Legend of Vox Machina is really cool guys | Arcane Lounge Podcast #51
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2024
- Today we talk about that new show that came out that weirdly has a lot of D&D references!
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It's crazy. I played D&D in my teens back in the 80's with 1st Edition. "Grew out of it" for a long time. Then discovered Critical Role during the Pandemic in 2020. That led me to your channel, Jacob. Funny how things all connect around.
Same
Welcome back
C1 was a "classic" high fantasy campaign, in a LOT of ways. Most of the characters are classic fantasy tropes - brooding Rogue, Cleric of Light, horny Bard, comic relief Barbarian, etc. Literally over half the party had the "dead parent(s)" origin. The campaign does the most classic fantasy eacalation of stakes - clear the dungeon, save the town, save the country, clean up your personal messes so you can emotionally level up, and save the world. Lots of drinking, sudden raising of stakes, badass fight scenes, and even some romance. If you're going to introduce the world to "cartoons based on Dungeons and Dragons", C1 is a gift. With some polish, it'll translate incredibly.
I think what people forget is that by the time C1 closes and character creation for C2 officially began, these people had become *professional D&D players*. The cast went from 3 active players, 4 newbies, and 1 lapsed player to being 7 professional D&D players and a professional DM. So of course they came into it with more original characters - they'd been playing 5e once a week for nearly 3 years at that point, meaning they were comfortable enough to do wild backstories and not get constantly lost in the mechanics.
"Not get constantly lost in mechanics" - looks at the cast having to remember backwards math and normal game mechanics like any other D&D player I've met
i'm still watching C1, finished C2 though, and currently watching C3. If C2 gets its own animation, I think I'd be even more excited than for VM.
I resent the implication that the C1 characters are "less interesting" than the M9. M9's backstories often came off as overstuffed and melodramatic when all smushed together as one group (I still enjoyed it, but it's not easily adaptable). I genuinely prefer the relative simplicity of VM because it highlights how they respond to both each other and situations due to their inherent personalities, not simply their trauma and backstories.
@@vishaansingh1019 C1 charcaters are less interesting, there's simply less about them
I agree on the hoping they slow down for heart-felt moments. For me I think the test will be the Scanlan backstory stuff between the Briarwood and Conclave arcs. If they can properly flip that switch on his character for a new audience it will set the tone for character expectations for the rest of the show. So far while I still like these versions of Scanlan, Grog and Keyleth they're all missing a bit of what made them unique. For Scanlan it's his long con jokes and surprising wisdom. For Grog it's his aggressive nature he had towards anyone other than the Gnomes. The loveable idiot was a smaller part of his character that Pike usually brought out. For Keyleth it's missing her judgment towards the party's behavior. She had a naive view on how the world worked and her Aramente was about gaining experience and learning that not everything is black and white.
"That's not bread! It's powder mixed with water and then baked!"
*Jacob accidentally describes bread baking*
I'm still rooting for Mark Hamill to play Vecna
Holy shit is that a real possibility? I didn’t even know his name was in the mix. Not gonna create expectations though, we wanted mark hammill for vesemir and got not mark hammill, lol
@@nicolasscarinzi6117 it was a name that Matt just off handedly threw out during the q and a when the Kickstarter first dropped and I haven’t been able to stop thinking about it
@@nicolasscarinzi6117 I mean they got david tennant
Same!
I have no doubt they will get Mark in there for something. I would be surprised if he didn't already know about CR. He is definitely of our tribe, a nerd master! The Critical Role team said they reached out to voice actors they would love to work with so there's no way that list doesn't include Hamill! They got Dominic Monaghan, Tenant, Payton, Stephen Root, and so many other big names in VO.
Talking about season 1. The Kraken fight was especially bad because a lot of the cast, Marisha in particular, were drunk during the episode. They were not listening well or thinking clearly, and Keyleth was their only full spellcaster in a fight underwater that put the martials at severe disadvantage. They were also taking a lot of their anger for Scanlan out on Tary, which is in character, but it wasn't fun to watch them all be super petty with the character who was 3 levels lower than them. Also you are correct in that this was directly after the Chroma Conclave arc so they were kind of directionless.
Yes, the drinking was a little out of control that session. It was the hardest episode for me to watch.
Man I was unaware they were drunk since I was watching it while working night shifts like 4 years ago. I really found a LOT of the Aramente stuff boring with that being the peak so that seriously tracks.
"I think now that we're past the first three episodes it's going to slow down a little bit..."
Oh Spencer, you poor, unsuspecting soul. No spoilers, but it does NOT slow down, not by a long shot.
No it does not
I think she ment on rushing the plot and reveals not slow down as in calm down.
Something I was thinking about regarding the longer, drawn out sessions of their legit game being summed up quicker within the show itself. I think that fast paced tone we've been getting is a very nice way to speed up some of those lulls. Having the retrospective that their group has looking back and making it all "Fresh" with the Legend of Vox Machina show is a powerful tool. I am SUPER hopeful that we will see multiple seasons and get the full Campaign 1 in animated format.
Just need to pray to the Everlight that it happens!!! lol
Amazon already ordered a second season
Omg, I didn't know you two already got married, belated congratulations 💖
They've been married. She's pregnant.
@@matthewletexier I never heard Jacob call her wife before. Most of the time I see them playing the games and they refer to each other by character. 🤷♂️
@@couchcommandoiv5528 in the main XP channel he calls her his wife (seems hes even not used to it cuz he has to correct himself whenever he says Fiance) when she shows up for videos, like the D&D stories, and we got the announcement a couple months ago that she's pregnant. Honestly these two are adorable :P
@@patdav56 that's the impression I got. I think it's a guy thing, still catch my brother calling his wife girlfriend
Spoilers
The buffer arc you refered to as boring is the taryon arc and follows immediately after the conclave when Scanlan leaves and taryon is introduced. It wraps up lots of the hanging plot threads like the final challenge of the aramente, & the trip to the nine hells to kill the Rakshasa. There is a year long time skip and then it closes taryons arc.
I'm sure more stuff happened thas just what I remember and what I think may come up in however they choose to adapt that portion of the story.
Oh, we find out what happend to Kyleth's mom and Vax dies a little
We find out what happened to Keyleth's mom - no that - SPOILERS for C2 Episodes 100 through 108 - happened in C2.
She was brainwashed and trapped on the shattered island of Rumblecusp under the influence of an Astral Sea creature called Vokodo that the Nein killed semi-handily. It was our first little glimpse at the living city in the Astral Sea that comes up later in the story.
I'm like 2 minutes in and Spencer calls him a Soft Boi who will do well in prison 🤣
My favorite thing about TLOVM overall is that they took time and effort to give every member of VM some kind of personal story or journey they need to engage with outside the main Briarwood plot.
It’d be weeeeird if they didn’t
I thought everyone knew it was going to be 2 eps for the non-stream story that was originally 1 ep from the kickstarter. When the kickstarter blew up, they got enough to do the Briarwood Arc. Then when they made the Amazon prime deal, that made it exclusive but opened up funding to do the rest of the story as additional seasons. Season 1 was always Briarwood arc. Is that something that only us backers had access to?
My most looked forward moments in Vox: 1) Key's goldfish moment, 2) Pikes flashcards for Tarion.. I never laughed so hard on those two moments.
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I can tell you from experience that making up a name on the spot for an important NPC is a recipe for disaster. This is how you end up with a vampire who introduces himself in a dramatic moment as "I... am Cleatus." I have no idea where it came from, but my brain was all "No no no no... Too late." The table paused, and we all broke into insane laughter and had to take a long break. My players were awesome and kind of retconned it to be spelled "Kly'tuss" which sounds much more badass...
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I haven't watched campaign 1. The Percy mask moment in episode 6 wtf that was actually well executed
The No Mercy Percy moniker had to come from somewhere, right?
The series is amazing; if you have time, try to at least watch the Briarwood Arc from C1: it is absolutely worth it
Mcfarlane toys has a Vex figure coming out, you can preorder on amazon already. I cant wait for the the rest of the season, the show is soo fun. I really hope we get a mighty nein series after
Those figures are so ugly tho
47:15 "If you can't love yourself, how the hell you gonna love somebody else? Can I get an amen up in here?" - Ru Paul
Well, all of season 1 is out now and it's absolutely fantastic! I cannot wait for season 2!
100% love how they did Keyleth. I understood her character during the campaign, but I think more people are getting it now, which is great because Marisha did such a good job with her.
I found Critical Role when they were part way into campaign 2 thanks to seeing clips and people talking about it. Silly me was like, "I think I'll binge campaign 1 before I get into the 2nd one." I caught up to the live campaign 2 season when they were 2 or 3 episodes from the end and now I have to watch campaign 3 like a plebe and wait for new episodes every week.
I would not skip the first 15 episodes. I enjoyed it all, but that's just me.
Always worth it to watch these podcast episodes till the end but hearing jacob mention piss weasel again was an extra little treat.
This show is my encounter with anything D&D let alone critical role….except for that weird D&D movie that came out back in the 2000’s with one of the Wayne’s brothers.
I’ve always had an interest in wanting to try D&D but all my friends are too cool for it haha… the nerdiest thing they will do is watch things like Game of Thrones and Walking Dead or maybe the random Marvel movie. So I just discovered this whole new world with Critical Role and this great show. I almost didn’t watch the show because it was animated too because I usually have a hard time getting into animated shows that along the lines of South Park or Rick & Morty.
"Vax sounds a little bit like Solid Snake"
this is hilarious cause when I heard him for the first time all I could hear was Grimoire Weiss from Neir.
I want 5 or 6 seasons of Vox Machina with maybe some specials about before the series or one shots they’ve done. But then Mighty Nein could be like 9 seasons.
M9 had hour-wise a very small amount of actual content and story, most of it was the party fucking about and dodging plothooks left and right.
@@MightyGachiman That is... not correct? They followed plenty of plot hooks, they were just largely the character-focused hooks rather than the world hooks. There was the first arc where they were getting to know each other, but then they became pirates finding out more about Fjord's backstory. Then they went to Xhorhas for Nott's backstory. Then the Greying Wildlands and the Happy Fun Ball in order to save Yasha. Then they stopped a war (which was kind of the one big external plot hook they engaged with), then came Jester's arc, then the final arc with Lucien and a bit of Caleb's backstory mixed in.
@@frgscajs2018 They became pirates, touched upon Fjords story and then as quickly as possible abandoned it. And never came back to it out of own volition. And to take it even further, they didn't even intend to become pirates. It mostly just happened.
The story of the M9 is definitely not as easy to classify into arcs like the story of Vox Machina was. The campaign had a bunch of incredible moments, probably more so than campaign 1. But it is definitely fair to say that it was less plot-focussed, both in a character and a world sense.
@@Hunterfalke So I both agree with you while at the same time disagreeing with you. I think you are correct when you say M9 is harder to classify into arcs, and that it is less "plot-focused." However (and I don't mean this to come across condescending) I think Vox Machina gave people a particular idea of what following through on a "plot hook" is supposed to look like, and so when they talk about the M9 people say they abandon plot points when really they just... conclude them in a way people don't expect (although, as with any DnD campaign, I'm sure there genuinely are a few threads that were left unresolved by the end, I just think there are fewer than people imagine there are).
M9 is a much more character driven campaign. Not to say that the characters are necessarily better or more fleshed out than VM, it's just that VM were largely motivated by external, black-and-white threats they were compelled to resolve because they were heroes of Tal'Dorei. What ended up happening with M9 was that they were largely motivated by internal conflicts and personal goals, rather than missions or quests, and the campaign became about helping each member discover who they were and who they wanted to be in the wake of past traumas. As a result, plot threads tended to resolve when the character in focus had come to peace with something or discovered something about themselves, rather than a climactic battle or encounter. They went out to sea not to defeat Uk'otoa or pursue a particular concrete goal; Fjord wanted to find out more about what had happened to him, and what it meant for who he wanted to be. He explored the idea of being Uk'otoa's chosen, what that power would be like, but then decided that wasn't what he wanted to be, and so he turned his back on it, intent on focusing on the future and finding a better route towards personal power instead. It was a similar story with a lot of the others; confronting their backstories and the conflicts there wasn't necessarily about defeating them, like Percy and the Briarwoods, but about confronting how that situation had affected each character, and how they chose to grow beyond it.
Sorry about the mini essay, and believe that this isn't me angry-ranting at you or anything. I think the different structures and focuses of the two campaigns are fascinating, and that each one tells its own wonderful story; it's just that I think people's expectations from Vox Machina and from DnD games in general give them a perception that the M9 is a more incoherent story when there's actually a very consistent theme in how they approach the different threads of the campaign, it's just rather nontraditional.
@Hunterfalke they backed out of fjords story because of fjord. He didn't want to be a follower of ukatoa so why continue on that path. Also it's not hard to put the story in arcs at all.
Arc 1: goes from when they meet to the end of the harvest festival.
Arc 2: The jobs for the gentleman and taking down the iron shepherds.
Arc 3: fjords backstory, darktow and the intro to the happy fun Ball.
Arc 4: going to Xorhas, chasing obann, happy fun ball part 2, stopping the angel of irons.
Arc 5: The end of the war and rumblecusp.
Arc 6 : Lucian and the tombtakers
Epilogue: Taking down Trent, and what is everyone doing now
spellpoint magic can be pretty op, i ran with it for a bit but you dont realize just how many hold persons and suggestions players can cast with spell points. I really enjoy the more "story" balance with the class, like how Ary's god patron interacted with her, same goes for Sips from Fool's Gold (Dingo Doodles) and Pete from The Unsleeping City (Dimension20).
At 40 minutes in you guys just came in out of nowhere with that 20 score of Emotional Intelligence. Where can I get me a Headband of Emotional Intellect?
The social healthbar that you mentioned is exactly how i ran my boss battle with zariel in descent into avernus.
Honestly when I saw Percy put on the mask I thought it was pretty creepy because you couldn't see his face anymore so he didn't show any emotion while he was trying too shoot the servant
I get your reasoning on it being a bit awkward though
After they talked about what moment they want to see animated I asked myself the same question. Mine has to be Keyleth's Swan dive in all its glory.
Clarota is one of my favourite NPCs. You'll miss that if you skip but yeah nothing in the first 15 episodes comes up, however does introduce the characters.
As for the Kraken fight, they weren't supposed to kill it, that was the challenge
Aw, I really liked the K'Varn arc. Maybe it's just because it was the first Critical Role I was exposed to, but I fell in love with Matt's setting descriptions.
I can not see Conclave being only 1 season. I think if VM is shorter than 5 seasons it'll be extremely rushed. Remember the Briarwood arc was about 14 streams. That's a very small amount compared to what's left.
Such chaotic energy on this episode. The social gealth bar idea seems like it might work nicely in Wild Beyond the Witchlight...
A mighty Nein show could be soooooooooooo good
I'm not sure if the world is prepared for a stacked Nott, but I'm all here for it. I got into CR between the gap of Campaign 1 and 2. So with 2 I followed along, but 1 felt massive to try and watch.
Uk'otoa
The Traveler
Icky-Thong
Long May He Reign
To Zadash!
Stinky
Cupcake
Turtles
Chairs
We met at a circus
Well, You Couldn't
Sending
Fluffernutter
And I haven't finished CW yet...
Arcane Lounge Emotional check in time has been some of the best AL content... You guys are awesome 🥰🥰🥰
I didn’t watch C1 , but I am enjoying LOVM
I’m also like Spencer were I know about some things but never watched C1. I know about some things and things with their characters but never watched it at first hand since I joined with the Mighty Nien and I don’t mind that they focus on certain sections I just want more focus on Bell’s Hells and merch for them
I like grilled cheese with a nice sweet brioche bread and match that with some salty sharp yellow cheddar, a white cheddar or havarti, and some gruyere. So bomb. And lots of butter.
massive AOT vibes in ep 6
The narrative dice system by ffg used for their star wars and genesys rpgs have a strain level that doubles as a social health bar. From my limited experience with the game it works pretty well
We definitely need a separate podcast with spoilers lol
The mask 😷 kinda pays off though once you see Percy face at the end if episode 6
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The Doorngeon Master has spoken.
Congrats on the baby, guys! It’s fun to know that our babies will be born around the same time. May they grow up and continue to carry on our love of D&D!
Spoilers: brought to tears at remembering momma makes it back to her
I literally got an ad for Vox Machina right before the first Vox Machina question
I love this podcast so much 💜💜💜
You're all wee babbies. I was well out of college when Jack and Mark became a thing. XD
The kraken fight was great. Exactly what it should have been
The end of spoilers is 31:40
muchos gracias
It was Emirichu who did the Chad Sam Virgin Frodo thing on twitter.
And just like that, you declared war to the Pasta Nation. Brethrens, sharpen your pizza cutters, tomorrow, we march.
First rule of a podcast. Never eat during a podcast. Holy christ lol
bro I'm literally watching this video with that same blanket Spencer's got
I actually feel I could've used a little bit more of the characters just talking to one another, further exploring their dynamics and such. Though I haven't watched campaign one I'm aware of a lot about them, so I know things, but for a new watcher, they kinda only get so much out of each character during the season. Like Scanlan really just kinda is the horny bard joke save a few moments or Grog just being the meathead jock and I can see someone going "Ok, so this is it then? What a trash character." cause they don't know there's a lot more depth coming.
I also watched Jacksepticeye play that prison game, man time flies.
When I want to name people I go to google. So like if I want to name an elf I might google "elf names" or "elf surnames" and start reading through lists. Most of the time I will mispronounce a name the first time and love the sound then go with that instead of what the name should have been... then change the spelling so people actually pronounce it how I first messed it up.
My first DnD name was a half elf named Jonn Aadoe. It was a twist on John Doe. When John Doe's are given a middle initial it is A. John A Doe. So I went with Jonn as an odd spelling for John and Aadoe as a combination of A. Doe.
There is a Gilmore statue.
His belt becomes a solid snake and has an eye patch
Thanks Fun time.
That AOT thing hit hard when SPOILERS FOR 4/5/6 (idr which one) they literally had a giant rip off a roof and start doing titan things
tried to start campaign 1, and for some reason they had a bunch of stuff, no intro or anything and just right in the middle of the underdark, SPOTIFY SAID EP 1.. Though thinking of trying again and finding ep 1 propperly
That was episode 1. So the first episode of Campaign 1 isn't the beginning of the adventure like we see with the first episodes of Campaigns 2 and 3. The group had actually been playing the campaign for two years before the streams began as part of their private home game. Felicia Day offered to have them start doing a D&D stream for Geek and Sundry and the group decided to just transition their home game into the stream and continue where they left off rather than start all over again. It seems to start right in the middle of a quest because they had literally just started that quest in their home game right before making the move to Twitch. Give it another go. If you're curious about what was missed, they actually put out a video explaining the story covered in the home game as a way of catching people up to where the first episode finds the party. th-cam.com/video/kKixWUIgmKA/w-d-xo.html here's the pre-stream adventures of Vox Machina (known at the time as the SHITs, or the Super High Intensity Team, a name they abandoned once they realized they were going to stream the game)
I may be the only one who cares and this was such a tiny part of the podcast but PLEASE run a game using spell points for all classes! I think they're really underrated and would love to see what yall think about it.
Ummm guys? Where's the timestamp? I've seen all of C1 but others...
Also I liked most of the Daring Adventures time. :P
The rolls from wing stop 👀
one of these days that giant dice will go through the window or the camera
spirit bards - like the killer musicians from Kung-Fu Hustle?
She just doesnt want the dice to fall on your face bro lol
Podcast Time!
the baby is gonna be a budz lite
were did you get that large green d20 dice?
What was the scene you wanna see animated!!?? Don't let a bro hanging 😢
As somebody watching C1 rn, in which episode does the Vecna arc start so that I can skip the slog?
Don't skip! There are just a couple episodes that drag, but they're worth it overall as there are some really standout moments in there. For reference, I have watched both campaigns twice. C2 drags way more than C1 ever does, and does so multiple times. Especially if you're seen C2, try to hang in there for the handful of slow moments in C1. Enjoy it! :)
I second that don't skip, you'll miss a lot of moments that will make the vecna arc not hit as hard.
SHOW US THE VIDEO!!!!!! Please 🥺
I never thought it'd be that bloody and ...ya know also killed minors and animals it's definitely an Adult Show but it makes it so much better
I need to wacht thought campaine one and 2 I didn't know they were on a three lol
Havent laughed that hard in a while.
I convinced a friend to let me use the prime account just to watch vox.
I LOVE VAX
light rye
Vox Machina 2 Electric Boogaloo
There is a lot in the first 20 or so episodes that i wish they would animate into the show. I very much like how they capture the giant and drop it into the beholder lair, and when Grog offers it his ale and the giant drinks it all. Also the slayers take side quests, just edit the "problem" out.
I had a dim hope we might see Clarota(probably spelled wrong but the Illithid with the metal cap) with Matt doing that amazing voice again with additional effects to enhance it further.
Anyone heard about the hires at wizards. Looks bad
It's crazy vox as a show exists hopefully it'll do some good things for dnd.
The marvel and star wars shows are so bad... (Except Mando)
These episodes are too short! I would gladly listen for several hours.
Is audio listeners redundantly redundant?
Not a jab at y'all, everyone says it
No, because there are video listeners too
Just wish they would have started the story with the home game like the said they would. I remember when The briarwood ark was a high reward for the Kickstarter.
They said they had an original story for an animated special. Which we propably will never see, because General Krieg WAS the home game story. They did skip over the Underdark/Kraghammer arc, but that we mostly saw during the stream.
"Stardew Valley but Prison" Escapists 1 + Escapists 2 Edit: Homie found it like 2 minutes later
Congratz on pregnancy.
Spoilers for episode 3:
ngl I think they rushed the no mercy percy bit to fast and didn't use that scene specifically to characterize Percy as much as the actual campaign did.
What we got just felt like an introduction to the shadow demon thing (I haven't watched campaign one so idk completely what it is). If they used the lines where Percy listed off his parents names and the "I will kill you first" bit would have been amazing to put here. Not only slow down the pace and give some really good characterization to percy so we can bask in this mans insecurities, but make this moment impact hard after the fight sequence instead of the rushed feeling we all got. I'm not saying rushed like they didn't rescript it enough, but that the moment went by way to fast. If the mask had been left in the background and only used the way it was used in the next 3 episodes it would of been superb and would of had this great contrast so we know who is Percy and who is the mask.
Looks like a nice lesbian family.
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I have loyally watched Critical Role and love the show. This show is OK if you already like the cast, but it cannot be favorably compared in any way to Arcane.
Arcane and tLoVM are very different shows with very different goals and genres. Comparing them isn't really fair. Their only really thing in common is that they're animated. Even the style of animation is different. This doesn't make one better than another
@@matthewletexier I agree. When I visit a site featuring "Arcane" in the podcaster's title, I don't think tLoVM should be part of the conversation.
@@martinboso9819 this show existed way before Arcane was a thing. The two are completely unrelated.
@@martinboso9819 Arcane Arcade is just the name of their channel. It has nothing to do with Arcane the animated LoL show.
@@martinboso9819 Arcane Arcade is the name lmao tf are you high or some shit?
Ive only seen the first 3 eps so far but man is this show rough. It felt like it was trying way too hard to be "cool and adult" which felt odd coming from the crit role cast. It did gett better over the few eps but man was it surprising to see that they okayed that 1st episode
I recommend Ep 4
I gotta admit, the first episode was rough. The comedy was fairly bad, the characters extremely one-note and i didn't enjoy it all that much. It wasn't awful or anything, but just... I wouldn't watch it if it hadn't had the CritRole team behind it.
Now that they've arrived at the Briarwood arc, i enjoy it a ton. Animation has improved, it is tonally far better, great running gag with the door and seeing some of the moments animated as well as animated moments that only work in a show (like Percy spinning the gun barrel, drowning out the music with the clicking noise.). Storyboarding also noticeably improved, with setups and payoffs.
By now, i can say i enjoy this show. It does have the misfortune of being the first animated show i've watched after Arcane, which was an absolute masterpiece.
@@Hunterfalke i think that might be the exact reason the animation isnt clicking with me because arcane was just leagues ahead of anything else and im subconsciously craving more
GNOOOOOOOME NUUUUUTTTTTSSSSSS
Im sorry im the one to say this but i just sat through jacob talking about all the spoilers for vox machina and then he says put a stamp but there is no stamp and i just got spoiled. :\
This is the wokest don’t assume lgbtqahdr people I’ve ever seen
Vox Machina is fine but it doesn’t have in-universe Yu-gi-oh
I really liked Campaign 1 of Critical Role, and I had high hopes for the animation to take me back to those days.
Unfortunately, all I got was violence and dick jokes.
Seeing as how Campaigns 2 and 3 have become more "performance" and less "people playing DnD" ...I should have expected this.
Good to see them having success. They're all good people. But, I'm happy I didn't pay for it.
It's not at all family friendly. Critical role itself never has been. I find Scanlan to be the worst part about the series. But I've always felt that about critical role. He's the reason that "bards are pervs" are such a huge cliche and extremely problematic elements at many gaming tables. That said, the series is really great, except for all that... some of the gore is a bit dumb... it's like people are made out of exploding jello... but that's a problem with most tv gore.
Dont like crude humor, and LoVM is just that with sex. Kinda why I dropped off CR for a while to watch EvenFall and Avnia for a while. While Kurt (EvenFall character) is basically Quagmire with magic, its funny in a chaotic way. CR find it fun to beat up a young soldier who thought they were inspiring and immediately hazed them till they were near death. Yeah its fake, but doesn't make the story any less unsettling, and not in a good way. Its just messed up. There are other moments too in the series that was just off putting but I managed to get through it all and dont plan on watching an animated version of it.
Of course you like it if all you world spinning around Critical Rol