Arks of Omen! Abaddon is a FOOL of the Highest Order and I am Done. A Rant.

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  • @grahamsmith2966
    @grahamsmith2966 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    They should seriously just replace Abbadon with Huron Blackheart already. He's actually a competant villain.

    • @northernexile
      @northernexile  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like the idea but the Warmaster to me should be someone younger with a full career ahead of him, like Decimus or another character I am going to talk about next week.

    • @jeffers1985
      @jeffers1985 ปีที่แล้ว

      Decimus is cool and patching the night lords together is a good prospect

    • @MkZuO12345
      @MkZuO12345 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It won't make a difference. No matter who will be at the helm as "Big Bad Evil Guy" will get gutted by subpar writing, Empire-fondling and overall incompetence. So I wouldn't actually wish for any of decent characters to replace Abby, because they would get dragged through the gutter to the Failbaddon level.

    • @jeffers1985
      @jeffers1985 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MkZuO12345 very valid. Abaddon and avatar of khaine get jobbed out constantly to generic captain A or put X over in stupid ways. Failaddon needs to go as he's past the point of no return for credibility now to turn it around

    • @randomusernameCallin
      @randomusernameCallin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffers1985 At the same time, the whole "fans of 40k" would not allow even one meaningful lost to the evil side. Even if they allow Abaddon to die they would just place someone else since "the better" sides are at best allowed not lost.

  • @Eantrin
    @Eantrin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Abaddon is the Saturday morning cartoon villain who would be shaking his fist going "Next time Space Marines! I'll get you next time!" if his arms hadn't fallen off again mid match...

  • @dr.rotwang
    @dr.rotwang ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The first lesson I learned writing I learned from a lecture with J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, He-Man, The Real Ghostbusters, Captain Power, The Changeling, Thor. Etc.). He himself learned this lesson as a young man from none other than Rod Serling (Night Gallery, Planet of the Apes, Twilight Zone, Etc.) "The first lesson that every writer must learn is "Cut every third adjective."'

  • @jaytwokay3265
    @jaytwokay3265 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    16:22 This is how Vashtorr canonically talks and you can't dissuade me.

    • @Sgt_Glory
      @Sgt_Glory ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol if 40k was in the style of Rick and Morty then that'd totally be his voice 😂

  • @747GhostDogg
    @747GhostDogg ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And yes I am one of those OG 1989 when I got in the hobby, and don't mind the progress as long as it's written well-put-together well-thought-out. The prophet of Malal laughing at the thought of a chaotic coghead God, let the galaxy burn and vote for Malice in 2024, together we can make true chaos great again.

  • @Sommeill
    @Sommeill ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On the subject of ADB, you forget that he also wrote the biggest Abaddon dicksucking fiction in his Black Legion books and as a whole has a big theme of "cool chaos space Marines don't worship chaos". Saying he loves chaos is a bit of a stretch imo.

  • @Grimpo96
    @Grimpo96 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I thought that Abaddon was for sure going to betray Vashtorr in book three. Seeing as there was a tarot card that said “Chaos Always Betrays Chaos”. So I just assumed Abaddon was going along TILL they got their “end goal”.

    • @phaedrosx
      @phaedrosx ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't think anyone expected Be'lakor with the steel chair.

    • @SavageBruski
      @SavageBruski ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would think it's the other way around. Vashtorr betrays and leapfrogs Abaddon to get his way in the scheme of things.

  • @SavageBruski
    @SavageBruski ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why do I get the feeling the Lion might have come back just to snuff Abby, btw?
    Remember how we got teasers in Psychic Awakening for the lore and setting of 8th Ed and then...boom...8th launches with a time skip and Indomitus?

  • @013wolfwarrior
    @013wolfwarrior ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Abadon become an a-hole basicly right after the first book, of horus heresy, he was kind of a cool dude for one book before changing.

  • @buckethead5454
    @buckethead5454 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    honestly the main reason why I made my own chaos Warband is I felt painting Black Legion was embarrassing

  • @olliemag8245
    @olliemag8245 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think part of the problem for Chaos is they are not unified. They climb over each other to be on top.

    • @mpnuorva
      @mpnuorva ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "All of Chaos should undivide. Under MY leadership, of course."

    • @DukeDanseMacambre
      @DukeDanseMacambre ปีที่แล้ว

      This is why skaven in fantasy was perfect for chaos as they are literally a box of rats defecating where they eat with no concepts of morality or sustainability.

  • @747GhostDogg
    @747GhostDogg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Besides if there was such an artifact that can turn an individual character into a chaos don't you think one would think Ahriman or the cyclops wouldn't have at least proclaim such interested of an item.

  • @MiniatureMasterClass
    @MiniatureMasterClass ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The game designers write some cringy lore. I don't know why they don't let the BL authors do it instead.

    • @lastsurvivingemothefox9797
      @lastsurvivingemothefox9797 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Couldn’t agree more. Most books like gathering storm and arcs of omen read more like a units list. ‘X faction was there too with their shotgun guys and missile guys and bolter guys and they all went pew pew against the y faction with their’ blah blah. I was REALLY disappointed with gathering storm. The story as a whole was decent enough but the books read like crap.

    • @northernexile
      @northernexile  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Tbh I was shocked the BL writers DON'T write a lot of the studio approved gestalt lore.

    • @moonlitnightmare
      @moonlitnightmare ปีที่แล้ว +7

      GW is a modelling company. Lore is written by the marketing team.
      Just look at the primaris marines, they retcon whatever they want without any regards to consistency.
      BL authors sadly will always be the third wheel to the tabletop game.

    • @brassviking486
      @brassviking486 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not like they haven't got a stable of professional writers they can give a brief to and say to spin this out over a few thousand words.
      I wonder how many of the problems in the writing ar from withholding details as a hook to get the rest of the books.

    • @DukeDanseMacambre
      @DukeDanseMacambre ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s because ones an author and ones a marketing accountant… that’s why it’s shit poor writing.

  • @jekylthorn8969
    @jekylthorn8969 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Abaddon is the Skeletor of 40k. Or is he the Doctor Evil?

    • @DukeDanseMacambre
      @DukeDanseMacambre ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Skeleton, people like dr evil. 😂

    • @jeffers1985
      @jeffers1985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's Coco the clown who does 5 year old birthday parties

  • @747GhostDogg
    @747GhostDogg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who remembers the vaults of Tara and Ed? And most off there's Arch Lore guru and custom presenter with his paid art.

  • @SemperParty
    @SemperParty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well, your voice is now the voice of Vashtorr in my mind

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be fair he is then living up to his reputation of being Failbaddon The Harmless which man did I think we lost when he blew up Cadia... So they writing is consistent atleast.

  • @Tropicoboy
    @Tropicoboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cant wait for Abadon to get spanked so hard by the lion. Abadon is just a joke never wins when it matter always loses when we expect him to

  • @RSBurgener
    @RSBurgener ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not getting these books, they're just too expensive for me. I did buy the chaos half of Vashtorr's box and I'm very excited to paint it. I'm just not getting into boarding actions. I barely have time to play the core game and the Arks terrain is also quite pricey.

  • @terrysaunders7107
    @terrysaunders7107 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Abbadon is the Mr. Magoo's a bad guy trope. There is no reason why Abbadon shouldn't end up as the end of a human centipede abomination. He has a nice model and so does this new guy. I look forward to dark mechanicus. So what's in the vault? I would have it the STC Nexus - the domain of the machine god where all knowledge and power the dark age had is sealed away. This power once gave humanity war in heaven peer level of power. Yet our AI sealed it away for humanity protection. There, have fun.

  • @gilbertzzz7110
    @gilbertzzz7110 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:18 Yes i do! And i recommend every imperium citzen to do so.

  • @jeffers1985
    @jeffers1985 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chaos need new direction as failaddon is so buried after being a jobber for too long (wrestling lingo)

    • @northernexile
      @northernexile  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its like WWE making a wrestler lose all the time then expecting you to care about him...that's not how this works, champ. Abaddon should be Roman Reigns not X-Pac.

    • @jeffers1985
      @jeffers1985 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@northernexile it didn't help they rewrote the lore to give the impression that the 12 other black crusades were not failures, bit pieces leading to this. People don't forget stuff like that.

  • @NornQueenKya
    @NornQueenKya ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Someone starts a discord and now thinks he can manage a galactic conquest

  • @dalekscaro8567
    @dalekscaro8567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone have a link to the discord? Im getting a message that the one on the community page is expired when I try to use it

    • @manwithqualitiesofabat2180
      @manwithqualitiesofabat2180 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am having the same problem if someone could help me too please

    • @northernexile
      @northernexile  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Give me a moment and it will be on the Community page :)

  • @brassviking486
    @brassviking486 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They missed a perfect chance to add some dark mechanicum or a vashtorr faction.
    I thought that. I was listening to arbitrator Ian's breakdown of it and every second or third word from the lore was 40k techno babble for the sake of adding it.

    • @v02max75
      @v02max75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, just wait. There will most likely be a Dark Mech faction. Unfortunately, GW will probably drop feed any of the really big stuff over the next couple years so they can have constant releases.

    • @brassviking486
      @brassviking486 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@v02max75 it'll be coming eventually. All they needed would be what? An HQ and a conversion sprue for skitari? The rest could be a mix of demon engines, ad mech units and obliterators.
      They're doing 4 books. How much space would rules take up for a new subfaction.

    • @YOGI-kb9tg
      @YOGI-kb9tg ปีที่แล้ว

      oh they will add them eventually potentially in the next 2 years.

  • @chance1703
    @chance1703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get Abaddon in the Sea of Souls

  • @loken9124
    @loken9124 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Won't be long now when Loken turns up in the 40k timeline and kills Abbadon anyways!!😂

  • @747GhostDogg
    @747GhostDogg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just like the weapons hànd of Darkness and the Eye of night ?

  • @hexesandheroes
    @hexesandheroes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree, Abaddon needs to retire to somewhere in the rift and never return. He is just a space marine and isn't very interesting to be honest. I'd much rather see a new character in there ... or maybe on of the lost primarchs.

  • @v10l3t40
    @v10l3t40 ปีที่แล้ว

    Abaddon still being the villain really baffles me because he looks like Horus, he has Horus' hubris, he's a puppet of chaos like horus, he has a cool model but his character is now just lame

  • @LichLordKrull
    @LichLordKrull ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate how this book is written and how vague everything is but in fairness to Abaddon it is suggested that he and Vashtorr talked privately and Vastorr explained everything to him, and he was both incredibly pleased by it and certain that it was worth tremendous sacrifice to achieve. So it seems that it is us who are in the dark, not actually Abaddon. He knows what he's fighting for.
    And it does mention that Abaddon is also confident that he could destroy Vashtorr if he needed to, senses teachery etc. So I think from his perspective he's just willing to give it ago and see how things play out, because the reward is worth the risk.
    So I don't think it's fair to call him so dumb because 1- He knows exactly what the goal is, and approves and 2- Is not worried about Vashtorr betraying him because he can take him out if needs be. That being said I still hate the books and how vague everything is.
    This comment made by a full on Abaddon fanboy....Man I love him.

    • @calebbarnhouse496
      @calebbarnhouse496 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering that abaddon just stopped doing things after his 13th attempt to do anything failed until he threw a bitch fit I doubt he could actually beat anything

    • @LichLordKrull
      @LichLordKrull ปีที่แล้ว

      @@calebbarnhouse496 Stopped doing things? It's only been like what, 200 years since Cadia? Basically nothing for him, and he still found time to attack Vigilus and tear Calgar apart (talk about plot armour).
      And "bitch fit"? That's what you get from getting your "lore" from memes and Majorkill videos. Abaddon acknowledged the respectable defence of the planet before pouring himself out a glass of wine in clone-Horus' skull and giving his best villain laugh.
      He was noted to be furious after his retreat, but that's to be expected when Imperial plot armour keeps preventing you from actually finishing anybody off at the last moment. (Calgar, Celestine, Creed...)

    • @calebbarnhouse496
      @calebbarnhouse496 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LichLordKrull so it makes sense that after he made a lot more chaos, chaos stopped attacking

  • @deepfriedjonny90
    @deepfriedjonny90 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been reading heresy books on my phone and the Google play books dictionary cannot define some of the adjectives they use 😂

  • @SIMONK479
    @SIMONK479 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mate your lore is so much better i forget it not the actual lore haha.

  • @Wanten-the-stormtrooper
    @Wanten-the-stormtrooper ปีที่แล้ว

    Uh oh... This doesn't bode well for everyone's "favourite" Chaos lord!

  • @kennetheisenbraun5217
    @kennetheisenbraun5217 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm kinda surprised that someone do against the smoothbrain meme culture that 40k can have sometimes highly rated Majorkill when that's most of his videos.

    • @northernexile
      @northernexile  ปีที่แล้ว

      He provides an important service to cater to the people who want simple milk and cookies lore, I do sometimes, he's really good to turn your brain off to and just listen to some cool shit.

    • @kennetheisenbraun5217
      @kennetheisenbraun5217 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@northernexile my problem is he perpetuates meme lore, gets stuff wrong, and accuses others of stuff he does.
      I also don't quite understand what you mean by "milk and cookies lore", but that may be my mild autism.

  • @KnightofEkron
    @KnightofEkron ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, you make some good points. 😬

  • @grinningdragondren
    @grinningdragondren ปีที่แล้ว

    Ya i thought they where replacing abaddon with vashtor he seems like a meme at this point

  • @dancheetham2649
    @dancheetham2649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, im a massive fan of Horus. I hope Bile creates and nurtures a successful clone and he appears, much to abaddons surprise, and just swats him aside and assumes control. Unites the legions and takes the fight to the imperium
    Wishful thinking I know lol

    • @Tropicoboy
      @Tropicoboy ปีที่แล้ว

      He did that before but because Horus's soul has been obliterated he isnt as strong and charismatic. Bile killed clone Horus super easily.

  • @randomusernameCallin
    @randomusernameCallin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every setting has elements that can bring in things you do not like. It is just the nature that even good things can go that. Battletech sufferers from "no backies".
    40k suffers from the "Grim dark." Only the evil sides, chaos, tyramods, and works, are allowed meaningful wins. It is not just GW but the "fan of 40k" that pushes that and all other factions at best can only have not losses. Abaddon and his "grim dark" armor is the perfect example of what can come from that mind set. THen even recon his 12 losts into win.
    You can have a grim dark setting but I want more complexity. I think chaos need to take a setting change loss but leave the splitting of the galaxy. I understand all of the immature whining about primaris marines to this day would be nothing compare to that whine you would get if something likethat happens.

    • @joesheridan9451
      @joesheridan9451 ปีที่แล้ว

      How can you say the imperium don't have meaningful wins

    • @randomusernameCallin
      @randomusernameCallin ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@joesheridan9451 I can not think of a win the imperium have that is not retaking what they lost or stopping danger. These for me are more not losses. Can you think of one time they truly hurt or weakened the Choas Gods?

    • @joesheridan9451
      @joesheridan9451 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randomusernameCallin Hmm I guess the only recent one that comes to mind is when mortarion got beaten back and emperor/gulliman set fire to nurgles garden
      But although you do make a point about how they arent making gains, they are still mostly winning... The space marines still get their ridiculous plot armor and favouritism in every encounter they are involved in

    • @randomusernameCallin
      @randomusernameCallin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joesheridan9451 Most of those wins are Pyrrhic victory at best or what I call not losses.
      It is true that space marines have plot armor but that still does not compare to Chaos' "It must be grime dark" armor.

  • @truckasaurus9510
    @truckasaurus9510 ปีที่แล้ว

    If 40k is going to be an ongoing setting then people would have to accept that their factions can be destroyed and characters can die. Otherwise it's all just pointless drama. Wipe out one of the big space marine chapters and see how many people want it to be an ongoing story.

  • @dantauche7917
    @dantauche7917 ปีที่แล้ว

    What!? No mention of OneMindSyndicate?????
    *sarcasm*

  • @al6954
    @al6954 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, kill Abaddon at the start of 10th ed.

  • @ryanrose9786
    @ryanrose9786 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does it compare to say...
    End Times, I think it was Malekith?
    Now hear me out I loved that book!
    Well not the rules they effed up magic even worse but the lore.
    The collective meltdown of elf players as Malekith was right...was worth all the horrid writing.
    Thus what makes elf players cry is objectively the best written work in human history.
    Ok I half jest. Really don't like elves though.
    From what has been described, I smell a Ward.
    At least a hand in it.
    End my oldmanrant like this, I'm not against pushing the narrative forward but warmahordes did it much better.
    Well until the end, then it jumped the shark.
    I do prefer a more sandbox approach to creative ips but if they really want to do this narrative stuff.
    Slow it down.

  • @MaxiosMB
    @MaxiosMB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's be honest, Lucius or Angron being immortal, Abaddon not getting any conclusive win or anything is because GW are pandering to Space Marine and Imperium, this setting isn't supposed to move forward, this is why they're isn't anyone wiping out one of their ennemy in the setting. I think you're supposed to take the lore/ characters, and make up a story in your head about how the setting could move forward.
    The thing with bad guys is if they don't appear stronger than the protagonist it hinders they're credibility and their sense of purpose, but then again everyone is a dick in 40k, chaos, xenos, human, everyone, so I dunno, I feel like the meme "Abaddon is trash" is kinda played out when you got far worse writing than that in 40k

  • @Overanalyse_This
    @Overanalyse_This ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm new to your channel so not sure if you welcome or use viewers ideas for stories but hey...
    So I've always thought that a story with huge ork leaving the warp, crash landing onto a planet and running into a bunch of Fantasy or AOS orks could be quite fun.

  • @Raygun9000
    @Raygun9000 ปีที่แล้ว

    What're Abaddon's failures? He's always gaining ground. Has split the imperium in half. Absorbed a staggering amount of territory into the Great rift. And all this with unreliable allies and underlings.

  • @purplewabbit7848
    @purplewabbit7848 ปีที่แล้ว

    aight! so im heading right now over to a major kill video to let him know in the comments u said u haz a crush on him.

    • @northernexile
      @northernexile  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aaaaaaaalllll righty then.

    • @purplewabbit7848
      @purplewabbit7848 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@northernexile waw a reply from the man himself. hey i commented often with friendly banter, I hope it didn't come out the wrong way. anyways great content maybe one day ill send my 40k nightmare story. pizza and prosperity 🍕🖖

    • @northernexile
      @northernexile  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@purplewabbit7848You're all good and thank you :)

  • @lordnagatron
    @lordnagatron ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Time to bring back one of the completed clones of Horus and get rid of Abadork.
    Been playing since 97, enough already with abaloser, get a new fuggin villain, plenty to pick from.
    At this point the writing from 40k looks like desperation on gw part.
    How long b4 rainbow colored lightsabers appear for the new fans demanding things from vw , and gw will cave in as always.
    WtF ever happened to doomrider????
    Why is there no mention of the perfect clone of horus in trazyns collection?
    Hey GW you opened the bottle 27 yrs ago , and now the creation you made named abaddon is watered down weak sauce. Its a shame.

    • @Tropicoboy
      @Tropicoboy ปีที่แล้ว

      If they revived horus it would ruin the story arc of the horus heresy. The whole point is the favored son who lost his way and ruined his fathers creation in the end.

  • @manofaction1807
    @manofaction1807 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope this nonsense ends and they stop doing this. It was bad enough that they overload a struggling market with overpriced hype that's not available, even when it is released, it's even worse that they don't even know their own history to tie it in with this rambling shitshow.
    I tried, but at the end of the day, I have more important things to spend my money on then a regurgitated crap walls set, masquerading as Space Hulk.
    If anything, it has made me pull out and dust off my Space Hulk sets. (WE were already playing this type of game back in 93-94, it didn't take overpriced hype to do it with.) All we needed were 2X2inch home made tiles, and corridor sets from Space Hulk.