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@@fun-damentals6354 Aint no way Afghanistan is south Asia bro. I mean sure the once huge clump now called Pak, Ind and Bang are South Asia but Afg is like the middle south east.
More coding jobs for me. I love the existential crisis caused by these videos and news of lay offs. That scares away skilled potentials as well as opening up roles occupied by less skilled hires taking up seats.
The best thing about Agile I heard someone say is that it would be so ingrained that people wouldn't have to learn it anymore and agile certificates would become irrelevant. That means also skipping the retrospectives and all the unncesesary parts and keep the part when everyone meets regularly to check if the requirements are the same and if anyone is lagging behind and needs help.
Software Engineering != Web Development. There are jobs out there where code performance and a full unterstanding of computer science play a major role.
Well yes, there are many fields where performance has a great impact. But there are people who over-excessively care about performance where it doesn't even matter.
More so, web development is not even programming, it is the bottom of the barrel. It is so hilarious when lowly webbies project their pathetic views to the rest of the industry.
tbh webdevs should finally start caring about its performance because regular tab uses way above 50 MiB of RAM and no one bats an eye. www was a mistake, current web is shit, all these excessive resources to drain your data, fuck up your attention and fix bugs which would not be even there if not the amount of unnecessary code ffs
@@janekszpontyn8746I am mostly backend Dev but knows some things in front end, browsers now a day become like a VM instance on each tab you open because of the sheer compute it needs, unless web UI becomes console based, browsers will continue to draw alot of resources
XD 3 ways to get a split keyboard - buy a pre-split keyboard - become 100x asm wizard who types 300 words and break keyboard into two - Code in js and and bang head on it to keyboard to split it half
To make it clear: im not being sinical, genuinely interested: Did it help you when actually programming? You said it helped you do better in the school system and to impress some people, Im kinda on the fence on this whole clean code thing Hand to heart, do you have the feeling it helped you in the actual craft of software dev?
@@gintonic5443 Of course it helps. When I hear that clean code makes production issues I can't help laughing. I literally worked for a company where I had to refactor code in order to make it more readable and make production issues easier to repair. And yes I followed clean code (maybe I had longer methods than 4-6 lines) but as a result production issues were easier to follow. If you defy principles it is only because you are too lazy to read. Of course, some principles in clean code are outdated but since then there are more principles that were built that it is good to know. My recommendation -> stop watching youtube videos in believe that you can learn complex things from short videos.
@@gintonic5443you won’t get an answer. There are some things in SWE that have cults around them. You’ll see the same with unit test enthusiasts. If you’re running a startup, or a new product in a big company, or something deliverable to a client, actually anything but an already successful money making product, and you have a bunch of these cult followers in your company, your product will not see light in years, you’re gonna burn all the money and go bankrupt. These are more code for the sake of code thing rather than code to deliver value and generate revenue
@@gintonic5443 With the scale of class projects, I don't see how it can help with getting a better grade in them. And there are a couple of aspects of Clean Code that can be contradictory. The general idea is that methods should do a single thing and code should be self-describing (or have a comment if it just can't be).
I noticed that people read code like they were reading an essay. Arguments were had over correct commenting grammer style. The computer does not care. This is not an essay. Yes it must be readable. No, perfect does not exist. But that is how it is judged.
More like for all kinds of programming that is not code monkeying (all that web trash and alike). Industrial control? Performance is paramount. Finance (not only HFT, all infrastructural stuff) - performance is paramount. Scientific compute? Obviously. System programming? Absolutely. But code monkey trash believe that "performance that matters is how quickly they churn out features". Guess that's because they also believe that CS degrees are scam. I have nothing but contempt for this kind of "developers".
You need a new graphics card if your pc is too slow to run gaming code, who ever heard of them rewriting a tripple a games code to make it run on a raspberry pi?? like my man in the video said if you want to make games, look up his link they might have a course on it.
Don't mind him, he was just viciously targeting Primeagean (especially with the Vim joke that preceded/succeeded the split keyboard joke). EDIT Prime reacted to this video: th-cam.com/video/2UvHiH7zJLU/w-d-xo.html
@@a.m.4154 yeah I guess, though I would say that it's true that vim productivity is a fallacy because not everyone it going to get productive by using vim. It's an editor, a tool, and like all the software tools or tools in general, there will be people who feel comfortable using it and people who don't
Or maybe organizing as programmers in some way to assure that you have the time for frequent enough breaks where you're not having to erode your joints away, rather than being competitive with each other about how much more productive you can be than the next person and pushing each other to destroy themselves to feed personal egos and lick boot.
If Arch is too hard use Fedora, if Neovim is too hard use VS Code/Codium with the Neovim plugin. As for NixOS...yeah there's no saving you when it comes to that road (Ex-NixOS user here)🤣
Don't do NixOS. That's some Emacs level of time wasting and not valuing your one life... unless you're gonna be ``deploying'' OSes on a hundred computers.
@@noisetide NixOS is the greatest distro.... 4 months i spend configuring(still configuring) it well worth it for my $250 per month job and non existent social life
I moved to systems programming because it easier than modern Web dev. Sure there's a lot to learn, but you are always learning the classics and fundamentals. With JS, unless you're learning React like a good boy, there's no guarantee that your framework won't fall out of grace in the future
A scam perpetuated by us Emacs users so people use an inferior editor and then leave the cucked Lua and Vimscript for the chad Elisp (and play Tetris too)
Clean code Is actually really important If you want to have a maintainable code base but when people follow SOLID religiously this Is when It becomes a problem. Leet code has some cool programming tasks but I want to treat It as a bunch of fun coding challenges not something that determines whether I will get the job or not. I've switched to vim but not because of productivity, I didn't become more productive but I became more comfortable doing my job, a lot less strain on my wrists because I almost never use my mouse and that's why It's hard for me to look back on other code editors
the backend has usually much more business logick though. front end can be hard dependently on application but business logic is always the core of application and always hard. Front end is more closer to painting than backend.
Frontend is a nightmare in modern era, especially when they demand you make complex interactive widgets, games, 3d, webgl, wasm. It's a nightmare, it's at this point you're supposed to tell the client you're busy as an excuse because it's a big rabbit hole task & time that would go wasted which you could be using on serving other clients. Backend just need to fetch data, store it & that's it in some normal cases.
@@atabac I already told you that frameworks require knowledge, qualifications, skills & so do the libraries for 3D engines, etc., all you're saying is that load up a lib & it's done. Which is nonsense, front-end is crafted to the liking of the client, what their preference is about & certain designs require multiple changes until a client accepts it so that you can cash in for your effort.
@@Kioki1-x8p they are called frameworks and engines to abstract you the difficult parts like 3d animation and physics. I pointed that out because you said its difficult to make widgets, games,3d, webgl and wasm in front-end. The way you do animations, widgets is to use existing engines and frameworks to do the hard part of the job, you dont need to write your own unless those engines and framework can't do what you want. I think handling change requirements is not really that difficult if you had communicated it from the start. But you getting ditched by your clients is part of the game, you just need to get experienced on it.
Learning to code was my worst decision ever, but since it's been years can't go back now. Wether I'll work in this industry or not I don't care, just gotta use this knowledge and expand it now. By doing stuff I care about.
There are plenty of instances when performance(and memory consumption) matters. Often in such instances the program becomes unusable, if it's not fast enough, or takes up too much memory. There's just different levels of performance awareness. And any debate about performance without specifics is meaningless. And if you're doing something where performance doesn't matter at all, you're probably doing something shitty.
about degrees: my landlord once told me when someone applies for a job for him he indeed looks for degrees. he doesnt care what degree and how good but when someone has a degree it shows they are able to finish when they start something.
Makes the biggest complaints about the tech industry in a way that sounds like he's got more spite than experience. Then, hocks a web app after calling pretty much the entire tech industry a fraud. Which is it, my dude?
Some of your points give a distinct “Tell me you’ve never worked on a big, complex project without telling me you’ve never worked on a big, complex project” vibe…
Cracking coding interview is definitely a scam lol, if you want a very good book that actually spends multiple chapters on BIg O alone, get a pragmatic approach to data structures and algorithms
dude these hot takes hit hard. when i was 15 and was getting into programming more seriously (like a decade ago) my ex-gf's dad was a swe at Microsoft and he gave me Clean Code and urged me to read it to be a better programmer. looking back what an insane thing to do to a poor kid just getting started lmao and dude that book is an asolute slog, i barely paid attention, thank god we broke up
10 years in big tech, had startup before. My experience: - functions are good - objects are good ONLY for data storage (json, proto). Besides, OOP is dangerous. - avoid interfaces - avoid layering - avoid over abstraction - avoid runtime dependency injection - avoid micro services If you need to make a design decision, choose the one with fever lines of code. Just write the damn code, put repetitive parts in functions.
I've been working for 20 years and I can agree with the "functions are good" sentence from your list... I have absolutely no idea why people hate on OOP.
@@aradipe Initialization of objects can get pretty troublesome. Often leads to "impossible to read" code like factory pattern and runtime dependency injections. Besides the possible states of an object gets out of hand and makes automated testing very difficult. In my recent implementations I went for json/proto based state storage and only functions for everything else (I code mostly C++ and Typescript, weird combo indeed :) and it works quite well. Besides I am not a "pure function" zealot. Just moving repeated code into a method makes things more manageable.
What vim? Vim motions is to type code like in vim. This is an alternative to usual way of writing stuff. You can apply this in any editor. Vim the editor (also neovim) are bare-bone editors. Similar to VScode but vim has even less stuff in it and you need install and configure it all yourself. Both are interesting to learn but you have to ask yourself "Would you have time and patience learning those stuff?" I would say that I enjoyed learning vim motions.
00:33 - The first error was to have Pull Requests. But if you are in the rare case of contributing in a low trust environment (aka free software), the second error is to make it long. The third error is that thinking a PR with code harder to read but with fewer lines will help people to read ... It's by definition harder to read.
I tried vim just cuz of the word of mouth, didnt like it, and quit. Something interesting is that months later i honestly got fed up with arbritary unmemorable IDE shortcuts which i often had to make myself, only to always forget and slowly backspace stuff away or move with control and arrow keys to the end and start of lines. I think the whole productivity thing is ridiculous. We spend more time thinking about and reading code than writing code, especially earlier on in our journeys. I really dont see how deleting a line slightly faster will have any meaningful impact in the long term. But the thing i hated is when i had an idea so clearly in my head and i had to slowly type it out or edit it in, tapping the arrow keys repeatedly one at a time and then moving back to home row and then back to arrow keys. It doesnt matter, but i didnt like it. Most of the time coding is spent thinking, but when i do have a small idea for certain in mind i just find it so flow breaking to take so long to modify the code to make it work. Watching more varied videos from the more varied sphere, ranging from C89 boomers to game devs goes to show that it doesnt matter what you use as long as you know how to use it. I think of it moreso as a hobby and something i do and learn for fun. I enjoy the simplicity compared to all the other IDEs and editors which take up half the screen with so much noisy UI and project trees and error logs. I also like how it makes me learn the deeper level stuff like how to use the terminal and to understand what goes on when i click that play button in Visual Studio. I know the video is mostly a joke but i really wanna get this out of my system because i dont wanna seem be one of the stereotypical hipsters. I do hate how hard it is to get it up and running, so i see myself eventually switching to other editors which take care of compilation and managing projects with more files, but i think its fun and i think it helps me build more confidence in programming and computers in general. Anyways, love the video bigbox, but maybe chill out a bit, though i cant speak for everyone in terms of how its going.
Vim is for the servers, where there is only nano and vim. And are you really going to pick nano? You'd have to be mad to do your regular 9-5 coding in vim.
Raw vim is insanity for most tasks. But a beefier customized neovim gets pretty strong. May not be a replacement for an IDE, especially not a specialized one, at least without that barrier of entry with configuration, but it remains strong for text editing. Nothing stopping someone from coding in Neovim and taking advantage of an IDE to compile a massive tech stack as i had to do recently with my training. I was surprised how underwhelming some IDEs are for text editing out of the box. I frankly dont understand why people are so polarized on such a personal topic like text editor. Ive read blogs about people experimenting with coding without syntax highlighting or inline errors because they find those distracting. Its crazy, and they did say they do turn errors on sparringly, but if they like it or wanna try it out, let em be.
There is a lot more to code besides web pages, like embedded systems, actual hardware. Though then again, those usually end up being electrical engineers, so maybe that's part of the scam too... hm.
@@leozetalol That's what I'm learning now!!! 😭 If wish I could tell my past self "Kid...stop wasting time on JS, ReactJS, NextJS, PutaJS 🙄 crap and learn some REAL programming!!" I'm learning Linux, C/C++, Rust, Data Structures and Algorithms, and editing with Vim (because sometimes you don't have the luxury of VS Code and a mouse)...
No code rules: I think webdev is a scam as an easy way to get to tech jobs in general. OOP is also one of the biggest scam since it generated clean code, design patterns and agile methods
The funny schizophrenic part of all this is how they went from "everyone should learn how to code" to "people should stop learning how to code" in just a few years.
It scares me how many people may take this video seriously. I understand, that TDD, Clean Code and Design Patterns don't solve everything, but saying the exact opposite is even more damaging.
Brilliant video! The problem with all these techniques, approached, and technologies are very useful. The problem is that Sales & Marketing marketed these as silver bullets. That is where the scam is - companies thinking that selling a product or a training course delivers way in and out of itself.
ok, so seriously talking for a sec: as an arch and neovim user and professional developer: yeah, vim/nvim is not gonna make anyone more efficient - but it is just so freaking fun to work with. Not everyone will agree, and that's totally fine! Whatever rocks your boat. But to me, personally, I just love the fact that I can have a keyboard-only fast IDE that doubles as my terminal and triples as a general-purpose text editor. I can write and debug c/c++ code with it, I can write python scripts, etc. - and I can do all my usual shell stuff... plus also writing normal raw text when I need. And it's all configured to my liking. I understand people who don't want it, and I def hate the "I'm better than you 'cause I use vi/vim/nvim" approach. I just... really enjoy using it. Same goes for arch: I have a minimal OS which does what I want and is always updated. I didn't need to work too hard to get it (compared to, say, LFS or gentoo), but it's also very versatile and properly optimized. Throw in i3 or whatever other tiling WM, and all the clatter which drives my ADHD crazy is just gone. No unnecessary GUIs, no need for the mouse. It's heaven for my stupid brain which can't deal with too many things at the same time. I don't expect others to share this concept, as I hope they accept my "weirdness" for the computers I use. That's it.
I wish you had a company and I could work for it :) because in the 5 years I was a FrontEnd developer I didn't use any of those stuff in my codes (TDD, Design Patterns, Clean Code) and now that I'm looking for a new job, I feel like I should learn them for the sake of interviews...
@@ilikegeorgiabutiveonlybeen6705 I never wrote tests for my code but I feel like I should've because there were occasions when I changed something and I thought it works fine but then I realized that change made other part of the code fail and I think if I had written tests then I found out about the bug sooner.
@@ronitgurjar5747 well yeah I worked in awful companies which didn't care about good quality for their apps and we didn't learned much about best practices and standard ways of coding... that's why I feel miserable now that I want to find a new job because most companies require the knowledge of tdd, ddd, oop, functional programming, design patterns, etc
@@ilikegeorgiabutiveonlybeen6705 Cause you don't want things to break. Automated frontend testing is huge. Especially to ensure things like login doesn't break. In a more general sense, TDD is just the code version of detailed requirements.
Great, because I needed yet another reason the dive deeper into depression. Now it turns out everything Im struggling to learn about is either obsolete or a scam, there are no rules, no path to follow, you either know how to code or you dont, sink or swim. This shit is as impossible as Force training, no wonder the galaxy is brimming with Dark Jedi.
This video is extremely negative and I disagree with it. It actually seems very neurotic, and I would ignore it. This part of the internet (memey videos about CS/software jobs) seems to repeat the same things over and over again and are happy to join eachother repeating the same things, rather than being interested in the tech. Someone hears about layoffs, going to uni, this is bad, this is bad. It is all irrelevant to individual people. Software and tech is a very interesting part of the world and these types of videos just try to get views by playing up some neurotic repeated narratives without any depth, with the guise that it is a "meme". This video really does not reflect reality and is just depressing on purpose :( I think noone should watch these videos. Software engineers would find them shallow, and people wanting to learn will be scared away. I think it is good to just keep learning and it will help you to stand out from the people who became obsessed with hesitating about what to do because they follow "software industry news" on youtube.
Scrum is actually quite far from the Agile Manifesto... especially if used by management people as a way to be able to say "we're doing agile" while still acting like the kind of people that Fred Brooks was making fun of in 1975 ("nine women can deliver a baby in 1 month" and the like).
I dunno man, why would just not learn half a day to use Vim, you can use it anywhere, your favourite IDE or even you browser, and at least you will get is easier shortcuts.
3:35 Well if your code is impossible to read and follow, you'll have a harder time shipping new features efficiently. Modularity is also very helpful for it. The problem I see is people forgetting about the golden mean and just getting shit done instead of insisting on following a specific paradigm to be more "perfect". You shouldn't be sloppy, but you also shouldn't obsessively follow rules that make things slower and harder because they're not universally relevant
whoever says frontend is easy, they should try css, cos css is so tricky, there is no error or warning, u gotta figure out yourself. Frontend is much more difficult than backend cos there are so many things u have to learn
Layout and positioning is 90% of css. Everything else is window dressing. Learn layout and positioning, the box-model, how 'inherit' works, learn about the default user agent stylesheet and you've got the most of the important stuff covered imo
Oh my if this isn't so fucking true. No, we should actually absolutely not spent time refactoring the triple nested array since it maximally processes 13 shallow objects, for the users. Holy fuck man give it a rest...
To be fair, there's also the "It's 2024, maybe we shouldn't be starting new projects by using a copy of our decade plus old VB code as a base." Literally a conversation I had yesterday... Actually it was more along the lines of "I'm not supporting that."
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note: this video is entirely satirical, like i dont actually believe vim is a scam or split keebs or code performance. obviously this is NOT a video where i go through the nuanced takes of programming and understanding the utility of a technology/concept in context to your problem. this video is a joke
@@amilcarbarca7290 It is quite Brilliant
satire? but i agree to almost everything
Satire is but a way to pointing out what is ofen true without becoming a victim.
It gives real anxiety because we know it's true
Another scam
"dropped out of Udemy and kicked out of free code camp"
Why u gotta be so accurate bro 😭😭😭
Too realistic
Felt ousted
"but more often then not it's just to sell you a course." and a few sentences later: "...Brilliant..."
Brilliant :>
Shameless AF
Man has to eat bro.. you need to take the lesson.
@@PrayagRaj81Sure, but being a hypocrite does not help with your credibility
Do as I say, not as I do
:>
Prime is going to react to this someday
yeah he's gonna be pissed
Help me who is prime
@@bitterthread6794look up Primeagen
@@bitterthread6794 a TH-camr
He'll probably react this week... 'cause I'm gonna tell 'im!!!!
Bro cracking all south asian jokes like there's no tomorrow.
you mean indian?
@@njw6146 i mean south asian
@@mahmudzaman5445 as in...indian?
@@njw6146 you know pakistan exists too ey?
@@fun-damentals6354 Aint no way Afghanistan is south Asia bro. I mean sure the once huge clump now called Pak, Ind and Bang are South Asia but Afg is like the middle south east.
My man called everything a scam only to shill another scam in the end
Like primeagen: "Bootcamps suck, btw here's my boot link"
Brilliant is a scam now ?
@@kaantax8666it never was not one lol
@@samsmokes3100 i used it, seemed pretty good to me ?
@@samsmokes3100 What's scammy about it?
The twist is... This video is a scam!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👀
More coding jobs for me. I love the existential crisis caused by these videos and news of lay offs. That scares away skilled potentials as well as opening up roles occupied by less skilled hires taking up seats.
Me when the Brilliant shilling hits
@@JasBojan the problem is that it isn't shooing away any one skilled but the newComers .
@@n8o_ true
Yes, it is a scam, I watched by the preview with the icon of IntelliJ and no words about IntelliJ
If Fireship had an even more pessimistic younger brother. I meant realistic.
Fireship's younger indian cousin
Does this guy go on as much about AI with not so subtle undertones of libertarian propaganda?
@@VivekGawande1 hahaha
I thought this was Fireship's alt account tbh
Burnt Ship
Now this was brutally targeted at Prime. He is in shambles right now.
Will he ever recover from this? NO.
@@depayanmondal Can't wait for him to see this
He is shook!
Nah. Prime knows that Clean Code is a load of horshit, so he's not totally wrekt.
Someone need to let him know about this video. I want to see him in shambles after reacting 😂😂
High quality demotivational content, love it
you just woke up and chose violence HAHA. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Now i genuinely believe BigBoxSWE is an Indian. That accent hit close to home.
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The bakwas hit me off guard. Wasn't expecting it at all.
Yepp,😂😂
The best thing about Agile I heard someone say is that it would be so ingrained that people wouldn't have to learn it anymore and agile certificates would become irrelevant.
That means also skipping the retrospectives and all the unncesesary parts and keep the part when everyone meets regularly to check if the requirements are the same and if anyone is lagging behind and needs help.
Software Engineering != Web Development.
There are jobs out there where code performance and a full unterstanding of computer science play a major role.
Well yes, there are many fields where performance has a great impact. But there are people who over-excessively care about performance where it doesn't even matter.
More so, web development is not even programming, it is the bottom of the barrel. It is so hilarious when lowly webbies project their pathetic views to the rest of the industry.
tbh webdevs should finally start caring about its performance because regular tab uses way above 50 MiB of RAM and no one bats an eye. www was a mistake, current web is shit, all these excessive resources to drain your data, fuck up your attention and fix bugs which would not be even there if not the amount of unnecessary code ffs
@@janekszpontyn8746I am mostly backend Dev but knows some things in front end, browsers now a day become like a VM instance on each tab you open because of the sheer compute it needs, unless web UI becomes console based, browsers will continue to draw alot of resources
I cant find those jobs(the ones which are not web development) on the linkedin. How to find them?
I DONT need to buy a split keyboard...
I broke mine in half while learning JavaScript :D
XD 3 ways to get a split keyboard
- buy a pre-split keyboard
- become 100x asm wizard who types 300 words and break keyboard into two
- Code in js and and bang head on it to keyboard to split it half
This is hilarious
@@vaisakh_km designing one is an option too
BRAZIL 🇧🇷 MENTIONED!! 🇧🇷 🇧🇷 🇧🇷 0:54
REEEPRESENTED! 😂
NHK very cool
I'm hearing primagen's voice when reading this
@@VimOneLove yeah, one of my favorite animes
@henriquemarques6196 nobody calls
Clean Code really helped early in my career 😂 Went from B- to A+ student and blew away my mentors at my internships.
To make it clear: im not being sinical, genuinely interested:
Did it help you when actually programming?
You said it helped you do better in the school system and to impress some people,
Im kinda on the fence on this whole clean code thing
Hand to heart, do you have the feeling it helped you in the actual craft of software dev?
@@gintonic5443 Of course it helps. When I hear that clean code makes production issues I can't help laughing. I literally worked for a company where I had to refactor code in order to make it more readable and make production issues easier to repair. And yes I followed clean code (maybe I had longer methods than 4-6 lines) but as a result production issues were easier to follow. If you defy principles it is only because you are too lazy to read. Of course, some principles in clean code are outdated but since then there are more principles that were built that it is good to know. My recommendation -> stop watching youtube videos in believe that you can learn complex things from short videos.
@@gintonic5443you won’t get an answer. There are some things in SWE that have cults around them. You’ll see the same with unit test enthusiasts. If you’re running a startup, or a new product in a big company, or something deliverable to a client, actually anything but an already successful money making product, and you have a bunch of these cult followers in your company, your product will not see light in years, you’re gonna burn all the money and go bankrupt. These are more code for the sake of code thing rather than code to deliver value and generate revenue
@@gintonic5443 With the scale of class projects, I don't see how it can help with getting a better grade in them. And there are a couple of aspects of Clean Code that can be contradictory. The general idea is that methods should do a single thing and code should be self-describing (or have a comment if it just can't be).
I noticed that people read code like they were reading an essay. Arguments were had over correct commenting grammer style.
The computer does not care. This is not an essay. Yes it must be readable. No, perfect does not exist. But that is how it is judged.
Leetcode isn't like a mechanic building a car, its like a mechanic building an engine maybe
rebuilding
It’s like a mechanic building a transmission and having to manually machine all the gears and screws themselves
No
mechanic building 200 engine...
Leetcode Sigma grindset
A mechanic building an engine but in O(1) time
3:31 except for game programming, because if you cant make it fast, you can't run it, if you cant run it, you cant code it
Yeah the catch is this video is a scam too.
More like for all kinds of programming that is not code monkeying (all that web trash and alike). Industrial control? Performance is paramount. Finance (not only HFT, all infrastructural stuff) - performance is paramount. Scientific compute? Obviously. System programming? Absolutely. But code monkey trash believe that "performance that matters is how quickly they churn out features". Guess that's because they also believe that CS degrees are scam. I have nothing but contempt for this kind of "developers".
In game programming, performance is a feature, so it goes into "shipping features" category.
You need a new graphics card if your pc is too slow to run gaming code, who ever heard of them rewriting a tripple a games code to make it run on a raspberry pi?? like my man in the video said if you want to make games, look up his link they might have a course on it.
@lambtypeguy-cd4tp They are optimized enough to run, "running smoothly" is sadly not an obligatory feature for most video game genres.
As a backend engineer working in postgres and Spring boot. Yeah pretty accurate.
I would argue having a split keyboard really helps with the health of your hands if your job is writing code all day
ESPECIALLY the Kinesys Advantage
Don't mind him, he was just viciously targeting Primeagean (especially with the Vim joke that preceded/succeeded the split keyboard joke).
EDIT
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@@a.m.4154and the system76 laptop, it's all coming together
@@a.m.4154 yeah I guess, though I would say that it's true that vim productivity is a fallacy because not everyone it going to get productive by using vim. It's an editor, a tool, and like all the software tools or tools in general, there will be people who feel comfortable using it and people who don't
Or maybe organizing as programmers in some way to assure that you have the time for frequent enough breaks where you're not having to erode your joints away, rather than being competitive with each other about how much more productive you can be than the next person and pushing each other to destroy themselves to feed personal egos and lick boot.
I can already hear Prime laughing as he gets called out every 30 seconds
Well, Shit I fell for the vim and arch linux scam, and I'm on my way to nixos scam. There's no saving me.
If Arch is too hard use Fedora, if Neovim is too hard use VS Code/Codium with the Neovim plugin.
As for NixOS...yeah there's no saving you when it comes to that road (Ex-NixOS user here)🤣
I'm already at the bottom of the snow flake sea bro... ❄
I'm the scam itself.
@@noisetide Once you go flake you can't hit the brake. The next level is Rust or Bust...😅
Don't do NixOS. That's some Emacs level of time wasting and not valuing your one life... unless you're gonna be ``deploying'' OSes on a hundred computers.
@@noisetide NixOS is the greatest distro....
4 months i spend configuring(still configuring) it well worth it for my $250 per month job and non existent social life
Just start coding in the language and the catagory that matches with your preference. Don't get distracted and make it fun.
You got me in frontend part. As a backend enthusiast that's 100% true
"At this point, a good rule of thumb is that if Uncle Bob has a book on it, you really shouldn't be using it"
😂😂😂
If “Frontend is easy” is said by insecure Backend then “Vim productivity is a scam” is said by insecure non-Vim users. Simple words
Why can't we have both? Both are good
I moved to systems programming because it easier than modern Web dev. Sure there's a lot to learn, but you are always learning the classics and fundamentals.
With JS, unless you're learning React like a good boy, there's no guarantee that your framework won't fall out of grace in the future
A scam perpetuated by us Emacs users so people use an inferior editor and then leave the cucked Lua and Vimscript for the chad Elisp (and play Tetris too)
@@stefanalecu9532all you peons. i use ed in my terminal to hash out some arm v6 asm to patch my 3ds games.
@@stefanalecu9532 Serious question: How do you get anything done if all you do is play Tetris all day?
Clean code Is actually really important If you want to have a maintainable code base but when people follow SOLID religiously this Is when It becomes a problem. Leet code has some cool programming tasks but I want to treat It as a bunch of fun coding challenges not something that determines whether I will get the job or not. I've switched to vim but not because of productivity, I didn't become more productive but I became more comfortable doing my job, a lot less strain on my wrists because I almost never use my mouse and that's why It's hard for me to look back on other code editors
the backend has usually much more business logick though. front end can be hard dependently on application but business logic is always the core of application and always hard. Front end is more closer to painting than backend.
Prime will never recover from this.
Frontend is a nightmare in modern era, especially when they demand you make complex interactive widgets, games, 3d, webgl, wasm. It's a nightmare, it's at this point you're supposed to tell the client you're busy as an excuse because it's a big rabbit hole task & time that would go wasted which you could be using on serving other clients. Backend just need to fetch data, store it & that's it in some normal cases.
graphics engine handles that. front end developers just use existing frameworks. software engineers build the frameworks and engines.
@@atabac You have no idea regarding any of that, so just leave it bro.
@@Kioki1-x8p your doing it wrong man
@@atabac I already told you that frameworks require knowledge, qualifications, skills & so do the libraries for 3D engines, etc., all you're saying is that load up a lib & it's done. Which is nonsense, front-end is crafted to the liking of the client, what their preference is about & certain designs require multiple changes until a client accepts it so that you can cash in for your effort.
@@Kioki1-x8p they are called frameworks and engines to abstract you the difficult parts like 3d animation and physics. I pointed that out because you said its difficult to make widgets, games,3d, webgl and wasm in front-end. The way you do animations, widgets is to use existing engines and frameworks to do the hard part of the job, you dont need to write your own unless those engines and framework can't do what you want. I think handling change requirements is not really that difficult if you had communicated it from the start. But you getting ditched by your clients is part of the game, you just need to get experienced on it.
Bro violated every tech blud in existence
bro is a webdev whose sole motivation for being on a computer is nothing other than money, and therefore has next to zero passion for the craft
Do you know what is absolutely scam? Watch this video from someone that absolutely Doesn't know anything about programming
Learning to code was my worst decision ever, but since it's been years can't go back now. Wether I'll work in this industry or not I don't care, just gotta use this knowledge and expand it now. By doing stuff I care about.
There are plenty of instances when performance(and memory consumption) matters.
Often in such instances the program becomes unusable, if it's not fast enough, or takes up too much memory.
There's just different levels of performance awareness. And any debate about performance without specifics is meaningless.
And if you're doing something where performance doesn't matter at all, you're probably doing something shitty.
about degrees: my landlord once told me when someone applies for a job for him he indeed looks for degrees. he doesnt care what degree and how good but when someone has a degree it shows they are able to finish when they start something.
Loving all the Indian culture references. Have me cracking up.
100% agree. Kids are being scammed with scrum and hackerranks, while at the same time having to compete with sweat shop coders in india.
Makes the biggest complaints about the tech industry in a way that sounds like he's got more spite than experience. Then, hocks a web app after calling pretty much the entire tech industry a fraud. Which is it, my dude?
Some of your points give a distinct “Tell me you’ve never worked on a big, complex project without telling me you’ve never worked on a big, complex project” vibe…
Cracking coding interview is definitely a scam lol, if you want a very good book that actually spends multiple chapters on BIg O alone, get a pragmatic approach to data structures and algorithms
Thank you
that one guy who didn't understand pointers in C++ as a CS freshman :
dude these hot takes hit hard. when i was 15 and was getting into programming more seriously (like a decade ago) my ex-gf's dad was a swe at Microsoft and he gave me Clean Code and urged me to read it to be a better programmer. looking back what an insane thing to do to a poor kid just getting started lmao and dude that book is an asolute slog, i barely paid attention, thank god we broke up
It's a good book tbh
Split keyboards are awesome tho, specially a corne with nothing printed on the keys.
I'm using one now. 32 layers bro.
10 years in big tech, had startup before. My experience:
- functions are good
- objects are good ONLY for data storage (json, proto). Besides, OOP is dangerous.
- avoid interfaces
- avoid layering
- avoid over abstraction
- avoid runtime dependency injection
- avoid micro services
If you need to make a design decision, choose the one with fever lines of code.
Just write the damn code, put repetitive parts in functions.
I've been working for 20 years and I can agree with the "functions are good" sentence from your list... I have absolutely no idea why people hate on OOP.
@@aradipe Initialization of objects can get pretty troublesome. Often leads to "impossible to read" code like factory pattern and runtime dependency injections. Besides the possible states of an object gets out of hand and makes automated testing very difficult. In my recent implementations I went for json/proto based state storage and only functions for everything else (I code mostly C++ and Typescript, weird combo indeed :) and it works quite well. Besides I am not a "pure function" zealot. Just moving repeated code into a method makes things more manageable.
What vim?
Vim motions is to type code like in vim. This is an alternative to usual way of writing stuff. You can apply this in any editor.
Vim the editor (also neovim) are bare-bone editors. Similar to VScode but vim has even less stuff in it and you need install and configure it all yourself.
Both are interesting to learn but you have to ask yourself "Would you have time and patience learning those stuff?" I would say that I enjoyed learning vim motions.
But y’know what isn’t a scam, the sponsor of today’s video- *5 months later brilliant is exposed*
00:33 - The first error was to have Pull Requests. But if you are in the rare case of contributing in a low trust environment (aka free software), the second error is to make it long. The third error is that thinking a PR with code harder to read but with fewer lines will help people to read ... It's by definition harder to read.
I tried vim just cuz of the word of mouth, didnt like it, and quit.
Something interesting is that months later i honestly got fed up with arbritary unmemorable IDE shortcuts which i often had to make myself, only to always forget and slowly backspace stuff away or move with control and arrow keys to the end and start of lines. I think the whole productivity thing is ridiculous. We spend more time thinking about and reading code than writing code, especially earlier on in our journeys. I really dont see how deleting a line slightly faster will have any meaningful impact in the long term. But the thing i hated is when i had an idea so clearly in my head and i had to slowly type it out or edit it in, tapping the arrow keys repeatedly one at a time and then moving back to home row and then back to arrow keys. It doesnt matter, but i didnt like it. Most of the time coding is spent thinking, but when i do have a small idea for certain in mind i just find it so flow breaking to take so long to modify the code to make it work.
Watching more varied videos from the more varied sphere, ranging from C89 boomers to game devs goes to show that it doesnt matter what you use as long as you know how to use it. I think of it moreso as a hobby and something i do and learn for fun. I enjoy the simplicity compared to all the other IDEs and editors which take up half the screen with so much noisy UI and project trees and error logs. I also like how it makes me learn the deeper level stuff like how to use the terminal and to understand what goes on when i click that play button in Visual Studio.
I know the video is mostly a joke but i really wanna get this out of my system because i dont wanna seem be one of the stereotypical hipsters. I do hate how hard it is to get it up and running, so i see myself eventually switching to other editors which take care of compilation and managing projects with more files, but i think its fun and i think it helps me build more confidence in programming and computers in general.
Anyways, love the video bigbox, but maybe chill out a bit, though i cant speak for everyone in terms of how its going.
Vim is for the servers, where there is only nano and vim. And are you really going to pick nano?
You'd have to be mad to do your regular 9-5 coding in vim.
@@krickuNeovim can be an IDE if you set it up correctly and it replaced VSCode for me
@@zekiz774 vscode is also madness ☺️
I'm not turning down a jetbrains license 💕
Raw vim is insanity for most tasks. But a beefier customized neovim gets pretty strong. May not be a replacement for an IDE, especially not a specialized one, at least without that barrier of entry with configuration, but it remains strong for text editing. Nothing stopping someone from coding in Neovim and taking advantage of an IDE to compile a massive tech stack as i had to do recently with my training. I was surprised how underwhelming some IDEs are for text editing out of the box.
I frankly dont understand why people are so polarized on such a personal topic like text editor. Ive read blogs about people experimenting with coding without syntax highlighting or inline errors because they find those distracting. Its crazy, and they did say they do turn errors on sparringly, but if they like it or wanna try it out, let em be.
@@kricku exactly, if you have X installed/running, you should be using Emacs instead of Vim. (Vim is just an (alt-x) "evil-mode" (enter) away anyway!)
Low-level programmers watching the dumpster fire: 🧔Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power...
There is a lot more to code besides web pages, like embedded systems, actual hardware.
Though then again, those usually end up being electrical engineers, so maybe that's part of the scam too... hm.
@@leozetalol That's what I'm learning now!!! 😭
If wish I could tell my past self "Kid...stop wasting time on JS, ReactJS, NextJS, PutaJS 🙄 crap and learn some REAL programming!!"
I'm learning Linux, C/C++, Rust, Data Structures and Algorithms, and editing with Vim (because sometimes you don't have the luxury of VS Code and a mouse)...
@@dezly-macauleyso going from the stereotypical FE dev to the stereotypical soy Arch programmer, nice
@@stefanalecu9532 What's a FE dev?
@@dezly-macauley vim 😂
BABE WAKe UP BIGBOX POSTED!
This should be like the first video that any newbie coder and burnt up coder has to watch. Great stuff!
No code rules: I think webdev is a scam as an easy way to get to tech jobs in general. OOP is also one of the biggest scam since it generated clean code, design patterns and agile methods
OOP...biggest of all scams!!! Just to force everyone to buy new machines...
The funny schizophrenic part of all this is how they went from "everyone should learn how to code" to "people should stop learning how to code" in just a few years.
It scares me how many people may take this video seriously. I understand, that TDD, Clean Code and Design Patterns don't solve everything, but saying the exact opposite is even more damaging.
That second half implies you're taking it seriously...
The memes are so good I was legitimately looking up the Vim wage gap to see if it was a real thing 💀
"Code performance is literally a scam" Only an insecure js/python soydev would say such a thing
Brilliant video!
The problem with all these techniques, approached, and technologies are very useful. The problem is that Sales & Marketing marketed these as silver bullets.
That is where the scam is - companies thinking that selling a product or a training course delivers way in and out of itself.
Cameo appearance by Abdul Bari. 👌
I feel so called out.
Bro made a video on scamming and said, "yeah let's do some more indian jokes"
I smell a big tech drama coming
I smell a newb who decided everything he sux at is a sshhhccaammmm!!!
Ehh, just seems like trolling to me. With a small bit of truth mixed in just to make it hit harder.
ok, so seriously talking for a sec: as an arch and neovim user and professional developer: yeah, vim/nvim is not gonna make anyone more efficient - but it is just so freaking fun to work with. Not everyone will agree, and that's totally fine! Whatever rocks your boat. But to me, personally, I just love the fact that I can have a keyboard-only fast IDE that doubles as my terminal and triples as a general-purpose text editor. I can write and debug c/c++ code with it, I can write python scripts, etc. - and I can do all my usual shell stuff... plus also writing normal raw text when I need. And it's all configured to my liking. I understand people who don't want it, and I def hate the "I'm better than you 'cause I use vi/vim/nvim" approach. I just... really enjoy using it. Same goes for arch: I have a minimal OS which does what I want and is always updated. I didn't need to work too hard to get it (compared to, say, LFS or gentoo), but it's also very versatile and properly optimized. Throw in i3 or whatever other tiling WM, and all the clatter which drives my ADHD crazy is just gone. No unnecessary GUIs, no need for the mouse. It's heaven for my stupid brain which can't deal with too many things at the same time. I don't expect others to share this concept, as I hope they accept my "weirdness" for the computers I use. That's it.
I wish you had a company and I could work for it :) because in the 5 years I was a FrontEnd developer I didn't use any of those stuff in my codes (TDD, Design Patterns, Clean Code) and now that I'm looking for a new job, I feel like I should learn them for the sake of interviews...
woooo....so even a 5 year exp Veteran front end dev have to do all this shit. men😮💨i think i should look for a mining job instead
why would you need tdd on frontend
@@ilikegeorgiabutiveonlybeen6705 I never wrote tests for my code but I feel like I should've because there were occasions when I changed something and I thought it works fine but then I realized that change made other part of the code fail and I think if I had written tests then I found out about the bug sooner.
@@ronitgurjar5747 well yeah I worked in awful companies which didn't care about good quality for their apps and we didn't learned much about best practices and standard ways of coding... that's why I feel miserable now that I want to find a new job because most companies require the knowledge of tdd, ddd, oop, functional programming, design patterns, etc
@@ilikegeorgiabutiveonlybeen6705 Cause you don't want things to break. Automated frontend testing is huge. Especially to ensure things like login doesn't break. In a more general sense, TDD is just the code version of detailed requirements.
Love that you're leaning into the South Asian heritage 😂✊🏾
Yeah, I was laughing so hard at aunti ji, your beta....
really transitioned from "buy my course is a scam" to "get a brilliant subscription"
Great, because I needed yet another reason the dive deeper into depression. Now it turns out everything Im struggling to learn about is either obsolete or a scam, there are no rules, no path to follow, you either know how to code or you dont, sink or swim. This shit is as impossible as Force training, no wonder the galaxy is brimming with Dark Jedi.
Didn't you hear the "feature shipping" part? I guess you are worthless after all - if you can't recognize the value but just hear the FUD.
This video is extremely negative and I disagree with it. It actually seems very neurotic, and I would ignore it. This part of the internet (memey videos about CS/software jobs) seems to repeat the same things over and over again and are happy to join eachother repeating the same things, rather than being interested in the tech. Someone hears about layoffs, going to uni, this is bad, this is bad. It is all irrelevant to individual people. Software and tech is a very interesting part of the world and these types of videos just try to get views by playing up some neurotic repeated narratives without any depth, with the guise that it is a "meme". This video really does not reflect reality and is just depressing on purpose :(
I think noone should watch these videos. Software engineers would find them shallow, and people wanting to learn will be scared away. I think it is good to just keep learning and it will help you to stand out from the people who became obsessed with hesitating about what to do because they follow "software industry news" on youtube.
@@lucaspayne2546do you think it’ll get better for cs majors then?
You have good Indian Subcontinental references.
Scrum is actually quite far from the Agile Manifesto... especially if used by management people as a way to be able to say "we're doing agile" while still acting like the kind of people that Fred Brooks was making fun of in 1975 ("nine women can deliver a baby in 1 month" and the like).
Best video so far, keep up the good jokes the TDD one really caught me off guard hahahaha
worse thing about coding for work is, you cant code things you wanna make (aka "hobby" projects that doesn't make money)
Woah .. so much hate for Uncle bob. He actually helped me see the elegance in oop code
a turd can look elegant too, especially after some brainwashing
"There's like 3 options and none of them work anymore" God that is too accurate
I dunno man, why would just not learn half a day to use Vim, you can use it anywhere, your favourite IDE or even you browser, and at least you will get is easier shortcuts.
Thank you for saying it.
This was done by a disgruntled laid off employee who couldn’t hack it in tech and needed to monetize a bad TH-cam video
3:18 on point
Uncle Bob, his time has come and passed
Coding is not the barrier at this point
Brother this was wild.
Primeagen is gonna have a field day with that stray Vim slander.
Civil war in the comments rn
Maybe the scam was the friends we made along the way...
If you see the bullshit I write, you wouldn't consider clean code a scam
Answering questions on Stack overflow just to get points was biggest scam i fell into
Bro definitely has some desi connection
spoken like a true project manager !
You just declared war on software engineering
The unrelenting drivebys of Prime is f[beep]ing amazing!
I agree with you on the frontend part. Backend developers thinking frontend is easy is the biggest scam.
3:35 Well if your code is impossible to read and follow, you'll have a harder time shipping new features efficiently. Modularity is also very helpful for it. The problem I see is people forgetting about the golden mean and just getting shit done instead of insisting on following a specific paradigm to be more "perfect". You shouldn't be sloppy, but you also shouldn't obsessively follow rules that make things slower and harder because they're not universally relevant
whoever says frontend is easy, they should try css, cos css is so tricky, there is no error or warning, u gotta figure out yourself. Frontend is much more difficult than backend cos there are so many things u have to learn
CSS is easy
(hides the countless hours of pain incurred by CSS)
@@arjix8738 This is so true. I still prefer js over css.
Layout and positioning is 90% of css. Everything else is window dressing. Learn layout and positioning, the box-model, how 'inherit' works, learn about the default user agent stylesheet and you've got the most of the important stuff covered imo
I would go on to say that both are equally difficult imo
If you think css is hard you should try vulkan or opengl shaders :)
So much truth in one single video
Prime's gonna be pissed 😂
The definition of a "rage-bait-video". You have to love it.
What was the indian accent bro😂
I agree with most of this, but to call Vim a scam is just a joke.
vim is over hyped and am not joking
As a fresher who has learned some backend and tried frontend for the first time, Frontend is hard af
Oh my if this isn't so fucking true. No, we should actually absolutely not spent time refactoring the triple nested array since it maximally processes 13 shallow objects, for the users. Holy fuck man give it a rest...
To be fair, there's also the "It's 2024, maybe we shouldn't be starting new projects by using a copy of our decade plus old VB code as a base." Literally a conversation I had yesterday... Actually it was more along the lines of "I'm not supporting that."
How to say in 5 minutes you suck at software engineering without saying you suck at software engineering.
Bro cracked all the Indian jokes like there's no tomorrow