Big Picture - MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE REVELATIONS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- Kevin Smith and Netflix handed in 6 episodes worth of Gen-X action figure fanservice AND somehow made a good cartoon out of it... and The Internet STILL found a way to get mad about it.
#MOTU #MastersOfTheUniverse #HeMan
Two phrases that should definitely enter the mainstream lexicon:
"TH-cam Performative Rage Industrial Complex"
"Attention Economy"
It's already in the popular lexicon in the form of that memetic list of four steps, the last two of which are always
3.????
4. PROFIT
Yeah, Bob's got a way with coining a term or five, especially regarding internet buffoonery.
@@gonesnake2337 You bet your sweet ass he does. Bob is good people.
I liked "living down to the stereotype".
I like the term rage peddler
"And then instead of a third season they did a show about He-Man's sister... and you knew it was supposed to be for girls, but you watched it anyway. And you didn't really figure out why you didn't mind until a few years later..."
Truth, my brother.
He-Man was in almost half the episodes of She-Ra for … reasons?
Also She-Ra was dark as fuck. From forced labor death marches, to book burning, to all manner of just horrible atrocities committed by the Horde.
Honestly that’s one of may criticisms for the fantastic Princesses of Power reboot is that the Horde didn’t actually do that much to show how evil they were. Compared to the original, they always felt like they were wearing kids gloves.
Am I the only one whose brain jumped to trans egg cracking? really? damn, I guess so...
"BIG-ASS TITTIES!"
And then the reboot came along... and the manlets started whining that they didn't get "Pastel Metal Hurlaunt."
@@MungkaeX I had very few criticisms of the She-ra reboot, but yeah the Horde was not dark enough for me.
@@teraxe I have a few; but they are mostly nit picky. I don’t think Catra did enough to earn her redemption arc (if we can even call it that); but it’s also hardly the worst example of an unearned redemption in media either.
Season 1 Scorpia was a badass Force Captain who knew her shit and was an actual threat. But Season 2 on she was dumbed down and became far less competent as an individual, taking a subservient role.
As a fan of the original, there are a few plot threads that they started to allude to from the original, but then dropped. They only ever confirmed 6 of the Elemental Princesses, but in season 1 they made it seem like they needed to find and recruit all the Princesses Light Hope showed the silhouettes of.
I could go on for ages talking about She-Ra. I really hope they do something else with that version. The well rounded characters and they built up such an interesting world (well universe) seems like a waste to just leave it where it is currently.
I was expecting Bob to mention the magic girl transformation of Adam to He-Man.
It was (chef kiss) fantastic.
I think you mean "Jeff's Kiss" fantastic.
It was great, but I'd have liked the music to be a little punchier.
@@rayneofsalt9217 outside of reusing the exact score of Filmation (which they didn’t have the rights to do), what exactly did you have in mind?
That can be lumped in with "He-Man Being Awesome." And let's not mince words... the baby-men pretending to be "big mad" at Kevin Smith for the high crime of "Letting Teela Do Stuff Despite Having Boobs And Ovaries" have let that detail go unnoticed, because it doesn't fit into their overall narrative of "Desecration Of The Ultimate Symbol Of Masculinity."
Who's basically been queer-coded since the original Filmation cartoon. Ya think they were just throwin' darts when they came up with "Fabulous Secret Powers" or that "Dirty Dancing" parody with live-action recreations of He-Man and Skeletor?
@@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 Adam and Bow definitely were making eyes at one another in Secret of the Sword. Bow knows the “Secret” of Adam’s “Sword”, if you know what I mean.
Most shocking thing about this series is that it's called something as overused and generic as "revelations" but it's entire premise is BUILT on delivering what that title promises
The title orginally promised He-Man, then they renamed it.
@@uanime1 and that NEVER happens in entertainment production.
@@uanime1 So you're mad that they gave you fair warning the show wasn't going to be about Shirtless Shazam? That seems pretty weird, but okay.
@@uanime1
The name of the franchise is just Masters Of The Universe. That's what it has always said on the toys. It's just the cartoon that was named He-Man and The Masters Of The Universe (and that was just called Masters Of The Universe in most of the world anyway).
Yeah, but disappointingly, the delivery kind of fell flat....they chickened out too often.
I just want to say that I really like how the show handled Skeletor. Yes, it's clear that his plans are silly and never work out, and all his minions actually hated him for wasting their time, but it shows that his greatest strength is his tenacity. He might fail, but he has a million other schemes ready to take over Castle Grayskull, and only one of them needs to succeed.
So...he's a Goth Wile E. Coyote with minions?
@@johnathonhaney8291 Perhaps if Skeletor could just get his hands on the Acme Catalog, then the forces of good would have never stood a chance against him.
They made Orco a badass somehow and had Mark Hamill voice Skeletor. I see this as an absolute win.
I feel like I heard for years Orco was kind of annoying in the original show having not grown up with the show and just seen the video essays and jokes on it. But when I saw this new series I was really surprised with what they did with him. They made him pretty dang awesome and his scenes had the most heart to them. I think one of his best scenes was with Evil-Lyn. Those two had really good chemistry together.
Amen brother
Then they killed Orco because the writers hated him.
@@uanime1 Orco isn't dead. He didn't die on screen.
@@TwinRiver100 that part with Orko & Evil-Lyn connecting heart, to heart. Powerful. We did not have that level of depth in the old series. Right there, character development, growth, and Evil-Lyn actually having a heart (not just a villainess) we had known way back when. But the twist of the knife at the end.. that heart is still there, she is just playing Skeletor, like a skilled actress.
Even admitting to Orko, with his decision to give his life, so everyone could make it to the other side. You could feel their emotions.
The He-Man issue is why some of the best Justice League/DC Universe stories are one where Supes is also sidelined, reduced in power or is handed an enemy that is actually on his power level (the finale of Justice League Unlimited comes to mind: Superman vs. Darkseid, with the gloves OFF).
Or that follow him as a person as opposed to a fighter
Superman’s battle of wits with Mr. Mxyzptlk in TAS is one of my favorite episodes of his. Change in POV from Supes to an antagonist, the pacing of the humor and action and, of course, Gilbert Godfrey.
Pretty much Final Crisis in a nutshell.
Superman is sidelined for 80% of the epic and then swoops in at the end to sing away the villain and punch a super vampire.
Even some of the best writers have trouble writing all-powerful characters.
Wow! Just Wow. Bob, I know you and I are on the same wavelength often times; but GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!
This sounded like a long form version of my average MotU:R comments I’ve been dropping in the few circles I travel.
The only point I regularly bring up that you missed is that by 1980’s standards MotU was the most “Woke” thing on television! A toy line aimed at boys that includes a female character in the first run of six characters? And she’s not some McGuffin to just be rescued, but a “Warrior Goddess”? Life lessons about how women are just as smart as men and shouldn’t be ignored just because of their biological sex? Treat others fairly even if they look different from you? There are multiple episodes that the not too subtle message is “don’t be racist” without saying don’t be racist.
God, the bar is so fucking low now. Apparently as far as I can tell being “woke” is just being a good person, which begs the question how insufferable are these people complaint about “woke”ness? Are they puppy kickers too?
"The woke liberal media doesn't want you to exercise your freedom to kick puppies!" - I mean we must be just a few years away from a TH-cam video with that exact title.
@@KillahMate I laugh at the absurdity of that title. I cry at the fact there are so few steps before someone reaches it non-ironically.
It’s weird that the mid 2000s outsourced anime transformers and He-Man series are just forgotten when these Netflix adaptations are brought up despite being good in their own right.
Not entirely. King Grayskull (despite the significant redesign) is all 200X. A lot of the character designs are pulling a lot of inspiration from their 200X counterparts. Oh, and the split Sword of Power individually share some resemblance to Skeletor’s duel blades he used in 200X which were originally designed to be the two parts for the Sword of Power (also why He-Man’s sword in that one looked all techy was because the original idea was that after Skeletor got the Sword of Power, Man-At-Arms built the tech one so Adam could still tap into the Power of Grayskull without the legit Sword of Power.)
I liked how they gave the origin for Snake Mountain. That was one of the things that bugged me as a kid. Why did Skeletor NOT live in Castle Greyskull and lived in a Snake instead? A little OCD because I liked symmetry as a kid lol.
@@selalewow You’re not the only one to make that mistake in the early days of MotU. A lot of the art in those early days actually shows Skeletor defending the gates of Castle Grayskull from He-Man and Co. because the artists hired made the same assumptions about the skull-faced person living in the skull-faced castle. Though that Art probably did help perpetuate that mistake as well.
I'll admit I passed on this show because of the general uproar (didn't actually pay attention to what was being said, just the loudness and not wanting to get pulled into those fan circles' proximity) and my own personal loss of love for Kevin Smith. Ultimately, this video has shown me that I should always endeavor to experience and judge things directly for myself. Thanks MovieBob!
Orco and Roboto were shockingly cool characters who both went out like absolute chads, and yo I was crying about characters from a show I didn't even watch the original version of. I'd say it was successful
If Orco is actually dead, I'll eat my shoes.
@@OmegaLittleBob They’ve already pulled the old “I’m not dead” bit with Trapjaw. If a buzz saw to the face doesn’t kill, an offscreen explosion has no chance of killing Orco.
And that’s before we get to the whole Death means as much here as it does in Dragon Ball.
@@MungkaeX I mean I hate to say this to you but both Kevin Smith and the voice of Orco we’re on his podcast and they heavily implied he was coming back too. Kevin Smith didn’t have carte blanche to completely change the series, he had to go through Mattel for everything and I highly doubt they want their character dead.
And here's the thing... they can both RETURN. Roboto's a robot... he can be rebuilt. Man-At-Arms is that boss. As for Orko... his brawl with Scare Glow was very much "Gandalf Vs. The Balrog."
Orko The White, anyone?
@@mistercard3599 I’m not sure what part of my comment gave you the impression that I did not think Orko will be back.
Between Orko’s “death” and TrapJaw’s “death”; TrapJaw seemed far less likely to come back from that. Orko’s “death” is off screen and there is no body. I don’t need Kevin Smith on a podcast to imply anything, Orko’s not even dead. Trapped in Subternia, but absolutely alive.
I’ll even bet dollars to donuts that he’ll be back with a massive power increase from his “training” in Subternia. Could Orko absorb or learn Scareglow’s powers? Just master his own? Are his prior magical follies simply the result of Orko not being able to face his own fear of living up to his given name of “Oracle” (or whatever crazy spelling they give it “Orakle”)?
In any case Orko will return and fully live up to that given name and his parents expectations.
I enjoyed MOTU:R precisely because it developed the side characters. He-Man is a very two dimensional character. Even as a kid I wanted to see more about Teela - hell, the only episode I really remember is the one where we found out the Sorceress is her mother.
He-Man was technically in every episode…in one form or another. It’s hardly Kevin Smith’s fault that some people can’t appreciate good storytelling through subverted expectations. Also, let’s be honest here…we should’ve seen the cliffhanger coming from Smith. This is a guy who flat out said in his first film that Empire is the best film out of the original trilogy because ends on a down-note.
I hadn’t thought about the monetizing faux outrage angle & now I feel dumb for not connecting the dots sooner.
I actually mention a bit of "Yeah, You Can Set Your Watch To This" in my own review... and also that He-Man is kinda boring all by himself because his very presence is an instant-win condition. He's like the Hulk that way... once he shows up to the fight ready and rarin' to go, it's "Good Night, Irene."
Spread this around, will ya? 'Preciate it.
th-cam.com/video/44y6rzo2qAo/w-d-xo.html
I have a lot of criticisms of the show, but overall, I think this was the best possible execution of the concept if that's the concept they had to stick with. I'd take it further than Bob does, and say that Teela is the only character in the original cartoon who has an arc at all, so it makes a lot of sense to me that she'd be the star of any show continuing the original story. I think Kevin Smith's biggest failing was giving his audience of middle-aged men too much credit, assuming they'd have matured enough to not get mad they have to share their cartoon with GIRLS who are gonna get their COOTIES ALL OVER IT.
Teela is more endearing on the 2002 version, and a lot hotter too. Here, she's just your ironically Toxic-Masculine Strong-Independent-Female-Character. Adam died, but sure make it about her being lied to.
For all of their complaints of unrealistic portrayal of women being curvy, they traded it for unrealistically muscular women. It's not that muscular women don't exist, but someone like Maki in the fire-force looks better than this basically He-Ma'am.
@@The6thMessenger Dude, it's so weird that in the very first sentence you let us know you're mad at new Teela because she doesn't give you an erection. Like, quit snitching on yourself.
That's a really interesting comment chain and to not derail it can we just ignore the Chud above me?
I know we all want to make fun of The6thMessenger's profile pic or pick apart his whining that Teela is not hot enough and too muscular, but let's just leave it.
P.S. As someone who thinks that the fanservice in Fire Force is horribly annoying and unfunny, the anime/manga is too good to be wasted on chuds like you.
It’s not perfect, but it was surprising and fun. Glad others feel the same way, too. :)
Could have been so easy to make much better though.
Nothing is perfect. Even something “better” for some would be “worse” in the eyes of someone else.
Each and everyone of us would have made some different choices had we been in charge. The important part is “was it fun?” And by that metric it was a success with me.
So wait the show called MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE is about the.... other Masters of the Universe?! I AM SHOCKED!
But for real, this show deserves an award for doing the impossible. Making me CARE about ORKO!
Ah, I always liked Orko. He was always an underdog in my eyes, not as flashy, bit of a screwup but kept trying anyway.
Funnily enough, Orko was actually always a favorite of mine. I like wizards, and I like the goofy kid-appeal characters that make my inner six-year-old smile.
Whatever it's called, He-Man will ALWAYS be synonymous with 'Masters Of The Universe'.
@@Launchpad05 He's also boring. Seriously. He's got a sword that shoots lasers and he can bench-press mountains and hurl tanks into low orbit. Which is why it make sense to take him off the board and let the OTHER Masters Of The Universe, especially the one with the as-yet-unresolved plot-threads, shine on their own WITHOUT the presence of the guy whose presence on the battlefield is an instant-win condition.
Not that the manlets care... they just think (for a given value of "thinking") Kevin Smith lied to them because they were trained to think that way by the slightly smarter (but not by much) manlets who made a cottage-industry out of "Being Pissed Off That Women And Minorities Like The Same Stuff They Do, And Emptying The Wallets Of Those That Agree With Them."
Especially TheQuartering- AKA "The Guy Who Can't Play 'Magic: The Gathering' Professionally Anymore Because He's A Known And Unapologetic Sex-Pest."
that whedon hit, lmfao, well done
I’m so glad for this video and comment thread. I thought I was going insane by liking it.
Many people were upset because of the fact that Teela was the main character of the show instead of He-Man, and also feeling that Kevin Smith apparently lied to them through the marketing. To that, I say "Ha!" I really enjoyed MOTU: Revelation because it took the characters in a brand new less formulaic direction, and gave them some personalities
Thank you Bob. Finally someone says what I’ve been saying and seeing a lot more of these past few years. Hating and being upset for these guys gets them more views. It’s widely known now that negativity can draw in a bigger audience (Facebook) and I’m sick of these TH-cam guys who get pissed at every little thing just for views. I don’t care I wanna know if the show is good and watchable I don’t need your personal opinion on how it went “woke” whatever that means. You’re the man Bob I watch everything you put out because you’re level headed and do a great job. Cheers!
Ty. Finally a good review for a show that is really good. So sick of all the crybabys.
Cool! I was waiting to hear from you on this one, and you didn't disappoint! Good stuff!
Bob spittin’ facts. MOTU Revelations parts 1 & 2 were excellent.
This is the greatest video about Revelations that I’ve ever seen! Thank you.
Once again, Bob, you've crystallized my thoughts eloquently. Revelations is exactly what it says on the tin: a revelation. The thin stories and animation of the original series was fine as an asset to selling a toyline in the 80s but if you want a mature update don't complain when you get one. This is where I never expected them to go with the Masters of the Universe and it's all the better for it.
Additionally, I'm all for putting out things when they're ready as opposed to a particular schedule. I like knowing that the creators that I like are working at their own pace and crafting something thought out and complete as opposed to rushing it out to meet some arbitrary deadline. Do what works for you, Bob.
To be clear there are justified complains about the show. Like removing someone who was seen as protagonist from first season would not pass in most of franchises (and show was promoted to imply he would be such). Yes, it would be good plot twist for later season, but it was extremely unnecessary way to start the series. On top of that Adam in previous shows was capable even without the sword and this version is wimp. So that is another weird decision. And from my personal perspective dated design and thin plot is also another thing what undermine this show (though those aspects were expected by the fanboys). New She-Ra work not because woman or subversive (what ever that mean) themes, but because it provide really good overhaul of design to more modern techno-fantasy anime and give plot with stakes, still being part of same universe. This new He-Man show seams as forgettable as the 2002 version. So on that level it is a failure. We already have superior Shi-Ra.
@@TheRezro
Those are not justified complaints. Those are merely plot elements you do not like. That the show has serious pacing issues, and isn't very accessible to somebody who isn't already a fan are justified complaints.
@@Carabas72 Your opinions are equally opinionated, so don't pretend otherwise. I don't even like He-Man, but I understand at least some part of criticism. Of course like usual in such cases rational criticism is overshadowed by man-child's crying over incel nonsense. But that is different story. Point is that at least part of issues could be easily avoided, if promotion would be straight about what this show is.
@@TheRezro
The very first press release about this show the world ever saw, at WonderCon, *the* MatU convention no less, was that this was going to focus on Teela's story, and that the story of the first arc was going to be about Teela needing to figure out stuff after He-Man goes missing.
The people that claim they have been lied to have nothing to base that on except a few youtube channels making that the narrative.
Yay finally someone's not complaining the show was something it wasn't. All those other channels that I used to be a regular on a year ago complain about MOTU:R being "woke" and how it ruined their childhoods, I can't help but wonder how? How exactly is it woke? How exactly did it ruin your childhoods? It's not complete yet for 1. For another they commonly used to remove He-man in the 80's show to let others strut including Teela. Grow the fuck up. He-man finally did. There are stakes now, things actually happen. I for one thoroughly enjoyed MOTU:R
Childhood's end for me was 30 years ago. Wonder why these guys couldn't move on.
This is honestly one of the best points. I feel the term 'woke' is doing a lot of imaginary legwork in relation to this series. There are no actual plotlines in the series that fit what is traditionally considered 'woke' the series didnt suddenly start talking about the mistreatment of black people in Eternia and despite Teela's haircut there were no gender or sexuality revelations. It would be a depressing notion that even having a female character = woke but seeing as the same outrage merchants have followed up with videos crying that "Alien" and "Childs Play" has suddenly gone woke it's very clear right now that crying woke on anything = money to these charlatans.
The vast majority of the plots are actually fairly by the numbers plots and character interactions, it's something I actually criticize the series for that it went for the classic empire strikes back face your fear plotline so bluntly.
@@connla Indeed. And people that watch those videos from those charlatans only want they biases confirmed. Those are people that those channels pander to while complaining about imagenary pandering of other groups in media.
ORCO MADE ME CRY😭😭😭😭
You ever get the sense that Bob gets so annoyed with the outrage merchant as a sort of second hand embarrassment?
As a geek community we should ALL have collective second hand embarrassment at these "anti woke/sjw culture war" idiots and the goons that stir the pot for their clicks like Clownfish or that Yellow Flash idiot.
@@DrZann They're the main reason why, despite my own interests, I can't consider myself part of that community. Any community harboring these kind of bullies is not one I ever care to belong to.
You ever get the sense that Bob gets equally annoyed with the annoyed other side because he gets money out of YT videos just like them? Embarassment is as good of a paycheck maker as outrage
I remember watching it with my Dad and the thing he kept on comparing it to was "Transformers: The Movie". Not in a bad way, mind you, just noting all the character deaths that happened. I think it was a REALLY bold "Last Jedi'-esque move on Kev's part, and I hope he continues on with it.
I did see the outrage in a theoretical sense when they shifted protagonist, but I never really thought about it in the context of She-ra and what that show went, and how that could've affected discourse. And I never really saw the outrage in any way. I'm kinda done with that type of outrage, to be frank. (I consider Dec 2019 to be one of the worst months of my life).
One last spoiler-ee note,
I don't think Orco and Adam are dead. Orco kinda got sucked into a point disappeared, so I think he might still be somewhere. Adam's wound is on his side, and I have half a feeling that the next season might focus on getting Adam back if he's not killed outright. This could be me holding onto hopes, so don't quote me.
All'n'all, me and my fam enjoyed what was on offer and are interested to see where this will go.
I agree that the show does not deserve the hate it got and it is mostly neckbreads crying into their He-man body pillows in their Mom's basement keeping it alive. The animation was pretty good but as per many Covid-era shows, the production seemed shorted. The 5 episode segment could have been stretched to10 and tell more story in between, but Netflix likes it short seasons.
They establish a heaven/hell mythos. They say He-man can't go back to heaven if he leaves... They will more then likely go to the other place to find Adam. I didn't grow up with much He-man in my life, but I enjoyed this and seen it as the long form story telling that it is.
Bro, imagine being a fan of Transformers, getting all excited to finally see them on the big screen, and the opening act was a graphic (and I mean graphic, please look it up) massacre of all your favorite characters. Those scars are never fading lol.
@@matttran7161 I don't need to imagine it. I am that person my friend. But because of that Transformers has been itched into my DNA. Robert Kirkman said that everything he has ever made is him trying to recreate the feeling that T86 gave him.
"TH-cam Performative Rage Industrial Complex" YYEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
A couple of thoughts. 1) Covid definitely affected the final product. We'll probably see a lot of this in the coming months/years. Productions forced to change their schedules and truncate their episodes to wrok around the pandemic. Loki has a similar too short/not enough development vibe going. 2) I'm glad they got a cameo of Allan Oppenheimer, but it highlights one of the whiplash moments of the series: balancing the silly giggiling Skeletor of the 80's/flashbacks with the Darth Vadar wannabe of the movie they are trying to channel. 3) I was really keen to see this new Eternia. Because while the magic side has definitely gone all Mad Max, I was curious how the technology side was getting along. Triklops cult seemed the tip of a very big iceberg. And it would have been an interesting arc for Teela who rejected all this magic to have to reconcile with this as a Sorceress in waiting.
It's as strong an attempt as the early 2000's series, but the twist cliffhanger at the end of part 1... It would work if the next part came soon, but the longer the pause the more you think about it. And the more you think about it the less sense it makes.
Yah they did seem to rush that part. How did the Havoc staff become the Holy Grail in Triclops' cult? Where did the magic tech juice come from? How did Teela even know which cup to get? She was never shown a picture, just told it was in Snake Mountain and had sentimental value, not the one Triclops was using for his cult. Could have been a coffee mug for all she knew.
I'm on a lot on animation Twitter and have talked with a few people in that industry, animation has BOOMED because of the pandemic. Largely because everybody can more easily do the work from home as opposed to live action which relies on a huge amounts of people to be together in one space. Tons of animators have been doing the animations you saw this year from home last year. Tons of productions are investing in animation because of this fact. I've literally heard this from a director/animator's mouth. So I dunno if the truncation vibe is for the reason you cited. Maybe it's just the age old issue of budgets and studio meddling? It seems more likely given what I've been seeing and hearing from the industry itself.
The *"Man Baby Industrial Complex"* strikes again.
I wish I could remember who I heard that from so I could give proper credit but it's a keeper.
No. You mean 'The Mainstream Media Gaslight Industrial Complex Strikes Again'.
@@Launchpad05 Because Nerdrotic's a real hero, giving a child murder apologist like Alex Jones a platform. Yeah, sticking it to the man.
There is seemingly, unfortunately, a section of nerd culture that is deeply rooted in this gatekeeping ethos.
This stuff is and should be for everyone, but some just want it for the time they remember - and sometimes that comes along with a whole load of toxic ideology like sexism, racism and homophobia.
Kevin Smith is great for not taking crap from that particular section.
Kevin Smith knocked this He-Man adaptation out of the park. He got me interested in Scare Glow and Preternia, he reminded me why I love the hell out of Orko, and he actually got me to care about Teela beyond "Hot Redhead What Fights Good."
Just like how Noelle Stevenson gave me the "Science-Geek Waifu" version of Entrapta and a generation of LGBTQ kids a love-story between "Stormcast Eternal Sailor Moon" and "Angry Lesbian Catgirl."
Same
What compounds that sin in this case is that this particular franchise was pretty adamantly against sexism, homophobia, and prejudice in general. The kind of people acting as self-appointed bouncers today have been behaving exactly like the villains or characters made to learn lessons in the original series.
Tale a dive off a rooftop, gatekeeping is good
@@themanofmovies8104 Wow.... commenting like a twelve year old on a two-year old post because you don't agree with me. Congrats, you're the problem.
I've been a Motu fan all my life and this reboot was brilliant. It added to the characters and lore (yes there is a lore even though convoluted and dumb) and built a narrative.
For anyone to think they killed off he-man and skeletor permanently needs to have their head checked even if Smith wanted to you think Mattel would let him.
The show has brought depth to a lingering plot hole and I can't wait for the next episodes.
Also on the She-Ra side there is an almost marvel/fox style rights issues with this franchise but the prequel comic just introduced the horde so there is that
Horde Prime, Hordak, Imp, Mantenna, Leech, Mosquitor, Grzzlor, Rattlor, and Tung Lashor are part of BOTH the He-Man and She-Ra franchises as they were originally created for Masters of the Universe before being used in the She-Ra line. This is why they all appeared in the 2000s He-Man show too. Princesses of Power notably either didn't use or barely used any but the first 3 but they could have if they wanted to.
@@TheHobgoblyn
This isn't really that cut and dried. Dreamworks has the She-Ra Filmation characters, because the SPOP characters were designed by Filmation (and by SPOP characters, we mean the She-Ra toyline, the ones with brusheable hair). Hordak and the monstrous Horde members aren't technically She-Ra characters because they were created as par of the Masters Of The Universe show. Dreamworks probably had to pay Mattel for the use of Hordak.
@@Carabas72 There is a channel on TH-cam called Specter Creative or something like that by the guy who ran the MotU Classics line and has done a few videos explaining this.
The Dreamworks She-Ra show didn't use any characters that were strictly Filmation, only characters from the toyline. But the characters I noted are considered to be BOTH He-Man and She-Ra characters. Just like how Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were considered both X-Men and Avengers characters and that's why we got two versions of them in simultaneous movie franchises.
You make a very important point about this that I have been pointing out to people, and I am hearing nobody else saying.
The choices they made were the only way they could guarantee they could tell the two big story beats that the series always gets cancelled before they can even get to.
Teela's backstory.
The Preternia stuff that was where Mattel was planning to take everything.
So rather than just tell the same He Man story all over again, they skipped all of that because we know it already.
Even Scott Neitlich (the guy who ran and shaped the brand during its TV and Comics resurgence of the 2000s) thought it was good, and was downright jealous of some choices they made.
Though he did have some words on the sense of bait and switch most of the more vocal toxic fans felt happened in the marketing. Which really only caught you off guard if you were not really paying attention. It was pretty clear to me that the series was going to focus on Teela and Preternia. I just was not sure how they were going to enable that. Honestly...killing He Man off was the only way. It moved him out of the way, unloading most of the most cumbersome baggage (secret identity, for example), and gave a narrative reason to go to Preternia. It also made He Man even more heroic by having Adam give up his eternal afterlife gift. They did more with Adam/He Man and with Cringer in the tiny amount they were on screen than any of the previous shows did in their entire run.
I really wish that when Skeletor impaled Adam from behind and leaned in to whisper in his ear that Mark Hamill had said "Up an Adam/Up and at 'em". Would have been perfect, and the perfect synthesis of the original Filmation Skeletor and Hammill-tor.
I only personally know one person who didn't like it, and it's literally because they digest all this "anti-woke" crap 24/7. Everyone I know in my personal toy/geek community that is formed around my vintage toy business that has seen it thinks it was awesome. He's really the only outlier.
Seriously. Thank goodness most of the people aren’t as brain washed as that one person you know. I dont even get the why the term “bait and switch” keeps getting applied to this show? What's the “bait”? What was implied (and not assumed )? It sounds like a thought terminating phrase crafted by the people who do the outrage for profit thing, and aren’t even believable or subtle about it. You can tell from their hammy melodramatic thumbnails, and their pathetic acting that it’s pantomime. pantomime for what few coins they probably make off youtube
@@Getwright-
from what I've seen people claim the bait and switch to mostly come from more the promotional material and interviews from Kevin Smith. Smith was pretty adamant that this was for the fans and a He-Man show that was following the story of the original(which given the original didn't have much of a story anyway was probably a bit sus) and then when leaks came out that Teela was going to be the main focus Smith doubled down on this still being a He-Man show. Don't get me wrong there's a lot of the anti woke crowd just complaining about this show being too woke but I do think there's a fair criticism in how this was done. Having said that from what I hear the next part will focus more on Adam which is also probably why the show should've just been released all together or at least not that far from each other.
As someone who didn't grow up with He-Man, and hasn't watched the original series or played with the toys, I still quite liked the new Netflix show. It's was a fun romp with good animation and decent plot for the first half. I look forward to seeing where it goes.
I agree fully with this. They didn't HAVE to make it; we are privileged that someone even gave enough of a shit.
Exactly. Literally no one was asking for He Man. If you grew up with it you know the show was garbage, and if you didn't you probably didn't care. These reboots are FAR better than they have any right to be.
@@hobbes4011 Well I grew up with it, still have the toys and like what they've done now. In many ways the "2000x" (or original reboot) series was superior ...basically there's not much to dislike over the years. Make of that nostalgia-skewed opinion what you will.
I ENCOURAGE ANY SCHEDULE THAT GETS ME MORE BOB FASTER.
only as long as its safe and you rest enough 💜
He-Man is overpowered and the interesting stories are when he gets sidelined. So he's Saitama from One Punch Man!
I’m old enough to remember before there were silly debates between Superman vs. Goku, it was Superman vs. He-Man(Which for me it’s a more interesting discussion than the one with Goku).
That's exactly how they framed this, and I think that's makes perfect narrative sense. When your main character is grossly overpowered you can't just throw him at the problem immediately, you have to build up the narrative and the stakes so that when he does arrive it's the cathartic climax of the conflict. Or you give him a problem he can't punch to death, like when Skeletor tricked him into thinking he'd hurt someone.
Or The Incredible Hulk... his presence on the battlefield is an instant-win condition. Once he shows up and he's ready and rarin' to go, it's all over but the shouting.
Saitama is at least funny
I dunno on that. No one knows/ cares who Sitema is
I was really surprised by this show... It was never one of my favorites as a kid, and I never had any of the action figures, but I still enjoyed the nostalgia value of spotting all the different characters, and I thought the worldbuilding was kinda neat!
Bless you Bob for this vid. The "outrage" about the show is so freaking vile. We all know what these people mean.
I had to unfollow a few folks when this show dropped because they bought into that "outrage"
You know, if those people hadn't complained and made as much noise as they did, I would have skipped Masters of the Universe and went on my own way. But no, they had to make a stink out of the show, I heard about it and I just had to watch and see what's wrong with it. Turns out that the show was pretty good (70/100 for me), I enjoyed myself and I can't wait for the second half.
I was wondering why people were complaining I'm gonna go check this out cause it sounds cool
As a kid of the 80s I was shocked when you said it only lasted 2 seasons. Then I looked on IMDB and yes it only had 2 seasons but 130 episodes! Crazy how many they made in 2 years. Also, as much as I loved the 80s shows like He Man, Transformers, & GI Joe, I am jealous of 90s kids as children's TV got a LOT better overall then.
Yeah, TV show schedules were crazy back then. But by the same token the quality was shit. How many times in a single episode did they use that same walking from left to right animation? Ha! Now go back and include the flipped version where they walk from Right to Left too!
Speaking entirely personally, I did not like the show...but I did not dislike the show either. Like Bob, I never grew up into He-Man. I did not care for the original show or She-Ra (not until the new She-Ra - that one is actually rather enjoyable).
I did not think any part of this new He-Man was necessarily bad in any way. That said, I do not think that Kevin Smith heading it was the best choice. No, I do not think he necessarily did a bad job with it, but because he has that air of being the quintessential Gen X fanboy, it felt like there were too many overly predictable choices made (the marketing was not a factor at all to me).
That said, I will say that NOT focusing on He-Man was actually a pretty good choice, and when they started on bringing him back, the story going on around it actually was kind of good. There were interesting threads going there, like with the techno-cult - and holy sh^t, I did not expect that one around Orko, so good job there.
With the praise I will give now out of the way, I have to say that the ending of the last episode so far felt like a...well, this is the only way I can describe it... a "reverse Snoke" - an idea/event that could have had a significant impact but just made me go "...Okay?"
All in all, I will say that show, overall, just felt like a lot of missed opportunities (which, perhaps not so oddly enough, tends to happen when a fanboy handles it). Maybe it is due to She-Ra already being out for a while and REALLY delving into new and different stuff (and doing a pretty damn good job at it) and therefore lessening the impact for He-Man, but I will agree with Bob that the "controversy" is way overblown. It was just an overall slightly lackluster show that had a few good ideas but very little follow-through beyond them. It may still have some potential going for it...but only if that potential is focused on and polished, and that remains to be seen.
I come from the same place...never really cared about He-Man all that much. But I gave it a shot because I wanted to know how they would update such a stupid show. And I was first: Whut? More of the same? Then Oh, they really upset the Status Quo, that is interesting! and then ended up being all upset because the themes they set up were never really explored. Honestly, every time I thought "okay, now it gets interesting" they chickened out....
@@swanpride That was my entire impression of Black Panther. Like...don't pull punches on mature themes cause it just makes you look like a pandering coward at worst and comes off as 'studio interference' at best. I don't call them 'missed opportunities' I call it 'not following through with your punch in a street fight...get them elbows in there, lay it on me.'
@David Richardson How is the show a missed opportunity when this is only PART 1 of a ten episode arc. Look, your welcome not to like but to say it's missed opportunity because "fanboy bad" comes across as disingenuous. Just because Revelations borrows some familiar elements from the original show does NOT mean it doesn't do anything new or different or that it doesn't make any bold choices.
Btw, as much as I enjoyed Dreamworks She-Ra I don't think it quite measures up to the likes of Avatar: The Last Airbender or Steven Universe. Yes, the She-Ra reboot is a generally great show that transcends it's source material in so many ways, but I don't think it's has groundbreaking as others as made the show out to be.
@@moonlitebrite9317 First off, four words: "50 Shades of Grey."
Now that the bad joke is out of the way...
The show was not bad. Like I said in my original post, there were interesting choices made. Orko is the one that stands out the most to me, but aside from that one, nearly all of them were essentially abandoned before anything could have been done with them. Taking He-Man out of most of those first few episode was not a bad choice, and bringing up past champions was an interesting idea. However, the final moments of the last episode released so far bordered on being a bad "WTF." Sure, killing He-Man again would normally have been a good choice, but with how Evilyn went right back to how she was before immediately afterwards, after everything she had been through - including the rather obvious sense of betrayal she had felt when Skeletor revealed himself to have survived - it undercut the impact a moment like He-Man's second (and implied absolute) death should have had. Sure, she did not need to join the He-Man's allies at the end of the arc, but her dropping everything to rejoin Skeletor again felt completely forced, like something out of bad fanfiction, which is something that a fanboy would be more likely to write. That is not to say that a fanboy cannot write a good story out of what they are a fanboy of...but they tend not to. Kevin Smith's overall work was not bad - it was just a letdown, only mediocre.
And yes, I regularly check out fanfiction, because I have seen some genuinely well-written stories there ranging from comedy to action to drama to horror to even romance, but most are either just dumb or straight-up bad. To be fair, the comedy ones have the most breathing room as absurdity tends to lend well to humor, and a good romance requires a good understanding of character interaction (which most fanfics lack) so romance fanfics tend to be the worst ones - and this is even with ignoring the piss-poor grammar, which is especially rampant amongst the bad ones.
Revelations borrowing familiar elements from the original show is not necessarily a bad choice. It is supposed to be a continuation from the original, so that is kind of to be expected. And like I said, they did make some interesting and even bold choices, but aside from Orko, I can only think of one or two that they went all the way with. And sorry, but one or two phenomenal moments does not make a show better overall. And like I said, there is still a chance for the show to get better with the second part, but I have little reason to actually expect it. I can always be proven wrong, but I am not holding my breath.
And while I agree that the DreamWorks She-Ra was not that groundbreaking (it did have groundbreaking moments, but that cannot describe the whole show), it is still leagues better than Revelations so far - claiming that it is just "Part 1" is a pathetic attempt at an excuse. Sure, DreamWorks She-Ra is still no masterpiece like Avatar, but that is being grossly unfair to every show made after Avatar. Avatar is a great goal to ultimately have as a writer, but it serves a poor standard - when you compare to it, as a writer or as a viewer, everything else comes off as kind of sh^tty (even Stephen Universe).
@@DavidRichardson153 Er, I think it would be forced if Evil Lyn reformed right after Skeletor returned, she didn't team up with the good guys because she saw the error of her ways and change of heart. She teamed up with them because she HAD to, her experiences with them although important were purely circumstantial. If Evil Lyn is going to be redeemed it has to be based on something more than sentimentality, also it's very plausible that she's playing both sides for survival purpose and not because she "changed on a dime". As for killing He-man twice, to me it only raises the stakes and elevate Skeletor to legitimate threat, I don't think it was done purely out of shock value.
Again, as much as I enjoyed Dreamworks She-Ra (and hope there is Christmas cross-over with Dreamworks She-Ra and Powerhouse He-man), I do enjoy Revelation more than the She-Ra reboot.
Also, I said before you're welcome not to like it, but to me calling it merely dismissing the series as "fanboy fanservice" seems to dismissive and disingenuous. If fine if you think Part 1 of Revelation is mediocre but I think the series has too much going for it to simply rule it out as average.
Nah early 2000s Heman was good as hell lol
We can have two good things. 200X sadly was just not getting the eyes on it that the executives required of it.
I enjoy the early 00s MOTU. They started to tell an interesting story. Then the toys didn’t do so well, so they axed the show.
@@Darksmirk1 Sadly that is the fate of a show created with the primary purpose to promote the toy line when that toy line doesn’t “meet expectations”.
But as paying too close attention to the video game industry has taught me, a product “not meeting sales expectations” may have little to do with how successful it was; but instead be more tied to some arbitrary sales number some suit assigned it based on numbers provided by bean counters (none of whom care about the project for it’s own sake). Poor Dead Space. If you haven’t been eaten by EA…
I haven't had to hit "don't recommend this channel" on TH-cam so many times as I did with "lol woke he-man" videos the system kept recommending to me
Man I'm really lucky, that I already did that, when the She-Ra reboot came out. Funnily enough I had to do same with Owlhouse content, because I didn't want to be spoiled.
These are a disgrace to my generation, either Peter Pans who can't grow up or the TH-cam equivalent of meth dealers encouraging the same.
Maybe it pays metaphorically for me to have so many Left Wing TH-camrs in my subscriptions. I don't end up bombarded by bullshit.
For me it was Disney star wars. I didn't care for the movies, but having 4-5 new videos posted everyday about the "civil war" inside Lucas films made my homepage a toxic place until I discovered that button
@@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez idk my dude I am super far left and I saw a LOT of hate for the show that basically boiled down to WHY IS THE GIRL THE MAIN CHARACTER!!111!! There are a really annoyingly high number of conservatives in the animation fandom community that are big mad that cartoons are getting more representative of the real world. Wanna watch a GREAT show that makes their head spin? Try the owl house non-binary characters tons of lgbtq relationships in the main cast and the story is AMAZING!
Basically if you’ve pissed off THAT crowd, you’ve done a good job
I'm absolutely sure Kevin Smith did it completely intentionally. He probably laughed his as off at the hateful comments.
No, if you piss off that crown, your sales will decline.
I’m not the biggest Smith fan, but if you can piss off The Quartering, you’re alright in my book.
@@keychainere Then you're asking for a war that put one more nail in the coffin of Hollywood.
@@keychainere “sales will decline” they say as each franchise they complain about continues to make a jack ton of money.
I tried to like it. I really did. I never felt lied to. Kill He-Man? and make the show about Teela? SURE! I was ready to love this in spite of the internet hate. But.. unfortunately.. I still don't think it was very good.
Orco was fantastic! Best part of the whole show. The action was what I wanted. It genuinely felt like a kid smashing toys together over playsets. Characters got scars, the new girl was cool, the split sword got me excited.. There were a lot of really creative ideas put into this show.
Unfortunately, it ends up becoming a bad show with a lot of good ideas. I think it's a matter of presentation. A lot of good stuff put together in the wrong way can make things not work.
The voice work was disappointing. Teela's voice really didn't fit. No, I don't think "Mark Hamill phoned it in" and yes he has range, but the direction he went with for Skeletor just didn't work for me. And I'm no audio expert but it overall felt uninspired. Maybe they should have jam-packed it with 80s hits like the trailer.
Again, I was ready for the Tela Show.. but what she was given was poorly written. Her Arc was confusing and muddled. Her motivations were super forced. I was extremely excited for the split good and evil sword. Maybe Teela and Evil Lyn we're going to battle! Maybe they would get the opposite swords! and maybe.. oh.. It was just a fetch quest. ok..
I also think the way the time jumps and consequences were handled also ruined the fun. The events in episode 1 probably should have been a mystery. Like, Teela's upset, went loner, and we have to find out why through flashbacks. We could see that the world and its people have changed and then find out what happened as the stories unfolds. But, what they did was present Eternia the way we remember and then immediately changed it. This did end up giving me a feeling that they were just arbitrary tearing apart the world. I'm not saying thats what they did. I'm saying that's how I felt.
And I'm all for giving a He-man a Sailor Moon-esk magical rainbow transformation. But it wasn't Sailor Moon-esk. It just WAS Sailor Moons transformation!
Turn this video into a review. It is better better the internet Haye.
@@KazeShikamaru It's not much review. He only points out that a few things that he thought was awesome. His reviews are much more detailed.
The story is there, the dialogue and arcs are not. I feel Teela being the lead was poor choice, especially since they decided to make her dull as dirt compared to the other side characters. She’s got a bad disposition and it doesn’t come off as anti hero; just an unhinged poor sport a lot of the time. I was thankful when she wasn’t the focus and time was given to Evil Lyn, Orco, Moss Man, Robot-o and who ever else.
I shouldn’t feel that way, I should be cheering Teela on and hoping they can save HeMan or some shit. Instead I’m thinking, oh!! Let’s follow Tri-Clops and see his techno cult or let’s see Beast Man body guard Lyn…
@@Darksmirk1 I completely agree
Nailed it once again. Thanks for putting it in a way that makes perfect sense as always. I struggle with friends who immediately side with these outrage merchants. Sometimes you provide helpful ammo to shoot their shit down because your usually so spot on.
From a millennial perspective, I really liked MotU. I vaguely remembered he-man enough to get excited when I recognized a character or object, found the quest compelling enough, and my favorite characters--man at arms and orco--got a ton of love. 8.5/10, can't wait for part 2.
Thank you Bob.... you just restored my believe in humanity 😀
It is sad that 'old man yells at cloud' is applicable to so many topics these days.
Neither my wife nor I grew up in the era when He-Man was a thing so our only references to it were from pop culture and Robot Chicken. We loved Revelations, it was fun and weird and the characters had things to do.
I liked She Ra, and I liked this new He-Man show. But I think Teela isn't the same character, nor a good one at that, so the viewer has to tolerate her scenes in order to get to the "good" parts.
BOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! throw the schedule out of the window!!!!!!!!! put it out when it's ready
Between this, She-Ra and the new He-Man cartoon that's coming up, Netflix is officially staffed by massive MOTU fans 😅
The most honest video about motu on the internet 👏🏼👏🏼
Honestly, the only reason I have any kind of interest in this series is exactly because of what they did in the first episode. I have no nostalgia for the original series, and just having the same thing again but new wasn't reason enough for me to care. Now that they've turned the series' focus into something completely different I'm actually curious to watch it when I have the time.
Honest question: why watch a show about a character who’s not even in the show in the first place? Don’t you think that’s a bit odd?
Like, what’s the point of watching, say, Batman, if all you ever get is robin and batgirl?
@@CthulhuTheory Because if I do eventually watch the show, I'm not doing it out of attachment or interest towards He-Man. Like I said, I have no nostalgic attachment to them, so the fact the show does something unexpected and different is the reason I'm interested in it at all. Before that I just didn't care at all.
I wonder if Kevin Smith is tickled to be called a "patron saint". Feels like yes.
I was fine with Teela as the focus character. And I love when background characters get moved to the forefront. The problem was in the end, I didn't like Teela. She was incredibly selfish and her darkest fear is that she's too awesome. What?
Basic Mary-Sue.
@@The6thMessenger eh, she rode the line considering her lifetime of training and being captain of the palace guard for years. But she teetered to the side in the end.
As soon as they finally tell her she's the next Sorceress of Grayskull she's going to go full Rey Skywalker.
I don't know what "too awesome" means in a franchise where even the old men are built like Brock Lesnar and the main guy is ALREADY the born heir to rule the entire planet whose (other) big "burden" is turning into Super Saiyan Conan 🤷♂️
THANK YOU! They made Teela into 'Megan Rapino' with muscles. That's not the Teela I remember.
@@Launchpad05 Honest question: which version is more likely the result of being raised from birth to be a warrior who by the age of 20 was already the Captain the Guard in a place where physical melee combat is a major part of warfare?
I’m sorry you can’t jack it to the new version of Teela, but the lifestyle that creates the body type you’re looking for is not exactly combat focused, even more so when Sword play is at hand.
Have you ever lifted a Sword or shield? And I don’t mean your plastic play set ones, I mean a real fucking shield that can take a hit from a solid metal sword without splintering into a thousand pieces. And she does that with one hand!
This...needed to be said.
Speaking as somone whos never seen the orginal besides the ocastional clips and memes I've been enjoying this series so far. My only issue is it feels like a sequle to a previus series in the same style that never happened. That first episode was amazing and really helped me understand how people in the 80s must have felt watching the orginal for the first time. The problem is thats the only episode with the traditional setting before they get experimental. I really wish their was a previus series or movie in the same style showing off their ushal adventures so that the the sacrifice in revalations feels more impactful for people like me.
That's kinda how I felt as well, during the first episode I was getting into the idea of this incredibly whimsical weird world and experiencing what he-man was like but then it entirely sidelined all that stuff to be more gritty and melancholy. It felt a lot like Castlevania in it's tone.
@@Kaospyri I haven't seen Castlevania yet but I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. Would you still recommend Castlevania?
Brilliant, hit the nail 100% on the head.
Yeah, I used to be that way about Thundercats. I loved that show, but you go back now and it absolutely sucks. So when that anime-styled version came out, cool. When Roar came out, great. They're all ways of enjoying the "franchise" and people should be happy anyone still even remembers "He-Man" these days anyway.
My high school friends and I used to talk about how awesome the cartoons we watched as kids were. Then one time my university anime club did a retro night and showed a couple Thundercats episodes and I thought, "What were we smoking, this is awful!"
I was, at best, tangentially aware of He-Man back in the day. I binged the hell out of this series, *without* any nostalgia for the original content. It just throws you in, and expects you to keep up - and my GOD that Soundtrack! WOW. Wall to wall amazing, loved this show can't see what everyone's being a baby about.
As an aging nerd myself, i have to say that the best thing for controlling my nerd rage (and blood pressure) was understanding that I am not the target demographic for everything that comes out.
On a less personal note, if you are outraged by this version of He-Man then cancel your Netflix subscription, your opinion means nothing your money means everything.
We both know too many of these rage addicts won't cancel Netflix. Never mind there is a veritable galaxy of options for streaming services right now. But the FOMO is strong in this crowd.
@@johnathonhaney8291 How many of them actually watched the show, or even paid for a Netflix subscription in the first place? If they didn’t pirate it, they probably use Mom’s Netflix account.
@@MungkaeX Again, that is something we both know or at least suspect the true answer about. No respect for them nor pity for their growing irrelevance do I have, if I may be forgiven the Yoda speak.
As Henry Rollins said, I realize that at my age I'm in no one's target demographic. All people want to sell me is the hole in the ground, hardcore pharmaceuticals, and the best of Sting.
@@DerekScottBland In which case, they're failing to sell me on all three of those.
a little late but just finished the first half of the series w/ my wife.... I think we both really enjoyed it! definitely looking forward to the second half when it drops next month.
Oh hell! I've been waiting for this🤗
You called it perfectly!
Kinda missed the whole outrage on this one. Just watched it and liked it. If not for this vid, I would’t have been able to see what you could possibly whine about. Save for FEMALES doing a thing in stories, I guess.
Or you know, the main writer out right lying about the plot.
Yeah, the outrage was... actually fairly predictable. If you spend any time tracking and mocking Neo-Nazis and Internet sadboys, you can set your watch to when they'll be outraged... whether pretending or actually sincere, though it IS hard to tell those apart.
God, I wish TH-cam comments would allow me to post images, so I could just link that Quark picture.
@@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 Yeah, when the lead writer of the show out right lies about who the show will revolve around, backlash is to be expected. A great amount of backlash could've been avoiding b telling the truth.
@@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 I mean Tyron Magnus hated it, does he qualify as a Neo-Nazi? Pretty sure there are people of all ethnicities who hate this show...
All those multi ethnic White supremacists huh?
You know what Bob, I agree 100%.
Wait, people were bitching about this? I thought they did a good job. Not a She-Ra Princess of Power good, but a good job. The first episode I was waiting for the Irony to kick in, but there was none, it was just a firm status-quo of Eternia episode.... until the very end. Then on the second episode I realized what was going on, post-He-Man Arrested Development; And that is basically the whole series. What would Eternia be like if He-Man, Skeletor and magic were mostly put on ice and how would the rest of this world get on. Which is a decent thing to look into. How did the culture warriors get to "SJWs are stealing my childhood!" from that?
Of course people are bitching about this. They want to be taken seriously in spite of the continuing evidence that it's the last thing they deserve.
again, Bob speaks exactly what i've been thinking... well said, Bob.
The more I see The Fandom(tm) of anything blow up over whatever small, petty reason they choose to blow up over something, the more convinced I am that fandom was a mistake.
The fandom has every right to be mad at Hollywood right now. Social justice was a mistake. Not fandom.
@@Launchpad05 Still stumping for a conman like GandG I see. Quick question, how many of his videos lead to Kathleen Kennedy getting fired? Or nedrotic, or mecha, or bowlestrek, or ever other ass here?
@@SavageBroadcast Suckers who are being used as grist for the profit mill never understand they're the ones being played.
Always happy to see my boy the evil ghost of skeletor (later, evil ghost SERVING skeletor like they were annoyed we were misinterpreting the name)
Soon as I saw the big baby in the corner of the thumbnail I realized what this was going to be about. Lol, chuds can be so predictable sometimes.
Bob your video makes me sad. Cause it didn't mention mark Hamills as skeletor which was freaken awesome. He had some hilarious lines and some great over the top villany as well as some how still being terrifying when he needed to be.
The original He-Man cartoon was actual shite, but the toys were class and it made me want to play with them.
What, no mention of the mini-comics, also not that great as a whole but plenty of fun in its own right?
@@johnathonhaney8291 I never had the toys, I just used to play with them at a friends' house, and her parents threw all the packaging away. I didn't even know there were mini comics until this year when I started watching Specter Creative's channel.
@@greenisnotacreativecolour Ah, trust me, as a kid, they were the best part to me. And they've been collected into TPBs!
@@johnathonhaney8291 I feel like I missed out and now it's too late, but from what I've heard the people behind the line at Mattel were way more visionary than the people at Filmation.
I grew up with He-Man, and yeah, the cartoon sucks. The only things going for it are a kick-ass soundtrack and Skeletor, written and voiced by people who clearly had a blast with him.
You make me want to watch an extended toy commercial Bob
The rage babies ran out of material to complain about The Last Jedi and Captain Marvel so naturally they gravitated towards complaining about MOTU: R.
Please post everything Bob
We love your content
I would much rather you just put videos out when they're ready than stress about sticking to an arbitrary schedule.
The almighty TH-cam Algorithm DEMANDS a weekly schedule! Those who take time off without having back up videos prepared and scheduled for release shall lose their favor and be lost in the sea of obscurity; NOT EVEN YOUR SUBSCRIBERS will see your next video!!!!
In general I think they did a good job with the show. Nice to see a variety of characters getting attention. Awesome aesthetic and voice-acting.
I do agree with those who complain that it was too short and/or cut off at a bad place. Netflix's habit of cutting up animated shows really rubs me the wrong way. I go to streaming services to get away from these interest-destroying mid-season breaks.
I can't judge MOTU:R in its current state because of the cliffhanger. But I will say that I hope it ends with He-Man saving the day. That's what I want out of a He-Man story. But having He-Man absent for a long portion of the story I certainly don't mind. The people who feel this emasculates He-Man clearly have some issues they need to work through.
The outrage also ignores how many of the original Filmation episodes sidelined He-Man for one reason or another because He-Man by definition is an instant win button for the good guys.
And it’s not like Teela is some obscure character either. She’s part of the original Six line of toys and was in every episode of Filmation. She was in more episodes than Skeletor for god’s sake!!!
I finally watched the bloody series. But I watched the whole series and I cannot fathom what people hated. I enjoyed this love letter to the franchise.
Thanks for saying basically everything I wanted to say.
I will say that maybe the marketing of the series could have been in a way that didn't imply Revelations was a just the 80s cartoon with new animation
I had the video on a second screen mostly listening then turn back for like 1s to see the live action H-Man and Skeletor live action dancing. The perfect moment to look at the video XD
The show is ok. I think the early 00s show did a better job at delivering story; but they dropped it, even with its seemingly high popularity.
Didn’t care that Teela is the main POV of the show really; I’m more peeved that she’s entirely unlikeable. But it’s only 5 of 10 episodes. They could pull a character arch off nicely, I’m just unsure they actually will. I think a lot of peoples issues with the show started with K. Smith weaving a yarn about how it’s going to be a more story driven He-Man and denying the leaks ( which he should’ve ignored and not say anything about ) and then shoving He-Man to the side. Hell! Even Skeletor was underutilized.
As I understand it, if you don't think Teela's awesome then you're a bad person... or something? Not sure.
"The show is ok. I think the early 00s show did a better job at delivering story;"
Seriously? I've seen the first episodes of He-man from the early 00s, it wasn't that great.
The toys for the 2000s series didn't sell particularly well. And they required far more tooling than the original line did.
And since the only reason the cartoon existed was to sell toys, it didn't matter if the animation was well received if it wasn't doing that.
Besides-- it would have been tough to continue to the next logical arc without getting the She-Ra license. They could only use those 6 Horde characters and couldn't follow them to Etherea otherwise.
@@moonlitebrite9317 Didn’t say it was great. Said it did a better job at delivering story; It did. The new show is jump to the past, jump to the future story telling and it’s a weak story.
@@Darksmirk1 Er, it's weak story because there's flash backs?
I need to like this video 500 times. Thanks Bob. Glad I am a patreon supporter.
Can we just stop *caring* about some people not liking a thing? Like, no more articles about this or that segment of a fandom being upset by a new property? It's not news, because at this point it's a constant. Can't please all of the people all of the time.
I understand the sentiment, but I think it's important to call out people who are arguing and criticizing a work in bad faith (see for example how they were building the narrative before the actual show came out, thus priming the pump in terms of outrage). It shows that the negativity is in many cases not genuine and was to a significant degree *manufactured.*
Think of it from the perspective of an outside observer. They don't know much about the work; they only hear about it from social media. What they hear is a loud chorus of negativity. So for them, it's easy to be deceived into thinking that this volume represents something genuine.
The primary point of pieces like this is to help outside observers realize that the magnitude of the outrage is not being animated by genuine forces. That's not to say that any particular person's negative feelings are not themselves genuine, but the sum aggregate of this negativity (particularly as it appears on social media sites that love to signal-boost this stuff) is deliberately and disingenuously being boosted for political and financial gain.
This helps people distinguish between cases where the volume of outrage is actually warranted by something from cases where the volume is constructed.
@@GeneralBolas TL;DR We'd all like to ignore the outrage if these aging nerds would shut up for five seconds. I know I'd weep no tears over the silence.
If those people didn't turn around and start harassing the creators/cast and crew of these shows, then we could. Unfortunately they saw how much traction they could get when they ran off Daisy Ridley and Kelly Marie Tran, so we have to deal with these shitgoblins head on.
Is it just me or was Kevin Smith pitching a show or movie about Teela for decades?
I felt like this was inevitable and he did a great job in making the characters feel more three dimensiona than they've ever beenl because he's been thinking about this project for years.
Dude, I actually know people IRL who have decided to go the manbaby route on this one. Frankly, it's embarrassing bordering on depressing. Pretty sure I'm going to have to find some other friends to go see Clerks 3 with, the rate it's going.
You totally missed an opportunity for a Clue insert with the "GET ON WITH IT" gag 😜
The type of people who bitch about these reboots are the exact reason why in that Poochy the Dog episode of the Simpsons, the writers put in a scene where Homer dunks and roasts a hardcore nerd who asks a question nobody should care about followed by him withdrawing his question.
Pretty much. I don't even see why this non-issue is an issue with them. Do they feel like their masculinity is challenged when they watch a show that has a badass woman in it? Does that mean they hate the Alien(s) movies cause of Ripley? Do they hate Terminator 2, arguably one of the greatest films ever made, because Sarah Conner is this powerhouse of a woman who is still a caring a mother to her son and doesn't have to sacrifice her maternity or femininity to be a hardcore badass?
Why no boys you go ahead and be completely secure with your own sexuality not at all challenged cause you'd rather see a big, beefy, blonde haired muscle man wearing barely any clothes as opposed to a strong female lead doing cool stuff. I'm sure there's no issues at all with your identity.
I kid but still, why be bothered by this? I'm not mad I'm just confused and I want to understand it.
I gotta look that up sometime. I'd love to use that clip in a video.
He Man was never that important to me. But if something like this happened to Gargoyles I would act basically the same way. And you'd do exactly the same thing if it happened to your favorite franchise. And if it did you'd get the same treatment for your reaction as He fans are.
There's something important to you that is frivolous most other people. Imagine how you would feel if it was mutilated and turned into propaganda for an ideology that wants you to be a second class citizen. Imagine how Bob would react if the next Mario game was about Mario talking Peach out of aborting Bowser's rape baby using pro life arguments.
@@glenngriffon8032 why even ask questions if you answer them yourself? Of course everybody hates Aliens, of course everybody hates Terminator, of course everybody hates even edge of tomorrow, at least until you actually ask them
@@RuleOf18Clans something like this? You mean if a super badass Transformers series with high quality hand animation came out, helmed by someone who actually appreciates and understands the content, but sidelined Optimus Prime for all of two episodes to focus on side characters?
Because if that happened, I’d be all in. You’re being asinine because they spent time with a female character’s POV for a few early episodes, in large part because if He-Man was actually there the entire story wouldn’t have been long enough to justify the season. They didn’t minimize He-Man or reduce his importance. They just sat down and told a relatively interesting story that didn’t directly involve him.
This was a slam-dunk and I think it’s gonna come back in a bigger way!
First time I'm hearing about this masters reboot, what you showed looked neat as hell!
Well, you got all the "important" spoilers out of the way if you watched this video, so go see what you think! It's been very well recieved critically, just not by "fans". Boy O boy, don't wade into the fan backlash if you can help it.
Hop on that NetFlix machine now!! :) I really enjoyed it, and it's not a big investment of time.
agree! i am waiting for the rest of this saga...
would love to hear your thoughts on castlevania though
It was a great take that is still half way through, people just love crying about things they disagree with
More like they love to cry about things that don't appeal to they sensibilities. Irony is that those people cry about "cancel culture while wanting to cancel things that don't appeal to them.
So moviebob
@@Mecha82 The mature take: okay, this isn't working for me. I can tell it's good but it's not working for me. Glad it's working for you.
Informative and scathing, nice!
I remember watching He-Man when I was a kid. Preferred Fist of the North Star and Godzilla, but small human turns into overly macho warrior chosen one, destined to be King? Peak food for a small boy in a macho family.
I loved the first chunk of Revelations, exactly because they sidelined He-Man. That first episode was so awesome, they had to put He-Man on the bench because what else were you going to see for 10 episodes after he physically wrestled the powers of the universe? You think some pirates are going to threaten him? Would you be happier watching political intrigue?
Then there was *actual world building* where before there was close to none?
Was great.
Not perfect, a little lackluster on the finish, but overall I enjoyed it. I really hope there's more.
Yeah, these short “seasons”, “parts” or whatever Netflix is calling them suck. It is one hell of a cliffhanger to end on though. How can someone see that final 30 seconds and not have their jaw dropped through the floor wanting more?
Part of me wonders if the decision to cut this part here was an executive’s decision who would have taken a break after episode one when Adam dies if anyone let them.
I grew up on a diet of early anime and various other cartoons from across the world. He-Man feels underwhelming if you have seen shows like Harlock with real emotions and actual stakes.
@@rotwang2000 The original Filmation run was a bit on the shallow side compared to modern media, and quite a few things that were not readily available in the West; but for it’s time and where it came from it has a huge amount of Lore and continuity packed into what essentially was green lit as 30 minute commercial for the toy line.
It might not seem like it, but Filmation’s MotU raised the bar for the whole industry.
@@MungkaeX The exact show doesn't matter, if it hits you at the feels at the right age any particular show can be foundational. Mine happen to be mostly anime like Harlock 78, Ulysses 31, Captain Future or shows like Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea or even Thundercats, MoTU was mostly an "in between two more personally important shows" affair where their solid artwork had some appeal even if I had already graduated to better storytelling.
When. Its. Ready