Imagine if in the future we can import FDR readings to flight simulator to get an accurate depiction of the flight path. Also what if there was a way to create custom scripts so we can simulate the button presses made by the crew and trigger certain events (e.g. birdstrike, flight control malfunction) at a specific timestamp. That would be a massive innovation in the investigative process and a very entertaining and educational demonstration.
Hard to imagine what goes through a pilots head at certain points in the flight, like the moment both engines flamed out and the final moments immediately prior to ditching in the river, like God please don't let anyone die on my watch this flight!
I hope you all watch the movie Sully! They actually used a simulator to convince the jury that he could have reached an airport and landed, but they where totally wrong and Sully ended up being the hero he truly is. I can't imagine how incredibly hard it must be to put down an aircraft like that on the surface without tearing of the engines and end up spinning around.
Didn't like the movie much, it was too dramatized. I mean the true feat was amazing so why cheapen it with fake drama that never existed? Why make every other person involved a bumbling idiot? Especially the way they portraited the ATC was mean. In the real voice recordings, as heard here, you can hear he stays extremely professional, immediately gives sully all options available and organizes that they are available while still controlling other aircrafts. He also organized first responds units and supplied them with the crash location. In the movie he fell apart at the first sign of trouble. The whole simulator stuff as well as the "The engines still worked" point of the movie was completely fabricated as well.
The movie made up a lot of crap that simply never happened, including the subplot about the investigative board attempting to blame him. I guess they felt they couldn’t have a two-hour movie with all of the exciting parts in the first fifteen minutes, so they had to invent a lot of fictional drama and claim it was a "true story."
Thank you Captain, a very good representation of what was a true miracle that day. Would be easy to sensationalise this but I thought your video was very professional. Thank you.
What I love about this is that you can actually ditch a plane in water now without triggering the "You have crashed" message. In FSX and P3D that was impossible.
I've always turned all those messages off anyway. No FS version that I'm aware of was actually ever good at these things and latest when you're flying on VATSIM and somebody logs in at your gate you really want to get rid of those crashes.
Wow! One thing, if I recall correct, that the film "Sully" did NOT represent was all the voice chatter on frequency PLUS all the alarms going off in the cockpit that the pilots had to contend with. The fact they were able to maintain their cool and still pull this off is quite a testament to their training and skill. I thoroughly enjoyed this video and since I'm not a pilot IRL any deviations from the actual flight path are unnoticeable to me. Great video!
Yeah, the film also sucked in that it made the NTSB antagonists for the drama of it-the NTSB aren't frothing at the mouth to blame pilots IRL, and the film would have been better without that framing, I think.
@@wyattsteel411 But, to a degree, that did happen with this particular investigation. I agree that, in general, they are not out for blood, but they also had a high level of disbelief that landing was NOT an option from what I recall.
I think a lower altitude might have made it more dangerous.
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I loved the comment from one in the crew (I think it was the FO) during the hearing afterwards when they were asked if they could think of anything they could have done differently and the response was something along the lines "It would have been better to do this kind of thing in the summer" 😁 Truly amazing flight crew! Those PAX really picked the right flight to be on for something like this to happen 👍
That was a lovely one indeed! The other one I really liked in the movie Sully (not sure if he was asked and answered the same in real life) was: "What would you have done different on that day if you knew what was about to happen?" "I would have called sick".
I saw the movie. But for some reason this affected me more. I guess because I'm a simmer. Upsetting watching the instruments and understanding there values. I could somewhat feel the pilots stress as much as a simulation can give compared to the real world stress. But a good video for education. well done737NG Driver. P.S. PMDG 737-800 my bird of choice.
Absolutely correct. Unfortunately to hold the speed in the Fenix I had to descend this fast. The Fenix seems to need some tweaks to the flight model with both engines shut down.
According to the NTSB Incident Review Board the ditching/forced water landing was accomplished at 125 KIAS at a pitch angle of 9 (ish) degrees and a VS of -3.5 (over three times what the aircraft was certified for with D/FWL)
Definitely gives you chills looking out the window and imagining the choices you would have to make, he knew pretty much right away where he needed to land and he planned it out in his head.. one thing he did right off the bat that, if I remember correctly wasn't on any checklist, was to reach up and turn the APU on ... an amazing job all around from everyone that day.
Wasn't that part of what saved them? The APU allowed them to keep the flight envelope protections and use them to glide into the water as perfectly as possible if I remember correctly.
@@lulebe7210 it would have kept electrical systems going, otherwise they would have lost almost everything except maybe some standby instruments which can be very difficult to read.. might have also been able to power standby hydraulic pumps? But there is also the RAD? that would have deployed for emergency hydraulics.. i don't remember hearing if they needed that.. or maybe not since he started the APU.
Cobbler, stick to your last! Emmanuel is a 737 pilot, so he has a lot of expertise (and professional training) on that specific plane. He made absolutely fantastic tutorials on it. But as long as he isn't a type rated A320 pilot, I think he should stick to the 737 to produce content at such an exceptional level. Don't get me wrong, I am not claiming that he can't fly the A320, or shouldn't do content on it. But there are several excellent A320 tutorials by actual A320-rated pilots out there, who by professional training, have a much deeper understanding of the A320 than Emmanuel is probably able to get - aside from getting type-rated in the thing, of course. Just my €0.02 :)
Not sure it’s modelled in the Fenix.. pressing the ‘Ditching button’ overhead panel? Think I’ll check it out.. Struggling to keep up with all your amazing contents 👌👌
I believe it is modelled. However the button was also not pressed in the real flight. It was right at the end of the checklist and they never came that far in the limited time they had.
I'm sure there's more missing. An emergency like this can just not be flown correctly by a single pilot sitting at a desktop simulator. I therefore focused on the flying part and left the system management aside.
@@A330Driver yea I agree 100%. I did this myself yesterday and I was surprised how quickly everything happened. It‘s crazy what these guys could do such a short time!
Thank for the real ATC and that amazing what apen this day. The pilot not paniqued. Just find the better solution. Recently we have a go around published by LFPG for the New York Paris and that was a little more paniqued in the radio.
At least they landed in the river, no one dies, and the airplane was saved. Returning to the airport was impossible, and they will crash before the runway.
@@A330Driver It was a long time ago they flew through a heavy thunder storm and both engines flamed out the aircraft was only slightly damaged and when repaired it was towed to a nearby highway and flown out i believe.
lol. "radar contact lost" at 300ft and ATC is telling him about Newark@7 miles. yeah, we'll just glide 7 miles there in a a320 with no engines and less than 400ft
Incredible how calm Sully sounds on the radio. The passengers can be thankful he was in the cockpit that day.
Imagine if in the future we can import FDR readings to flight simulator to get an accurate depiction of the flight path. Also what if there was a way to create custom scripts so we can simulate the button presses made by the crew and trigger certain events (e.g. birdstrike, flight control malfunction) at a specific timestamp.
That would be a massive innovation in the investigative process and a very entertaining and educational demonstration.
That'd be absolutely terrific!
for the investigation part it's already being done in the sims, you can basically do whatever you want in their simulators
Hard to imagine what goes through a pilots head at certain points in the flight, like the moment both engines flamed out and the final moments immediately prior to ditching in the river, like God please don't let anyone die on my watch this flight!
My heart was beating just watching this. The nerves of those involved.
Actually this Video brought a tear to my eye. Great video. Great Simulator and great Addon, well done.
This was INCREDIBLE and absolutely terrifying. Beautifully well done, and amazing job Sully.
I hope you all watch the movie Sully! They actually used a simulator to convince the jury that he could have reached an airport and landed, but they where totally wrong and Sully ended up being the hero he truly is.
I can't imagine how incredibly hard it must be to put down an aircraft like that on the surface without tearing of the engines and end up spinning around.
real
Didn't like the movie much, it was too dramatized. I mean the true feat was amazing so why cheapen it with fake drama that never existed? Why make every other person involved a bumbling idiot? Especially the way they portraited the ATC was mean. In the real voice recordings, as heard here, you can hear he stays extremely professional, immediately gives sully all options available and organizes that they are available while still controlling other aircrafts. He also organized first responds units and supplied them with the crash location. In the movie he fell apart at the first sign of trouble.
The whole simulator stuff as well as the "The engines still worked" point of the movie was completely fabricated as well.
The movie made up a lot of crap that simply never happened, including the subplot about the investigative board attempting to blame him. I guess they felt they couldn’t have a two-hour movie with all of the exciting parts in the first fifteen minutes, so they had to invent a lot of fictional drama and claim it was a "true story."
NO SPOILERS my german friend! NO SPOILERS! Some people haven't watched the movie.
@@scarsstitches636 it's hard to avoid spoilers when talking about an A320 😉
Thank you Captain, a very good representation of what was a true miracle that day. Would be easy to sensationalise this but I thought your video was very professional. Thank you.
What I love about this is that you can actually ditch a plane in water now without triggering the "You have crashed" message. In FSX and P3D that was impossible.
Splash!
I've always turned all those messages off anyway. No FS version that I'm aware of was actually ever good at these things and latest when you're flying on VATSIM and somebody logs in at your gate you really want to get rid of those crashes.
Wow! One thing, if I recall correct, that the film "Sully" did NOT represent was all the voice chatter on frequency PLUS all the alarms going off in the cockpit that the pilots had to contend with. The fact they were able to maintain their cool and still pull this off is quite a testament to their training and skill. I thoroughly enjoyed this video and since I'm not a pilot IRL any deviations from the actual flight path are unnoticeable to me. Great video!
Yeah, the film also sucked in that it made the NTSB antagonists for the drama of it-the NTSB aren't frothing at the mouth to blame pilots IRL, and the film would have been better without that framing, I think.
@@wyattsteel411 But, to a degree, that did happen with this particular investigation. I agree that, in general, they are not out for blood, but they also had a high level of disbelief that landing was NOT an option from what I recall.
How calm Sully was in all that's situation! Incredible!
Very well done. Still can't believe he pulled that off. Such a great job all around
Captain Sully is an amazing pilot, I can't emphasize enough how incredible this was!
It was truly fortunate the bird strike didn’t happen at a lower altitude, great video, riveting indeed!
I think a lower altitude might have made it more dangerous.
I loved the comment from one in the crew (I think it was the FO) during the hearing afterwards when they were asked if they could think of anything they could have done differently and the response was something along the lines "It would have been better to do this kind of thing in the summer" 😁 Truly amazing flight crew! Those PAX really picked the right flight to be on for something like this to happen 👍
That was a lovely one indeed!
The other one I really liked in the movie Sully (not sure if he was asked and answered the same in real life) was: "What would you have done different on that day if you knew what was about to happen?" "I would have called sick".
A truly remarkable event in many ways 👍
Great recreation!
Klasse Idee! Vielen Dank dafür. Ich habe gestern Abend erst noch Sully geguckt!
Wow... great video! It really brings home what it must have been like for the crew....Just goes to show what an awesome job they did on the day 👍
I saw the movie. But for some reason this affected me more. I guess because I'm a simmer. Upsetting watching the instruments and understanding there values. I could somewhat feel the pilots stress as much as a simulation can give compared to the real world stress. But a good video for education. well done737NG Driver. P.S. PMDG 737-800 my bird of choice.
Very nice Video. Enjoyed it very much. Good effort! :)
I think the real flight wouldn’t have descended so fast towards the Hudson. Still a great video!
Absolutely correct. Unfortunately to hold the speed in the Fenix I had to descend this fast. The Fenix seems to need some tweaks to the flight model with both engines shut down.
According to the NTSB Incident Review Board the ditching/forced water landing was accomplished at 125 KIAS at a pitch angle of 9 (ish) degrees and a VS of -3.5 (over three times what the aircraft was certified for with D/FWL)
Definitely gives you chills looking out the window and imagining the choices you would have to make, he knew pretty much right away where he needed to land and he planned it out in his head.. one thing he did right off the bat that, if I remember correctly wasn't on any checklist, was to reach up and turn the APU on ... an amazing job all around from everyone that day.
Wasn't that part of what saved them? The APU allowed them to keep the flight envelope protections and use them to glide into the water as perfectly as possible if I remember correctly.
@@lulebe7210 it would have kept electrical systems going, otherwise they would have lost almost everything except maybe some standby instruments which can be very difficult to read.. might have also been able to power standby hydraulic pumps? But there is also the RAD? that would have deployed for emergency hydraulics.. i don't remember hearing if they needed that.. or maybe not since he started the APU.
@@budguy21 wouldn't the RAT have deployed automatically? I thought he still reached up and turned on the APU right away.
Uff all happened so fast. My respect. Nice video!
That was well good !!!
killer idea for a video! love it!
Any plans to do a tutorial series like you did for 737?. I like the way you do them. Learned a lot from you. Thanks a lot ☺️,,👍👍
Probably, but I'd never be able to create it to the same level as the 737 tutorials. But I might do something for the Fenix.
check out 320 sim pilot he does in depth on the airbus family
Cobbler, stick to your last!
Emmanuel is a 737 pilot, so he has a lot of expertise (and professional training) on that specific plane. He made absolutely fantastic tutorials on it. But as long as he isn't a type rated A320 pilot, I think he should stick to the 737 to produce content at such an exceptional level.
Don't get me wrong, I am not claiming that he can't fly the A320, or shouldn't do content on it. But there are several excellent A320 tutorials by actual A320-rated pilots out there, who by professional training, have a much deeper understanding of the A320 than Emmanuel is probably able to get - aside from getting type-rated in the thing, of course.
Just my €0.02 :)
@@A330Driver I think you can. The little things you explain worth a lot to me.
@@m0llux Yeh. I agree. But I believe when he does he will do it far better. Knowing is one thing and teaching it is something else.
This was AWESOME!
Great job !
Not sure it’s modelled in the Fenix.. pressing the ‘Ditching button’ overhead panel? Think I’ll check it out.. Struggling to keep up with all your amazing contents 👌👌
I believe it is modelled. However the button was also not pressed in the real flight. It was right at the end of the checklist and they never came that far in the limited time they had.
@@A330Driver yeah I did read that.. would think pressing that button would have been at the top of the checklist 🤷♂️
Once pressed what happens?
@@cheeselight8050 Closes all the ports/inlet/outlet valves to prevent water from entering the aircraft
Can you make southwest 3472 & 1380?
Weirdly, somewhow I've never realised that they managed to climb so high before the bird strike happened.
Wow, thanks.
I think Y HYD was missing. Otherwise very good! :)
I'm sure there's more missing. An emergency like this can just not be flown correctly by a single pilot sitting at a desktop simulator.
I therefore focused on the flying part and left the system management aside.
@@A330Driver yea I agree 100%. I did this myself yesterday and I was surprised how quickly everything happened. It‘s crazy what these guys could do such a short time!
Thank for the real ATC and that amazing what apen this day. The pilot not paniqued. Just find the better solution.
Recently we have a go around published by LFPG for the New York Paris and that was a little more paniqued in the radio.
170kts approach speed? Awfully fast isn't it? What was their speed when they touched down?
Indeed too fast. The real one flew around 150kt, but the Fenix would stall if I did that.
did you press the ditch button ?
No. As far as I know it was not pressed in the real aircraft either as it was too far down in the checklist.
@@A330Driver that’s is correct :)
At least they landed in the river, no one dies, and the airplane was saved. Returning to the airport was impossible, and they will crash before the runway.
What about the new TACA 737 that had a double engine flame out and did a successful landing on a levee.
Beats this in my book.
It's a very interesting one for sure, but I don't think there's enough good data available to actually make it happen.
@@A330Driver It was a long time ago they flew through a heavy thunder storm and both engines flamed out the aircraft was only slightly damaged and when repaired it was towed to a nearby highway and flown out i believe.
Lucky day
lol. "radar contact lost" at 300ft and ATC is telling him about Newark@7 miles. yeah, we'll just glide 7 miles there in a a320 with no engines and less than 400ft
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate.
Muito bom
Un pilota reale che va in acqua? Che figuraccia
Boeing pilot flying airbus. Wow
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i'm very very very disappointed that you didnt copy the actual flightpath ... really, how could you...