This is the email response i received from Horizon when i asked if the morons at my local hobby shop blew up the ESC in my new Outcast 8S v2 after they told me it wouldn't work with the V2 card. Good Morning, The ESC itself is not defective, We ask that you use the factory programming as are updating our Beta programmer and Programming app to be used with the newer ESCs. Until this update, these ESCs will not be able to connect to the programmer card. You can use the "push button" method if you need to change any ESC settings. Note, that the factory settings are the recommended settings for this ESC. Best Regards, Jason Product Support Air and Surface Specialist Horizon Hobby, LLC
Yes to me that seems kinda shi++y to release product and it NOT have a way to tune it with the programmer card they sell. Yes I understand OTB that the ESC is programmed how it should be then why sell the card? Like I've said prior you have to WATCH the Arrma produced videos and THAT'S how they intend you to run the RC👍💯🤟
@@rcguygaragewell they get our $30 bucks every time we buy one, i got the v1 & v2 cards and i was told the same thing , use the button on esc to program settings for esc 🤦♂️
Was so tempted today to grab it! I think my wife is going to get the Mojave 4S. So I just played it cool. I did grab a Grom though and about to rip it for the first time. Thanks for the content GUY Lol 👊🏼
I almost forgot to mention this. This is why i watch your videos daily, because you're not a dope, you always provide intelligent commentary on and advice on RC's, i even bought Hobao Hyper MT Sport Plus because of your videos, even though now it's being parted out lol. Now, i have to find a hobby wing card lol.
Yeahhh Guy!!! Big Rock.. I'm on my 3s converted to 6s but love this review and the content.. binge watching all your episodes at work # notonepack.. lets gooo!
@@rcguygarage well the original big rock is one of my favorites and everyone crying about this been pretty much the fire team but I don't see it at all me and Dave from hardcore rc argued for 2 days him trying to test me on esc difference and such
Ya Iam going to do the same, i think u get more update stuff on the new Kraton RTR EXB, don’t get me wrong new BR looks tight, very cool video guy 😉💪🏽💯
@@rcguygarage do you ever go scalloping wher you live in mass allot of Peale make good money. Just wondering guy I live in Maine rockland and I’ve gone down to mass and did some lumping anyways your vids are kick ass keep em coming
This is a bad as they sell you a stupid 25 dollar cable to update dx5c and they still havent fixed the modes on the Promoto wheelie is street and street is wheelie came on this is all Spektrum does is electronics how do they release this and not have an update for the programmer. Seems like from the other comment get ready for v3. tempted to try the hobby wing but after that guy said the hobby shop blew up his esc I dont know good info.
People are saying EXACT and from what I've seen it's not EXACT never said it wasn't similar. Part numbers are different between the Fire team and this particular chassis. Your not missing anything. Hey at one point Camaro and Firebird came off the same assembly line just got different "treatments" until they realized it was too confusing for the workers so that charged VERY QUICKLY. but hey I'm just a hack here maybe I'm wrong about everything😂🤣😜👍💯🤟
Good DONT use that balance lead locker. If you ever crash and your battery straps break your balance leads will be ripped off. I mean if you crash that hard you got other things to worry about but let’s not add more to the damage you know 😂
I love you man you know a lot about RC so I’ll go to you if it comes to anybody because you know a lot about RC cause you got a lot of them you’re probably got over 200 of them
@@rcguygarage Guy I'll probably go faster on 4s than anything you own haha 😄 but with that being said love the videos you Def make me laugh every video.
@@rcguygarageGuy first you start with Jinks then add the fire 🔥 sounds like an epic run. When you getting a limitless and hitting the speed jump spot? Hopefully soon ya know
@@lukerecore You know what You're not saying at least you're not saying it in this comment line what do you think about this truck man just from visual because I got to tell you the visual doesn't know justice
After the new kraton exb came out this thing is overpriced AF. I predict its going to fail just like the fireteam. Insane sales will come soon on it because theres going to be lack of sales. Tried to revive the 6s bigrock name and if it remains at 700$ it aint going to do well. They should have learned that making a expensive scale body on a basher wasnt a good idea with the fireteam and they repeated the same thing with this one. A simple molded lexan body like on the Nero version would have been sufficient and 600$ would have been a great price or mojave pricing.
My god just use the manual or memorize the sequance. This is just lazyness at this point. I even see kevin talbot not able to read for 2 secs the manual and easily increase the brakes. It sickens me. I do have a program card that come with my max8 i do use it sometime on the max 8 for comvenience but gee is is hard to have a 6s manual in ur backpack or car?? Im lasy nut im not THAT lazy. Also internet exists and you can find the manual there...
Guy this was a cool video and i will definitely be adding the Red or Black B-16 to my Fleet when the time is right as at the moment i have bought so many Rc's in the past 5 months ill be sleeping on the sofa if i was to buy another just yet maybe next month Guy
Yes I know that couch all too well😂🤣😂🤣 jk . Look at it this way, you COULD be out at the bars getting wasted every night OR you could be going to strip joints but NOPE you choose to be more wise and have something to show for your spending😂🤣😜
Dude Thank you , Guy that's exactly what i say too 100% ,You know whom else gets the Blame Guy ? My Fellow You Tube Creators like Yourself, Earl and some others cause apparently i watch their content and then 5/10 ill buy whats on show and thats not true at all i only buy 7/10 Guy . 🤣🤣@@rcguygarage
I had the big rock 3S I sold it but I wish I kept it man that thing brand like a beast now I’m bout to buy the big rock 6S I’m getting the end of this month January 2024 array put $550 down I only owe $225 more. I’ll pay that off and this month that’s my Christmas and birthday gift because my birthday is January 3 so I love the big rock three yes I sold it. I wish I kept it but I’m getting the success eventually probably will get another three ass big rock though cause I missed it but I’m getting Big rock 6S I can’t wait to get that
This is the email response i received from Horizon when i asked if the morons at my local hobby shop blew up the ESC in my new Outcast 8S v2 after they told me it wouldn't work with the V2 card.
Good Morning,
The ESC itself is not defective,
We ask that you use the factory programming as are updating our Beta programmer and Programming app to be used with the newer ESCs.
Until this update, these ESCs will not be able to connect to the programmer card.
You can use the "push button" method if you need to change any ESC settings.
Note, that the factory settings are the recommended settings for this ESC.
Best Regards,
Jason
Product Support
Air and Surface Specialist
Horizon Hobby, LLC
Yes to me that seems kinda shi++y to release product and it NOT have a way to tune it with the programmer card they sell. Yes I understand OTB that the ESC is programmed how it should be then why sell the card? Like I've said prior you have to WATCH the Arrma produced videos and THAT'S how they intend you to run the RC👍💯🤟
@@rcguygaragewell they get our $30 bucks every time we buy one, i got the v1 & v2 cards and i was told the same thing , use the button on esc to program settings for esc 🤦♂️
Always keeping it 💯. Unbiased reviews and not promoting personal favorites.A++🤙🏽
Welllllll ummm I did say I might be a little BIASED cause of Big Black 😂🤣😂🤣 but yes thank you👍💯🤟
@@rcguygarage Big Black is the exception,nothing comes close. Lol..
but, you kept it 💯by your admission ✌🏽
Good to know , I'll do the same tuning with my Big Rock 6s
Awe HELL NO you still need to know what the items and values are.😂🤣
Guy you're making a whole lot of good video thank you for helping out your The hobby shop Cool rc guy garage 👍👍💯
Was so tempted today to grab it! I think my wife is going to get the Mojave 4S. So I just played it cool. I did grab a Grom though and about to rip it for the first time. Thanks for the content GUY Lol 👊🏼
I almost forgot to mention this. This is why i watch your videos daily, because you're not a dope, you always provide intelligent commentary on and advice on RC's, i even bought Hobao Hyper MT Sport Plus because of your videos, even though now it's being parted out lol. Now, i have to find a hobby wing card lol.
Thanks!
THANKS FOR BEING YOU APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO GUY THANKS
Guy .You dont get a manual ,you get 100 bucks worth of bar codes.Wish you well to run it ,i remember how much you liked the 3s version.✌️
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 YES and that card was PLASTIC😂🤣😂🤣
Yeahhh Guy!!! Big Rock.. I'm on my 3s converted to 6s but love this review and the content.. binge watching all your episodes at work # notonepack.. lets gooo!
TEAM #not1pack 😜 it's a real thing GUY
10 is punch 11 is drag brake on one card on another 10 is over heat protection 11 is motor rotation 12 is cell count, i guess it depends on the card
Thanks for this video guy my Facebook groups have been fighting over this n I'm bout to share this
The chassis I think is MO-JA-VEE EXB-ish cause it's not exact to the Fire team but close enough. 👍💯
@@rcguygarage well the original big rock is one of my favorites and everyone crying about this been pretty much the fire team but I don't see it at all me and Dave from hardcore rc argued for 2 days him trying to test me on esc difference and such
@@thatguych2 in the end people will argue over BS and instead I'm out there RIPPING RCS😂🤣😂🤣 cause I could care less about all that other garbage
@@rcguygarage exactly it's a freaking toy at the end of the day
@@thatguych2 yep and with that your supposed to be having FUN
GREAT LOOKIN TRUCK. 🤙🤙🤙🤙
It is cause you can go from the MALL CRAWL to FULL BLOWN RIP off road 👍💯😜
@@rcguygarage AND RIP IT DOES 🤘🤘🤘
Hey RC Guy what day were you at Hobby Quarters talking about the new big rock 6S -- Are You going to get one Yourself hope to hear back from you Sir.
I was there this last Wednesday right before TURKEY DAY 🦃 hope you're doing well 👍💯
So, is there a program box for this Black Edition ESC??
I pinned a comment above that explains the programmer issue
@@rcguygarage ok Thanks
B-16 will live on 😮
That's what it is from NOW ON GUY
the B-16 SEMA Truck Gang
Easy buddy. Rubbing the big rocks chassis like that… that’s how the 3s big rock was made 😂😂😂😂
Why do you think I left it in😂🤣😜 don't get all BROKE BACK MOUNTAIN on me here guy it's just a new RC🤣😂
@@rcguygarage lmaooooo
I got the B16 v3 on Monday but have to wait until Xmas to open 😢 The 6s looks spectacular 👀
👍BOOM🤟 B-16 SEMA TRUCK SQUAD 😜
@@rcguygarage UPDATE- I get to open it Today 🙃
@@jimpalazzolo6013 WOW‼️💯🤟 You must be EXCITED😜
@@rcguygarage I am!! Thanks for all the excellent content!!!👍
@@jimpalazzolo6013 👍💯👊 GUY I'm just out here to have fun just like you
thank you for the content. I'm going for the new kraton
Nice 👍 good choice in RC fun
Ya Iam going to do the same, i think u get more update stuff on the new Kraton RTR EXB, don’t get me wrong new BR looks tight, very cool video guy 😉💪🏽💯
Another killer video! B-16 all the way! 🤣👍🔥
HELL YEAH BROTHER 👍💯🤟
This truck is mint I like it and will be getting one asap lol
I like your line of thinking NOW GET IT DONE SON
@@rcguygarage do you ever go scalloping wher you live in mass allot of Peale make good money. Just wondering guy I live in Maine rockland and I’ve gone down to mass and did some lumping anyways your vids are kick ass keep em coming
im getting the body an the mounts and converting my xl
NICE 👍💯
I wonder if a guy can buy just the body and mount it on the fireteam? I think it would be neat to put a different body on my fireteam!
I don't see that being a problem at👍💯 just money😳
I really like it , But ... my Fireteam is such a blast . I won't get one .
And you shouldn't👍💯
Boom 🎉🎉🎉
I am a fan of your channel... lol
🤣😂👍💯
They must’ve changed the manual because I got a Big Rock manual in mine.
They didn't. Some got generic others got actual👍
This is a bad as they sell you a stupid 25 dollar cable to update dx5c and they still havent fixed the modes on the Promoto wheelie is street and street is wheelie came on this is all Spektrum does is electronics how do they release this and not have an update for the programmer. Seems like from the other comment get ready for v3. tempted to try the hobby wing but after that guy said the hobby shop blew up his esc I dont know good info.
Hey Guy, if chassi isn't the same why does M2C have the same chassi under(Big Rock, Fireteam & Mojave)🤔 Am I missing something??
People are saying EXACT and from what I've seen it's not EXACT never said it wasn't similar. Part numbers are different between the Fire team and this particular chassis. Your not missing anything. Hey at one point Camaro and Firebird came off the same assembly line just got different "treatments" until they realized it was too confusing for the workers so that charged VERY QUICKLY. but hey I'm just a hack here maybe I'm wrong about everything😂🤣😜👍💯🤟
@@rcguygarage I'll find out after I taco 🌮 that chassi like I did on my Fireteam's💥🚀... Lol😂🤣👍🏼💯
@@suncityrc915 🌮 for you🤣😂
Good DONT use that balance lead locker. If you ever crash and your battery straps break your balance leads will be ripped off. I mean if you crash that hard you got other things to worry about but let’s not add more to the damage you know 😂
GOOD POINT😂🤣
I love you man you know a lot about RC so I’ll go to you if it comes to anybody because you know a lot about RC cause you got a lot of them you’re probably got over 200 of them
Just bought a GSN not one pack encapsulator. For my Full scorched rc duel gt limitless Ya know. Wish me luck
Oh dang you just TRYING TO JINKS your speed run son 😂🤣👍😜
@@rcguygarage Guy I'll probably go faster on 4s than anything you own haha 😄 but with that being said love the videos you Def make me laugh every video.
@@TurtleRc you may be absolutely correct but GUY you don't want to CRASH AND BURN that ENCAPSULATOR ain't 🔥 proof 🤣😂
@@rcguygarageGuy first you start with Jinks then add the fire 🔥 sounds like an epic run. When you getting a limitless and hitting the speed jump spot? Hopefully soon ya know
Use needle nose to plug in
Yeah possibly would have taken just as much time finding a pair🤣😂
"FAN MAN" :) LOL!
Hmmm are u going to run like earl too??????
Yeah I don't have Cali terrain so I'm not sure why the sarcasm unless I'm READING your message inaccurately 🤔
@@rcguygarage lol I saw u comment on earl Morehead vid n he drove it like old man it was joke guy
@@thatguych2 and that's WHY messaging SUCKS cause you never know sometimes how to READ THE ROOM😂🤣
@@rcguygarage 😁😁😁😁
I built a custom B-16 😂
😂🤣
Big Rock 6s or Talion 6s
Guy u just got the program perimeters when u scanned the esc. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to program it by hand.
No shit guy what's your point with the rocket surgeon comment? MY point was not that but it's all good👍 have a nice holiday
@@rcguygarage
I didn't say rocket science, I said brain surgery. And u too big Guy lol.
@@lukerecore come on GUY you know it's called . . . Rocket Surgery 🤣😂🤣😂
@@rcguygarage
Ya ur right
@@lukerecore You know what You're not saying at least you're not saying it in this comment line what do you think about this truck man just from visual because I got to tell you the visual doesn't know justice
Im pretty sure you get the big manual with these new trucks.... if they are now QR code thats beyond Rtarded
$700 and no Big Rock middle page fold out poster NOT COOL
Find out out about the hidden nuke codes on that card dude… seriously?
Dude China LAUNCH CODES .. seriously!
After the new kraton exb came out this thing is overpriced AF. I predict its going to fail just like the fireteam. Insane sales will come soon on it because theres going to be lack of sales. Tried to revive the 6s bigrock name and if it remains at 700$ it aint going to do well. They should have learned that making a expensive scale body on a basher wasnt a good idea with the fireteam and they repeated the same thing with this one. A simple molded lexan body like on the Nero version would have been sufficient and 600$ would have been a great price or mojave pricing.
It's great to have varied opinions and choices. 👍💯
@@rcguygarage I can't say that he wouldn't do well on a debate team! :)
3rd!!!!
3st ‼️😜
11benty 5th@@rcguygarage
@@Paul0088 😂‼️
My god just use the manual or memorize the sequance. This is just lazyness at this point. I even see kevin talbot not able to read for 2 secs the manual and easily increase the brakes. It sickens me. I do have a program card that come with my max8 i do use it sometime on the max 8 for comvenience but gee is is hard to have a 6s manual in ur backpack or car?? Im lasy nut im not THAT lazy. Also internet exists and you can find the manual there...
So your not lazy but you are when it's convenient? Hey you do you the best way you can. 👍💯
Guy this was a cool video and i will definitely be adding the Red or Black B-16 to my Fleet when the time is right as at the moment i have bought so many Rc's in the past 5 months ill be sleeping on the sofa if i was to buy another just yet maybe next month Guy
Yes I know that couch all too well😂🤣😂🤣 jk . Look at it this way, you COULD be out at the bars getting wasted every night OR you could be going to strip joints but NOPE you choose to be more wise and have something to show for your spending😂🤣😜
Dude Thank you , Guy that's exactly what i say too 100% ,You know whom else gets the Blame Guy ? My Fellow You Tube Creators like Yourself, Earl and some others cause apparently i watch their content and then 5/10 ill buy whats on show and thats not true at all i only buy 7/10 Guy . 🤣🤣@@rcguygarage
@@rcguygarageoh my gosh guy that’s what i said a few times & it’s definitely worked 😂
I had the big rock 3S I sold it but I wish I kept it man that thing brand like a beast now I’m bout to buy the big rock 6S I’m getting the end of this month January 2024 array put $550 down I only owe $225 more. I’ll pay that off and this month that’s my Christmas and birthday gift because my birthday is January 3 so I love the big rock three yes I sold it. I wish I kept it but I’m getting the success eventually probably will get another three ass big rock though cause I missed it but I’m getting Big rock 6S I can’t wait to get that