Josh Pate On The Big12 Winning A National Title (Late Kick Cut)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- The Big12 has several new members while some old ones have left, and on Late Kick Live Ep 515 Josh Pate discussed how significant it would be if a Big12 team ended up winning the College Football Playoff in the first year of the expanded format. Which team (if any) could pull this off? Will Utah or Arizona win it as newbies? How will Colorado fit in? Will Iowa State rebound? What about mainstays like Kansas State, Oklahoma State, or TCU? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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Kstate makes the playoff and wins it’s first round game this year, but unfortunately Josh is probably right about it being very unlikely a B12 team wins it all in the near future. However, if a B12 team is overlooked and stays healthy, it is possible. TCU ran into UGA, but if OSU had beat UGA, TCU’s odds would have been much better. So, I do believe it’s possible, but it is possible.
Not enough talent at K State
It would be great if one of the Big12 teams won the national championship. I’m a Texas fan saying this. I still love the Big 12.
Would love to see Texas crush the SEC.
Coming from a KState fan.
Sooner fan here... me too. I hate what money and misplaced ambition has done to this sport.
@@michaelrothe7804 in all fairness. OU was a freakin machine in the Big12. Happy to see Longhorns finally getting it together. Glad that my KState has a decent shot every year going forward. Best of luck to both OU and UT.
Honestly would love to see you both roll through the SEC.
I said the same thing for aTm and Mizzou. Mizzou had a pretty good first couple seasons and are turning it around again.
I would love to see the Big12 win the national championship
Try PlayStation football.
The Big 12 teams will be underdogs against the real heavyweights of college football. I personally would love it if Utah, say, won a quarterfinal at home against Ohio State and then took down LSU in the semis and Georgia in the national title game. It would be like when the wild-card New York Giants in 2007 took out (in order) Dallas, Green Bay and then an 18-0 New England to win the Super Bowl.
nah.
@@detectif1061nah to your nah
@@detectif1061Go UTES!!! 🙌
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It wide open with the Big 12 but I hope that that one the hateful 8 wins it all
a super vet team like oklahoma state winning it all this year would do wonders for college football
Utah has a chance! They beat OK STATE away game, win the Big 12 Title Game, then go on to beat Alabama and Georgia. Wahoo🎉 I can hope can’t I?
Go Utes!
UCF winning the first real playoffs would be some nice karma. The first undefeated team of the CFP era and the only team to be left out and finish undefeated. And they've already beaten UGA in a post season play :) Even if they don't, super excited for the first season with a playoff!
Utah or one of the Kansas teams hosting a playoff game in January will be fun to watch. Bama or Texas could be freezing they're balls off. 😆
It actually snows in Alabama nowadays. It also snows in Texas as well
That's true, but it's nothing like freezing temps at high altitude. The frigid air already takes your breath away, add in the low oxygen and you are gassed after a few plays.
@@Swooperz11 the S.E.C will be ready for all challenges. I promise
@@WangHungLo not like Kansas
@@darrenheaton5989 since when has Kansas ever been relevant in college football? No one is scared of Kansas football. I promise. Kansas can't even win their Conference. Much less a National Championship
Iowa State winning it all would be story book or blockbuster movie ending level of awesomeness.
I would rather another SEC team win than Iowa State
I'm here for the Cyclone Stan Channel Josh...So throw up a Jack Trice stadium background and lets Go! 🚨🌪🏈🚨
Josh Pate saying the hard truth, the XII is America's conference
Trust the climb, Josh
Gotta love all these talking heads when it comes to the real possibility with the latest news on the NCAA and the judgement and when some of us suggest the future of college sports is on a frail spiral of death.. They think of their check book and laugh and giggle... the future is bright.. because they know if this eventally goes sideways.. They will need to find a real job.
I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the Big 12 to win a "natty."
In 2013, Bud Elliott, a national recruiting analyst at 247Sports, created the blue-chip ratio. A college football team’s blue-chip ratio is the percent of four- and five-star prospects (scholarship players only) on its current roster. Elliott surmised that a team had to have a blue-chip ratio over fifty percent to have enough talent to win a national championship. No team without a Blue-Chip roster has won a national championship in the last twenty-five years.
The sixteen teams that made the cut in 2023 were Alabama (90%), Ohio State (85%), Georgia (77%), Texas A&M (73%), Clemson (72%), LSU (71%), Texas (70%%), Oklahoma (70%), Oregon (67%), Notre Dame (65%), Florida (64%), Miami (61%), Penn State (55%), Michigan (54%), USC (52%) and Auburn (51%). The breakdown by conference is: SEC=8, B1G=5, ACC=2, Independent=1.
The Big 12 has lost their only two Blue-Chip teams--Texas and Oklahoma. Could a Big 12 team win their Round 1 game in a 12-game playoff? Absolutely! However, do you remember what happened in 2023? TCU, with seventeen 4-star and 5-star players gave it their all against a team that had three times that number of superstars and eked out an upset. "Go Frogs!" The following week, having left it all on the field, they were absolutely crushed by a second elite team.
The deck is stacked against the Big 12. When the dust settles on the ACC's GoR kerfuffle, the only team outside the SEC and the B1G that will have a reasonable shot at a national championship will be The Fighting Irish.
TCU did beat Michigan let’s not forget that. Georgia would have boat raced just about anyone. Maybe not as badly as TCU, but they were going home with a ship regardless. Point is, TCU was not as woefully outclassed as people think. Not to mention the fact that FSU got equally as trounced (yes I know players sat out but they still had talent).
That math is kinda bogus because Saban tipped the scales on everything. Kirby isn't Saban. Even though he's the best in the game now. When you look at the list you have. 80% of those schools aren't winning chips. On top of that. It's a new world. Salary will change the model.
@@lorenzohaynes3886 Well, of the ones he listed, 11 of the programs have won at least one national title in the last 25 years. I think the only team that has broken the mold "recently" was 2010 Auburn, who was under 50 percent but had Cam Newton.
And salaries will only tip the scales to favor the big boys, most of whom are already cleaning up in recruiting and are on that list.
Biased as always here: A Kansas team winning it all would be monumental. Kansas - the epitome of no one cares about us and we’re literally called the “fly over state”, people say get the hell out of Dodge which came from here, I’ve had flight attendants actually ask if we still have covered wagons out here 😂. It would be the best story!
Last b12 team was Texas
Biggest thing about winning a championship is having the opportunity. I maintain rg3 could have won a championship with the opportunity. Undefeated ucf too. Probably several others. Now that these teams have more opportunities they'll inevitably win more big games
Even the bots arent holding their breaths on B12 winning another Natty. Im sure it'll happen eventually but no time soon.
Bet it happens this year.
@@highbrixgardens9491 Oklahoma Softball has a good chance this year but were talking FB here . Its going to be awfully hard for mostly all programs to win 3 or 4 games. Hopefully your squad is deep enough and has been battle tested in league play.
It'll happen.
@@highbrixgardens9491Utah could with the amount of talent they’re bringing back.
With conference realignment, the SEC and Big Ten are even more powerful than they already were. Sure, the Big 12 has a shot, and even the ACC with Clemson and FSU. But not to the level that the SEC and Big 10 does
Man, Iowa States gotta worry about winning 10 games in a season first.. Something they have never done.
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I don’t think he’d be celebrating if Colorado won
If Colorado wins a natty, we'll celebrate them. The reason everyone hates them is that they've been strutting around like they won a natty (while also playing the victim) despite going 4-8 last year.
@@kevinpowers2959I was happy with 4-8 but I’m not seeing a natty yet. We need true player development
@jimmyleebaker as a cowboys fan I’d take shedeur or Travis don’t matter and definitely coach prime if it was possible
Noah Fifita and T-mac will Win it all with Arizona
Nobody in the Big XII has enough talent to win it all. Maybe win a game with some luck, but not the whole thing.
West By God Virginia ❤
Wait till CU does it this year, yall heads gonna 🤯
Wait till CU doesn’t even make a bowl game again, y’all heads gonna 🤯
Nah not that overrated 4-8 team😭
Josh went out on a limb last season and picked okst to make the CCG , but four weeks in he tweaked it to ou. Hahaha I can't take him seriously because okst returns the entire production from last year and he hasn't once said they will make it this season I guess because of the vegas odds, hello okst owns the vegas odds throughout the last 10 years. Even EA Sports wasn't this thick headed and late to the party
Big 12 will be interesting especially since most think CU is a joke! Don’t believe the negative reporting, Coach Prime stays, CU in Big 12 playoffs, Big 12 will be represented!
dreaming
CU is not good. I’ve seen them play. They got talent but no cohesiveness.
I don't see it happening.
lol Iowa state should worry about winning 10 games first
Can we just call it the BIG-16 already?
NeverNeverLand is the only place where a Big XII (or make that 16) team wins a national football title.
Not even close
I'm sure Brett Yormark is getting applause for that Big XII TV deal. But in 7 years there will be no money for you. I'm afraid it's over for the XII.
Then the networks and poachers should prepare for antitrust and racketeering lawsuits.
Can we please stop changing the titles of videos and posting as new content? This is part of another video Josh. We love your content either way but come on. Me thinking a new video came out 😭
please
What if a G5 team wins 2 playoff games
Lol
all about depth with that many games. g5 and big 12 just dont have it.
Not happening
Maybe in 2040
LMFAO.
Georgia has culture down? Let’s ask their state highway patrol officers…
I am surprised that the NFL and NBA are not doing anything about the severe lack of dedication in the school they have chosen first. The NFL and NBA would look heavily into the dedication an athlete shows in college for building a championship team. Unfortunately, athletes' dedication is up for auction to the highest bidder. How sad! Dedication to each athlete is the basis of winning championships. consistently.
The thought of the Big 12 winning a natty make me feel kind of rattlesnakey.
The big 12 is not America's conference name a blue blood left in 2024 how many national championships after Oklahoma and Texas leave in football
Try punctuation.
@@kalebstuckey570 hmm who cares about punctuation on these is this English class because I don't give 2 shits
The Big 12 stinks. The A.C.C. outclassed them in basketball, they didn't get one team in the upcoming College World Series.And a few people see a few teams in the Big 12 leaving for greener pastures. Not everybody likes the Dallas Cowboys.
big 12? meh