To speak of the durability of some tanks. In the Iraq war there was an instance where a Challenger 2 had thrown a track and was stuck under fire for 24 hours before reinforcments with a recovery vehicle could arrive. During that time it sustained 279 hits with various infantry anti tank weapons (RPG-7s etc.) when reinforcments arrived the track was replaced and it drove home.
@@a05odst62 brits are always getting stuck in tanks that the enemy cant kill. You ever heard of "fray bentos"? The crew held out for I think 3 days before making it back to friendly lines.
@@snugglecity3500if I remember, the Germans didn't have/was limited on AT weapons. So they simply thought that it was not worth the resources, they tried to capture/destroy it with rifles instead. But that was from what I remember
Don't be fooled by the "jet" engine on the Abrams. It's not like a loud jet plane shooting out thousands of pounds of thrust to push the tank along. He actually *almost* touched on it at 16:23 when he says it sounds like a jet turbine like on a helicopter. That's what it is. It's a turbine, or more specifically a turboshaft. This is basically a mini jet engine, but instead of using its thrust to push the vehicle, the thrust produced is used to turn a driveshaft which of course ends up making the tank move forward. The "jet" engines on helicopters work this same way. They create power, and that power is used to help turn the propellers. He also mentioned the generator on the Abrams at 1:15. This generator is actually an auxiliary power unit, or APU, which many airplanes also have. At idle power, the turbine doesn't produce enough power to run every system in the vehicle, so they have what is essentially a separate generator that they can run so that they can have lights and other electrical stuff without running the engine. I'm an aviation nut so I had to nerd out when he kept mentioning his jet powered tank lol
Also, noise coming from gas turbine engine is in high frequency range so few meters behind the tank where the exhaust is located it will be louder than standard diesel engine, but with distance high frequency noise dissipates faster, meaning if you hear the Abrams it's already to late.
The Turbine engine also produces more torque at low RPMs when compared to a diesel motor but it consumes slightly more fuel. The systems in the tank can be run at idle but it is just more fuel efficient to use the APU, hence why they have them.
I was surprised just how stealthy an Abrams actually is. Their sound doesn't really carry that far. On the other hand, our piece of shit Bradleys I could hear coming for a half hour before I got visual contact on them up on an OP as OPFOR in training
Would really like to see this guy react to more “combat footage” as opposed to just the vehicles itself on the training range, perhaps across different games aswell!
I’d love to see this man react to the BF1 “through mud and blood” campaign. See his reactions to being inside a British MKVI tank. And how it compares to today. Could be sweet.
12:13 Correction, slat armor is meant to prevent detonation of warheads with piezoelectric fuses by crumbling them before the current reaches the base fuse.
The challenger actually has better range with internal fuel than the Abrams. Those drums on the back of the challenger can be swapped out for storage bins, but yes, can carry fuel if they need to extend the range more. It's worth noting though that diesel, which most tanks these days use, won't explode, and is actually placed strategically as another layer of protection by most nations.
I don't wanna correct Shelby here but Honeywell makes the engine. My father was one of the designers of it for allied signal now Honeywell. The turban itself is the agt1500 pared to an Allison DDA X-1100-3B. I'm glad he drove tanks and I respect him for it but I don't expect him to know all the names and companies involved in the creation of the abrams.
That did take me by surprise, I went to go see when that change had happened. It’s a thing though, being an operator. I myself am a pilot, but unlike the mechanics beyond knowing it’s a continental H-4, there’s not much more I know about the bits and pieces of the plane.
ERRORS: - T72 has an autoloader system (He mentions "some tanks have autoloaders" in other context though). - Canadian Leo tank is a German produced tank. - Both the Abrams series and the Leo series use the same guns (105mm and later 120mm). - Reactive armor is similar to a cage. It can defeat HEAT type shells. The difference is that you would need tandem reactive armor to defeat a tandem HEAT. So one can maybe argue cages are simpler and better tbh (math guy with weight calculation vs power to weight ratio prove me wrong. :D ). - Sabots, with enough kinetic energy at the point of engagement, will defeat reactive armor. - Sabot is a rod with fins, but the name sabot comes from the "form holder" around the rod that makes sure the rod is guided correctly through the barrel and in turn fall off when the rod exits the barrel. - T72 uses missiles because the gun is of lower quality and therefor does not have the engagement range of Western tanks. T14 Armata can do so as well, but I would assume it is a legacy feature rather than a need on that gun in context of Western current day 120mm. - Both the Leo and the T72 can use snorkels, but that is not what the logs are for. The logs is used to unstuck a vehicle. If it gets really stuck however it will still need a rescue vehicle. Its just that on the steps of Europe. There often isnt allot of trees. Therefor bring a log. Western tanks dont have such because their NATO doctrine was always defensive. Logs is more a "pushing forward" tool. - Tanks have tracks to to disperse the weight of the vehicle over the whole area of the tracks rather than the wheel contact points with the ground. There is no problem having a "wheeled tank". South Africa and Franc etc have had them, but as soon as you put more armor on. The risk of getting stuck with wheeled increases, then you have the context of terrain, engine power in hilly nations etc. Tanks are custom fit in regards to the nation that orders them and that is often why the same version of tank might have N or other letters at the back of the name. It has some custom change to it.
Error with what you said. The soviet/Russian tanks do not use missiles because their guns are of a poorer quality and don't have the same engagement distance as western tanks. That's wrong, their guns are of the same quality and usually longer meaning higher velocities and their APFSDS shells are also on par and with the new Vacuum 1 shells even better. The reason for the missile is for firing at fast moving targets and at helicopters due to the Russians not having smart detonated high explosive shells like the western tanks do. Instead of the Russian high explosive shells detonating in proximity to a helicopter to deal damage, they use the missile in order to guide it onto target, along with how I mentioned before, guiding it onto quickly moving vehicles that are maneuvering instead of moving in one direction to maximise chances of hitting. Also, for ERA (Explosive reactive armor) it is better than cage armor as it is not that much heavier, and can affect both tandem HEAT and APFSDS shells, it's only the very early ERA such as kontakt-1 that can only protect against single stage HEAT, but more modern ERA such as Kontakt-5 (still regarded as the worse modern ERA) can counter tandem HEAT and can reduce the penetrating power of modern APFSDS projectiles and outright destroy older ones. Also cage armor is a very cheap alternative to era, it has gaps that can be hit by the missile instead of the cage, and once a portion gets hit the cage bends and buckles from the blast exposing a larger area for a second hit, while with ERA usually only one to three blocks are affected.
@@fennoman9241 Yes it can because instead of being a regular type of ERA that just moves a plate in front of the shell or HEAT jet to slow it down, Relikt does that and also has shaped charges of its own inside it which move in sequence, with the channels closest to the one damaged detonating first, that delay means that Relikt does have a good chance at stopping modern tandem ERA. Maybe it won't stop it 100% of the time but nothing will.
Great episode. Having someone who's very knowledgeable in a different combat MOS and explaining it is great. Even having people who operated Bradley's would be cool. Or maybe 13b's? I dunno just my thoughts. Mortar men. Fistas, Gun bunnies. There's also good stories and knowledge.
We’re the only ones that use them, I was an 11b in a tank battalion I think it be cool to come on something like this and explain shit especially when they showed the Bradley he tried his best but just glossed over stuff
@@FlyingEndeavor Ah yes "Oh Bugger the tank is on fire can I get out. Sometimes it would be better to just shoot yourself with how some tanks were designed. they are nightmares to get into let alone out of.
I think WWII technology was the most interesting period in military history. The weapons were devastating and tanks and submarines were reliable enough to be fielded in large numbers, yet it was the skill of the crew and the individual that won engagements, not targeting computers and smart munitions. Shame there aren't many truly accurate WWII sims.
Cages to stop high explosive type rounds from hitting your tank's armour have been around for quite some time actually, although during WW2 it was more of a experimental makeshift thing rather than being army issued.
I've heard that 55mph is the top speed people are legally allowed to say about the M1 Abrams. But friends who served said they were doing 55mph in a truck and had their doors blown off by an M1 doing something like 65-70mph lol.
Really doubt that, honestly. That speed would be significantly faster than even experimental light tank designs that have been tested by the US. On a 65-70 ton M1A2? Not possible.
@@ZeroOne-mp1qeWithout the governor, maybe. At those speeds, though, you would be running a very very high chance of both seriously damaging the vehicle and seriously injuring the crew (tanks do not have seatbelts, but do have plenty of hard, sharp edges). 65-70 tons plowing down on the front torsion bar at those speeds tends to result in catastrophic failure. I actually think one of the ways they decide on a number for the governor is by seeing what speeds the tank can go over rises without injuring the crew.
Would love to see Shelby make a return in the near future! He's got that vibe to him, good energy and knowledge. With a last name like Bragg? Man was destined for a military career I tell you.
@@afriendlycadian9857 I couldn't say 100% for sure. My family are habitual to airborne focuses, tanks are entirely outside what I know. Planes and jumping though, I know that. Still enjoy the guy's presentation.
Small correction the tube on the back of the t-72 and bmp-2 weren’t snorkels they were unditching logs, if the vehicle gets stuck in mud the crew would either stick it underneath to give better traction or they could chain it to the tracks so that the vehicle could essentially claw its way out of the mud.
I love how Israel asks questions he already knows the answer to just to make sure the audience gets informed. Now we need this guy to review Gunner Heat PC
@@surfingtothestars yes but its also one less person to be rpovided with food, sleeping place etc. also if you dont count in the rare malfunction, it cannot miss. it takes the same time to load every single time
@@surfingtothestars As opposed to a human factor that also has potential to fail? I'd say there is a lot more potentional for failure with a human loader than an autoloader.
I'd love to see this guys thoughts as a former tank commander on Gunner Heat PC. Looks incredibly realistic with internal damage modeling, optics, and phrasing/commands.
Fun fact: the Israeli Merkeva 4 is designed as an all purpose armored vehicle. It serves as a main battle tank as well as a troop transport. It also has a 60mm light mortar.
Been waiting for this for a long time! Perhaps next time you have Shelby on maybe show em some more combat footage in squad with teamwork and communication being displayed in the clips you show :)
Sabot does not suck anyone in a vehicle through a hole. They are usually made of depleted Uranium and are called Sabot for short. The actual term is Armor Piercing Fin Stabalized Discarding Sabot. The sabot uses kinetic energy to punch a hole in enemy armor and hit key components of the vehicle. The friction of the sabot passing through the armor causes it to superheat and cause both mechanical damage and damage to life. The rounds used in the M1A2 I know for sure are depleted Uranium. Upon impact, they Uranium superheats, splits into several hundred/thousand shards and literally melts or burns what it touches.
Would love to see someone react to physics and other things from From The Depths! Can be a lot of fun seeing crazy designs and if they could theoretically actually work
As a former Tank mechanic in the army and someone who works for a company called General Dynamics Land System, piss bottles in the turret are the number 1 killer of tank crew.
But first, we need to complete the branches. all we need now is a sailor/navy officer. I'll be damned if gamology manages to bring in a full General/Admiral into the room.
The stolen tank story reminded of a gentleman in my home state of Virginia. Im 2018 he stole an APC from Fort Pickett and took it for a ride. He drove down Broad Street in Henrico County and even went into the city of Richmond. All together it was a 60 mile pursuit from Blacksburg to Richmond and the police had no real option other than to follow him and wait for him to give up or run out of gas. To my knowledge he didn't hurt anyone and didn't damage any property. He was a former serviceman who was under the influence. If I'm not mistaken, he's actually a free man now.
10:25 to add / correct him only 3 nations use autoloaders in there MBT's Russia( T 72,90,80,64), France (amx56 Leclerc and most light developed by them), and Japan (Type 10,90) with the difference in types of autoloaders being an carousel autoloader (meaning its like a turret basket but with ammo) being used but the Russians (and licensed Russian tanks like the chines type 69 based off of the t64) whiles the French and Japanese autoloaders use the same concept between themselves and the general idea of putting munition in the back of the turret in a bustle with blowout panels like the Abrams and Leopards for comparison. but i will have to disagree and correct him on the speed of such autoloaders the loading mechanism that takes about 7seconds would be the Russian carousel inside of there MBT's (i do not have any credibly information on how reliable the Russian autoloaders if you have any please do reply with link), whilst the French Leclerc can do a 5 to 4 second reload and the Japanese Type 10 can do 4 reliably. although jamming does not happen often it can be cleared and fixed for all 3 of them fairly fast.
The external drums on the back of the chally are storage bins for infantry equipment not fuel tanks. Maybe they used to be but they definately aren't used that way
I also think this format didn't lend itself well to his explanations. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he didn't have the time to explain anything in any detail but some of this bordered on lying by omission. He also sometimes seemed to be talking about different vehicles to the one being shown.
@@brokenglass9814 The footage always seemed behind the topic he was on as well. Like he'd mention the TOW on the Bradly and it would be like 20 seconds later before the TOW is shown.
@@Axxel-720 To be fair, working on a tank doesn't make you a tank expert. He still provided plenty of insight and information. It would be nice however if they fact checked things in the edit and maybe added a note or comment just to help avoid spreading misinformation.
@@MrEsphoenix yeah, also have to take into consideation stuff like the autoloader stuff like "they jam" or the challenger "fuel tanks that explode" and stuff like that are most likely biased because of the country of service
Bit late on this but beautiful video! I hope we get to see more of Shelby in future vids. Regarding about the tank guns like on the Canadian Leopard 2A6M. Rheinmetall (the designer for the Leopard's guns) gave NATO countries who bought their Leopards the option to mount either the 120mm L/44 or the 120mm L/55 smoothbore guns. The Canadians picked the L/44 over the L/55 as Rheinmetall explained the L/55's purpose was for tank-on-tank/anti-tank option since it's barrel is a little more longer to allow better velocity and penetration against modern tanks and armor. The L/44 I believe is universal at taking on anything. I'm still learning this but overall that's all I know. Well done though!
As for this, I forgot to mention the FV4034 Challenger 2 uses a 120mm L/55 L30A1 rifled gun which makes it the only NATO tank to use a rifled tank gun. I think this is because the British place an emphasis in preferring high explosive squash head (HESH) rounds over HEAT for long range destruction against thin skinned vehicles and buildings and they do have APFSDS rounds called Charm 3s?
As an M1A1 tank commander (Ret), the armor on the Abrams is sloped because it causes the projectile to have to travel further to get through the armor. Take a 1" cube and tilt it 45 degrees... the angle does provide a sloping effect but mainly the distance the energy from the projectile now has to travel a bit further to do it's job. The sloping effect does help but not as much as one would think with ammunition also coming in at an angle. Thanks "gravity"! This TC knows his stuff. "Side note" The engine is an AGT-1500... a 1500HP gas turbine. If memory serves, it's a similar engine to a chinook engine.
Fun trivia about the BMP: The troop-compartment doors on the rear of the vehicle were hollow- and intended to be used as auxiliary fuel-tanks. Soviet soldiers typically did one of two things with them, neither of-which involved diesel. They either filled the doors with sand to kinda-sorta make them more bullet-resistant-, or they filled them with fruit-juice and yeast and used them to make what amounted to Soviet Army Pruno.
17:53 - Having lived near the Cold Lake Airbase in Alberta Canada, I can at least confirm that they use old tanks and vehicles for bombing practice quite frequently here as well 🤣. My dad used to work there, welding up all the blown up vehicles just so they could be blown up again lol. I could also never sleep later than 6 am as they'd do daily flyovers of the little hamlet I lived in. Shook the whole house as they screamed by flying low.
I'm pretty sure all ex-East Bloc countries have those logs on their tanks. Them plus China. Invaluable tool for getting the tank unstuck from mud. I do wonder if the Polish Leopard 2PL will have those. Would be a nice touch.
Basically every Russian MBT (Main Battle Tank) uses an Autoloader. That's why there are only 3 people in a Russian tank. It has its upsides and downsides but there is a reason why they kept it even on their new generation tanks and there is a reason why neither the US nor Germany use it. When a Russian tank gets hit it likes to pop the turret of, that is because all the ammo is stored beneath the turret. Other tanks have so called blow out panels, allowing the ammo to sometimes explode and not take the whole tank with them
As a former tank gunner myself I really enjoyed this episode! The TC was very knowledgeable on his PID. I'm wondering if he was around for the tanker deck of cards. I had a tank at 62mpr. There is tanks at Stewart, Baumholder GA. , every where.
1. The challenger 2 has internal fuel cells the barrels on the back are optional. We tend use the drums for storing kit. 2. If the fuel drum is hit, it’s diesel so won’t go boom.
Would love a raw cut of this without the music. The TC talks about all the sounds heard during vehicle operation, but they get lost to the backtrack. That said... awesome content as usual :)
Israel is such a great host. He probably knows a lot of the answers to his questions, but knows what the most interesting and informative questions are for viewers 😀 On that, any chance we could see Israel and Cameron react to gameplay from Door Kickers 2: Task Force North?
@@williewilson2250 Been public knowledge that the M1 series runs on the AGT1500 since the 90s. Being a combat vehicle nut, some of the stuff he said made me cringe quite badly since its information that has been around for a long while.
@@lolman345_8 oh yeah I completely understand, especially the armor bit where he said it's supposed to "deflect" shots rather than have them hit head on with no angle. Don't think they told him sabot isn't supposed to bounce lol (unless you're talking the 82° UFP which even then barely stops modern telescopic apfsds), I just try to give anyone with military experience the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he genuinely isn't told anything too classified in order to prevent the situation I mentioned earlier, but common knowledge like the Allison transmission and the Honeywell (great fan products too haha) engine is kinda odd to not know about
i think he's talking about an armor piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot in the video, a sabot is just 2 pieces that make the round the caliber of the barrel so it can spin with the rifling, once it leaves the barrel the pieces fly off or "discard". The kinetic dart i think is specifically the fin stabilized one. Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought there were other types of sabot tank rounds too
I would really appreciate, if editors actually matched the footage host and guest are talking about. Throwing random shit won't do. As for the Armor it is a little more complicated than saying it is sloped. I mean he is right, most Armor has some sort of sloping, but the modern mbts mostly rely on composite armor, which is made out of various materials layered to stop rounds. There can be added an ERA (explosive reactive system), which mostly protects against chemical warheads and offers limited protection against kinetic rounds. But he actually mentioned APS like trophy, which are proving to be vital against some anti tank weapons.
I was just thinking this when I was watching this! Like most people that watch this probably already know that the Abrams is powered by a turbine and I dont really care about the generator or not. Like "oh cool he is driving the tank" OK COOL! But that isnt what I am HERE FOR! I want to know what is it like in the tank in more detail how does the tank work and what not not that "yeah there is a 50 cal on the top. Yeah its remote control.... yeah"
If you wanted an in depth, go watch the bovington tank museum's channel, the chieftain, etc etc. This is more meant for people who may have seen some of these vehicles in video games and want a few more details about it. Think of it more like "Tank Facts for Dummies".
to clear up, the chally 2 oil cans on the back are used for storage, not fuel, we got the idea from t72s, but then immediately thought that starpping explosive liquid to the back of your tank was a terrible idea, so they are just empty, normally personal kit or extra rations/ cam netting goes in them, the actual fuel tanks are well armoured inside the hull like the abrams. the bulldog is the brit version of the m113 platform, the warrior is the same role as the bradley.
Whats the missile system called? Leapards are my favorite modern MBTs and I never knew that, always wondered why NATO stopped using barrel fired ATGMs after the terrible shillelegh
@@lesaustion They stopped because it's expensive as hell. Especially when you can just use a cannon instead. Also, missiles can be intercepted these days.
Abrams has no Jet engine its a Gas turbine.... also modern MBT armor is not made to deflect anymore thats why Composite Armor exist to basicly just eat the enemys round
he wasnt wrong about the armor,its not necessarily to deflect but I think he was just doing laymans terms... the round tries to take the path of least resistance, which when shot at the turret of an abrams happens to be up
@@squidwardo7074 nope. modern armor is at an angle because it makes the effective thickness of the armor higher. yes some rounds deflect but the armor mostly absorbs the round fired at it
Probably the most important element in armoured warfare is the infantry, because the infantry protects the tank in urban environment while the tank protects the infantry in open environments like deserts and beaches.
@@KingSpittusFactus Right. He could specify the sabot he used has fins, or focus more on what a discarding sabot is outside of "rod with fins" . Talk about how the sabot is released upon exiting the barrel, or something like that.
@@Jedisage909 But then the enemy team fires their assault rifles at your tank and you blow up. Never quite understood why they made tanks so weak in Halo.
At 7:20 I'd like to know what he meant when the armor on an Abrams is angled to deflect shots, because it's my understanding that Sabot has greater penetration performance at high angles. Armor on an Abrams is also made of light composite materials on its front, to both the hull and turret, to absorb either the jet of a shaped charge or the core of a Sabot.
its angled because a round will try to take the path of least resistance, which on the turret for example is up, he wasn't necessarily wrong but I think he was just using laymans terms
@@squidwardo7074 I kinda get he'd say that just to cut down on time, but it really doesn't tell the viewer how MBT armor works in the most basic of sense. Instead of "Armor is sloped", it could have been "Armor and material is sandwiched together".
The Ukraine war has shown that Russian vehicles aren't only really old, they're pretty much worthless against any modern arms. and the bolt on armor pieces does jack shit against modern missiles too
@@kamraam1464 "Regular" armor is effective against any type of round. Tandem is specifically designed to deal with ERA. The problem for both composite armor and ERA is not that the armor is ineffective, its that modern ATGMs do not hit armored parts of the tank. Javelins have direct top-attack mode, so they hit the roof of the tank which does not have a lot of armor.
@@johanlassen6448 Russian tank designers have attempted to combat top attack by placing ERA on the roofs of their tanks. Obviously there's only so much you can cover with the existence of panoramic sights, roof MGs, etc. But I would assume it helps somewhat.
@@sciarpecyril Some modern ERA is effective against kinetic projectiles as well, like relikt and kontakt 5 which can snap tungsten or aluminum penetrators (supposedly harder time with DU penitrators).
@@sotilaskarkuri Have you seen the footage? You have tanks wandering around alone without any support or they're just in a single row getting their asses handed to them .... and no javelin won't destroy every tank, there are measures against it, they're just a little rare
@@codemy666 yes i know there are APS that work but most of them are still protos. also the reason of the lone tanks wandering around is due to putins and his goons really bad plan that neglects everything.
I've noticed the Marine Corps is really interactive with video game-esk channel. I would love to see what the marine corps give there piece of a video like this.
The most important thing about tracks is that they spread the weight out. If you rolled a tank along on tires they would break roads and sink into the ground. It's like how snow shoes let you walk on the snow.
Imagine if all military experts that came on gameology played SQUAD as per their roles.
will be the best crossover since infinity war
The Abrams loader just sitting in the corner watching them play lmao
@@codemy666 Abrams loader will be stuck on the open top LMG
@@qualitigma7440 But he can't reload the gun which is his main purpose
I mean the us military had a video game simulator to attract gamers to enlist. No doubt that squad would be a great simulator.
Gamology has reactors from different branches of the military they should get them all together in one video
Yeah I also want that, FULL FORCE hehehe
That would be so cool
I would love to see the shit talking theyll throw at eachother
What about different nations that would be cool if they would all sit together and talk about their experience
Yeah all 4 of them would be fun
Finally! I want to see them react to BF3's "Thunder Run" Mission!
This is my favorite mission in BF3
I was just saying that too 😂
Could have sworn they did that like a few years ago btlut would be awesome with the new crew to talk about it
@@litvium favorite mission in all of battlefield
MAKE THIS RECOGNIZABLE
To speak of the durability of some tanks. In the Iraq war there was an instance where a Challenger 2 had thrown a track and was stuck under fire for 24 hours before reinforcments with a recovery vehicle could arrive. During that time it sustained 279 hits with various infantry anti tank weapons (RPG-7s etc.) when reinforcments arrived the track was replaced and it drove home.
Das pretty frickin cool, scary but still cool
British Engineering
@@a05odst62 brits are always getting stuck in tanks that the enemy cant kill. You ever heard of "fray bentos"? The crew held out for I think 3 days before making it back to friendly lines.
dumb LAT (light antitank) players
@@snugglecity3500if I remember, the Germans didn't have/was limited on AT weapons. So they simply thought that it was not worth the resources, they tried to capture/destroy it with rifles instead. But that was from what I remember
Don't be fooled by the "jet" engine on the Abrams. It's not like a loud jet plane shooting out thousands of pounds of thrust to push the tank along. He actually *almost* touched on it at 16:23 when he says it sounds like a jet turbine like on a helicopter. That's what it is. It's a turbine, or more specifically a turboshaft. This is basically a mini jet engine, but instead of using its thrust to push the vehicle, the thrust produced is used to turn a driveshaft which of course ends up making the tank move forward. The "jet" engines on helicopters work this same way. They create power, and that power is used to help turn the propellers. He also mentioned the generator on the Abrams at 1:15. This generator is actually an auxiliary power unit, or APU, which many airplanes also have. At idle power, the turbine doesn't produce enough power to run every system in the vehicle, so they have what is essentially a separate generator that they can run so that they can have lights and other electrical stuff without running the engine. I'm an aviation nut so I had to nerd out when he kept mentioning his jet powered tank lol
Your insight is much appreciated!
Also, noise coming from gas turbine engine is in high frequency range so few meters behind the tank where the exhaust is located it will be louder than standard diesel engine, but with distance high frequency noise dissipates faster, meaning if you hear the Abrams it's already to late.
The Turbine engine also produces more torque at low RPMs when compared to a diesel motor but it consumes slightly more fuel. The systems in the tank can be run at idle but it is just more fuel efficient to use the APU, hence why they have them.
The generator in the tank is loud af and constant.
I was surprised just how stealthy an Abrams actually is. Their sound doesn't really carry that far. On the other hand, our piece of shit Bradleys I could hear coming for a half hour before I got visual contact on them up on an OP as OPFOR in training
I really love when you guys are reviewing Squad - its just an amazing game
except when there a 6 year old child soldiers running around quoting mickey mouse
@@spectral5734 1000s of hours luckily never ran into any kids on squad lol too busy on fortnite
@@spectral5734 I've never heard a child in Squad before. Ever. Over 1100 hours in-game.
@@awesome9174 Dang really? Huh I'm 14 and I play squad and arma 3 I guess I'm different from a lot of gen z then😁
I’m 12 and I play squad, my voice is squeaky so I barely use mic, should I use my mic or nah?
Would really like to see this guy react to more “combat footage” as opposed to just the vehicles itself on the training range, perhaps across different games aswell!
Yes please! They're missing all the communication which is key in Squad
Well both of them are fakes soooo
@@tc311bangbang3 what the hell does that even mean
@@tc311bangbang3 are u accusing them of not serving lmao
@@tc311bangbang3 your proof?
I’d love to see this man react to the BF1 “through mud and blood” campaign. See his reactions to being inside a British MKVI tank. And how it compares to today. Could be sweet.
12:13
Correction, slat armor is meant to prevent detonation of warheads with piezoelectric fuses by crumbling them before the current reaches the base fuse.
I'm hoping to see Shelby on the channel more often.
I see channels like this a lot and it's usually bots copying other channels' comments and this is really annoying.
@@MikhaylovComrade Don't interact with their comments, just report them
They got a fort named after him
@@MikhaylovComrade as long as the channel has good content it doesn't really bother me. Easy enough to ignore the comments on an entertaining video.
The challenger actually has better range with internal fuel than the Abrams. Those drums on the back of the challenger can be swapped out for storage bins, but yes, can carry fuel if they need to extend the range more. It's worth noting though that diesel, which most tanks these days use, won't explode, and is actually placed strategically as another layer of protection by most nations.
I don't wanna correct Shelby here but Honeywell makes the engine. My father was one of the designers of it for allied signal now Honeywell. The turban itself is the agt1500 pared to an Allison DDA X-1100-3B. I'm glad he drove tanks and I respect him for it but I don't expect him to know all the names and companies involved in the creation of the abrams.
That did take me by surprise, I went to go see when that change had happened. It’s a thing though, being an operator. I myself am a pilot, but unlike the mechanics beyond knowing it’s a continental H-4, there’s not much more I know about the bits and pieces of the plane.
False, I own Rolls Royce and we make the engines for the Abrams
@@SoFresh13579 what’s the model name of the engine?
@@SoFresh13579 yeah ok sure and smoking crack is good for you. What I know is a fact and what you just said is steaigh up lie.
@@trogo24 I mean, it should be pretty obvious when someone posts a comment like that, they're joking.
ERRORS:
- T72 has an autoloader system (He mentions "some tanks have autoloaders" in other context though).
- Canadian Leo tank is a German produced tank.
- Both the Abrams series and the Leo series use the same guns (105mm and later 120mm).
- Reactive armor is similar to a cage. It can defeat HEAT type shells. The difference is that you would need tandem reactive armor to defeat a tandem HEAT. So one can maybe argue cages are simpler and better tbh (math guy with weight calculation vs power to weight ratio prove me wrong. :D ).
- Sabots, with enough kinetic energy at the point of engagement, will defeat reactive armor.
- Sabot is a rod with fins, but the name sabot comes from the "form holder" around the rod that makes sure the rod is guided correctly through the barrel and in turn fall off when the rod exits the barrel.
- T72 uses missiles because the gun is of lower quality and therefor does not have the engagement range of Western tanks. T14 Armata can do so as well, but I would assume it is a legacy feature rather than a need on that gun in context of Western current day 120mm.
- Both the Leo and the T72 can use snorkels, but that is not what the logs are for. The logs is used to unstuck a vehicle. If it gets really stuck however it will still need a rescue vehicle. Its just that on the steps of Europe. There often isnt allot of trees. Therefor bring a log. Western tanks dont have such because their NATO doctrine was always defensive. Logs is more a "pushing forward" tool.
- Tanks have tracks to to disperse the weight of the vehicle over the whole area of the tracks rather than the wheel contact points with the ground. There is no problem having a "wheeled tank". South Africa and Franc etc have had them, but as soon as you put more armor on. The risk of getting stuck with wheeled increases, then you have the context of terrain, engine power in hilly nations etc. Tanks are custom fit in regards to the nation that orders them and that is often why the same version of tank might have N or other letters at the back of the name. It has some custom change to it.
Somebody played too much War Thunder
War Thunder players are an underrated blessing. A surprise, but a welcome one 💀💀💀
Error with what you said.
The soviet/Russian tanks do not use missiles because their guns are of a poorer quality and don't have the same engagement distance as western tanks. That's wrong, their guns are of the same quality and usually longer meaning higher velocities and their APFSDS shells are also on par and with the new Vacuum 1 shells even better.
The reason for the missile is for firing at fast moving targets and at helicopters due to the Russians not having smart detonated high explosive shells like the western tanks do. Instead of the Russian high explosive shells detonating in proximity to a helicopter to deal damage, they use the missile in order to guide it onto target, along with how I mentioned before, guiding it onto quickly moving vehicles that are maneuvering instead of moving in one direction to maximise chances of hitting.
Also, for ERA (Explosive reactive armor) it is better than cage armor as it is not that much heavier, and can affect both tandem HEAT and APFSDS shells, it's only the very early ERA such as kontakt-1 that can only protect against single stage HEAT, but more modern ERA such as Kontakt-5 (still regarded as the worse modern ERA) can counter tandem HEAT and can reduce the penetrating power of modern APFSDS projectiles and outright destroy older ones. Also cage armor is a very cheap alternative to era, it has gaps that can be hit by the missile instead of the cage, and once a portion gets hit the cage bends and buckles from the blast exposing a larger area for a second hit, while with ERA usually only one to three blocks are affected.
@@skparadise3382even relikt wont stop modern tandem missiles.
@@fennoman9241 Yes it can because instead of being a regular type of ERA that just moves a plate in front of the shell or HEAT jet to slow it down, Relikt does that and also has shaped charges of its own inside it which move in sequence, with the channels closest to the one damaged detonating first, that delay means that Relikt does have a good chance at stopping modern tandem ERA. Maybe it won't stop it 100% of the time but nothing will.
Great episode. Having someone who's very knowledgeable in a different combat MOS and explaining it is great. Even having people who operated Bradley's would be cool. Or maybe 13b's? I dunno just my thoughts. Mortar men. Fistas, Gun bunnies. There's also good stories and knowledge.
Why not 11b? Alot of infantry units use Bradley's and would have knowledge.
We’re the only ones that use them, I was an 11b in a tank battalion I think it be cool to come on something like this and explain shit especially when they showed the Bradley he tried his best but just glossed over stuff
If they could get the chieftain on this show, I would be amazed
I suggested the same thing. All of a sudden he goes into track tensioning. LOL
No reason imo
Ooh, that'll be cool
That would be awesome! ^^ he would then go "Oh my god, the tank is om fire" xD
@@FlyingEndeavor Ah yes "Oh Bugger the tank is on fire can I get out. Sometimes it would be better to just shoot yourself with how some tanks were designed. they are nightmares to get into let alone out of.
I think WWII technology was the most interesting period in military history. The weapons were devastating and tanks and submarines were reliable enough to be fielded in large numbers, yet it was the skill of the crew and the individual that won engagements, not targeting computers and smart munitions. Shame there aren't many truly accurate WWII sims.
Hell let loose
Post scriptum is probably the most realistic in terms of military simulation in ww2 armor, ballistics, roles, etc
Cages to stop high explosive type rounds from hitting your tank's armour have been around for quite some time actually, although during WW2 it was more of a experimental makeshift thing rather than being army issued.
I've heard that 55mph is the top speed people are legally allowed to say about the M1 Abrams. But friends who served said they were doing 55mph in a truck and had their doors blown off by an M1 doing something like 65-70mph lol.
50 is the standart top speed on the field, 70 is the clean configuration top speed. no ammo, no full tank of fuel
Really doubt that, honestly. That speed would be significantly faster than even experimental light tank designs that have been tested by the US. On a 65-70 ton M1A2? Not possible.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 without the speed governor, probably. would never know for sure as the top speed is classified.
@@ZeroOne-mp1qeWithout the governor, maybe. At those speeds, though, you would be running a very very high chance of both seriously damaging the vehicle and seriously injuring the crew (tanks do not have seatbelts, but do have plenty of hard, sharp edges). 65-70 tons plowing down on the front torsion bar at those speeds tends to result in catastrophic failure.
I actually think one of the ways they decide on a number for the governor is by seeing what speeds the tank can go over rises without injuring the crew.
@@ZeroOne-mp1qe it's like a 5mph increase
Would love to see Shelby make a return in the near future! He's got that vibe to him, good energy and knowledge.
With a last name like Bragg? Man was destined for a military career I tell you.
I thought the same thing lol.
Really from what I have seen many comments are saying saying he got alot wrong and were correcting him
@@afriendlycadian9857 I couldn't say 100% for sure. My family are habitual to airborne focuses, tanks are entirely outside what I know. Planes and jumping though, I know that. Still enjoy the guy's presentation.
Small correction the tube on the back of the t-72 and bmp-2 weren’t snorkels they were unditching logs, if the vehicle gets stuck in mud the crew would either stick it underneath to give better traction or they could chain it to the tracks so that the vehicle could essentially claw its way out of the mud.
Tank Commander Shelby Bragg is super cool and super laid back, respect! He should get his own episodes reviewing tanks from other games!
I love how Israel asks questions he already knows the answer to just to make sure the audience gets informed. Now we need this guy to review Gunner Heat PC
“Autoloaders reload in 7-12 seconds”
Hstvl: am i a joke to you?
Japanese Type 90 with 4 sec reload : "Really?"
French Leclerc with 6-5sec reload : "Honestly, i'm done."
yeah back in mid-late cold war it was that much, now a days its 4-6,5 seconds mostly
@@sotilaskarkuri another issue is it’s one more mechanism that has a potential to malfunction
@@surfingtothestars yes but its also one less person to be rpovided with food, sleeping place etc. also if you dont count in the rare malfunction, it cannot miss. it takes the same time to load every single time
@@surfingtothestars As opposed to a human factor that also has potential to fail? I'd say there is a lot more potentional for failure with a human loader than an autoloader.
"try to move 65 tons on tires, that's a special tire" had me ded rolling on the floor lol.
I'd love to see this guys thoughts as a former tank commander on Gunner Heat PC. Looks incredibly realistic with internal damage modeling, optics, and phrasing/commands.
Fun fact: the Israeli Merkeva 4 is designed as an all purpose armored vehicle. It serves as a main battle tank as well as a troop transport. It also has a 60mm light mortar.
Been waiting for this for a long time! Perhaps next time you have Shelby on maybe show em some more combat footage in squad with teamwork and communication being displayed in the clips you show :)
Sabot does not suck anyone in a vehicle through a hole. They are usually made of depleted Uranium and are called Sabot for short. The actual term is Armor Piercing Fin Stabalized Discarding Sabot. The sabot uses kinetic energy to punch a hole in enemy armor and hit key components of the vehicle. The friction of the sabot passing through the armor causes it to superheat and cause both mechanical damage and damage to life. The rounds used in the M1A2 I know for sure are depleted Uranium. Upon impact, they Uranium superheats, splits into several hundred/thousand shards and literally melts or burns what it touches.
Now we need him to see World of Tanks
I was the one who suggested that lol
Stayed tuned!!! (also for War Thunder)
@@MyHappySelf Wow Israel! Thank you for giving us the info!
Would love to see someone react to physics and other things from From The Depths! Can be a lot of fun seeing crazy designs and if they could theoretically actually work
As a former Tank mechanic in the army and someone who works for a company called General Dynamics Land System, piss bottles in the turret are the number 1 killer of tank crew.
That's why russia put litteral toilets in their Armata lmao
He'd be great at reviewing ARMA 3's Near-Future take on tank designs
They're pretty much all real tanks, with some very slight differences. You see Merkavas, Leopard 2s, Armata, M8AGS, etc.
can we have all the vets in gamology be in a game of squad.
But first, we need to complete the branches. all we need now is a sailor/navy officer.
I'll be damned if gamology manages to bring in a full General/Admiral into the room.
@@renzluigiaquino7608 do they really have any games covering naval warfare. I suppose world of warships.
@@meechtree5795 Pretty much just world of warships or war thunder. There're a lot more lesser known ones but I doubt anyone would care about those.
Please keep him on yours shows longer!
we did 4 total with him! 3 to go.
Hope we see more of Shelby on the channel
The stolen tank story reminded of a gentleman in my home state of Virginia. Im 2018 he stole an APC from Fort Pickett and took it for a ride. He drove down Broad Street in Henrico County and even went into the city of Richmond. All together it was a 60 mile pursuit from Blacksburg to Richmond and the police had no real option other than to follow him and wait for him to give up or run out of gas.
To my knowledge he didn't hurt anyone and didn't damage any property. He was a former serviceman who was under the influence. If I'm not mistaken, he's actually a free man now.
10:25 to add / correct him only 3 nations use autoloaders in there MBT's Russia( T 72,90,80,64), France (amx56 Leclerc and most light developed by them), and Japan (Type 10,90) with the difference in types of autoloaders being an carousel autoloader (meaning its like a turret basket but with ammo) being used but the Russians (and licensed Russian tanks like the chines type 69 based off of the t64) whiles the French and Japanese autoloaders use the same concept between themselves and the general idea of putting munition in the back of the turret in a bustle with blowout panels like the Abrams and Leopards for comparison. but i will have to disagree and correct him on the speed of such autoloaders the loading mechanism that takes about 7seconds would be the Russian carousel inside of there MBT's (i do not have any credibly information on how reliable the Russian autoloaders if you have any please do reply with link), whilst the French Leclerc can do a 5 to 4 second reload and the Japanese Type 10 can do 4 reliably. although jamming does not happen often it can be cleared and fixed for all 3 of them fairly fast.
The external drums on the back of the chally are storage bins for infantry equipment not fuel tanks. Maybe they used to be but they definately aren't used that way
you should interview a tank mechanic. He knows more.
I also think this format didn't lend itself well to his explanations. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he didn't have the time to explain anything in any detail but some of this bordered on lying by omission. He also sometimes seemed to be talking about different vehicles to the one being shown.
@@brokenglass9814 The footage always seemed behind the topic he was on as well. Like he'd mention the TOW on the Bradly and it would be like 20 seconds later before the TOW is shown.
This series is so cool. Nice to see the guys who actually work with these weapons systems providing commentary.
It would be real great if their information was correct.
Just to throw it out there, the challenger 2 “fuel cans” on the back don’t actually carry fuel it usually carry’s kit of the crew
and/or water lol
And even when they do use them as fuel tanks, they carry diesel which won't explode or ignite if hit.
@@MrEsphoenix yep, this guy got everything wrong
@@Axxel-720 To be fair, working on a tank doesn't make you a tank expert. He still provided plenty of insight and information. It would be nice however if they fact checked things in the edit and maybe added a note or comment just to help avoid spreading misinformation.
@@MrEsphoenix yeah, also have to take into consideation stuff like the autoloader stuff like "they jam" or the challenger "fuel tanks that explode" and stuff like that are most likely biased because of the country of service
Finally, they finally have the tank commander reacts. I hope they make more!
Well Shelby should now play il2 sturmovik with the tank Commander mod on extra difficulty
Bit late on this but beautiful video! I hope we get to see more of Shelby in future vids. Regarding about the tank guns like on the Canadian Leopard 2A6M. Rheinmetall (the designer for the Leopard's guns) gave NATO countries who bought their Leopards the option to mount either the 120mm L/44 or the 120mm L/55 smoothbore guns. The Canadians picked the L/44 over the L/55 as Rheinmetall explained the L/55's purpose was for tank-on-tank/anti-tank option since it's barrel is a little more longer to allow better velocity and penetration against modern tanks and armor. The L/44 I believe is universal at taking on anything. I'm still learning this but overall that's all I know. Well done though!
As for this, I forgot to mention the FV4034 Challenger 2 uses a 120mm L/55 L30A1 rifled gun which makes it the only NATO tank to use a rifled tank gun. I think this is because the British place an emphasis in preferring high explosive squash head (HESH) rounds over HEAT for long range destruction against thin skinned vehicles and buildings and they do have APFSDS rounds called Charm 3s?
As an M1A1 tank commander (Ret), the armor on the Abrams is sloped because it causes the projectile to have to travel further to get through the armor. Take a 1" cube and tilt it 45 degrees... the angle does provide a sloping effect but mainly the distance the energy from the projectile now has to travel a bit further to do it's job. The sloping effect does help but not as much as one would think with ammunition also coming in at an angle. Thanks "gravity"! This TC knows his stuff. "Side note" The engine is an AGT-1500... a 1500HP gas turbine. If memory serves, it's a similar engine to a chinook engine.
AGT1500 is correct, made by Honeywell not Rolls Royce. from a current serving M1A1 TC
Fun trivia about the BMP: The troop-compartment doors on the rear of the vehicle were hollow- and intended to be used as auxiliary fuel-tanks. Soviet soldiers typically did one of two things with them, neither of-which involved diesel. They either filled the doors with sand to kinda-sorta make them more bullet-resistant-, or they filled them with fruit-juice and yeast and used them to make what amounted to Soviet Army Pruno.
Shelby is really cool I hope we see more of him.
Great job of explaining Bragg….you were an ok driver! Great show!!!
There is no loader in a T72, it's an auto loader. The tank only has 3 crew members, commander, gunner, driver.
That’s what he said lol
He said it has an autoloader
Loader, Auto Loader. Anyways, he was talking about the sound (which the autoloader does)
@@mcdabbin9360 no he said "we can hear the loader"
@@lafaucheuse2001 we can hear the (auto) loader. Do you not speak English as a first language?
17:53 - Having lived near the Cold Lake Airbase in Alberta Canada, I can at least confirm that they use old tanks and vehicles for bombing practice quite frequently here as well 🤣.
My dad used to work there, welding up all the blown up vehicles just so they could be blown up again lol.
I could also never sleep later than 6 am as they'd do daily flyovers of the little hamlet I lived in. Shook the whole house as they screamed by flying low.
Those cylinders on the back are not snorkels, they are logs, that are used in "logging" to get the tank unstuck. All RUS tankers do that in training.
I'm pretty sure all ex-East Bloc countries have those logs on their tanks. Them plus China. Invaluable tool for getting the tank unstuck from mud.
I do wonder if the Polish Leopard 2PL will have those. Would be a nice touch.
@@pirig-gal More so, all Soviet tank designs. Old PRC tanks, were redesigns of Soviet MBTs
But get stuck anyway as soon as there is a real conflict.
@@pirig-gal Didn't poland already buy an Abrams?
@@codemy666 Not yet. They're talking about it.
Another new guest I like. Damn tank commander what a badass. Need more of him. Of course gotta have izzy
Basically every Russian MBT (Main Battle Tank) uses an Autoloader. That's why there are only 3 people in a Russian tank. It has its upsides and downsides but there is a reason why they kept it even on their new generation tanks and there is a reason why neither the US nor Germany use it. When a Russian tank gets hit it likes to pop the turret of, that is because all the ammo is stored beneath the turret. Other tanks have so called blow out panels, allowing the ammo to sometimes explode and not take the whole tank with them
As a former tank gunner myself I really enjoyed this episode! The TC was very knowledgeable on his PID. I'm wondering if he was around for the tanker deck of cards. I had a tank at 62mpr. There is tanks at Stewart, Baumholder GA. , every where.
What a cool tank commander want to be a part of his tank Squad 😂
I love using tanks in games. I wanted to be a tank crewmen after highschool but I have partial blindness. Thank you for this video.
You can be a loader? Or does it need to have perfect vision too?
“You’ve done all the positions in the tank?” Missed opportunity right there lol
I love how he’s explaining the map and everything while in the footage the tank gets blown up
I LIKE THIS GUY HE'S COOL ASF
1. The challenger 2 has internal fuel cells the barrels on the back are optional. We tend use the drums for storing kit. 2. If the fuel drum is hit, it’s diesel so won’t go boom.
Would love a raw cut of this without the music. The TC talks about all the sounds heard during vehicle operation, but they get lost to the backtrack. That said... awesome content as usual :)
Israel is such a great host. He probably knows a lot of the answers to his questions, but knows what the most interesting and informative questions are for viewers 😀
On that, any chance we could see Israel and Cameron react to gameplay from Door Kickers 2: Task Force North?
You guys should bring the_chieftain. It would be cool for having 2 tank commanders and Israel Wright talking and comparing tanks from games together
That small sheet of Plexi is doing God's work against the Coofer. Great Virtue Signal.
The Abrams is powered by a Honeywell engine not a Rolls Royce
Yeah I caught that too, not sure where he heard that...
@@kamraam1464 maybe he'd rather not tell the truth and do what a certain someone did a while back with the challenger 2
@@williewilson2250 Been public knowledge that the M1 series runs on the AGT1500 since the 90s. Being a combat vehicle nut, some of the stuff he said made me cringe quite badly since its information that has been around for a long while.
@@lolman345_8 oh yeah I completely understand, especially the armor bit where he said it's supposed to "deflect" shots rather than have them hit head on with no angle. Don't think they told him sabot isn't supposed to bounce lol (unless you're talking the 82° UFP which even then barely stops modern telescopic apfsds), I just try to give anyone with military experience the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he genuinely isn't told anything too classified in order to prevent the situation I mentioned earlier, but common knowledge like the Allison transmission and the Honeywell (great fan products too haha) engine is kinda odd to not know about
@@lolman345_8 Well, it does say "Former Tank Commander" so maybe its been awhile
i think he's talking about an armor piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot in the video, a sabot is just 2 pieces that make the round the caliber of the barrel so it can spin with the rifling, once it leaves the barrel the pieces fly off or "discard". The kinetic dart i think is specifically the fin stabilized one. Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought there were other types of sabot tank rounds too
I like how they make it relate to current events in LOWKEY mode.
Love seeing the different jobs popping up here !
The tank commander should react to Gunner Heat PC next!
The things on the back of russian vehicles are actually wooden logs used to get track vehicles out of thick mud and sand.
I would really appreciate, if editors actually matched the footage host and guest are talking about. Throwing random shit won't do. As for the Armor it is a little more complicated than saying it is sloped. I mean he is right, most Armor has some sort of sloping, but the modern mbts mostly rely on composite armor, which is made out of various materials layered to stop rounds. There can be added an ERA (explosive reactive system), which mostly protects against chemical warheads and offers limited protection against kinetic rounds. But he actually mentioned APS like trophy, which are proving to be vital against some anti tank weapons.
I was just thinking this when I was watching this! Like most people that watch this probably already know that the Abrams is powered by a turbine and I dont really care about the generator or not. Like "oh cool he is driving the tank" OK COOL! But that isnt what I am HERE FOR! I want to know what is it like in the tank in more detail how does the tank work and what not not that "yeah there is a 50 cal on the top. Yeah its remote control.... yeah"
If you wanted an in depth, go watch the bovington tank museum's channel, the chieftain, etc etc. This is more meant for people who may have seen some of these vehicles in video games and want a few more details about it. Think of it more like "Tank Facts for Dummies".
to clear up, the chally 2 oil cans on the back are used for storage, not fuel, we got the idea from t72s, but then immediately thought that starpping explosive liquid to the back of your tank was a terrible idea, so they are just empty, normally personal kit or extra rations/ cam netting goes in them, the actual fuel tanks are well armoured inside the hull like the abrams.
the bulldog is the brit version of the m113 platform,
the warrior is the same role as the bradley.
The Leopard 2A5 and 2A7 also got the option of Anti Tank Guided Missles through the gun barrel like the T72 just a small note.
Whats the missile system called? Leapards are my favorite modern MBTs and I never knew that, always wondered why NATO stopped using barrel fired ATGMs after the terrible shillelegh
@@lesaustion They stopped because it's expensive as hell. Especially when you can just use a cannon instead. Also, missiles can be intercepted these days.
No they don't
Do you have a source on Leopards being able to fire ATGMs? I've never heard of that. Unless you're talking about APS hard kill systems
@@KingSpittusFactus They've been tested with the LAHAT
I was just searching about real tank crews reacts to mil-sim game and i just found this video thanks for making those, cheers
Highly recommend a tankers reaction to "Gunner HEAT PC" (GHPC(
1:20
BMW engine in the tank? It just keeps getting better!
Abrams has no Jet engine its a Gas turbine.... also modern MBT armor is not made to deflect anymore thats why Composite Armor exist to basicly just eat the enemys round
he wasnt wrong about the armor,its not necessarily to deflect but I think he was just doing laymans terms... the round tries to take the path of least resistance, which when shot at the turret of an abrams happens to be up
@@squidwardo7074 nope. modern armor is at an angle because it makes the effective thickness of the armor higher. yes some rounds deflect but the armor mostly absorbs the round fired at it
Probably the most important element in armoured warfare is the infantry, because the infantry protects the tank in urban environment while the tank protects the infantry in open environments like deserts and beaches.
I want to see his reaction to War Thunder's top tier tank battles
War Thunder nails armor and module-based damage. Squad nails multi crew gameplay.
I wish a game had both.
Red Orchestra 2 next please. The tank gameplay in that is underrated.
Sabot does not mean it has fins. The rounds that have fins specifically call that out using fin stabilized in their name.
There is no fin less sabot anymore since apds doesn't really exist anymore
@@KingSpittusFactus Still, misuse of the word sabot.
@@crusaderwm60-e48 but no TC says load Sabot with fins.. They just say load sabot or just Gunner Sabot Tank
@@KingSpittusFactus Right. He could specify the sabot he used has fins, or focus more on what a discarding sabot is outside of "rod with fins" . Talk about how the sabot is released upon exiting the barrel, or something like that.
A tanker trying to explain the Bradley grinds my gears 😂
Another banger
Thanks bro for showing the gamers what real Tanking is like,from an old tanker...
TANK BEATS EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!
Not really but they are really cool
@@afonso7946 I was making a halo reference
@@Jedisage909 Ah ok
@@Jedisage909 But then the enemy team fires their assault rifles at your tank and you blow up. Never quite understood why they made tanks so weak in Halo.
@@Jedisage909 Scarab drops in: not anymore.
At 7:20 I'd like to know what he meant when the armor on an Abrams is angled to deflect shots, because it's my understanding that Sabot has greater penetration performance at high angles. Armor on an Abrams is also made of light composite materials on its front, to both the hull and turret, to absorb either the jet of a shaped charge or the core of a Sabot.
The sloping does a little bit to deflect shells but the main feature of modern armor is the layering of materials.
@@daltonstoner6711 Ye
its angled because a round will try to take the path of least resistance, which on the turret for example is up, he wasn't necessarily wrong but I think he was just using laymans terms
@@squidwardo7074 I kinda get he'd say that just to cut down on time, but it really doesn't tell the viewer how MBT armor works in the most basic of sense. Instead of "Armor is sloped", it could have been "Armor and material is sandwiched together".
The Ukraine war has shown that Russian vehicles aren't only really old, they're pretty much worthless against any modern arms. and the bolt on armor pieces does jack shit against modern missiles too
ERA is highly effective against non-tandem HEAT missiles or grenades.
@@sciarpecyril Dude regular armor is effective against non-tandem rounds. The whole point of ERA is to defeat anti-tank rounds.
@@kamraam1464 "Regular" armor is effective against any type of round. Tandem is specifically designed to deal with ERA.
The problem for both composite armor and ERA is not that the armor is ineffective, its that modern ATGMs do not hit armored parts of the tank. Javelins have direct top-attack mode, so they hit the roof of the tank which does not have a lot of armor.
@@johanlassen6448 Russian tank designers have attempted to combat top attack by placing ERA on the roofs of their tanks. Obviously there's only so much you can cover with the existence of panoramic sights, roof MGs, etc. But I would assume it helps somewhat.
@@sciarpecyril Some modern ERA is effective against kinetic projectiles as well, like relikt and kontakt 5 which can snap tungsten or aluminum penetrators (supposedly harder time with DU penitrators).
Nothing like a man that knows his weapon system. Even better is a guy named after his base, presumably.
I'd be really curious for his reaction on Ukrainian combat against Russian tanks...but that's not what this channel is for.
;)
What can he say, ukrainians have javelins and russians don't know how tanks work
@@codemy666 how come they dont know how tanks work? javelin is made to destroy tanks, no matter what tank you have javelin is going to destroy it.
@@sotilaskarkuri Have you seen the footage? You have tanks wandering around alone without any support or they're just in a single row getting their asses handed to them .... and no javelin won't destroy every tank, there are measures against it, they're just a little rare
@@codemy666 yes i know there are APS that work but most of them are still protos. also the reason of the lone tanks wandering around is due to putins and his goons really bad plan that neglects everything.
Awesome episode! Hope to see Israel and Shelby do another one! Maybe talk about the tanks in other games
His technical knowledge is a bit questionable, Chieftain is better for that but otherwise this dude is cool
OK keyboard expert.
Honestly i didn't think i would enjoy it as much as i did. The TC was super cool and i watched the whole thing and never got bored super cool
Well originaly 2A6 is German not Canadian
Yes but the M series of Leopard 2s are Canadian
I've been waiting for this day 👏👏🥳
You two should react to fury. Would love to see you two breakdown the tank fights
This is Gamology, if you want expert react on movie maybe you can check Insider YT channel
I was a Bradley comander!! The Bradley sight is the day sight. We rarely use the day sight.
He needs to react to War Thunder
I've noticed the Marine Corps is really interactive with video game-esk channel. I would love to see what the marine corps give there piece of a video like this.
Maybe review Arma3 or War Thunder next time.
The most important thing about tracks is that they spread the weight out. If you rolled a tank along on tires they would break roads and sink into the ground. It's like how snow shoes let you walk on the snow.