How y'all gonna spend 4 seconds skimming over the Roci power slide past the UNN ship scene? That's one of my faves. When Holden's in the gunner's seat jabbing away at his screen "... that's why we're gonna have to do this." And gives a little *swip* move over to Alex's screen. Alex: "shit, Cap. You sure?" Holden: "we picked this fight. We're punching above our weight. If you've got a better idea, now's the time." And the whole maneuver is awesomely laid out. The shots go through space: the Roci, the Razorback, the UNN ship. Man! Good visuals! And I'd like to spend a moment to mention how Naomi in a spacesuit is awesome. IDK why. Dominique kills it with the dialogue when she's in the helmet.
A big point of why Tora Tora Tora was legendary was the fact Iconic director, Akira Kurosawa, worked on the movie too (Seven Samurai, Ran etc). Much respect for the foresight to involve a Japanese director for the Japanese point of view.
Unfortunately, Kurosawa's tendency towards perfectionism caused him to be removed by the producers from directing the Japanese half of the film, but thankfully, his work on the script did not go to waste.
Words cannot express how much I live this show, Midnight and Sexy Pants. When Wes started dropping Chet quotes from Weird Science - again, I was howling with laughter.
That scene where Amos told Prax not to give up on finding Mei, makes me wonder Terry Chen's perspective. I really wish they had him on this show at last once to share his point of view. It is interesting for me now that Terry Chen is a father too. Awesome writing, acting, and over all show!
In re Top Gun, I was in my first class (Senior) year at USNA when it came out, just after 1st Class Cruise on Ticonderoga escorting Kitty Hawk and thus was able to cross deck onto the Kitty Hawk including time with the shooters (Catpult Crew) and Flags (LSO) on the flight deck for flight operations. So I'm in the theater watching the movie with my mother. She was white knuckling her seat on the flight deck operations. I said words to the effect of "no big deal, I was doing that last month." Fortunately she did not stroke out on the spot...
Space: Above and Beyond had a similar episode (the BSG one looks like a ripoff of it, honestly), a new type of enemy fighter, and a lone earth Hammerhead battling it out. "Abandon all hope".
Guys, Lisa was a genie. The whole computer-meets-Barbie thing is just a big early '80s stand-in for rubbing a magic lamp. Once you lock that in, everything else - the powers, the granting of wishes, the sense that she's moving on to somebody else once Gary and Wyatt have what they really wanted - just falls right into place.
The dogfight between the DC-3 and Aermacchi in Quantum of Solace is actually very good. I like the realism of actually hearing them talking through their headsets. The DC-3 is not a quiet plane so there would be no casual conversation without them.
The best bit where the power goes out at the wrong time is in Aliens right? "How could they cut the power?! They're animals man!" Man, Bill Paxton gets all the best lines in that movie. I'm just gonna sit and think about Bill Paxton Aliens lines for the rest of the afternoon.
Glad Final Countdown got a mention, it actually has better dog fight chops than Top Gun 😄 But Dunkirk deserved a mention as well for the dog fight scenes, especially the last one.
I was on active duty with the VF-21 Freelancers during the time before and during the filming of Top Gun, and when not aboard the USS Constellation (CV-64), we were stationed in Hangar 1 of NAS Miramar. Starting early 1986, we had to constantly "accomodate" the filming crews by parking our Tomcats closer to Hangar 2 so that actual maintenance of aircraft wouldn't be in the frame of any shots. As a small payback for the inconvenience of several months, all of the workcenter supervisors of four squadrons (VF-1, VF-2, VF-21, VF-154) got tickets to the premier. To be completely honest, after the first couple of scenes, nothing that happens in the entire movie is "real". When they say that the "hard deck" for a training hop is 10k feet, they mean it. The birds would never be anywhere near the hills and flats East of San Diego. They would realistically be between 15k and 25k altitude, not dashing between foothills. All that said, Ty is absolutely correct when he says that the Tomcat is the sexiest fighter ever built. Also the most capable of its day, and could still fly circles around F/A-18 "Lawndarts".
I'm not really into war movies but my favorite dogfight was in The Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzai Across the Eighth Dimension, a movie that has my favorite spaceship exterior, my favorite human-possessed-by-an-alien, and the first Clancy Brown performance I ever saw. The Expanse has my favorite space battles, by far.
I swear I saw Wes a few years back at my local airport here in the Blue Skies of Montana. I was heading out on a business trip, gave the ritual "Head nod of acknowledgement" and headed up the stairs. Halfway up, I stopped, thought, I think I know that guy, turned around and looked back. The guy (Pretty sure it was Wes) was dicking with his phone, looked up to see me looking back at him, dipped his head back down, turned and walked quickly away toward the head in that waiting area. Still wasn't sure, but we generally give folks their space around here.
Movie for power out at the wrong time… well the absolutely funniest is the landing sequence in Airplane! when the landing lights go out on short final….
I've recently completed a re-watch of all the existing The Expanse episodes (I was originally catching up to these podcasts, but then decided not to wait around week by week). To my shame I'd forgotten all about Anna, as excellently played by Elizabeth Mitchell. I was already a fan of her work in Lost and the V reboot, so it was a very pleasant surprise, for the second time, to see her on-screen as Anna. She absolutely rocks in the role, and it was good to hear that ,in Wes and Ty's experience, she's quite like that herself as well.
As a military aviation nerd hearing about Wes' time on the carrier was so cool. Cheers for the show as usual! The Mig 28 was an F-5 btw, the T38 trainer is basically the same thing though
Power goes out: when the monster sabotages the generator in John Carpenter’s The Thing starting the final act of the movie. The 80’s movies you cite are terrible genre movies that permeated that period. But for dogfights, I think the Battlestar Galactica reboot was pretty good. First, you have space craft not far removed from planetary aircraft and you have Newtonian mechanics being applied to space battles. Also, Triple-A in space…
So glad you guys mentioned Firefox. When I was a kid, I loved that movie. Nowadays it's totally campy. One of my favorite "dogfights" is actually underwater- Hunt for Red October at the end. Regarding power going out at the wrong time- ALIENS.
Hey - my dad fought in the Pacific WW2 (PT boat), but did not become a business man - he reenlisted for another 14 years, & then became a truck driver & a musician!
The Tuskegee Airmen with Cuba Gooding Jr & Laurence Fishburne. I had a relative who was a Tuskegee Airmen. Btw, I was rewatching S4... I'm so so hoping that you can bring Burn Gorman on when you talk about that season. 😁😁😁😁
That’s awesome about your relative. S4 was my jam! I am a big fan of westerns, so I loved how the slow burn/pressure build of that season was well crafted. The visuals were stunning too.
Battle of Britain needs to be in the list, but i overall love nerding out with people from my #1 all time show about my #1 passion, aviation. Kudos for knowing quite decently the names of the aircraft, with only a few, minor, mistakes.
Hello, self imagined one of your remaining 4 listeners here. Are there any plans to bring on Daniel from “SpaceDock”? I would also love to learn more about the surrounding fan community that help flesh out the extended world like with ship patches of ships that aren’t featured on the show. I myself want to make a Donnager Class, Schiaparelli patch if it doesn’t exist, but I want to make sure there isn’t a cannon version first, and am unsure how to check.
Might make it up to 5 listeners now! Always a highlight of my week to hear you guys chatting Expanse and a bunch of other random shit. Totally agree on Midway. Terrible movie in general but great dog fights!
Here’s hoping for aerial combat from Dunkirk, Stealth, Star Wars, the Expanse, and Aces High. (The good, the bad, and the ugly from them.) Maybe a side discussion on Iron Maiden.
Movie where power goes out at the worst time: Jurassic Park (Bonus: it’s also a movie where the power turns ON at the worst time, when the kid is climbing the electrified fence.)
I didn't really understand the whole podcast thing till now! I'm a few episodes behind but I really look forward to every show you guys put out! This episode was a great one, I think you may have even gained a listener or two ;). The banter and the memes were on point. You almost lost me with the dog fight list but you redeemed it by mentioning Iron Eagle LOL. I was waiting for that shout out - it is a completely believable movie, with a great soundtrack! Hahahaha
"Hells Angel's" has a lot of amazing historical facts to it when it comes down to the pilot, Pancho Barnes. She was one of the stunt pilots on "Hells Angel's" and due to the deaths of the stunt pilots in the filming of it, she went on to form the Movie Pilot's Union. It's a really cool history! Pancho Barnes is my hero.
Best dogfight scenes 1. Hotshots 2. Macross Zero/Pluss 3. Independence day 4. Topgun Honorable mention. The intro to James Bond: Tomorrow never dies 5. Stealth
I know I will get slack here....... BEST dog fight(even tho one sided)......... The Manadalorian , season 2 episode 4....... The tie fighters vs Din Djarin-slave 1. just straight up epic. I feel like baby yoda every time I watch it. blue puke from the g force yet hands in the air for the ride.
I always think of The Aviator when I think of Hell's Angels. He shot the movie twice because sound films came out before he finished the movie, so Howard Hughes remade the whole thing with sound.
I love how the show Avenue 5 handles the communication delay between earth and Jupiter. I wonder if they got the idea from The Expanse. The instigating crisis that sets up the whole show is based on gravity and inertia and I don't think that story would have happened if The Expanse hadn't come first.
agree the battle of Yavin might not have aged well, but what about Millenium Falcon flying through the asteroids in Empire Strikes Back !?? and the final battle (again the Millenium Falcon) just above Endor IMHO was just fabulous!!
Capricorn One gets my vote for a top-5 dogfight. A biplane against 2 helicopters. Plus Elliott Gould, Telly Savalas, James Brolin, and O.J. Simpson as an astronaut (!).
My first thought was that I have a distinction between science fiction dog fights and earthly dog fights. It was weird to me that they mentioned some sci-fi dog fights. Then I realized that, yep, they are hosting a channel ABOUT A SCI-FI SHOW that I LOVE and I still had a problem with the distinction. Maybe it is because The Expanse brings such a visceral sense to the reality of what 'you' as a person would experience if you were in that situation as compared to so many films/shows that prefer to emulate the 'emotional experience' of what a person would go through. I prefer, as many of you (I think), a show that provides a visceral representation of the environment, with an emotional reaction as interpreted by the actors, navigating an incredible, complex, and well-layered tale by the authors. Somehow, it elevated it from thinking of other 'sci-fi' movies to include along with this list and just include the more reality based. Totally silly, I know, but it's just the way my brain worked on this one.
1. Dunkirk (especially on the big screen) 2. oh no... You did not shoot that green shot at me 3. Battlestar Galactica (lots to chose from). 4. b5 Severed Dreams
Yes!!!! Iron Eagle!!! Watched that so many times as a kid. The speech Chappie gives was so awesome. Sequels were kind of a letdown. Yes 80's rocked. The Last Starfighter was another gem. The Expanse should have a Death Blossom moment. Also the new BSG had 1 or 2 great dogfights, they had some made for TV movies so technically in running.?. Dude yes! Independence day, the hype leading up to the release of that movie is something that can never be replicated. Cuba Gooding Jr needed a bigger role in Pearl Harbor, but most of the rest of the movie kinda blew.
So add on for best dog fights: WWII, "The Battle of Britain" . For scifi, "The Last Starfighter". Actually it's a horrible dog fight movie, but when your weapon of last resort is called "Death Blossom", it's got to be good.
While Star Wars isn't the definitive dogfight movie, Star Wars Episode 2 has the one redeeming quality (IMO) of having one of the coolest space dogfights ever - Obi-Wan vs. Jango Fett.
While I would soak up episodes of T&TG after some musshies, I have a distinct feeling that the idea of Wes presenting mid - hed - melt sounds a lot cooler than it would probably be...
Oh, I forgot. Yes, the "MIG-28" in Top Gun is portrayed by the F-5E Tiger II. At the real life Top Gun of the 80s and most of the 90s, the "adversary" aircraft were all F5-Es and A-4E/A-4F/TA-4J Skyhawks.
Two movies that should have been included, Blue Max and The Battle of Britain. The Death Star space battle sequence in Star Wars was inspired and in come cases taken word for word from The Battle of Britain, including the famous call sign line, " Red Five standing by ".
And the discussion continues! Over at The Expanse Geeks Facebook page, still duking it out over whether Amos can be a sociopath if he supports good parenting in space.
I had a funny example of the cell phone problem once in college. A bunch of us were walking through the woods at night (like stupid college students do), when I noticed that two of my friends were missing. So I pulled out my cell phone to call one of them. About 30 ft away we see a glow and hear his cell phone ringing, followed by him shouting, "Dang it!" Found out that he and the other person had peeled off to scare us when we walked back. So yeah, cell phones solve a lot of problems, even in real life.
I love that every Top 5 has become "How does Die Hard fit into this category" because this is something I've done in my life for years.
How y'all gonna spend 4 seconds skimming over the Roci power slide past the UNN ship scene? That's one of my faves. When Holden's in the gunner's seat jabbing away at his screen "... that's why we're gonna have to do this." And gives a little *swip* move over to Alex's screen. Alex: "shit, Cap. You sure?" Holden: "we picked this fight. We're punching above our weight. If you've got a better idea, now's the time."
And the whole maneuver is awesomely laid out. The shots go through space: the Roci, the Razorback, the UNN ship. Man! Good visuals!
And I'd like to spend a moment to mention how Naomi in a spacesuit is awesome. IDK why. Dominique kills it with the dialogue when she's in the helmet.
Best movie for “when power goes out at the wrong time”: PITCH BLACK
Best video game for when the power goes out at the wrong time is half life 2
Uh...Wrong! It's clearly Die Hard, when the power goes out releasing the electromagnetic seal on the vault.
@@Istar47 lol
@@Istar47 lol forgive me. Of course you’re right. 1. DIE HARD 2. Pitch Black 3. Jurassic Park
A big point of why Tora Tora Tora was legendary was the fact Iconic director, Akira Kurosawa, worked on the movie too (Seven Samurai, Ran etc). Much respect for the foresight to involve a Japanese director for the Japanese point of view.
Unfortunately, Kurosawa's tendency towards perfectionism caused him to be removed by the producers from directing the Japanese half of the film, but thankfully, his work on the script did not go to waste.
Words cannot express how much I live this show, Midnight and Sexy Pants.
When Wes started dropping Chet quotes from Weird Science - again, I was howling with laughter.
The fight in Dunkirk with those Spitfires is phenomenal.
Yes! No cgi, just strap IMAX cameras to the side of World War II aircraft!
That scene where Amos told Prax not to give up on finding Mei, makes me wonder Terry Chen's perspective. I really wish they had him on this show at last once to share his point of view. It is interesting for me now that Terry Chen is a father too. Awesome writing, acting, and over all show!
In re Top Gun, I was in my first class (Senior) year at USNA when it came out, just after 1st Class Cruise on Ticonderoga escorting Kitty Hawk and thus was able to cross deck onto the Kitty Hawk including time with the shooters (Catpult Crew) and Flags (LSO) on the flight deck for flight operations. So I'm in the theater watching the movie with my mother. She was white knuckling her seat on the flight deck operations. I said words to the effect of "no big deal, I was doing that last month." Fortunately she did not stroke out on the spot...
I love the idea of Wes doing a podcast while on shrooms. Dude was probably super focused on the pixels on the screen.
I'd pay to watch that. Sincerely.
Not a film but an episode of Battlestar Galactica called "scar" involving a raider and a viper
Space: Above and Beyond had a similar episode (the BSG one looks like a ripoff of it, honestly), a new type of enemy fighter, and a lone earth Hammerhead battling it out. "Abandon all hope".
Guys, Lisa was a genie. The whole computer-meets-Barbie thing is just a big early '80s stand-in for rubbing a magic lamp. Once you lock that in, everything else - the powers, the granting of wishes, the sense that she's moving on to somebody else once Gary and Wyatt have what they really wanted - just falls right into place.
The actress who plays Anna is so good, that she was able to make me intensely dislike the character she played on "Wayward Pines"! lol
The dogfight between the DC-3 and Aermacchi in Quantum of Solace is actually very good. I like the realism of actually hearing them talking through their headsets. The DC-3 is not a quiet plane so there would be no casual conversation without them.
The best bit where the power goes out at the wrong time is in Aliens right? "How could they cut the power?! They're animals man!"
Man, Bill Paxton gets all the best lines in that movie. I'm just gonna sit and think about Bill Paxton Aliens lines for the rest of the afternoon.
A Ty & That Guy Con, now with a 50% chance less chance of getting shot.
We can get that down to 25% as long as it isn't hosted in Chicago.
@@SnifferSock Or Baltimore.
Power going out epic fail moment-Drummer getting trapped against the winch in a random warehouse and not able to call for help!
Indiana Jones - the last crusade: *Sean Connery blasts the tail* ... "son, I'm sorry ... they got us..."
This podcast always makes my day better.
I just finished a month of watching seasons 1-5. Glad I went on reddit and found this podcast.
Glad Final Countdown got a mention, it actually has better dog fight chops than Top Gun 😄
But Dunkirk deserved a mention as well for the dog fight scenes, especially the last one.
there should be a medal for getting a kill without a working engine.
Top 5 Aerial Dogfights: Die Hard still gets #1 because of that 10 point perfect Hans dive.
They did shoot down a helicopter, right?
Fair.
I was on active duty with the VF-21 Freelancers during the time before and during the filming of Top Gun, and when not aboard the USS Constellation (CV-64), we were stationed in Hangar 1 of NAS Miramar. Starting early 1986, we had to constantly "accomodate" the filming crews by parking our Tomcats closer to Hangar 2 so that actual maintenance of aircraft wouldn't be in the frame of any shots. As a small payback for the inconvenience of several months, all of the workcenter supervisors of four squadrons (VF-1, VF-2, VF-21, VF-154) got tickets to the premier. To be completely honest, after the first couple of scenes, nothing that happens in the entire movie is "real". When they say that the "hard deck" for a training hop is 10k feet, they mean it. The birds would never be anywhere near the hills and flats East of San Diego. They would realistically be between 15k and 25k altitude, not dashing between foothills. All that said, Ty is absolutely correct when he says that the Tomcat is the sexiest fighter ever built. Also the most capable of its day, and could still fly circles around F/A-18 "Lawndarts".
I'm not really into war movies but my favorite dogfight was in The Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzai Across the Eighth Dimension, a movie that has my favorite spaceship exterior, my favorite human-possessed-by-an-alien, and the first Clancy Brown performance I ever saw. The Expanse has my favorite space battles, by far.
You clearly have discerning taste.
you guys, including Clint, are a full on comedy show now! I love it!
I swear I saw Wes a few years back at my local airport here in the Blue Skies of Montana. I was heading out on a business trip, gave the ritual "Head nod of acknowledgement" and headed up the stairs. Halfway up, I stopped, thought, I think I know that guy, turned around and looked back. The guy (Pretty sure it was Wes) was dicking with his phone, looked up to see me looking back at him, dipped his head back down, turned and walked quickly away toward the head in that waiting area. Still wasn't sure, but we generally give folks their space around here.
Movie for power out at the wrong time… well the absolutely funniest is the landing sequence in Airplane! when the landing lights go out on short final….
I've recently completed a re-watch of all the existing The Expanse episodes (I was originally catching up to these podcasts, but then decided not to wait around week by week).
To my shame I'd forgotten all about Anna, as excellently played by Elizabeth Mitchell. I was already a fan of her work in Lost and the V reboot, so it was a very pleasant surprise, for the second time, to see her on-screen as Anna. She absolutely rocks in the role, and it was good to hear that ,in Wes and Ty's experience, she's quite like that herself as well.
I'm still mad about the V reboot being canceled.
The Last Starfighter, Macross Plus
Great pod, as usual. Wes, as a navy nerd, I would love to hear more from your times on a US amphibious assault ship
As a military aviation nerd hearing about Wes' time on the carrier was so cool.
Cheers for the show as usual!
The Mig 28 was an F-5 btw, the T38 trainer is basically the same thing though
Power goes out: when the monster sabotages the generator in John Carpenter’s The Thing starting the final act of the movie.
The 80’s movies you cite are terrible genre movies that permeated that period. But for dogfights, I think the Battlestar Galactica reboot was pretty good. First, you have space craft not far removed from planetary aircraft and you have Newtonian mechanics being applied to space battles. Also, Triple-A in space…
Remember, stay out of Galactica's flak solution!
You guys antagonizing Clint is the best.
So glad you guys mentioned Firefox. When I was a kid, I loved that movie. Nowadays it's totally campy. One of my favorite "dogfights" is actually underwater- Hunt for Red October at the end. Regarding power going out at the wrong time- ALIENS.
Hey - my dad fought in the Pacific WW2 (PT boat), but did not become a business man - he reenlisted for another 14 years, & then became a truck driver & a musician!
WAY BETTER!
The Tuskegee Airmen with Cuba Gooding Jr & Laurence Fishburne. I had a relative who was a Tuskegee Airmen. Btw, I was rewatching S4... I'm so so hoping that you can bring Burn Gorman on when you talk about that season. 😁😁😁😁
That’s awesome about your relative. S4 was my jam! I am a big fan of westerns, so I loved how the slow burn/pressure build of that season was well crafted. The visuals were stunning too.
My first viewing of that conversation between Amos and Prax brought tears to my eyes
The podcast has gotten to my favorite part of the show and I love hearing all the bts for it.
Empire, when power goes 'ON" at the right time (thanks to R2D2!) and the Millennium Falcon jumps to hyperspace away from Darth Vader. Great scene!
Top Gun and Empire Strikes Back were my 2 year old son's favorite movies. I saw them both so many times!!
Battle of Britain needs to be in the list, but i overall love nerding out with people from my #1 all time show about my #1 passion, aviation. Kudos for knowing quite decently the names of the aircraft, with only a few, minor, mistakes.
Haha...I have the same "Double Tap" t-shirt that Ty is wearing. :D
Hello, self imagined one of your remaining 4 listeners here. Are there any plans to bring on Daniel from “SpaceDock”?
I would also love to learn more about the surrounding fan community that help flesh out the extended world like with ship patches of ships that aren’t featured on the show. I myself want to make a Donnager Class, Schiaparelli patch if it doesn’t exist, but I want to make sure there isn’t a cannon version first, and am unsure how to check.
That would be great!
Hey!! Man am here every time. Can't watch it in Wednesday but I always watch on Thursday. 😬
To Wes, the ch46 is a phrog, or sea knight, the chinook is a 47 and used only by army. Just sayin shipmate lol signed your friendly Marine Aircrewman
Brit here, Battle of Britain chaps. Spitfires and Michael Cane. Top 5 easy.
I just got to this ep and to me this is top 3.
In The Silence of the Lambs when Clarice Starling is in the basement and Jame Gumb tunes off the power.
Might make it up to 5 listeners now! Always a highlight of my week to hear you guys chatting Expanse and a bunch of other random shit.
Totally agree on Midway. Terrible movie in general but great dog fights!
Here’s hoping for aerial combat from Dunkirk, Stealth, Star Wars, the Expanse, and Aces High. (The good, the bad, and the ugly from them.)
Maybe a side discussion on Iron Maiden.
Up the Irons!
How can you include 'Stealth' and not 'Chevaliers du Ciel', the FBI is gonna come after you.
@@pablom-f8762 Have not seen that one! Does it also include ridiculous flying scenes that don't always make sense? (Either way, I'll check it out).
Movie where power goes out at the worst time: Jurassic Park
(Bonus: it’s also a movie where the power turns ON at the worst time, when the kid is climbing the electrified fence.)
Yes! This!
And Aliens
If Ty doesn't want us at his house I say we go round Wes instead
Greatest "power going out at the wrong time" scene has to be the med lab xenomorph attack in Aliens.
Paxton/Hudson; "What do you mean they cut the power? They're animals!" Dies two minutes later.
@@RSW6666 R.I.P. Bill Paxton/Hudson
I am your #3 viewer and I wanted to say that Ty has an acute sense of the obvious...
Nice webcam mic Ty! lol
I didn't really understand the whole podcast thing till now! I'm a few episodes behind but I really look forward to every show you guys put out! This episode was a great one, I think you may have even gained a listener or two ;). The banter and the memes were on point. You almost lost me with the dog fight list but you redeemed it by mentioning Iron Eagle LOL. I was waiting for that shout out - it is a completely believable movie, with a great soundtrack! Hahahaha
"Hells Angel's" has a lot of amazing historical facts to it when it comes down to the pilot, Pancho Barnes. She was one of the stunt pilots on "Hells Angel's" and due to the deaths of the stunt pilots in the filming of it, she went on to form the Movie Pilot's Union.
It's a really cool history! Pancho Barnes is my hero.
Oh wow, the Pancho Barnes who started the Happy Bottom Riding Club bar out by Muroc/Edwards AFB? That's pretty fantastic!
Mushies and gettin' shot at Ty's, babyyyy!
Listener number four reporting in
Best dogfight scenes
1. Hotshots
2. Macross Zero/Pluss
3. Independence day
4. Topgun
Honorable mention. The intro to James Bond: Tomorrow never dies
5. Stealth
I know I will get slack here....... BEST dog fight(even tho one sided)......... The Manadalorian , season 2 episode 4....... The tie fighters vs Din Djarin-slave 1. just straight up epic. I feel like baby yoda every time I watch it. blue puke from the g force yet hands in the air for the ride.
OMG Wes does mushrooms. That is awesome.And Clint produced Thrilling Adventure Hour?? A+
Okay one, I was very happy you included Tora Tora Tora, but two, can we get an episode with Wes on mushrooms please?
Scream used delay pretty well in a horror context (The scene with the cameraman in the news van)
I always think of The Aviator when I think of Hell's Angels. He shot the movie twice because sound films came out before he finished the movie, so Howard Hughes remade the whole thing with sound.
There needs to be at least one podcast where Wes only does Bill Paxton lines.
Thrilling Adventure Hour! Many many shows seen at the ol' M Bar, Ben & Ben had me do door for a couple of months.
I love how the show Avenue 5 handles the communication delay between earth and Jupiter. I wonder if they got the idea from The Expanse. The instigating crisis that sets up the whole show is based on gravity and inertia and I don't think that story would have happened if The Expanse hadn't come first.
How had I not heard of this show? Looks cool, will check it out!
The Expanses Aerial Dogfights remind me so much of the game Space Engineers. As do other scenes like searching the Scopuli close to that asteroid.
The best Star Wars space battle, and the one that should absolutely be in any dogfight top 5, is the battle of Scarif in Rogue One.
..go away man-child! ;-P
Seriously you guys crack me up with the die hard stuff
Truth is hard to grasp for some :-(
agree the battle of Yavin might not have aged well, but what about Millenium Falcon flying through the asteroids in Empire Strikes Back !?? and the final battle (again the Millenium Falcon) just above Endor IMHO was just fabulous!!
When Wyatt and Gary were feeding the computer information, there is 1 pic of Harry Houdini that was inserted, hence magic.
F16 is the sweetest jet. Hope you have Scar episode from BSG
You are so hillarious with this Die Hard :D So radiculous and funny.
Capricorn One gets my vote for a top-5 dogfight. A biplane against 2 helicopters. Plus Elliott Gould, Telly Savalas, James Brolin, and O.J. Simpson as an astronaut (!).
Oh, we are four fans again. Who joined? *looks around in suspicion*
C-can I be a part of the 6 please...!! I am so late but I love ya'll ~!!
Only 2 minutes left and I don't think you said the Spitfire scene throughout and at the end of Dunkirk.
The book you are sending out...please tell me that is Leviathan Falls. :)
The Blue Max is the ultimate dog fight movie.
The Final Countdown!!!!!
Speaking of WWII movies, did you not see Battle of Britain (1969)? A great war and dog fight movie!
I wouldn't put Star Wars on the list either but Jedi and Rogue One would definitely make it.
My first thought was that I have a distinction between science fiction dog fights and earthly dog fights. It was weird to me that they mentioned some sci-fi dog fights. Then I realized that, yep, they are hosting a channel ABOUT A SCI-FI SHOW that I LOVE and I still had a problem with the distinction. Maybe it is because The Expanse brings such a visceral sense to the reality of what 'you' as a person would experience if you were in that situation as compared to so many films/shows that prefer to emulate the 'emotional experience' of what a person would go through. I prefer, as many of you (I think), a show that provides a visceral representation of the environment, with an emotional reaction as interpreted by the actors, navigating an incredible, complex, and well-layered tale by the authors.
Somehow, it elevated it from thinking of other 'sci-fi' movies to include along with this list and just include the more reality based. Totally silly, I know, but it's just the way my brain worked on this one.
1. Dunkirk (especially on the big screen)
2. oh no... You did not shoot that green shot at me
3. Battlestar Galactica (lots to chose from).
4. b5 Severed Dreams
Nope!
Yes!!!! Iron Eagle!!! Watched that so many times as a kid. The speech Chappie gives was so awesome. Sequels were kind of a letdown. Yes 80's rocked. The Last Starfighter was another gem. The Expanse should have a Death Blossom moment. Also the new BSG had 1 or 2 great dogfights, they had some made for TV movies so technically in running.?. Dude yes! Independence day, the hype leading up to the release of that movie is something that can never be replicated. Cuba Gooding Jr needed a bigger role in Pearl Harbor, but most of the rest of the movie kinda blew.
So add on for best dog fights: WWII, "The Battle of Britain" . For scifi, "The Last Starfighter". Actually it's a horrible dog fight movie, but when your weapon of last resort is called "Death Blossom", it's got to be good.
While Star Wars isn't the definitive dogfight movie, Star Wars Episode 2 has the one redeeming quality (IMO) of having one of the coolest space dogfights ever - Obi-Wan vs. Jango Fett.
Yeah! Those seismic charges Jango used make basically no sense, but they were awesome and sounded amazing!
Xpanse series 😮 💛
While I would soak up episodes of T&TG after some musshies, I have a distinct feeling that the idea of Wes presenting mid - hed - melt sounds a lot cooler than it would probably be...
Ah yeah “Top Gun” baby! Highway to the danger zone! 🎵
what's up with Ty's mic this episode, sounds so metallic
Northrop F-5 was the "Mig" I have to mention the F4 Phantom that Viper was flying. That is a sexy aircraft.
Viper flew the A4 Skyhawk. F-4 phantom is a much larger aircraft, and has pilot and back seat radar operator
Oh, I forgot. Yes, the "MIG-28" in Top Gun is portrayed by the F-5E Tiger II. At the real life Top Gun of the 80s and most of the 90s, the "adversary" aircraft were all F5-Es and A-4E/A-4F/TA-4J Skyhawks.
Two movies that should have been included, Blue Max and The Battle of Britain. The Death Star space battle sequence in Star Wars was inspired and in come cases taken word for word from The Battle of Britain, including the famous call sign line, " Red Five standing by ".
And the discussion continues! Over at The Expanse Geeks Facebook page, still duking it out over whether Amos can be a sociopath if he supports good parenting in space.
You guys left out The Battle of Britain!
I’m number 5. I have been on vacation
I had a funny example of the cell phone problem once in college. A bunch of us were walking through the woods at night (like stupid college students do), when I noticed that two of my friends were missing. So I pulled out my cell phone to call one of them. About 30 ft away we see a glow and hear his cell phone ringing, followed by him shouting, "Dang it!" Found out that he and the other person had peeled off to scare us when we walked back. So yeah, cell phones solve a lot of problems, even in real life.
One of my favorite of all time movies, "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles" basically doesn't work in the cell-phone era.
On the subject of power outages I think you can do no better than Jurassic Park.
Dog fighting and stealing jets eh? The master piece that is Battlefield Earth?!
Five - five loyal fans! So what that I'm 75 years old. Old ladies still count.