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- After a month of heavy fighting, the pro-Russia separatists of the Donetsk People's Republic (DNR) finally took the strategically important rail hub town of Debaltseve in eastern Ukraine.
In early January, the DNR had launched a winter offensive on Ukrainian positions, seizing the Donetsk airport and attacking Ukrainian checkpoints across the line of control separating the two sides. Once the airport had fallen, the DNR focused its attention on Debaltseve, surrounding the town on three sides and pounding it with artillery for four straight weeks. The attack killed dozens and forced thousands of residents to flee.
VICE News traveled to Debaltseve a few days after it fell to the DNR to speak to some of the civilians who were slowly returning to their town, which now lies in ruins.
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Russia helping them? You don't saaaaaay
Maybe because they are russians too..
quaresma8800 they are Ukrainians who speak Russian. Just like an American who speaks spanish dosnt make him mexican. you commie fuck
Terror350
I guess you missed history in school. Hitlers excuse to invade Poland was a Polish attack on Germanys border soldiers (of course Poland didn't attack).
Just shut the fuck up, if you don't know a shit!
MrArtisch "To forestall a British intervention, Hitler turned to propaganda and misinformation, alleging persecution of German-speakers in eastern Poland." - History Channel :p
***** You are right, and Bush should be executed as the War criminal he is the same way he has executed so many not only abroad but even in his home State. Trust me, half of America HATES the other half of America, we are two nations pretending to be one. There is a Fascist side, the George Bush side, and there is a Socialist side, that sadly has very little power.
"it'll be better then before" Bruh your whole towns destroyed tho
Dude I was gonna say. Guy's all like "We finally got what we wanted." completely unironically and all I could think was "At what cost?" That's what victory looks like? Your town completely decimated and without basic utilities? Because that kinda sounds more like the end of the world. Congrats on being liberated... of all of your well-being and virtually everything you owned and worked for.
I guess the death of one world is the birth of another... but maybe not the best soil there.
@@differentbutsimilar7893 Its better to be in destroyed town and like like in africa without water and electricity for glory of the motherland Russia instead of being part of a moderate country ukraine who provided them water electricity jobs
@@differentbutsimilar7893 sounds like locking down your country for years and destroying your own economy and expecting things to go "back to normal" ever..
Just wait. When our brothers pushes all the way to Kiev, the leaders will pay for the destruction. It’s their own fault.
Mother land..it's like you come back to your home after many years..it's felt different even just step on this land..
" we got what we wanted,but there is nothing left"
1:58 "Kiev is the mother of Russian cities" I wouldn't say Russians dont have any ties to Kiev since Kievan Rus they did because of the country did expanded into modern day Russia in its history (and other countries), just saying that the city can't be considered Russian in origin at all
Ну ты можешь думать что угодно, но 200 миллионов русских считают Киев своим, и готовы убивать за это. Так что пакуй чемоданы лучше, ну или меняй своё "мнение".
***** Ещё раз для тупых. Вас мало и вы слабы. Никому ты голову не отрежешь, ножик об русский танк сломается. Мир воевать за украдину не будет. Значит что надо делать? Стирать русофобские каменты в инете, удалять аккаунты, закупать российские флаги, чтобы приветствовать русскую военную администрацию в своём городе.
Попов Александр Ты чего еще не в ополчении раз такой смелый? Боишься что придется потом на камеру плакать и говорить что не хотел сюда ехать?
Попов Александр И на счет "вас мало", вспомни как ваши диды пачками дохли пытаясь взять линию Манергейма, да и вы уже показали что ваша потешная армия только трупами может закидать когда один только аэропорт целый год брали.
***** Разве я рассказываю, как буду головы украинцам отрезать? Я рассказываю как украинцам выжить. Ты можешь презирать или ненавидеть русских, это всё равно, но их очень много, и у них огромные ресурсы. Линия Маннергейма - хороший пример. Во-первых, где она, украинская "линия Маннергейма"? Во-вторых, ведь Финляндия войну проиграла в итоге, и СССР взял карельский перешеек.
Кстати, читал письма красноармейцев, захваченные финнами в ходе той войны в одном из почтамтов, там много писем с украины. Никакой современной польско-венгерской мовы там нет, а тот украинский язык практически один с русским. То есть вам дуракам мозги засрали что вы какие-то другие, а вы русские и есть и ненавидите самих себя. Поищи в гугле Зензинов «Встречи с Россией. Письма в Красную армию 1939-1940 гг.»
Там под Финляндией "дохли" и твои деды тоже, только ты их память предал и забыл о них.
"the rebels have saved us, despite cutting off water, and gas, and electricity, and bombing the absolute fucking shit out of our homes. things are better now"
So your saying that while the "Nazi Ukrainian army" "occupied" these cities, it came under constant shelling. And after the DNR with Russian support "liberated" it, it suddenly became quiet?
It's as if one side observes a cease fire and doesn't shell civilian positions and the other side doesn't.
wow... so you watched video number 95 from a series and came to this conclusion... it was not the correct conclusion. also whats with the ""occupied" and "liberated"?
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don't watch together with CNN nowadays... it might be... tough
@@todisagreeitsokay1837 they are a bunch of terrorists founded my Putin's regime . See what going on now , so many people are getting killed and everything is destroyed . What a shame
@@todisagreeitsokay1837 my guy was so clever to reply to a 7 year old comment that he himself forgot some of the previous content. Russia...I mean DNR kept constantly violating cease fire, this was clear in the previous videos, the other problem was that Ukranian military was pissed off that they have to have a cease fire and not do anything while the other side still shoots at them. This my guy is what Russia has been doing for a while. You can even see examples of this today with Odessa agreement where the port was supposed to be free of shelling and yet Russia sent a rocket there the next day. So much for that huh.
@@johnysmith3266 DNR violating cease fire? I am interested why then their civilians dying first?
@@DMlTREl cause stray rockets and Ukrainian army units being near civilian populations?
"We have been liberated" - Yes, theres no doubt that you have, lol.
What's so funny?
@@VigorianOutlander .
Liberated from UN lgbt rule 🏳️🌈
Why does the DNR have the confederate flag at 1:36?
The Patriot 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s the DNR flag
3:22 is that Saddam Hussein?
Are u kidding me?
omg that's what I said
I wish this series went deeper into the social/political problems with the "DNR" and "Ukrainian" people because things have to be pretty hard when civilians are returning to a bombed out home without water, electricity, price hikes, comparing the Ukrainian rule as Fascist/Nazi, and seeing *that* as superior to living as part of Ukraine. Without evening going into who is "right" or "wrong", that is some bad blood.
It's called years of Russian propaganda and brainwashing.
4:58 Minister of EMERCOM of DNR. EMERCOM stands for Ministry of RUSSIAN Federation for Civil Defense, Emergencies and Elimination of Consequences of Natural Disasters. It seams that DNR will be part of Russian Federation and not an independent country...
Ты был чертовски прав)
Such a propaganda report, Debaltsevo was already surrounded by DPR and LPR soldiers before the ceasefire talks were in place, Poroshenko denied the Cauldron's existence several times and rejected offers to let the UA soldiers to go freely.
Yeah, calling ceasefire a ceasefire is propaganda. That means you stop shooting, not you start looking for excuses to continue the fighting. Russians need to learn what that word ceasefire actually means.
Well answer me this Putinbot - assuming Ukrainians were surrounded how does it make it right that Russians broke the ceasfire till capturing Debaltseve? Second question - were are those 2000 NATO mercenaries and 5000 Ukrainians soldiers that were supposed to be surrounded in Debaltseve?
MakroTeh
PROPAGANDA PROPAGANDA Putin is hotter than Obama and because of that russia is right
Number of Ukrainian forces withdrawn from Debaltseve along with weapons proves your argument wrong, They were not fully surrounded and the ceasefire agreement was clearly violated by Putin's guerrillas.
Obviously more people agree with me, so small minded US patriotic trolls fuck off.
When the war ends, I’m going to move over there and open a glass factory. They’re going to need a ton of windows.
if...
The war is never ending. Russia knows no peace.
@@MattyClivingthedream yeah because Nato does know peace ... what a plain !diotic statment
2022 and things really went down the shitter. The entire region will need complete reconstruction.
While I support Ukraine, I do feel empathy for civilian populations who are not in actual combat.
a couple 'hundred kilometers from where my roots were sown... and to think, here I am eating dinner and watching this as if it were entertainment.
Where was a clear violation of the ceasefire? Debaltseve was in a kettle, behind the frontline. Therefore considered DNR territory. Poroshenko just didn´t admit that there was a kettle, but after all obviously we found out, that there really was a kettle. So the Ukraine broke the agreement respectively new they were lost, but also that they couldn´t give up debaltseve. Maybe Poroshenko was waiting for a miracle or external help. Time was against him. Just watch the Video of the Surviving Commanders discussing the situation afterwards, clearyl saying they were dumped there and betrayed by Ukraine government, also been told, that there wa no kettle, if there even was a double kettle.
When you don't stop shooting after a ceasefire it is a violation. That's what that word means you cease to fire, stop shooting. That's what separatists should have done without looking for excuses to break it.
Nope, nope, nope. 1) even it there was a cauldron you Ruskies broke the ceasfire 2) there was none since you captured barely anyone 3) even your separatists commanders like Zahartchenko and few others made a lot of excuses and openly admited they won't respect the ceafire till they take Debaltseve
Crazy russain logic.
hillock65 Dumb excuses too... How could the surrounded Ukrainian forces be withdrawn?
hillock65
Ceasefire does not apply to forces on enemy ground who refuse to retreat ss clearly stated in the agreement.
Finally a new episode!
Crazy this is STILL going on.
this hits differently knowing russia was behind all of this
@@crispy682 of course. My family was paid by Obama himself when they went protesting against this russian puppet
@@crispy682 right, might want to go back and start with Maidan, or just go back and start watching from Episode 1, seems like your memory is a bit hazy
no way bro russians living in ukraine are russian
@@crispy682 yeah, the Ukrainian people were totally happy with a pro Russian puppet as a president. It was the Americans that got rid of him, everything is America's fault, right?
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If their is anyone on here from Russia, can you please explain to me what makes the Ukrainians nazis in your eyes. I'm curious to understand your perspective.
the ban on using russian and hungarian language in schools... the killing of whole roma villages... and so on. puting Bandera, an actual historic nazi, on every town square. The burning alive of peacefull demonstrators in Odessa by masked people. The zero criminal prosecution of those who did the burning... bla bla bla
@@glenncoetzee5906 errecting monuments to actual nazis, having classical white supremacist neo-nazis in the army-Police, Burning down Roma villages. "Slava Ukraine" the motto of their Army is a salute from WW2 nazi-collaborators. Having other nazi/neo-nazi emblems on uniforms. Torturing people in Donbass, beating up Feminists and LGBTQI... aktivists on the street... etc... take your pick
@@glenncoetzee5906 well... I guess 99% of football hooligans are Nazi then.
Их идеология..
been a while since last report .. didnt you get into Debeltseve .. seeing as porky said it wasnt encircled
Good job, guys
They definitely share rhetorical similarities with the Serbs, back in the '90's. Guess that's some kind of Russian/Serbian Orthodox thing. "The back side of the moon is serbian/russian land".
2:16 general Butt Naked's cousin
Nah, that's just a wannabe.
@@basedblackbeard4456 to be frank, not sure how popular cannibalism is in these parts
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crazy ole world...
4:16 lol the magic mushrooms
I felt really bad for that old man and his wife.
Ukraine is just rearming and training to reattack lol
Good.
Or redefend, which ever comes first.
I have the same feeling that there regrouping for a surprise attack.
Advanced Prime Surprise? Its openly stated that the Ukrainians are now mobilizing 250 thousand soldiers to attack
Luke Bruce They didn't tell when they will attack, did they?
I have my faith 🙏💖
I'm ready for what ever comes.
I'm 44 year's old , no kids no wife nothing. I GOT NOTHING TO LOOSE.
they want to join russia, i would aso choose russia before ukranie. why not allow them to join Russia? isnt this democracy?
whats the big deal? its like, imagine that USA loses a war or somthing, and has to split, imagine that 40 states are now the "New" Usa. and the other 10 states decide to make a new country. imagine one of those 10 states wanting to go back to "USA", ofcourse, the ppl in power of those 10 states wont let them rejoin, they would lose money/land, influence. but its the ppl of the state that wants to leave, the one that matters. by not allowing them to join the "new" usa, they'r being held as slaves in a way. That's what the DNR is trying to do, they'd rather "die standing than live on their knees", they dont want to be slaves, they dont want to work for the ukranian state. and they'r influences involved. since USA is interested in a few things about Ukraine joining the EU, and its also interested in Russia.
USA is a very hostil nation, they've the world's largest budget in military, and more than 160 military bases arround the world. they're always at war. USA needs war to live, war is a good business, a really good one. Millions of people rely on direct and indirect military spending for their jobs. Roughly 75% of [US] federal research and development expenditure is devoted to military projects. Billions, even Trillons of dollars are spent, in "defense", and in the "military budget", you can google by yourself. And how do you "collect" such a big amount of money from the people/tax payers? convincing them, saying things like "we need war, they're bad, we're good, we're the world's police, etc." is it so hard to believe, that media, like fox news, bbc, and so on, have theyr own agenda? and that they'r being paid, to push this kind of tougth thru your mind? when its been proven, thru the centuries, that the humand mind its so easy to manipulate, even Socrates 2400 years ago, was already talking about how to create a "perfect city, with "perfect guards" thinking about what to let them read, how to make them believe what he wanted them to believe, how to make them react how he wanted them to react, manipulating they'r way of life.
Its been also known, that intelligency agencies, have a lot to do when its about politics, and manipulating them in other countries, for the "defense" of USA, minor examples are, in places like ecuador, venezuela, in 1970-1980, comunism would've been the way, if it wasnt for the intelligency agencies of usa. those are some of the "known" cases, the posibilities of the unknown, are so big, that its a waste of time to calculate.
if an argument, pops up between Russia and USA, who would i support? i would support Russia, in a logical way, the chances are, USA wants to take adventage over Russia.
If an "argument" pops between ISIS and USA who would i support? USA, ofc, but in that case, ISIS as a religion, isn't logical, and who knows, maybe USA "created" this enemy, and he migth be figthing him sooner than we tougth.
I'm not against religion, i consider some of them to be good for the humanity. and dont take me wrong, faith, can move mountains. i'd rather be a Christian, than an agnostic. but Faith is a gift that I have yet to receive.
Soz about my english, i'm self-taugth.
cya.
this is just ukrainians vs ukrainians. this has little to do with russia or anyone else.
conspiracy theorists.
If nato starts selling weapons to the ukrainian army then they will be directly involved in this war.
Eastern Ukraine is ethnically Russian, it's like saying if the Hispanic Americans in California decided to revolt it would be a American vs American civil dispute, forgetting that they were there for much longer and the border just moved.
***** yes, and remember the southwestern part of the states was former spanish colonial territory.
How much did Kremlin pay for you to say this, Kremlin bot?
Was that a Confederate flag?
Its novorussiya flag
I was so confused until I realized this was 8 years ago
What a huge disconnect between what the people say in the video and what 'people' post in the comments section. Why watch the video at all?
"we have been liberated... we will be better than before." damn buddy, i feel for you. here, have some at4s and a few pallets of 7.62
VICE News is sure doing a great job with its propaganda (in the neutral sense of the word). Having seen plenty of unedited interviews I know most of them consist of the locals telling you how bad the Ukrainian army was and what horrible things they did (or their friend's cousin said they did). It's exactly the cutting out of that part, coupled with showing pictures of destruction in the background, that makes the viewer question the sincerity of the residents. I suspect there's also some remarks on who they blame for destroying the city in VICE's footage that you don't need to see. "We think it'll be better than it used to be", but we won't tell you how it used to be because then you would understand why they say what they say.
Allowing the people to speak, but making the viewer doubt what they say. Very subtle and professional job, VICE, and I mean it. ;-]
Why, I understood this footage pretty well
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON?
so when the DNR entered the city, the civilians returned. I see..
yepp cause the civilians in this region are mostly ethnic russians... so... you know... like when scottish people beat the english out of edinbourough than the scottish civilians returned there... there is also other examples of this throughout history... if you concentrate hard enough you might find at least one somewhere in your brain
Anyone else wondering why there is a confederate flag at 1:38?
+xPlasmaProductions same duude
Yup
Yankees are there!!
It has a different meaning in Russia
the houses of debaltsevo destroyed by Ukrainian artillery
Really, change your last name to Durnev, Ukrainian army was located in Debaltseve and around the city during the hottest fights in February, why would they bombed themself, turn off propaganda TV, and turn on the logic.
some translations are a bit strange
SORY MAN
Их освободили. Ну теперь-то они заживут.
Warning Keyboard Warriors in comment section ... Vice should just disable it all together...
More like lots of Russian trolls splashing propoganda to anyone that will listen.
I wonder if I'll ever visit Novrossyia when the war is over of courses
1:30 wtf is that hahah Jizass army? :D
These poor civilians. I couldn't care less about the political aspect of this conflict. Both sides are to be utterly condemned for allowing such heartbreaking civilian suffering.
Every day your point of view goes more objective! thank you vice for this super neutral information!!
It seems to hit the poor and elderly the hardest, those who are unable to flee
Congratulations
you know why it's calm becaus ethe ukrainian army doesn't shell the city the DNR DOES!
I seriously doubt the sincerity of these people in the interview. It's not like separatists are known for diversity of opinions. You don't call Ukrainians nazis, next thing you are gone without a trace.
Maybe, but main reason is that 80% of local population escaped from Debaltsevo, mostly into other Ukrainian cities. And those old people left there mostly do believe in russian propaganda about 'Ukrainians nazis led by Jewish government'
Doesn't really matter what city is being "liberated" or by whom, people are always happy once shelling finally stops and front line passes on. And clearly speaking out against fresh "liberators" is a bloody stupid thing to do. Combine these two things and you get everyone singing praises for the conquerors, its the same deal in pretty much every war anywhere. Next time Ukrainians come along the same people will be praising Kiev. Kind of a weather vane behaviour but that is just how people are.
@@aleksklochkoлично считал? Сказки тут рассказываешь.
@@user-ne2xv3dh2y смешное, конечно сам считал.а ты все с дивана русский фашизм поддерживаешь?
0:09 We so happy)
the pt 76's are dope
dafuq why do they have a southern confederate flag?
It's not
Hitler's Magical Carpet Because they are russian fascist racists. And of course all cretins who fap hard to putler and his ilk are american racists and other douchebags from around the world.
Probably the same reason some of the Ukrainian soldiers have German uniforms, cause they don't have anything else. So they figured might as well use the confed flag, merely as a symbol of rebellion probably
red23 ukr don't use german uniforms idiot!!
In one of these vice videos they show and explain how some of the Ukrainian soldiers are using hand me downs from the Germans, like uniforms.
reading though the comments i am truly confused… let me elaborate:
1. Why would you say that everyone that made a statement was not being genuine about it? One lady made a great example: the ukrainians only offered humanitarian help once in six months, the first thing the DNR does is bring in food and water.
2. If you would be a pro-ukrainian you either would have left or you wouldn't be seeking an interview, its not like there is an armed separatist next to every single citizen
3. Stop this stupid America vs. Russia bashing! It has absolutely no positive or constructive outcome other than driving a wedge between people for absolutely no reasons. both have done wrong.
Just to clear somethings up before people start bashing me:
I am not pro russian, since I personally believe that russia has a great lack of understanding the concept of democracy and Putin is truly not the man who drives these values. But it has a rich history, with lovely people and a lot of opportunity (i have been to russia several times)
Neither am I pro USA. I love the country, the core values and the warmth of the people but take the liberty to say that I disagree on several aspects of their foreign policy. ( I have been to the States on several occasions, having travelled both the east coast and the west coast)
so if you judge, do it constructively
6 years later.
Well the situation is not that easy, both Russia and Ukraine ad wrong.
Ukraine was very hard with the minorities, and this is why reason the conflict started to begin with, but then Putin used this excuse to invade other country and take military advantage.
There is literally no wrong or right.
1) the Problem here is that those people WANT TO BELIEVE that " now they have freedom " and bullshit. But we all know that Russia is everything but not a free country.
So liberated from what ? From a problematic democracy to a fake democracy ?
Even Austria was happy to be invaded by n4z1 during WW2, but then after they discovered how bad they where they did a 160 degree turn.
The point about the good is just bullshit. How knows if they didn't want to Feed the population, they didn't had for themselves, Kiev was not helping ecc.... As well as those people are pro Russian. So of course the militia was not really inclined to help the local population which helped the separatist lol.
In every war civilians which help one of the faction get killed. What is new about that ? Again i don't day is right or Wrong, is war, nothing is write.
I dont think make sense to destroy cities to " be free " is worth the pain, because there are many Democratic way of changing things. And since this " Freedom " is lead by Putin is just another joke.
Your comment didn't age well.
@@MattyClivingthedream how so? Objectively this comment is unaffected by the war
War=Hell
Poor old guy. Can't we all just get along?
Let the Flame war begin
"-Приятно когда домой всё возвращаются." Роется в кошельке и потом "-Спасибо Вам большое". Пиздец! Просто Пиздец!
щас бы кошелек и документы перепутать..
Sad . the world is advancing and yet in this part of the world are plagued by the never ending war
Do we really think that our pacts and agreements would help us in the darkest hours? Other countries will help us. Any minute.
Any minute...
-Polish people of '39
I find it funny how they are thankful that they are getting humanitarian aid. Yet they wouldn't need humanitarian aid if Russia didn't invade in the first place. These people arn't the sharpest knives in the drawer are they?
VICE News traveled to Debaltseve a few days after it fell to the DNR to speak to some of the civilians who were slowly returning to their town, which now lies in ruins.
Watch "The Ruins of Donetsk Airport: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 95)” - bit.ly/1FFP4KN
PakistaniisPower "Russians are great" - you know , let them live like that ...that greatness they truly deserve...you will see what awaits Russia itself...
PakistaniisPower i quess you never lived in a country occupaied by the russians?we had a name for it: the red plaque...
"The DNR, in a clear violation of the ceasefire agreement, took the strategically important Ukrainian town of Debaltseve"
Was Debaltseve actually among the particular districts which the ceasefire applied to, or is Vice's bias showing again?
This is what happens when you are bombarded by state run propogantist t.v that blames America for all of its problems 365 days out of the year! I mean Jesus state run news definitely something the real nazis use to do. No country is perfect but the corruption and blatant murder that happens on the daily by all those who oppose! The only chance you had for change and someone who actually gave a fuck about Russia and the only legitiment challenge to Putin was murdered today hmmmmmmm. Wonder who could have done that???
Aiden Doyle If it was for me, I'd not even speak of any ceasefire - each and every dickhead who tries to destabilize a country (any country) deserves to die. Nobody asked Russians to move outside of Russia in the first place. They did because they were looking for better life. If they didn't find it, they could have moved back to Russia. Annexing another country (which didn't turn out to be better than your home country) will not make the shit country they left any better.
The 10 Seconds Rule in use..
VICE, please go to Artemovsk, Kramatorsk, Slavyansk and ask people do they want DNR?
Residents pro Russian: ''We are happy now, because we got what we wanted''. (City destroyed, no water and no electricity)
Yeah, sad to see that ukranians decided to bomb them instead of having a democratic referendum or something
Cry
Война страшная гражданская .всех жалко.по две стороны фронта.
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They have only one tank
Same tank
Don't worry, the fighting will start again when the summer comes
Go Novorussia. Stay strong!
Russia sucks.
a_klochko more like liberate them from the nazis just like the civies said in the video if you watched
Haha so angry and butthurt :D
Peter Griffin im gonna send homer on your ass soon.
I already killed him :D
8 years later, 100,000+ dead, several times that maimed, body parts missing, and all for a lie. Donetsk voted with 80% in 1991 to be part of Ukraine, rather than Russia. These pensioners are burying the future of their children, along with their nostalgia about USSR.
They had no option, the dnr and russian forces were already inside their town. I would have said the same if TV would have asked for my opinion there and then...
And they're winning. The worst part.
“It will be even better then before”. Should find that guy now and see what he says…
Seriously, think how many of these guys were conscripted by the DNR and slaughtered.
3:22 its stalin
Dont worry ukraine, the people of the world stand with you.
... or do they?
@@todisagreeitsokay1837 yes we do
@@NachoCheeseLP you are not living in china, india, brazil, pakistan, iran, etc. I guess... the world is biger then Germany, Hope you know this...
@@todisagreeitsokay1837 and idk if you realized but the countries you’ve mentioned for being pro Russia are not famous for their humans rights and democracy 😂 China putting people with different opinions/religions to prison/working camps, Iran just killing everyone that is kinda different than they should be, Brazil … bolsonaro or whatever this maniacs name is and so on and so on. Allright, Peace I’m outta here
@@NachoCheeseLP the question was not one about Human rights, the question was "are they?" (the whole World with the Ukraine). I Think you put cabbages in your milkrice... fair enough if you like it that way but many people just don't like it that way, for some it is the only way they don't like it. The World is not made up of "Refugees with blue eyes". Google on the Way out if you like ;)
Even though this reporter is anti Russian and it shows on how he talks on both sides it is interesting to see that most of the town residents clearly like the rebel more than that of the Ukrainian government
Dumb comment. If the reporter is anti Russian, then he wouldn't have shown the views of these people.
@@MattyClivingthedream I still give him some respect for at least interviewing those people with right subtitles
they were under Yanukovych from 2010, what did he do that caused such frustration.
Debaltsevo! Not "Debaltseve"
If you are not going to have Ostrovski back, which is what you should have done already sometime ago, and Langston is doing voice-overs because he is not there neither then you should give credit to the Ukrainians that are doing the actual reporting. When the conflict began Vice did the best coverage but now is well below average. No report in a week ? with so much that has been going on , not very professional.
Vice, thank you for showing the other side of the story. Not proportional yet, but already a progress.
"Help from Russia," but Ukrainian products
look how calm they are. If..and when this happens in america, people are gonna FREAK THE HELL OUT!!!
I give iiiit one month before they evacuate again. :P
0:33 DEBALTSEVE POCKET WAS NOT A PART OF A CEASEFIRE, STUDY SOME DETAILS BEFORE YOU SPEAK OF THEM
2:55 "DNR WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DISRTUCTION" no, mate. THE KIEVAN USURPERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS WAR AND EVERYTHING IT LEAD TO
p.s. they are NOT separatists, they want to liberate the whole Ukraine
and not just Donbass
My friends, it has often been said that I like war.
My friends, I like war.
No, friends, I LOVE WAR!
I love holocausts. I love blitzkriegs. I love defensive lines. I love sieges. Charges. I love mop-up operations and retreats.
Wars across prairies, in streets, in trenches, in grasslands, in frozen tundras, through deserts, on the sea, in the air. I love every act of war that can occur upon this earth!
I love blasting the enemy to smithereens with artillery salvos that thunder across the lines of battle.
My heart leaps with joy whenever a soldier is tossed high into the air and cut to pieces by well placed sniper rounds!
And there is nothing like a tank operator using a Tiger Acht-Acht to destroy enemy tanks.
And the feeling that comes when a soldier runs screaming from his blazing tank only to be mowed down by heavy machine gun fire is such an exquisite feeling.
Like when ranks of infantry brandish their bayonets rushing into the enemy line.
It moves me deep within my heart to watch a fresh recruit stabbing over and over into the bloated chest of a long-dead enemy.
The sight of deserters being strung up from a street lamp is an irresistible pleasure.
And there is nothing more arousing than the sounds made by prisoners of war dropping like flies, screaming in agony as they're mowed down by ear piercing Schmeissers!
When a band of pitiful resistance fighters makes their final stand with nothing but small arms, only to have their city smashed to atoms block by block by 4.8 ton bombshells, I'm in ecstasy.
I love it when my forces are ravaged by a Russian armored division. It's so sad to see towns and villages that were supposed to be defended at all costs, being laid to waste, their women and children being raped and killed.
I love to be squashed under the heel of the British and American war machines. The humiliation as my men crawl around like vermin, ducking the JAG bombers flying overhead.
Gentlemen... all I ask for is war. A war so grand as to make Hell itself tremble.
okay there hellsing
@@ellie_ex waited 6 years for someone to get that reference ... not disappoint lol
@@OverlordZephyros Six years, And not a single man or woman of culture got it lmao Some people need to brush up on their anime amirite? Great show
That's cute and all but when your shoving your friends guts back inside him and he's screaming for his mother while your half deaf from the artillery thats making your shelter a little smaller every round and then it stops and the ground is still shaking because enemy armor is overwhelming your lines now and you don't have any anti tank missiles I dare you to say that silly poem
US and EU be like:
It's Debaltevo! not Debalteve
Was that Confederate flag I saw flying above that tank?
If so why are they flying and Confederate flag?
Its flag of Novorossia
@@alexden7714 thank you for confirming.
After this comment I did some research for myself.
@@smokeytokyo4553 You are welcome
Seeing Che tattooed on that man's chest makes me sick
I can smell Russophobia from the heart of Vice
7 years later and your comment hasn't aged well. The vice reports will become a important historical document of why you don't let a Russian dictator start conflicts and get away with it.
God bless you guys, all we need is peace, take it back
Any news on Simon Ostrovsky and his courageous hunt for the Russian army in Ukraine ?...anything?
Redirected to the Middle East.
Sadam Hussein is alive and well in Debaltsevo!
First off, the ONLY way this could be HALF WAY LEGIT is IF THEY HAD A VOTE AND "THE PEOPLE VOTED TO BE RUSSIAN" and if THEN Kiev had the Ukrainian Army shell the cities that voted to become russian, THEN they would be able to "try" to say that what they are doing is legit- BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!! Instead, putin tried to get Ukraine's President to "just hand the country over to him", and when that didn't happen (because the people rise up- that is what that whole fight in The Maiden was all about), putin put in his "Plan B", which was a HOSTILE TAKE OVER!!! (and that is what this is)
Putin already had everything set up for it (with people that were armed, all over the east part of Ukraine), and once putin saw that he couldn't pull the same crap in the rest of Ukraine that he did in Crimea (a military take over), he started this war. Now, over 5000 are dead (which IS BLOOD ON HIS HANDS "AND THOSE THAT ARE DOING THIS FOR HIM!!!!- which they will see ON THAT LAST DAY), and now "anyone" that wants to stay Ukrainian there CAN'T EVEN SPEAK OUT (or they'll be killed by these PIECES OF CRAP!!!). That is why they wont let a "legit vote happen- EVEN NOW!!!!" Instead it's all of these "thugs" running around with guns, THREATENING EVERYONE TO NOT TALK TO THE PRESS, UNLESS ONE OF THEM IS STANDING THERE TO MAKE SURE THEY SAY WHAT THE DPR WANTS!!!!- And that is what this is, people that just talk the "pro russian propaganda".
Bottom line: "Legally ALL THOSE THAT WANT TO BE RUSSIAN *HAVE TO* JUST MOVE TO RUSSIA!!!!" That country was MADE FREE from russia (when perestroika happened) BECAUSE IT WAS "UKRAINE", NOT RUSSIA!!!! And when this piece of crap in this vid says "russia built those cities"..., it's more like "YOUR COUNTRY (russia) MURDERED THE UKRAINIANS BY THE MILLIONS, FORCED IT'S PEOPLE UPON THE UKRAINIANS, THEN *FORCED 'THEM' TO BUILD THOSE CITIES!!!!" (while the Kremlin just sat back and laughed about it!!!!) Also, THE UKRAINIANS "STILL" LET YOU LIVE IN THEIR COUNTRY AFTER PERESTROIKA HAPPENED!!!!- Which everyone sees now WAS A MISTAKE!!!!!!
So, ALL OF YOU "WANNABE RUSSIANS" BETTER GET THE HELL OUT "BEFORE WE COME!!!!!" (U.S.A.) FOR IF YOU ARE STILL THERE WHEN WE COME, "WE WONT BE TAKING ANY PRISONERS!!!!!" (you WILL BE IN HELL "THAT DAY!!!!!") You can BANK ON THAT!!!!!!!!!!!
MOTOFIENDXXX
Thanks friend---you put it well.
another *chairborne* soldier with "military expertise" in CoD and BF, but a ticket to Ukraine and participate if you want. (hint: in a war not just you can kill people, you might get killed too)
Иван Бардов If I die, then I'll go to Heaven, but for the record: "I'm pretty good", I haven't even been wounded yet- so I'll take a good number of them before any of them get me, and you can BE SURE: "ALL THOSE THAT I GET 'WILL' BE GOING TO HELL!!!!!" The fact that they are EVEN THERE to begin with settles that!!!!- And when we go into Russia, ANY that stand against us WILL GET THE SAME!!!!! (because of "why" we're there as well) Rev. 21:8
MOTOFIENDXXX
of course, how can you get wounded in the comment section of youtube?
Иван Бардов I'm on call- I can get called back up to go (I've already been told that the chances are good for that).
at 3:08 that guy says under Nazi occupation wearing an Adidas jacket, who founders were Nazis is kind of funny.
"We've constructed a life support camp and built humanitarian aid points. Tomorrow, we will organize social welfare payments for those who need them. Today, we'll restore the mobile phone reception and water will also be restored. The electricity will be fixed during the week."
Now obviously these are all great things, and I hope they're telling the truth about their intentions and their capabilities, but where's this funding supposed to be coming from?
I hope everyone here can agree that Russia's aggression is direct parallel to nazi Germany. It all starts when the country ( Germany and Russia) say they are defending "their people". Does that mean that the world should start wars because of ethic diversity? No, you work and fix the issues, not create new ones. I support both sides on their ideals but since Russia is helping the DNR/LPR the Ukraining government deserves support from America, and for everyone who says that would make things worse, things have been getting worse since the annexation of crimea.
Smart one... The UKRAINIANS stated this war when they rolled out the tanks to suppress political dissent. It's not complicated. They replaced one dictator with another.
Still locals call proKiev forces Nazis for some reason. And things have been getting worse since coup in Kiev.
The coup was because the government turned down economic benefits because Russia didn't want the European Union next door. Grow up and look past the nationalism and look at the facts.
MsJD13 Russia do not care about EU. But Russia do not want NATO bases at door step. Its strategical important thing.
Coup was cause Russia suggested better economic deal if Ukraine choose integration with Russia. So USA and EU decided to use force to change goverment.
***** That's adorable, just because I'm a United States Marine does not mean I cannot read the language I grew up speaking. Simple fact is, the Ukrainian government is committing war crimes on a level that would make Palestinians blush.
Long live Novorussia!
It goes by Malorussyia now
Of course they are going to support the citizens of their own country first before immigrants.
SEE! The Ukrainians side with God and the good side! Slava Russia! God is always successful!
Russia is not god Russia sucks ass.
So does Peter griffin! Your a funny troll arent you?
No I am a Jew that's why
Seems legit.
1:53 Yes that is correct, but following that logic Russia should be a territory of Ukraine, not the other way around.
Why are majority of those who stay behind in all the videos elderly?
why did the NAVO not help ukraine out?