vintage, it's not an accessible gem anymore sadly. It's still the best wine to have with a beautiful bistecca alla Fiorentina at sunset though. Every year we are gifting ourselves with a tasting of Flacianello, Tignanello & Sassicaia with great steaks before preparing our cases to lay dow for aging, and it's always one of the best evening of the year. It's gonna be the 15th year that we do this and we have been so excited about this evening every year that we are adding a 5 consecutive years vertical tasting of Yquem after the meal this year. We are going to be fucking drunk and emotional on this evening let me tell you!
Holy Cow Dude what province are u in?
@@waynesorensen7071 The worst of them all mate, QC, where too much people turned lobotomized rocks and are voting for the ahole Crime Minister we are metastasized with since 2015... I wish I lived in Alberta where my values are much more aligned with Danielle Smith, but, as a French guy living in one of the most diseased and woke place on earth, at least I have the biggest wine importer on the planet to help me forget about how disgusting our country has become thanks to all those diseased leftists parasites.
And, Konstantin : oh yes , it was a funny and very okay line-up! Solche Proben machen immer wieder Spass.
I was offered last week to buy Sassicaia, a tad too expensive to buy as I had never heard of it. Now I will consider your rating 😀
I really enjoyed the video! I hope you taste another super tuscan wine, Testamatta rosso from Bibi Graetz. In some South Korean wine communities, there has been some controversy about the Testamatta’s quality recently. Some people say it’s overrated by some critics. I haven’t tasted the wine yet and I’m curious about the taste and the quality. I wish you could give some objective opinion about the wine! Thanks! 😊
wow, 2004 and still young (the Sassicaia) 👀. There is a 2003 in a restaurant nearby. I hope it's still there when i'm able to order.
thanks for the content
loved the 2004 Sas still have a couple of 2009 highly recommended!!
need a few of these...
These 3 are great wines and I am very impressed by the Lucente as it is a great wine for a great price! Drinking Sassicaia though is as close to euphoria as you can get! I am sure God drinks Sassicaia! Super Tuscans are my absolute favorite!
San Guido and Ornellaia are two of the best producers world wide imo
Fermented fruit juice. Amazing how complex and interesting this can be.
We had a magnum of Tignanello 2015 with some friends a couple of weeks ago. It tasted delicous with some Hereford côte à l'os, the more so that the bottle was a gift and we didn't have to pay for it!
I have tried reddigaffi, siepi and caia rossa, all great super tuscans!
Have you done a video on Veneto yet? I'm curious about what you may think of Producers like Quintarelli, Del Forno and Zyme.
My wife and I had our honeymoon in Venice in 1993, and we had Sassicaia and Solaia at restaurants. Unfortunately I did not write down the vintages, but both were great. 😊
I am glad we had them then, because we could not afford them today. 🙁
In 2011, I tasted my first Tignanello-a 2004-and I was a bit underwhelmed, so I have not gravitated towards it.
However, just this spring I was presented with a 2019 Tignanello at a tasting, and it was absolutely amazing! I splurged and bought 2 bottles. A high 90’s score for me definitely.
Just this weekend I had the 2019 Antinori Chianti Classico Reserva Tenuta Tignanello, and it was also really nice-not quite like THE Tignanello, but a great value for less than 1/3 the price, and a good pick for drinking now while the big brother sleeps for a few years.
Dude! That Tignanello was one of the first wines that ever made me go "huh there's more to this". Excellent wine and fun episode!
Yeah, I like supertuscans. Less known goods can rival the bigger ones in my opinion. I also love the cuvées that contain Syrah and/or Petit Verdot.
well said
Aged Luce and Solaia are my favorites! Blending Sangiovese is something I want to taste when it comes to Super Tuscans ;)
Very nice video. Anyway you could do a amarone tasting from Italy ?
Fantastic videos and I’m a big fan! Just utterly curious - if a superstar like Sassicaia is 95 points, what would a 100-pointer wine be in your opinion?
love supertuscan
People like to poo poo on Tignanello but I still enjoy it, the wine ages nicely, and it’s impressive how good the wine is with they scale they make it at… I’ve been fooled several times in blind tastings with Sassicaia.
Hi Konstantin, love your videos and the opportunity to get a glimpse of how true professionals taste and experience wine. I was wondering what you do with all the opened bottles on this channels; do you share with others behind the camera, do you have a way of taking care of the wine so you can enjoy it later, or do you have to pour it out/drink it at once, like the rest of us? Keep the videos coming, cheers!
I share them with staff, friends and family. If I one to keep them I put a little Argon gas on top and put the cork back in
Would love to hear the price of those bottles in the video. Really interesting video nevertheless! Thanks for making this great wine content!
Hi I'm not sure if the info is accurate but I saw Merlot 75 %, Sangiovese 25 % for the Luce Lucente. Never tried it so I'm going to grab a couple bottles this week. Cheers and thank you for those videos you put out.
Tignanello was a profound experience for me
How did you find those wines with such age on them? Thanks again for the great video.
Appreciate the hyper short intro, more time for wine knowledge
Hej Constantion, is there a reason that you have changed glassware? Best regards keep it up
Did you make this video because I commented on your instagram about wanting to see a Super Tuscan tasting? 😂 or did you already plan it? Either way, fantastic video! Super Tuscans are among my favourites!
I saw a comment about the winery Poggio al Tesoro praising their wines and I have to say, my favourite Bolgheri wines for sure! The winery is right in the middle of the Tenuta san Guido, Ornellaia and Guado al Tasso triangle and they also have great heritage (Allegrini in Veneto). Have you tried them Konstantin?
Love your content!
I've had Tig several times, Barolo as well, along with countless bottles of various producers of sangiovese all while touring Italy. I've enjoyed them all (to varying degrees) but by far my HEART BELONGS TO Brunello di Montalchino!
Now, Sassicaia might be better but that $270.00. (U.S.) price tag per bottle keeps me from finding out -:)
....if only I could win a lottery
One of the best wines I've tasted so far was the 2009 Solaia. Absolutely delicious! However, when it comes to the price point, there are by far more interesting alternatives out there. Especially Sassicaia, Solaia, Ornellaia are ridicously expensive, not to mention Masseto. So these bottles will be always once-in-a-lifetime experiences for me.
Can you name some of these alternatives?
In Italy: Il Bruciato or Loto, for example. Or try Chilean or Argentinan Bordeaux-Blends. They can offer great value for money.
@@DaMueff thanks, I am going to check them. Bruciato seems like a very good recommendation.
You had in one evening three wines that I might taste in one life 😅. Thanks for sharing anyway, great contents as usual
@@stvo2009 You were wordy aber kind of right. Next Raise I'm going to buy a Sassicaia. Best ;)
An undersung movement of the wine world! I enjoy cheaper versions of these awesome classics
There's 100s of blends and styles similar and different. Sangiovese based is common, blend wise these are fun. The IGT Veronese blends are fun too especially with rippasso/appassiamento techniques applied. These vary with each winery, palazzo Della Torre is nice but allegrini has high end types too.
Now we need Super Edition Super Supertuscans
I spent some time in Montalcino and enjoyed the many fine wines. I however have not yet tried any of these three. I think I will start with the 2019 Tignanello. Q: what do you do with all the wines you end up tasting?
Hmmm - I have a 2010 tignanello in the cellar and will try it with a high end Oz Shiraz tomorrow - I did not know what a supertuscan was…thanks Konstantin🙃
For god's sake please, please decant and allow at least an hour before you plan to drink it. Ideally allow 3-4 hours. Also consider your glass choice. I like the Riedel Vinum Bordeaux with all Tuscan wines but play about to see what works for you. Hope you enjoy a fine vintage of a wonderful wine.
@@sinclairwhitbourne2090 It’s going this evening w a 93’ Rockford Basket press Shiraz…and I suspect they’ll both match w rare eye fillet. As to the glass, riedel but no idea on type; although a jam jar would probably suffice 😀.
Kanstantin! Planning our first trip to Tuscany (Florence, Chianti, Montelcino) for our honeymoon in October. Any top recommendations for wineries to visit while we're there? Thanks for any expert intel!
The only Super Tuscan I have had was the Mazzei Siepi 2021. I guess it was too young to drink? Im a total beginner and bought it out of curiosity and to serve it with 5 other wines as a fun style blind tasting at my birthday. The other "big" wine at the tasting was Torbreck, The Factor 2019 - an absolutely stunning super dense and inky pure Shiraz. My favourite so far.
Great timing! We just finished a one week Tuscany Wine trip and had some great wines.
What do you think of the Prima Pietra super tuscan?
I have never tasted it.
Super Tuscans are great, it just seems that there's only two categories. The iconic OG ones that cost a lot and on the other hand mass produces plonk with high stores from Luca Moroni.
This has been my experience here in Taiwan/Asia. I am guessing that in Europe and other places there's more diversity.
Great video, let's see it I can get lucky and getting myself hands on some mid-range Super Tuscan style Bolgheri reds.
Yeah, there's definitely more to them. I tasted a few IGT blends in Tuscany that were delicious and didn't break the bank. In the end I enjoyed them more than the slew of Chianti classicos that I had, which end up quite similar to one another because of how restrictive the DOCG rules are.
We have a bottle of 2017 Tignanello. Wondering how long to lay it down for and what will be the best drinking window?
Congratulations for your explanation, I advise you as a winemaker and as a Tuscan to try some wines from the Maremma area (Grosseto) "Montecucco sangiovese Assolati" (2015)
and Chianti Riserva "Villa Paternino" (2016) Pistoia (upper Tuscany)
I love super Tuscans. They are a little rare here in Ohio, but I’ve never had a bad one.
I’d love to see you taste a selection, if this is even possible, of wines made from grapes the Romans used. I’ve read some contemporary writers discussing wine and even vintages. Does anyone today age in amphora?
Unfortunately, most, if not all, of the grapes used during the Roman period no longer exist. They have since morphed into other varieties that we now see today.
Regarding amphora, there are quite a few producers currently using amphora aging vessels all over the world. The most famous use is probably the Kvevri of Georgia, but producers from Josko Gravner in Friuli to Michel Magnien in Burgundy to even Sonoma-Cutrer in California all utilize amphorae.
There’s mamertino that you should try! it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamertino. Unfortunately the Wikipedia page is not available in english. That is supposed to be Julius Caesar favorite wine (mentioned in de bello Gallico). Of course it is impossible to say if it is Made exactly as it was, but I really enjoyed a botte a few months ago.
On Sideways, 88 Sasacaia was the bottle that did UT for Mya
You have a very squeeky chair! But another super interesting video😍
Hey I'd decant all of these but thats my opinion fer all high end wines. Lucky gentleman, I only tried this becuase nice clientele left me half a glass one night. The absolute best way to learn about wine, the clientele!!
I very much like Giodo Brunello, 2015 and 2016 stand out and are very high quality. Ever got the chance to taste Giodo Konstantin?
Love super tuscans! I tend to drink them young, most of them (Sassicaia, Tignanello are exceptions) don't tend to age well.
Love the Super Tuscans. Alas, as they are discovered by the world the prices are skyrocketing :(
Although I hear they are very pricey for its quality and quite hard to come by. But I would love it if you could do a video on Ningxia in China? I've heard many great (and not so great) things about the up and coming Chinese wine industry. I'm truly fascinated how countries like China, England and Mexico will shape the future of the wine world.
Hello Konstantin!
Thx for all your videos! They ’re becoming addictive to me…
I’m curious about you comparing a Tignanello with a Grattamacco sup. How far would the score be?
Cheers!
Depending on the vintage on the same level to higher
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Thank you for your answer.
Buddy! I get all of this but what about the price point compared to them? The last one is of course more intense
After the videos what do you do with all the opened bottles? Just drink them all with your staff?
Hey Konstantin. I am from Germany and live in Nelson. I love great wine but am far from an expert. I am thinking of joining one of these wine clubs that send you packages. you know NZ. are those any good? do you have some other advice how to get good wines around the 20 to 40 nzd mark without playing the supermarket gamble? cheers from aotearoa, Michael
Hello hello, it is me, the Czech wine tasting reminder guy.
Hallo Hr. Baum könnten Sie vielleicht einmal Cosimo Taurino Patriglione Riserva probieren. Dieser Wein hat es mir seit den 70er Jahren sehr angetan.
Out of these 3, which has the best cork quality? One that does not split and is easy to open even if it’s aged 10 years +?
2001!!!!! that's my birth year. super jealous.
Question : as you don’t use corivin, what do you do after the production ? Call some friends to a dinner ? That should be lovely ! Cheers !
I share it with staff, friends and family
Hey, everyone-there’s PARTY at Konstantin’s house!😂
Hallo Herr Baum
Wenn ich zu einem besonderen Anlass einmal einen Top Wein trinken möchte, würden Sie mir da eher zum Sassicaia oder zu Solaia raten? Vielen Dank für Ihre Rückmeldung. Beste Grüsse
Some more value super tuscans that i enjoy are monteti's monteti and their caburnio. Also, brancaia ilatraia is another good one....used to buy their il blu but too expensive now (ilatraia is close)
How long do you think it would be moderate for the decanting?
Hi Konstantin. Despite I put the subtitles on I couldn't understand the sub region you were saying about Sassicaia: the subtitles said 'bogary, bulgary and burglary.' I'm Italian and I couldn't get what you were referring to. Would you mind letting us know? Many thanks
I have to say I’m more of a Barolo / Barbersco type but my favorite super tuscan is Solaia for sure.