Mew2King - "There's no ledge?" Salem - "There's no ledge." Mew2King - "There's no grab?" Salem - "There's no grab." Mew2King - "There's no sheild?" Salem - "There's no sheild."
Ehhhh most of them just occasionally play it on the side, nobody seems to have really taken it seriously IMO Although I suppose I'm mainly looking at top 6 or so, might also be why lol
Take a look at Smash Summit 3, where other Melee players tried the early stages of ROA. Plup played really well with Maypul, and Mang0 went toe-to-toe with Plup with his Wrastor in GF.
I'd love to see more of this, I know that once M2K gets a hang of this game and is more familiar with it's Melee-esque tech, he'll be more comfortable playing it.
KennEH Damn, bet you will stop playing it if he says its bad and not care about what you think about it. If thats not the case tho, my bad. Seems like it tho
It must be weird, since in Smash, there's the fundamental Rock-Paper-Scissors of Attack-Shield-Grab. Ledge is also an important defensive option that M2K abuses. Not to say RoA is bad. I love RoA. It's just different.
RoA also has this rock-paper-scissors element. If your opponent parries your jab, you won't get stunned while your opponent still needs to finish the animation.
janmarco perez batres || Yep. Some of Fox too. He's a pretty well rounded fundamentals character. Gotta mix up his recoveries offstage or he's fucked tho
fun fact- Ori has an infinite recovery. just up B, then press up and down as soon as possible. 3 frames to put the feather away, and 1 (or 2 maybe) frame to take it back out. doing it correctly will cause Ori to go upwards instead of down.
even if he's not doing work in smash tourneys, i like to see that mew2king is still active in the community (and yes, i would consider RoA to be a part of the smash community)
+janmarco perez batres where did you even hear that? I mean Dan has worked for Microsoft Studios before, but still, sounds really farfetched. Also, I hear Brawlout is going on the switch, but imo nowhere near as good as RoA.
how is this game? i want it badly. im just kinda bummed cause the community seems to look too small to be comp in. it uses the same game mech as smash with percentage over health which includes more skill than health bar games due to having to commit to getting your opponent out of the box rather than beating your opponent till they die/faint. and its also nice to move around instead of being stuck between 2 walls in 2d. i really like the fact it replaces shield with parry, has no grabs, no ledge and you can do those charged attacks in air (they look like smash attacks and smash attacking in air sound p cool). i hear you can even wavedash in the game and do all the wave techs in melee. having no shield and grabs takes out that rock paper scissors feel with grab, spot dodge, and shield. having no ledge looks like it adds more skill because you dont just recover and clip to the ledge for a little invincibility and mess around with stage control.
If you're in East Coast USA, you'll be fine in terms of compet. Europe or anywhere else, not so much. This game is oodles of fun to play against your friends with though. The aerial smashes are Wrastor's unique trait. He exchanges his ground smash attacks for aerial ones, so you can only do tilts on the ground. The game's aggressiveness is unmatched, it's like Project M with no shields, it's really nice and has some great music. I recommend it highly.
heh im in east coast ironically, you think the community will get bigger in the future? even have people who are popular in the smash scene migrate over?
PokéKid let me tell ypu as a person who wanted the game for over a year and then got it and played it for a good 4 months its not worth it and you should stick to melee if you play melee
There isn't a grab because Dan(the creator) was first doing sprites on his own. He said designing sprites for grabbing and being grabbed would've been very time consuming and difficult, so he decided to leave grabs out. I think I heard somewhere that the lack of shield was meant to make the game more offensive. And I think the lack of ledge was to differentiate the game from smash further.
M2K... do the tutorials, you'll get enough gold for Etalus. and you'll also learn more about the fighters... it would probably click more if he didn't feel so stuck on winging it.
LazyBones01 its because they are playing too much neutral. Competitive players are in the neutral for about 2 seconds before combining begins, these guys were in neutral for entire games.
![Neylax ( Zetterburn ) vs TSM | Leffen ( Orcane ) - [ EU Winners Quarterfinals ]](/img/n.gif)
Mew2King - "There's no ledge?"
Salem - "There's no ledge."
Mew2King - "There's no grab?"
Salem - "There's no grab."
Mew2King - "There's no sheild?"
Salem - "There's no sheild."
"There's no ledge?!"
That's what freaked Jason the most out of course.
ProjectZuel could've been worse. It could've been Hungrybox playing.
Hecarroman i'd say m2k uses the ledge more than hbox
like, hes played this game before. XD i swear melee makes you oblivious to every other game.
ye fam, that surprised me too
"You gotta Purry Yason"
I don't know why but whenever Salem says "Jason" it's so damn funny. It's the way he says it
Dapix same with zero miss the early smash 4 days
Just purry it jayson
Dapix Jhayzun
Once M2K realizes the wavedashing and shorthop fast falls are like melee on crack, the RoA community is screwed
You fool! You just blatantly telled everyone!?!
MeatlessBurrito told*
no, lets stick with telled.
lmao you just compared this to melee.
tuld
Someone needs to point out that the move M2K didn't know the purpose of is basically Fox's shine.
Wow Salem is even beating zero at being friends with m2k now
Iconn Yason never forgive D':
Well that’s good to hear now
"You can Purry Jason."
"you can wa jum"
Who else would love to see some more top Melee smashers get into Rivals, just to see how they end up playing it?
Ehhhh most of them just occasionally play it on the side, nobody seems to have really taken it seriously IMO
Although I suppose I'm mainly looking at top 6 or so, might also be why lol
I hope this game gradually gets popular. I would gladly fund it if it means getting more characters into the game.
Eunro more characters are coming. I believe there are 5 more scheduled to drop between now and the end of 2018
+hangeles1, that's awesome to hear!
And they're paid dlc. fun stuff. (not)
"There's no grab???"
There's no grab Jason.
"There's no *ledge* ?!"
*Drops controler*
*Sounds of Silence starts playing*
Hello Darkness my old friend!
Only Clairen, Ori, and Etalus have a grab
I hope Salem and M2K play Rivals more often. This game is legit.
Nobody tell M2K he can cancel the Up B startup with an airdodge and Up B again, else we're all screwed
Let alone the fact that you can jump cancel the end lag of zettersburn neutral B so you can basically waveshine people across the stage.
This character's movement is like ehehehe! - Salem 2017
those last like 2 seconds of salem laughing are what i live for. "HUEH HUEH HUEH" cuts to outro*
It's interesting seeing a pro Smash player try to play Rivals. It shows how different the two games are.
Take a look at Smash Summit 3, where other Melee players tried the early stages of ROA.
Plup played really well with Maypul, and Mang0 went toe-to-toe with Plup with his Wrastor in GF.
Doesnt know basic game mechanics
Can still destroy me in 0.5 second ;-;
Solid fundamentals > everything else
I'd love to see more of this, I know that once M2K gets a hang of this game and is more familiar with it's Melee-esque tech, he'll be more comfortable playing it.
I want a review of this game once you git gud Jason.
Its a really good game tbh, definitely worth the buy
I own it. I just wanna hear his opinion.
KennEH Damn, bet you will stop playing it if he says its bad and not care about what you think about it. If thats not the case tho, my bad. Seems like it tho
Neo Reflex I've owned the game for over a year, I doubt it.
Neo Reflex lol, what an odd thing to comment.
no ledge
no grab
no shield
stick to melee jason
Pk Ness but etalus has a command grab
MagGunDO17 it's not much different from DK's fair, considering there aren't shields and it can barely touch grounded opponents
It must be weird, since in Smash, there's the fundamental Rock-Paper-Scissors of Attack-Shield-Grab. Ledge is also an important defensive option that M2K abuses.
Not to say RoA is bad. I love RoA. It's just different.
Pk Ness no gimmicks. Just offense.
RoA also has this rock-paper-scissors element. If your opponent parries your jab, you won't get stunned while your opponent still needs to finish the animation.
Please God play more Rivals
When M2K plays with NO LEDGE
Please tell me he learns that Zetter's neutral-b is literally a shine
"What's the point of this move?"
Yep, you can spike people with it
I need to start this game it looks lit
Relevant Games its the closest thing to melee in terms of game mechanics. Wavedashes and lands, shffls, DI, etc
Smash Crusade when?
ThePiSymbol No it's not
if you get it on steam add me we can play
There is just no reason to play it over melee. Feels floaty and the combos are boring.
I've been waiting so long for this.
Anyone else?
I just noticed that the fire lion is pretty much wolf.
janmarco perez batres || Yep. Some of Fox too. He's a pretty well rounded fundamentals character. Gotta mix up his recoveries offstage or he's fucked tho
dan was a wolf main in PM iirc so yeah a lot of moves and mechanics of characters in this game r based off PM stuff
I like Salem's voice
I would love to see more of this
12:12
LOL I DO MY DASH ATTACKS WITH C STICK DOWN AS WELL
I also shield with R
And I wear glasses
I'm scared
Yay you played it. Oh wait no grab m2k will hate this game xD
well now that clairens out :v
fun fact- Ori has an infinite recovery. just up B, then press up and down as soon as possible. 3 frames to put the feather away, and 1 (or 2 maybe) frame to take it back out. doing it correctly will cause Ori to go upwards instead of down.
This game is so underrated
Anyone know what controllers theyre using?
chances are GameCube controllers with an adapter.
TouchingEverything Thats what I was thinking too, but I didnt hear the telltale clacking of a Gamecube Controller, so I wasn't sure.
Listen towards the end when they're not talking as much, you can hear the controllers there.
Antifrost Trruuee, thanks guys
I love that he doesn't realize he can waveshine out of the fire thing lol
Ori and ranno have some bayo-level movement and offstage ability.
even if he's not doing work in smash tourneys, i like to see that mew2king is still active in the community (and yes, i would consider RoA to be a part of the smash community)
haha
are you guys using xinput or dinput?
Is Ori the only character from another game?
What does this game have against Ike's up B?
Why isn't this game on a Nintendo console??? I just don't understand
Ernireg3 Both the Switch and Wii U can't run GameMaker games. They want to put it on Switch but don't want to completely reprogram the game :/
GameMaker devs hates nintendo i think
+janmarco perez batres where did you even hear that? I mean Dan has worked for Microsoft Studios before, but still, sounds really farfetched.
Also, I hear Brawlout is going on the switch, but imo nowhere near as good as RoA.
I'd assume now it has something to do with Ori.
Milky Way Flea GameMaker as in the engine that Rivals runs on. They haven't ported the engine to Switch.
enters 10k pot grand finals "oh right I can't shield"
I lost it at "There's no LEDGE?!?"
7:40 the timing of the music though.
More of this game please
I love this game. It actually feels like more of a Smash Bros game than Melee.
shaq: excuse me do you have ledge?
employee: no ledge and m2k machine broke
shaq: understandable, have a nice day
"There's no grab Jason"
how is this game? i want it badly. im just kinda bummed cause the community seems to look too small to be comp in.
it uses the same game mech as smash with percentage over health which includes more skill than health bar games due to having to commit to getting your opponent out of the box rather than beating your opponent till they die/faint. and its also nice to move around instead of being stuck between 2 walls in 2d.
i really like the fact it replaces shield with parry, has no grabs, no ledge and you can do those charged attacks in air (they look like smash attacks and smash attacking in air sound p cool). i hear you can even wavedash in the game and do all the wave techs in melee.
having no shield and grabs takes out that rock paper scissors feel with grab, spot dodge, and shield. having no ledge looks like it adds more skill because you dont just recover and clip to the ledge for a little invincibility and mess around with stage control.
If you're in East Coast USA, you'll be fine in terms of compet. Europe or anywhere else, not so much. This game is oodles of fun to play against your friends with though.
The aerial smashes are Wrastor's unique trait. He exchanges his ground smash attacks for aerial ones, so you can only do tilts on the ground.
The game's aggressiveness is unmatched, it's like Project M with no shields, it's really nice and has some great music.
I recommend it highly.
heh im in east coast ironically, you think the community will get bigger in the future? even have people who are popular in the smash scene migrate over?
PokéKid $15 is a cheap buy in. Do it for fun.
PokéKid let me tell ypu as a person who wanted the game for over a year and then got it and played it for a good 4 months its not worth it and you should stick to melee if you play melee
lordmew5 can i hear your reasoning on why?
"Wait, there's no grab?" justm2kthings
when are they gonna make mew3king
You gotta purry, Jason.
but where's the witch time? :(
Yo, Salem's got a pretty clean Ori
Where is my Chain grab, my plank, my game...
Rivals of Aether yeeeeeessssss
That's the Up-B Toon Link should have had :)
Um, i just got an ad for the mummy. Why am i getting a 4 month old ad?
miniyodadude dvd release???
HAHAHA LOLLLL DIS GAME IS JUS MELE XD LOLLLLLLLL!
I regret nothing.
" Fire hurts" why is this not a meme yet???
5:38
Dat ain't Falco!
I need to see armada playing this masterpiece xD
"theres no grab jeeson"
No Grab? No shield? No Ledge? Why? @__@
Because it's a different game.
There isn't a grab because Dan(the creator) was first doing sprites on his own. He said designing sprites for grabbing and being grabbed would've been very time consuming and difficult, so he decided to leave grabs out. I think I heard somewhere that the lack of shield was meant to make the game more offensive. And I think the lack of ledge was to differentiate the game from smash further.
that's something m2k would probably ask himself lol
Crow Spaceboy I know I was clowning M2K. I'm not blind dude.
Haha, you got me. It was too real.
When Salem talks about a character not being balanced...lol
I love how quickly M2K went to playing the broken character in Zetterburn...
lol, none of the characters are truly broken TBH
Zetterburn is probably the best character, but not by a wide margin at all.
SALEMS MOVEMENT GAME THO?!
as a smash player i see: wolf, sheik, falco and orimar
Omg its original from the blind forest!!
Ori
Pls more
I love this game
This game needs more dynamic sound effects
"there's no grab?? 0.0"
Zetterburn's n special can be jump canceled
Also he has dacus
10:19 well? Yeah
I want row for switch
BTW if you read this salem spam upair and win as ori
Didn't know M2K did aether
This game owns.
no shielding jason!
Alpharad where are you come rekt these bois
YES
Yeeesss I love this game
Salem would use a dlc character
I really like it except the sound effects suck
So salen main the broken character in smash and rivals
Jason.
No grab, no shield and NO FUCKING LEDGE, bad game:(
can i say roas relevant now
It's funny seeing m2k being bad at this game
*alpharad would totally wreck these clowns*
Has he legit not played roa before? Lmao
M2K... do the tutorials, you'll get enough gold for Etalus. and you'll also learn more about the fighters...
it would probably click more if he didn't feel so stuck on winging it.
Ranno
It's always Salem to play the most BS character in the roster.
A game I am better then Jason at.
lol m2k
No grab? AAAAAAAND tab closed.
The game is cool and super fun, but I don't know what it is about watching it that makes it seem so lame.
LazyBones01 its because they are playing too much neutral. Competitive players are in the neutral for about 2 seconds before combining begins, these guys were in neutral for entire games.
Does anybody else find Ori seriously cheap in this game?
Salem plays ori. Ori=bayo confirmed. Trash fighter
sm4sh players LUL
Frutamare ROA players thinking M2K is a tr4sh player LUL