A122 Lower Thames Crossing fly-through
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- This fly-through is an illustration of the design of the A122 Lower Thames Crossing, 15 years after road opening. It has been produced for information purposes only, based on the preliminary design in our Development Consent Order (DCO) application. Due to the level of detail presented in this visualisation, some elements of the project design are not visible. Full detail of the design, its parameters and environmental impacts can be seen in the DCO application documents.
You can find out more about our Development Consent Order application, here: nationalhighwa...
This really captures the accuracy of the road network, even in animations the drivers can't stay in the left lane :D
Needed a rail crossing as well! Getting south of the river by train from Essex is a pain
I agree. When the bridge between Sweden & Denmark was built a rail crossing was automatically incorporated. Why should public transport be omitted from transport plans? If more people were able to travel by train, there'd be less congestion, so it'd be a win-win. Could it be because our railways are not publicly owned and shareholders don't want to make that kind if investment without some payback guarantees? Probably too long a timescale for them!
There are plans for that tram between Kent and Essex so that will probably be your rail crossing
Yeah well, if they put in the station for the fast train they have that comes across to Purfleet to get to London, we could have used that! 😡
The stretch between Stratford and Ebbsfleet on high-speed one involves crossing the River Thames, just next to Dartford Crossing
@@nssportstv7231 Yes but that's no use to those of us for example who'd like to go from Thurrock to Dartford (or say Brands Hatch like I often do) by train
Start it ASAP, I'd like to see it finished before I pass onto pastures new.
Long overdue, great addition to the road network. Will ease the pressure on the Dartford Tunnel.
lol for a couple of days!
It will only create more traffic - what would really help is a rail or tram link: th-cam.com/video/CHZwOAIect4/w-d-xo.html
Watching how the new Lower Thames Crossing road will look like once it’s completed will make such a difference.
Wow! Looks like there will be hardly any traffic 15 years after build…
Lol
In your dreams though, you think people going to Stop travelling from 15 years from now 😂
Absolutely. You will be taxed off the roads under the net zero mania. Remember, petrol and diesel cars will no longer be sold and full on net zero will only be 12 years after this scheme is due to complete.
Never seen the traffic flow this well, one breakdown or accident in the tunnel and the surrounding areas will be gridlocked for hours as per usual.
Horrible horrible examples of driving practice while in the tunnel @4:19. Cars far to close, cars not moving over to the left, trucks far too close. I take it that's how nationalhighways wants people to drive...
Looks good. Add cycle routes and tunnel and you've got my support.
Avoiding the Dart Tunnels will improve my Canterbury/Cambridge time. Should also help on the way south. Plus as a bonus improve air quality in the Dart Crossing area.
Do you ever see the A127 car park between 6am and 9am.
Yes, building new roads is always an air quality bonus(!) Sorry for the sarcasm... But new roads bring more cars, a rush of new houses and businesses, Dartford will very soon be just as busy. That's why they're built, as a spur for economic growth.
However, electric cars = you will end up being right anyway so 🤷♂️
Exciting project! Lets get on a build it (ideally with adequate hard shoulders along the route)
Seems to have brought together a lot of good things. Surprised the wooded areas are so small, and don't seem to link up well with existing areas and themselves. Even more surprised that there is so little cycling infrastructure; there are a few footbridges, but no mention of cycle bridges/tunnels. I would hope/expect that at this timescale, cycling will be an even bigger part of UK life, and this sort of project has to think about this now.
I wish I felt the same sense of surprise. Completely what I expected. A big road, and some trees planted to ease our conscience. Roads for cars are a known spur for economic growth, cycling isn't viewed as providing economic growth. My hunch is that it's much smaller, and that there's very little in the way of evidence.
I wish we built the world around people more, that more things were done as an economic loss but gave a social gain.
It's a highway scheme - highways are for motor traffic!
Can't wait for the manifestation of LTC. No more delay, please !!! Total transformation of everyone life for good.
Years and years of further disruption on top of what there all ready is!
Born and bred here and don’t miss it one bit!
Why a A road? 8 lanes and and A road?? I think im bad a counting if its 8 or 6. Pull a trumpet interchange or spaghetti one. This needs to be a motoway.
Idk if the M2 might get extended to meet the interchange.
Incidentally why wasn't the brownfield sites nearer London (on both the Essex and Kent side) used ?
It should be a motorway complete with hard shoulders. Instead we get a cheaper, more dangerous "smart motorway" type road. They've called it the A122 to try to hide this fact.
Well, that's 15 minutes I'll never get back! Where's the commentary? Where are the pedestrian and cyclist routes?
That will be an after thought 🤔
tramway linking Essex & Kent would be useful too
I can't watch this video without thinking of Tantacrul's video about corporate "nothing music"! Also did you not think small white text on a light blue background would be difficult to read?
Looks OK but...........surely not far enough East? Seems to me to save minimal miles for those in Southend and / or Canterbury?
Indeed. I'm on the Southend side, and it's not much further to reach the dartford crossing. However build it further east and it will be too wide to build over.
I live in this area of Essex and I don’t recognize all this green land. There is housing all over. Orsett has a busy hospital and school, the A13 is already busy, the A127 will become even more backlogged than it already is. Traffic in this part of Essex is already at a standstill this road will not help.
Fantastic project.But freight traffic coming from Dover and Eurotunnel using the crossing will be held up coming of the M20 at junction 6 Blue Bell Hill and getting on the M2 at the top of Blue Bell Hill,or otherwise the M2 will have to run all the way unhindered to Dover.
Extra realism from the tailgating and middle-lane-hogging in the tunnel itself (4:17 onwards). FFS, you're National Highways - if people gravitated left you wouldn't need to widen half the roads you do!
I agree with the need to find a way of encourage all drivers to 'gravitate left'.
We need to start construction asap
I was impressed with the level of middle lane hoggers shown! That said, if this is supposed to be 15 years after completion then that's 2045... I'd have hoped there'd be a significant number of full self driving cars on the road by that point. Hopefully they're not programmed to stay in the middle!
This project should also include rail links.
Such a shame it rips right through Thames Chase. Many happy memories there.
Coming from the southern section of the M25 it doesn't join up! Surely we need a crossing that allows the congested M25 traffic to choose an alternative route to ease such congestion. This is not fit for purpose!
Do you mean traffic traveling anti-clockwise (or from the south on a map) can't join at the new m25/Lower Thames junction? If you do, then that would make 0 sense considering you would have just passed junction 30, the A13, which has a direct and closer connection to the LTC a few miles down the road..
Edit: If you were coming from beyond junction 30, you'd need to cross the QE2 bridge, so not sure why anyone would do that just to go up to this new junction and then back down through the LTC. Just get the A2 from junction 2 and save yourself 15 miles..
I'm 74 - will never happen in my lifetime!
How does this effect the pollution ( dust and noise) in the local areas? Tilbury already has an extremely high volume of pollution from cars, lorries, ports, building works, wood burning factory. This will be awful for those who live here.
I see the video simulation correctly depicts the all too familiar U.K. habit of Lang hogging along the inside of the tunnel!
The present crossing at Thurrock is a right pain in the arse when the jokers close the bridge because of an accident or high winds. The surrounding areas just get gridlocked. Building the New crossing should start now
It's certainly needed and I'm cheered to see some concessions to wildlife but green "corridors" and/or wildlife tunnels need to be created in order to make habitats viable. I would also like to see a cycle path and think there's a real missed opportunity in terms of a new rail line. One should be built with every new major bridge or tunnel. Why not get 2 engineering projects out of the way at once, save mess, disruption and share cost?
No mention of the inevitable toll charges
Build it already you've got support it's needed
That new A13 junction is absolutely ridiculous. It has to be one of the largest motorway junctions in the country in terms of footprint apart from maybe M6/M1/A14, Spaghetti or the M6 toll Junction in Birmingham? If they can build relatively compact junctions for other high use junctions such as M25/M1, M25/M3 or M25/M4 why does this new A13 junction need to be so large? It will cost a fortune to build and maintain. Even allowing for future proofing It looks like overkill. Some of those slip roads could be built way shorter than shown on the plan. 🙁
Could make the signs so they stand out more. It’s green on green on green.
This really needs a junction with the A128
Dirty great big project that will have a huge affect on my area, wrecking roads and routes on my commute to friends, family and work. I'm not for it, that's for sure.
Hell yeah, let's tarmac over as much green belt land as possible. What have trees ever done for us?
Oh look! Your building it in the wrong place!
I find it very odd that the fly-through shows so much traffic in the middle and outside lanes when the nearside lane(s) are empty, particularly in the tunnel itself. I thought this was totally against the Highway Code and you could be fined for it #justsaying
Not enough exits! The UK needs to copy the USA for this (e.g. there needs to be one for the A128 heading north?!) ~ Other comments have covered cycle routes but we are rapidly moving into the electric vehicle era & there is not one EV charging area ~ surely it makes sense to build/plan this in somewhere (in both directions) given the infrastructure & groundworks neccessary to provide this facility? It will pay for itself eventually!
The LTC/A13 junction will be 1 mile from the Orsett Cock (a128) junction. You'll be able to get from the new road to the a128 in 2 minutes.
Going to destroy the wildlife. But doesn't matter about discussions as you've already started this on the Tilbury side.
They don't give a s### about that, they won't stop til the whole country has been concreted over
Discussions are always just a P R exercise in the UK
Long overdue. Get building....
Yrs of talking, lets get it built, dartford crossing is i nightmare every day every hr , i tried the tunnels at midday its still crazy, queue at junction 3 as normal every day .
How come this and every media mention on the PROPOSALS and APPLICATION always say 'it WILL' ? Not yet got planning permission but obviously a done deal. When the A13 was upgraded some years ago there was a new roundabout built with an exit going nowhere except where the crossing will join it. Coincidence eh?
1 there is no new roundabout or existing one on the a13 where the LTC junction will be and 2 if there was, and they had, well done them for planning ahead!
Looks like another area of nice Kent countryside will be covered in concrete. The Thong junction looks like concrete spaghetti...I bet the planners enjoyed that bit. Still not to worry we have a token lake and token green bridge to help nature. Odd this is still being considered with the government focus on green transport and electric cars. The civil engineering will look really superb devoid of cars ! Seems like a vanity project, not for the benefit of Kent inhabitants.
And blighting peoples lives in the process.🤮🤢🥵😤😠🤬😣🖕👎
this is exactly the same comment that was made about the cut-through for the M3 by the wetlands near Winchester. the delay was years, the cost spiralled and once the work was done environmentalists had to admit that not only did the wetlands and surrounding countryside return to its former glory - it was better, much less polluted, wildlife has returned and thrived and residents did not have cars and lorries thundering past them at all hours, instead they were contained on the motorway. (also said about M25).
In this instance, not only will the traffic disperse quickly and cleanly, it will also prevent the huge polluting delays further up - ie Dartford and Blackwall. the real nuisance and unnecessary tunnel project is Silvertown.
@@jazzyaddick8930 So says a NIMBY, Or someone who works for National Highways
@@jazzyaddick8930 unfortunately that is mostly incorrect. Whilst there was some very successful environmental mitigation in place to try and offset some of the impact of the M3, it has completely severed habitat. Not improved it overall.
@@jazzyaddick8930 Care to share your sources for that information? It's very easy to say what you like. I'd like to check into that if you could be so kind as to share where you got that information from.
Does anyone else watch this and wonder if a fraction of the millions that will be spent constructing it were used improving infrastructure in the north of England, possibly there would be an improvement of economic conditions there and less of an overheated situation in the south east of England?
Folk up north must watch this and feel even more like the poor relations. It harms both ends of the country.
We need a more strategic approach to nationwide development, not just empty sound bites. You will never get that from the Tories. Are any other political parties going to offer a decent vision of the future?
So people in council slums (which I pay towards )don’t like it, boo who! Cry me a river, build it now
This video is rubbish . It shows no houses or other buildings which some off will be bulldozed through . It is also being built in the wrong place . Also due to the country being in a state it is in the money could be spent on many needed things ie . Hospitals ,schools and other needed now ! Waste of money all round .😢
All this will do, is bring the misery and chaos of the Dartford crossing further into Kent. The area will be ruined.
I thought this had the kybosh on it last year. I think it is time more effort was made to route heavy traffic to a port north of Thames. Why this continual focus to one point which is now inconvenient to whole country. It speaks of money in high places. Forget all the outside money from foreign countries and take control of our own borders and development. Labour want policies to put before the public so there is one but they have always failed on investment. Conservatives expect investments by others but want a kick back. Liberals want investments but offer nothing but hand wringing and nobody else wants anything but bloody badgers. Come on Britain we can do better than all this rubbish!
Be like Wales and do nothing, we didn't get our relief road why should you build yours we have to put up with congestion it's not a big deal
I was kidding apart from the relief road, our government doesn't care about investing into the country and Wales is poor compared to England because the UK government doesn't share, as we were supposed to get a cut of the budget, but Wales hasn't seen a penny so much for a united kingdom
'promosm' 😏
This is very pretty and nice to look at. However the delays with commencement of construction is enhancing congestion and poor air quality (by slow moving traffic) in Dartford, as well as causing extended journey times for all. Hows about starting full scale construction today, save the money used to make the video and get the lovely road open. Your delaying is a national embarrassment, and a cause for excessive project costs.
Before COVID would have been even better, the road would be close to opening by now. The joys of wasted opportunities.
The quicker I get my x5 home during traffic hour the better , stop oil will no doubt have something to say , I’ll put my car in sport + burn even more fuel 👍👍
why can't you just get the eco loons to lay down over the river thus saving all this time and money.
Due to the fact the countries in the s*** we announced we are cancelling this project for the foreseeable future
Moving the ULEZ and congestion charge further into north west Kent.