Ranking The Best and Worst Big 12 Football Stadiums
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NCAA '25 left the Big 12 almost completely out of their top 25 toughest places to play, so I decided to do my own Big 12 list. Check out my rankings of the toughest places to play in the new Big 12.
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Night games in Morgantown should definitely be S tier.
The build up and first quarter or so of K-State-WVU in 2012 was an amazing atmosphere. Was also there for a night game in 2014 when K-State played there but it was like -15 wind chill so that did put a damper on things
The most impressive thing about WVU's home record is that they have been VERY mediocre the past 5 seasons in general but, still won the vast majority of games in their stadium.
Love that place. It's awesome
Good list… Although I would move West Virginia to S tier and Tech to A tier.
Me too!
You’re out of your trees.
@@TheYates27UT fan?😂
@@TheYates27 Kansas doesn't got trees bro
Yeah I'd stick Tech in A tier. We know the record hasn't been great, but it's not because the crowds have been bad. Minus a couple of Matt Wells years, the fans have shown up and sold out season tickets consistently. I might also put Iowa St in S Tier. Same deal as Tech, the record isn't great but their fan support is fantastic.
Not totally unreasonable
There is a clear division between S-tier and A-tier. OSU and Utah have great home field advantages despite 50,000+ seat stadiums. They have winning cultures and unlike other places it doesn't matter if you're playing them at night, homecoming, etc. Odds are that you'll lose, statistically. Nobody else is winning 80%+ home games.
As an Utah fan am looking fwd to seeing Utah play at Boone Pickens Stadium this year, hopefully gameday or FOX big noon kickoff is there for that game. Might be B12 game of the year. What a cool looking atmosphere and stadium. It always seems hype and loud there. I’m also a big fan of Mike Gundy. Go Utes!!
@@maccleezy801 There's not many good games that week, so I bet we get Gameday. Should be a good game. Needed something else now that bedlam is gone.
WVU should be S too
@@jacobandrew579 OSU is 5-1 in Morgantown since WV joined the Big 12. It's been a nice home away from home for OSU.
WV is 19-10 the last 5 years at home, and 12-6 the last 3. That's B tier to me.
WVU should be top tier. Even when we suck we’re tough to play at home.
Underrated is how uncomfortable the sidelines are in Boone Pickens. There is zero space for benches, players, and equipment.
YES. I shot video from the sidelines there four times. It’s insanely tight.
That with the paddle people is a great combo. It has to have some sort of psychological effect.
This is going to be one for the books, but I would put BYU in the “S” category. When that team is right, it is a hard place to play. Have very little experience with other stadiums in the Big 12, and I’m sure they are good, but the Utah BYU games down South are rocking affairs. Utah’s tailgating is better but the stadium holds a lot of people with a large student section. Be interested in what other fans that their teams play there last year think.
Good effort here.
Very fair all around.
Will be fun to see this next 5 years unfold.
Please don’t judge Utah’s fan base by the twitter feed. Utah fans are cool. I know, I know, I’m an Utah fan, of course I’d say that but it’s true! Come tailgate with us if you are at a game in SLC, see for yourself.
Would love to! I'm in
...drove out to Provo last November & had a blast...& already have my tix for this November in S.L.C...what parking lot are you in?
...we can trade school buttons & I'll bring you a couple of other Cardinal & Gold souvys!
...looking forward to it!
...Go State!!!
...Jack Trice is a Saint!!!
Ute tailgating is very welcoming to visiting fans. Stop in for food and beer.
Jack Trice particularly tough at night.
Yes, yes it is
I’ve never been to Jack Trice Stadium, but I’d certainly like to experience a game. I think I hate them though - O-State Fan
8:59 I watched that game. Klein was bleeding from 3 places and kept pounding the rock. Dude is tough as nails and would not quit. Mad respect for him from this oSu alum.
A knock I’ve often heard for BPS is the east/west orientation. As the campus grew it became impossible to orient it north/south so someone’s playing into the sun. Also the sidelines are frighteningly narrow. It puts the crowd right on top of the action, but I worry about player safety especially for visitors who are used to having more run-out room.
Man I shot video from that sideline multiple times and it’s wild how tight it is!
Jones Stadium in Lubbock is a Big 12 A-tier atmosphere and stadium, but had a D-tier team & program 2014-2021, so the home record sucked.
But I don’t disagree with the placement until the record reflects the atmosphere/decibels, and I think that’s coming. (Heck, McGuire era Tech is 10-3 at home already.)
Also fun fact: at 3,250 ft, it’s only about 1400 ft lower than Rice-Eccles
Totally agree that there's a lot of upward potential for Tech here. Didn't know that about the elevation!
Loved the show. Love that WVU continues to be underestimated. WVU fans love being u-dogs. Solid analysis.
They got about as much respect as anybody in this video! Appreciate the kind words
A couple of Houston fans might get defensive about this and do the old classic big city and traffic arguments, but it’s undoubtedly true that we have to do something to garner more fan support and have better attendance, if we want to be respected as a power 5 school we need to show up regardless of how good the team is (that’s why I respect fanbases like Iowa State and West Virginia)
Fritz should help. He's a stud.
Utah should be much higher than they are on the EA list
Great content, as always.
Rankings seem fair, as an oSu fan, would like to see Utah get proven in the Big 12 before they get the top ranking, but I get it, they just win.
Keep up the good work 👍
#CowboyNation
Of all the games we have this upcoming season, I’m most scared of going to Stillwater.
This Ute is happy to be in the Big12 can’t wait for football to start.
@@_Doodle-bob, I hope you get to attend in person Bob, you'll have a wonderful experience! 👍
@@shawnbrigance3993 I’ve been wanting to make it to Stillwater long before Utah joined the conference. Back when I was an A1C in tech training in Biloxi Mississippi and one of my best buds over the course of those 8 months was from Stillwater. He taught me to hate OU early on and made OSU out to be the greatest institution in America.
I probably won’t be able to make it to the game this year, but might actually be out there this next spring for the Mid-South bike race. Hopefully we play again at OSU in 2026 and I’ll be there for sure.
Love it! Welcome to the conference, Bob 👍
Very fair assessment
Make KU D-tier if you like. Obviously, until the last couple years it had been since 2009 that they put a product on the field worth supporting. However, IF you were making a grade based on what KUis playing in this year, its going to be an A and there won't be a question. Two sell outs at Sporting Park and 4 games at Arrowhead with more than 50K in attendance and some world class tailgating. Its going to be EPIC.
It really was just basically by default I had to put them there for now. If there was a N/A tier, that would be more appropriate. I do think 40K is going to be a lot more epic in the new stadium than whatever the draw in Arrowhead is. Too many empty seats. Saw it when K-State-Iowa State played there back-to-back years.
Agree with assessment over all except for WVU… As an old conference rival from the Big East, it’s definitely an S tier
this year, Texas Tech is going to be way better. Everybody is excited about the new stadium and players. We will see. Gun's Up
You should have followed the instinct to move WVU up to S tier
It's definitely borderline
Wow, I agree.
I was also on the border with WVU to the S tier. Their record hinders them even though they punch over their weight at home.
In fact, I think that's a factor that people lose track of: does home field help them over-perform?
I know that it's true for the Mountaineers. K-State, absolutely. Utah, yes. OSU, yes. I would also consider BYU, just from all of their games I have watched, it makes a difference.
Also, this isn''t just home record, it's how much better does the team play than their actual ability.
I think that it's important for ISU, BYU, WVU, UU, OSU, and K-State.
Agree with all of this. I think that’s pretty spot on.
Boone Pickens is definitely S tier
Too bad that the Sunflower Showdown is NOT at Arrowhead this year which would have been AWESOME for both teams and fan bases.
Iowa State-KU will be almost as good. ISU will bring as many fans as KU will let them.
As someone who has been in Rice Eccles when Utah beat Oregon, and Mountaineer field for the backyard brawl, WVU is 100% above Utah. Utah can get loud at times, but the rowdy atmosphere at Mountaineer field is rivaled by only T. Boone Pickens.
That’s a really good perspective on it! Appreciate you weighing in
@@JohnKurtzShow Last year we went to the collusium, Rice, and Mountaineer field. There was absolutely no comparison. Where else are you going to see a baby being held up on the big screen wearing a onzie that reads "Eat Sh*t PItt".
Need to switch byu and ucf. I went to the byu Iowa st game last year and it was less than half full after half time and was not even loud once the whole game. Beautiful stadium and setting though and lots of older fans with their grandkids.
I’m excited to experience it this year. That will give me a better idea
@@JohnKurtzShow I was at the BYU v Iowa St game, and I think it’s unfair to rate the environment on that game alone. The first play of the game BYU threw an interception and Iowa st scored the next play, then on the kickoff BYU fumbled the ball and Iowa st recovers and scores 2 plays later. Iowa st won the game midway through the 1st quarter. I’ve been to every BYU home game since 2009, and it was perhaps the worst game I’ve attended. Credit to Iowa state though, they trounced BYU
I am a Red Raider and we deserve, where you put us, if we start winning it will be an unbelievable home edge, but right now you picked us correctly, we deserve B tier since we can’t beat K-state at home! what is ironic, is Matt Wells got fired after losing to K-state at home, and now he is coaching at k-state!
No doubt if Tech starts winning big that place will be an insane environment
ASk RG3, Bryce Petty, Trevone Boykin, Geno Smith, Caleb Williams, Dillon Gabriel, Sam Ehlinger, Quinn Ewers, Patrick Mahomes, or Collin Klein why it’s a tough place to play. They’re the ones who lost in Boone Pickens
That’s a helluva list
The feel in Morgantown is more like OSU and Utah then ISU, BYU, KState. So WVU is in the S tier!
I've noticed a lot of West Virginia fans use feelings rather than logic
I'm tech fan john your being fair
Experiencing both Utah and BYU games in regards to environment, full stadium, big game, Utah is electric, but the 64k people at Lavell Edwards creates the the better experience. I find that the BYU fans are definitely more knowledgeable, the Utah fans are crazier.
Can't wait to experience them both! Appreciate the perspective
Spending 30 minutes on Cougarboard dispels your BS claim of BYU fans superior knowledge of football. Half your fan base is under the age of sixteen and cry after a loss because their parents fill then with unrealistic expectation due to their own ignorance of the game.
@@utahutes63That's cute that you came up with a notion of comparing comments on a homer chat board to the actual question asked. My apologies on taking the time to have real experience and knowledge of, attending multiple games at both stadiums, what was I thinking!?
@@ercaelis2053 I too have experienced both. That's why I'm calling out your BS. Please tell me how you determine the football knowledge of tens of thousands of fans at a game and please list your criteria for determining your findings. I have my popcorn ready and anxiously waiting for your response. This should be fun.
@@utahutes63 I bet you are anxiously awaiting my reply, you sound a lot like a troll who spends way to much time on your rivals chat boards and TH-cam.
I even gave you a treat by saying that RE could be electric, and all you want to do is whine about how someone else's opinion is wrong. I don't need to justify what I've experienced, Ute fanboy. Stop trolling, and if I see you at a Y game I'll share a (real) drink with you, we can sneak it in just like we do for the Ute games. Go Cougs!!
This should be fun! I thought BYU squandered their home field last year. The staff insisted on substituting on nearly every play, allowing the opponent's defenses to bring in fresh players. It was a huge mis step imo.
When I attend any UCF game, they shoot up to top ten easily.
Can't wait till you do a basketball teir environment. ISU & KU , 1&2, undebatable.
They’re the top two for sure, but I would put AFH alone in the S tier. It’s a cut above anything else in the sport.
Can’t count the Tech stadium over the past 10 years. Tubberville, Kliff, Wells. The last 2 years have been much better plus the new stadium renovation, new boards, new audio system.
They have only lost 3 games at home since Joey.
Baylor should be a D. It’s “nice” from TV but it was slapped together cheaply and they can’t get a crowd at. All….
I was there for 2021 and they had a great season, were headed to a Big 12 title game, and it was 3/4 full.
Cinncinatti
Edit: Should have waited 6 seconds.
No worries that was my fault
Just FYI, the mountain views from LES are much better than RES. If you’re into that sort of thing.
Can't wait to see them this fall!
And its not close.
Hahahahahahaha! Are you kidding me?!! This is what it's come to....mountain views smack talk?!! Hahahaha!! You guys suck so bad now that you literally have no where else to go with the smack talk other than who has the better mountain views?!! You guys are pathetic and an absolute embarrassment to CFB!!
But with RES you also get the view overlooking the entire valley from the hilltop, which is breathtaking, especially at night. Both have the mountains in the background but BYU seems tucked under a beautiful mountain setting. Really hard to decide which is better really..
@@ckstaff this is true. I also like the way Trax wraps around the stadium and you get glimpses of passing trains. And I’ve never been to CU, but the way their stadium nestles into the hills looks amazing.
I just prefer the mountains in Utah Valley-greater prominence, more cliffs and stuff like that. But since it’s BYU and Utah we’re obligated to be petty!
i would like to see more stats on injuries, where and when they happen. Per team, per coach, per opponent, road, home, combined. Not saying Iowa State (& borderline psycho Catt Mampbell) plays dirty, but I bet they have the widest margin of injuries inflicted versus injuries sustained. I would also like to see stats compiled on conference officials as to which officials experience the most injured players per game they call. Talk about REAL accountability versus the Mainstream Downplay.
One BIG advantage for both Arizona State and Arizona is the Heat early in the Season...more so Arizona State...
Fair ranking for Cincinnati right now. THAT BEING SAID Nippert has been designed from the beginning to trap stadium noise given the ~8 story buildings that surround it. The athletic department claimed at one point it was the “most decibels per seat” in college football. Really hoping Satterfield and the boys don’t continue to tank fan support. Great list
Also, we’re on a 18-game sellout crowd streak (Game 1 has not sold out for this season, though 😬)
@@benirwin0 it seats 10 people i would hope it sells out and it isnt that loud
@@elvangulley3210 it’s 42k but if you’ve never been to a game at Nip then you have no right to say anything, actually go to a game there then come back. Your little edge lord comments a meaningless if you are just talking out of your ass with zero experience. You’re probably a fan of some bottom dweller SEC or B1G team like Indiana who is entirely irrelevant in football.
@@elvangulley3210 you don’t know ball
@@Ryan-fi8xk no im not the fool acting like Cincinnati is ohio state youre closer to being toledo
It had to hurt your inner KSU fan to only underrate Jack Trice by 20% or so. It's 2nd largest stadium in the B12, with a tailgating environment absolutely unparalleled in the B12. If Boone Pickens is S tier, Jack Trice certainly should be.
I’d listen to that argument. I’ll put it this way, if ISU had the success of OSU over the last 20 years, it would probably be a better environment than BPS is now. But, you know, 10 win seasons and all.
Had me scared that you forgot about Cincy there for a bit. I'll begrudgingly take your B...for now.
It takes the background off of some of the logos for some reason. I was super mad when I realized what happened. We can revisit it in a few years!
Bonus or negative points for fans (CU AND TCU) throwing batteries at opposing fans/players?
Certainly adds some intimidation, I suppose. Colorado probably worse than TCU
@@JohnKurtzShow At TCU I had someone charged with assault
Guess you didn't watch any CU Buff football home games last year. Guess Colorado fans are just not into Coach Prime and having Fox and ESPN on campus for three weeks straight.
ESPN and Fox were there for Prime, not the fans. One season of Prime is not enough to make you deserving of being in one of the top tiers, my friend. Iowa State fans supported a football program about as bad as Colorado pre-Prime for years. There are levels to this.
I feel like Baylor should be close to the bottom. Even when their teams were good, it didn’t feel like the stadium or crowd was all that intimidating.
Maybe I'm too scarred from 2012
Nobody’s afraid of any BigTen Stadiums let alone Camp Randle Stadium in Wisconsin. All BigTen teams sucks
All bad grammars sucks
Cincinnati?
How about Cincinnati?
Stuck in at the very end. Their logo was all black and got hidden
i thought cincinnati was in the big 12
Watch the whole video
The jump house what a joke? It isn't much better than a high School stadium
You guys really taught me the term jump house with this video 😂
@@JohnKurtzShow the Big 12 must have really lowered their standards on stadiums
WVU.... S
There's an argument there. Love the environment.
Swap BYU and Utah and you’ve got it.
No need to try being sarcastic...everyone already knows BYU sucks.
@@richaustin5849 When Kyle is gone, the Utes will wither away. Mark it down.
@@danjohnson8556 BYUs a basketball school now. You guys withered away a long time ago and have given up on football. So why do you even care about what’s happening with Utah football? Just a hater??
Anyone who doesn't agree with u is sarcastic.... got it👎
@@JT-ly1gp glad we got that cleared up for you.
I've been watching a lot of different BIG12 podcasts and this pretty much sums up the rankings:
UTAH:
Coaching- #1 or #2
Stadium- #1or #2
Football team- #1or #2
Most hated by Big12 fans- #1
Most confident team- #1
Most misunderstood school- #1
Most verbally trashed school-#1
Most triggering school to B12- #1
Biggest brand in B12-#1 or #2
biggest villain in B12- #1 developer of talent- #1 or #2
Biggest ego #1
Can't really argue with that too much, honestly
@@JohnKurtzShowits all good, every league needs a villain whether that title is deserved or not. As a Utah fan I totally recognize that we have a very loud, arrogant and sometimes irrational few on social media but I assure you most Utah fans don't feel that way and certainly not our football team and coaching staff. IMHO I don't think BIG12 fans understand how much Utah wanted the PAC to survive so our relationships with the PAC schools wouldn't be severed. As research Universities we all worked very close together and the football rivalries that had developed were extremely important to us.
Utah's first priority was to help save the PAC if possible, if that couldn't happen then find the best landing spot for our University and we were hoping to follow our rivals to the more lucrative conference the B1G and still maintain those relationships . No one can fault us for desiring that. The vast majority of Utah fans are grateful for the lifeline we received from the B12 and have the utmost respect for B12 Universities. We're excited for the upcoming football season, and no we don't think we're going to boat race the league. We're confident that we'll be in the hunt for the league championship but the smart ones aren't making any boasts or guarantees because the B12 is a very competitive league. Its not ego.
No, Utah had not earned that until they have real competition. Utah is headed to mediocre.
Utah runs the B12 now. Some things are true whether you want to believe them or not.
S Tier - WVU, BYU, OSU
A Tier - Utah, ISU, Tech, UCF, Baylor
B Tier - KSU, TCU, Colorado
C - ASU, AZ, Cincinnati
D - Houston, Kansas
Cincinnati:
Had a 32 game home win streak before last season
Is on a 18 game sell out streak at home (and when not sold out are consistently above 90% capacity)
The 2nd oldest stadium in college football with a great atmosphere and one of the best places in the country to watch a football game
Your Grade: C
😂😂🤡🤡
ALSO BYU S TIER? 😂😂 what are you gonna do at that stadium? drink some milk and meet a bunch of racist cult members?? Nah I’ll pass that sounds horrendous.
Lol rated by a BYU fan clearly. RES is much harder to play in than LES. The stats just prove it.
Hot take!
@@tye2304 As a BYU grad, I still have to agree with you. Utah has had the superior record the last decade, and undoubtedly the better teams. That said, when the teams were consistently really good (back in the 80s when I was a student, that stadium rocked, and I can't imagine a better place to spend a Saturday afternoon or evening). Hope springs eternal, as they say.
@@ronr6450 totally fair and I do think BYU will become much more competitive in a P4 conference. They are one of the teams I worry about playing moving forward as the games are always close. The only thing that could probably hold BYU back is their strict honor code for recruiting top talent.
Lmao. Did you say Iowa State's stadium if a difficult place to play? If so, how does that square with a century of losing seasons?
Richard helping me make $$ again! My man!
Having BYU in any tier other than d tier is a sham lol they were good against moutain west teams at hime joined the big 12 and got there salad tossed at home several times
This comment supports the argument @ercaelis2053 made about BYU fans being more knowledgeable than Utah fans. However, I don't know if U fans are really crazier, or if they're just plain-ass stupid and never learned how to spell simple words or form a complete sentence.
TCU is the ONLY BIG 12 Team to win a Playoff Game and play for the National Championship ….They are one of the winningest College Football Teams of this century
That’s because they’re perennially the most talented, highest blue chip ratio by far, roster among New Big 12 teams. Not because they have a great crowd or home field advantage.
Also a pretty small alumni base in a big city where there are a lot of other things to do. That hurts the home atmosphere. Have been there four times to cover games.
When you have to modify how you sell tickets so that there aren't more Tech fans than TCU fans in your own building...
They are not even top big 12 winning team.
What does playoff have to do with the stadium
Can you find a better way to insult B12 schools not named Kansas State? Maybe you don't realize that the B12 nor the B8 were ever very good football conferences and for the majority of my life watching college football Kansas State was the punching bag in the conference.
In the future, find a more direct way to insult your audience.
Damn, you must be old! It's been almost 35 years since K-State was the punching bag. Appreciate the click and helping me keep some $$ in my pocket!
As someone who hasn’t missed a home game at Nippert in almost a decade that stadium deserves to be atleast A. It’s an insane environment when it’s sold out (which it normally is) and even though 42k doesn’t sound like a lot when you have that many packed into a stadium that is pretty much underground the noise level is crazy. Plus just game day experience is phenomenal with the options to hang out around campus or head downtown to the banks to party that’s only 5 minutes away.
its jv level stop it no p5 fan or player is impressed
@@elvangulley3210 my guy you really need to do your research before making idiotic statements like you just made. You’re talking about a program that is one of the most successful programs in the past 2 decades, a program who previously was in a power conference and in that conference went to 2 BCS bowls and were ranked as high as 3rd in the country, a program who in a G5 conference dominated for a decade and went to back to back NY6 bowls including a CFP playoff appearance in an undefeated season where they whooped Notre Dame on their home field, a program who after that season had 9 players drafted which was the most any team had drafted that season, a program with a devout fanbase in a top 25 media market and in a football rich state. Get over yourself Cincinnati is a bigger and more relevant program than 75% of other power conferences teams.
@@basementhorrorsreview it was a g5 playing other g5 not impressive at all just like ucf
@@elvangulley3210And you know nothing about CFB. Love how people forget when Cincy was in a power conference before and they had a stretch where they ran over almost everybody.
@@elvangulley3210 and Cincinnati while in the AAC (after previously being in a power conference) continued to beat power teams that were on their schedule. Wanna ask Notre Dame how much of a group team UC was?? You want to ask Georgia who it took a last second field goal for them to beat UC?? You literally have zero clue about football so go please be a fan of something else because you have zero knowledge of any of this.