I debated so much before ordering these PC38X. I was going to buy headphones but the more I looked the more exasperated I became. Some need a dac or amp, some don't. I also needed a mic. Then purchasing a secondary microphone and down that rabbit hole. Eventually I went with these for sheer convenience. I think maybe that's who these are designed for. Upgrading my Astro A40 TR
22:28 - surprise, surprise ... this applies to lots of other things you need, including chairs - where an office good quality chair will be more comfortable than a gaming chair with lots of useless pillows in the same price range.
I have a Sennheiser PC38X. I have it hooked up to a UGREEN USB-C to 3,5mm jack. It sounds fine, but it doesn't get very loud. I want to add more volume to my headphones and use Dolby Atmos. I'd imagine that this will be more than adequate to give me more volume given the very low impediance (32 ohms) of my PC38X.
Late to the party here...not sure if you're still rocking these. What after market earpads would you recommend from dekoni or wicked cushions for better sound quality. Comfort is second place.
Still rock then for sure. Wicked Cushions is pretty decent, but for my money, I'd go Dekoni if given the choice. I have some wildly comfortable sheepskin pads from Dekoni that are extremely comfortable, but when it comes to sound performance, I actually recommend sticking with velour.
@@MasterMarslander velour was my gut instinct. They're kind of my go to after being so used to beyerdynamic dt 770 and 900 pro x i use for music recording. The reason I ask is because people reviewing the ear pads on amazon seem to have issues with them changing the sound in a negative way. More bass with sheepskin and more of a closed back less open feeling. Thanks for the reply and sick you're still rocking them. I recently got the maxwells and now finally a dac/amp for my wired sets. A lot of a/bing going on over here.
@Justin-bm7zn yeah, anything other than the velour does change the sound. So it's a balance of comfort and sound you mind off have to gamble with. You have Maxwell too? You're freaking set, bruv.
@ronald0122 I prefer the velour pads for just about any occasion. The HD560 is an overall more neutral sound with brighter highs than the PC38X, whike the PC38X offer more mid bass presence and generally better imaging for gaming.
Your channel is going to be gold! Would you recommend that we avoid DTS and Atmos when using these? Would love to see a more detailed video about that since a lot of us who are trying to understand better audio need some guidance. Would it be possible for you to explore if we can eq these with atmos for 3rd person non competitive immersive games? Thanks bro !
Ah, interesting. I don't think that Atmos will yield any significant results, and likely the same story with DTS - though I have not had as much experience with DTS. You can EQ them, of course, but I honestly don't find that very necessary for the PC38X. Their stock sound signature allows for an already immersive and natural listening experience. I know I talked competitive games in the video, but I'm more of a narrative driven gamer myself and love them for that. Played all through God of War and Ragnarok with these things and loved every minute of it. DTS and Atmos are worth exploring though. I'll try them out myself and if it's mind bending I'll come back to it.
What's up Marslander. So just an update on this, I got the PC38X and they are 100% better without VSS for FPS gaming (such as Warzone as you stated earlier) and I actually find the bass to be really pleasant so i'm not gonna EQ that. The one thing I feel might need EQing is the footstep ranges in Warzone as footsteps aren't as clear as they are on other headsets. I'm assuming this is on the 125khz range. Just thought I'd get your thoughts on that since that's a mid-low frequency isn't it (yes- I am still an audio noob). And I saw elsewhere that apparently th Velour Pads are apparently superior for audio than the Mesh ones. Is this snake oil or can pads legitimately change the way we perceive the audio? Cheers!
Not one that I've heard, though there are some closed back Sennheiser/EPOS gaming headsets out there. For a high-end closed back gaming headset, I recommend looking into the Audeze Maxwell.
Do you need an Amp for the pc38 playing pc? And as far as sound, are these really bright at high volume ? I’ve had the Arctis pro and find them way to bright, it’s uncomfortable to listen to
You do not require an amp, no. I plug them directly into my PS5 controller or PC and they work just fine. That being said, they will benefit from a dedicated amp. I don't find them fatiguing in the high end at all. It is good shimmer, sparkle and detail without being too much.
Awesome review, I mainly play on PS5 do you I require a DAC or can I connect the headset to the PS5 controller and still get the same audio experience you mentioned? thanks
@zemab1nks haven't used it myself so I can't say, but I also don't think any additional dac is really necessarily. Mine sound fabulous straight from the PC/console.
@@MasterMarslander just not sure if they were as good as some reviews made them out to be for gaming in terms of watching movies and music I love them have them connected to a dac but when playing tarkov where a lot of players use audiophile setups sometimes the small details seemed to blend in and long range gun shots where hard to direct
If you feel like you're getting a loss in fine details then maybe you want less soundstage. Maybe you'd be better with a closed back? Or sure, IEMs would accomplish the same. Just be careful not to listen too loud, take it from me.
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These are awesome. Wanted something similar to my HD599 but with a mic. These fit the bill perfectly!
Great review. I love when you get passionate about a headphone set.
I debated so much before ordering these PC38X. I was going to buy headphones but the more I looked the more exasperated I became. Some need a dac or amp, some don't. I also needed a mic. Then purchasing a secondary microphone and down that rabbit hole. Eventually I went with these for sheer convenience. I think maybe that's who these are designed for. Upgrading my Astro A40 TR
Your way to describe things gave me good mood, as i needed it. Thank you man.
Love to hear it!
Already a fan of Sennheiser. Might need to add this to my gaming setup!
22:28 - surprise, surprise ... this applies to lots of other things you need, including chairs - where an office good quality chair will be more comfortable than a gaming chair with lots of useless pillows in the same price range.
Learned my lessons on gaming chairs a good while ago. Ergonomics all the way!
I have a Sennheiser PC38X. I have it hooked up to a UGREEN USB-C to 3,5mm jack. It sounds fine, but it doesn't get very loud. I want to add more volume to my headphones and use Dolby Atmos. I'd imagine that this will be more than adequate to give me more volume given the very low impediance (32 ohms) of my PC38X.
Late to the party here...not sure if you're still rocking these. What after market earpads would you recommend from dekoni or wicked cushions for better sound quality. Comfort is second place.
Still rock then for sure. Wicked Cushions is pretty decent, but for my money, I'd go Dekoni if given the choice. I have some wildly comfortable sheepskin pads from Dekoni that are extremely comfortable, but when it comes to sound performance, I actually recommend sticking with velour.
@@MasterMarslander velour was my gut instinct. They're kind of my go to after being so used to beyerdynamic dt 770 and 900 pro x i use for music recording.
The reason I ask is because people reviewing the ear pads on amazon seem to have issues with them changing the sound in a negative way. More bass with sheepskin and more of a closed back less open feeling.
Thanks for the reply and sick you're still rocking them. I recently got the maxwells and now finally a dac/amp for my wired sets. A lot of a/bing going on over here.
@Justin-bm7zn yeah, anything other than the velour does change the sound. So it's a balance of comfort and sound you mind off have to gamble with. You have Maxwell too? You're freaking set, bruv.
which pads are better for fps games? and is this better or worse then the hd560s?
@ronald0122 I prefer the velour pads for just about any occasion. The HD560 is an overall more neutral sound with brighter highs than the PC38X, whike the PC38X offer more mid bass presence and generally better imaging for gaming.
I didn't even know I wanted these until now. My Philips SHP9600s are going to be sad.
They need not be a replacement, they can be siblings!
@@MasterMarslander The sibling rivalry will be too much for them. One has to die.
How does it compare to the PC 37x in terms of music sound and FPS Shooter steps and perception and locations of enemies?
Your channel is going to be gold! Would you recommend that we avoid DTS and Atmos when using these? Would love to see a more detailed video about that since a lot of us who are trying to understand better audio need some guidance.
Would it be possible for you to explore if we can eq these with atmos for 3rd person non competitive immersive games?
Thanks bro !
Ah, interesting. I don't think that Atmos will yield any significant results, and likely the same story with DTS - though I have not had as much experience with DTS. You can EQ them, of course, but I honestly don't find that very necessary for the PC38X. Their stock sound signature allows for an already immersive and natural listening experience. I know I talked competitive games in the video, but I'm more of a narrative driven gamer myself and love them for that. Played all through God of War and Ragnarok with these things and loved every minute of it.
DTS and Atmos are worth exploring though. I'll try them out myself and if it's mind bending I'll come back to it.
Thanks! Looking forward if it proves worth it
What's up Marslander. So just an update on this, I got the PC38X and they are 100% better without VSS for FPS gaming (such as Warzone as you stated earlier) and I actually find the bass to be really pleasant so i'm not gonna EQ that. The one thing I feel might need EQing is the footstep ranges in Warzone as footsteps aren't as clear as they are on other headsets. I'm assuming this is on the 125khz range. Just thought I'd get your thoughts on that since that's a mid-low frequency isn't it (yes- I am still an audio noob).
And I saw elsewhere that apparently th Velour Pads are apparently superior for audio than the Mesh ones. Is this snake oil or can pads legitimately change the way we perceive the audio?
Cheers!
Also, music is so good I wanna spend more $ now... This is going to become a costly hobby.
@@MerlaxMcBahu-lg4zr Ha! Yes, yes it will.
is there a closed back equivalent?
Not one that I've heard, though there are some closed back Sennheiser/EPOS gaming headsets out there. For a high-end closed back gaming headset, I recommend looking into the Audeze Maxwell.
Do you need an Amp for the pc38 playing pc? And as far as sound, are these really bright at high volume ? I’ve had the Arctis pro and find them way to bright, it’s uncomfortable to listen to
You do not require an amp, no. I plug them directly into my PS5 controller or PC and they work just fine. That being said, they will benefit from a dedicated amp.
I don't find them fatiguing in the high end at all. It is good shimmer, sparkle and detail without being too much.
@@MasterMarslander thanks for the reply, I’ll be giving these a chance for sure.
Awesome review, I mainly play on PS5 do you I require a DAC or can I connect the headset to the PS5 controller and still get the same audio experience you mentioned? thanks
No amp or dac is necessary to play on PS5. Plug it right into your controller and game on!
@@MasterMarslanderI wanted to buy the SBX G6 for the PC38X but I got told the mic quality gets very bad using that DAC. Is that true?
@zemab1nks haven't used it myself so I can't say, but I also don't think any additional dac is really necessarily. Mine sound fabulous straight from the PC/console.
Epos h6 pro or this ? 😅
I'll take the obvious for $200, Mr. Trebek.
which is better between this and HD560s?
They basically are the HD560s with a microphone. Same driver, I believe. They sound very similar, with a slight dump in the low-end on the HD560s.
I have them I play a lot of escape from tarkov don’t love them
Interesting. What about them do you wish was different?
@@MasterMarslander just not sure if they were as good as some reviews made them out to be for gaming in terms of watching movies and music I love them have them connected to a dac but when playing tarkov where a lot of players use audiophile setups sometimes the small details seemed to blend in and long range gun shots where hard to direct
@@MasterMarslander I just think tarkov likes a bigger sound stage trying out the truth ear iems as I’ve wanted to give them a shot
But I seen a review on Amazon of someone who was using the pc38x and switched to the truthear iems and said he liked them a lot better
If you feel like you're getting a loss in fine details then maybe you want less soundstage. Maybe you'd be better with a closed back? Or sure, IEMs would accomplish the same. Just be careful not to listen too loud, take it from me.