@Matt S He explained later it was because they hit door with sledgehammer at start and corner of glass shattered and when it starts to break even in smallest way it's over.
@@ev6558 not necessarily. it could just be that it is the first stable unit that they have which is why they didnt have stuff available in converted stables before. the devs may have added the unit for the campaigns while not realizing that it would also appear in the stable in real games.
That what I think as well. Seems to be a bit too functional for something that was supposed to be a "mistake". And it does seem perfectly balanced anyway. It's a Knight without most of the good cavalry upgrades since attack upgrades are mostly late game and the defensive upgrades are the first ones you get during mid game. It's also meme-tier difficult to acquire the stables for it in a 1v1. Even if you manage to somehow get 1 or 2 you won't get massive waves of them out either. Even in a team game why would you have your Meso-american allies making bootleg Knights when you can just have a team mate with actual Knights and upgrades for them making them while they compliment them with their actual signature units like Eagles/Jaguars/Mayan Archers
@@zolikoff well it makes a serious amount of sense though. Like European Knights were so strong because they had that real strong Steel Armor, because they were searching for every little improvement. (the blacksmiths upgrades) But if you dont have these you are just what they had in the begininning.
There's also the Axolotl, a cute salamander like thing native to the exact same place where Mexico city is today, so it's almost extinct because of that.
Command & Conquer games generally had some great faction vs faction espionage and engineer mechanics when you took over buildings or stole research, it'd be great to finally see another game embrace that mechanic!
Don't forget Supreme Commander. You can use an engineer to capture an enemy vehicle factory. That enemy factory can then construct engineers of the enemy technology, which can build and upgrade buildings of the enemy's tech.
About the name: Xolotl means 'monster' in Nahuatl, language for the Aztecs and others Prehispanic cultures in Mexico. When Aztecs encountered Spanish conquistadores and their cavarly, that new animal was taken as some kind of monster, a mix between a deer and a javelina. That's why the called this new unit as Xolotl. Also, that pronunciation is correct: The X as in Chocolate and the TL as in Atlanta. Keep your hard work, dude. I love your videos and I love watching them, even though I don't play AoE anymore, it's just nice how you explain these things.
@@m3gusta17 Thanks for pointing out the mistake, autocorrect snuck that by me... XD Fixed it now. On another note, Infested Terrans from SC2 don't require you to capture a building you can't build in order to gain access to a unit you otherwise can't train. It's not the unit itself that reminds me of Infested Terrans from SC1, but rather the way you get them.
@@tonycezar1645 there are mods for this available for the 2013 released version of the game I expect you'll see them on Steam eventually for the DE version
You are amazing! I'm from Mexico, and you have pronounce Xolotl perfectly! By the way, Xolotl means Dog, especifically an endemic race of dogs, called "Xoloitzcuintle" from Mexico's valley used by Aztecs as companions and they belived they were guardians of the under world.
How about mounted jaguar warrior in castle too? It's more expensive and if it fall turn into jaguar warrior? It might be slightly op and expensive but require stable to unlock :D
This is a great new edition! They remind me of Civilization 4's graphics for mesoamerican knights. In that game the only thing stopping you from making standard versions of each unit is resource acquisition, so if you have horses and iron, you can make knights even as aztec/mayan/incan. So you get this somewhat anachronistic mesoamerican warrior with an animal helmet wielding a macuahuitl on horseback. I always thought they looked cool, and was sad that future civ games removed unique cultural appearances for non-unique units.
In the first version of Red Alert you could already make the opponents units and other things when taking over their buildings. I think it's a fun idea. It would mean you could gain acces to additional armor when converting a blacksmith. In Red Alert it was possible to build your enemy's structures too if you could take over a main building. I AOE it would translate to being able to build enemy buildings when converting enemy villagers.
It is a noteworthy that although in a normal game the Mayans can't access to Xolotl Warriors (due to the reason stated in the video), if given Stables in Scenario Editor, they can train Xolotl Warriors as well.
That Xolotl cavalry! Also 2:20 they attack faster than knights. I'd love to see this taken further, with converting enemy blacksmiths giving cav tech upgrades and adding mesoamerican bonuses that standard civs can gain from converting mesoamerican buildings.
The speed bonus for military buildings not applying to converted stables is working as intended. The converted building is still the old one. But that means it also keeps its former boni, thus if you convert a Hun's Stable, they'll be working 20% faster! The same is true for its HP if you get a Byzantine one as well (though that is more obvious).
This is actually in a way similar to Red Alert 2 where if you managed to sneak a spy into your enemies Tech Center it gave you a unique unit depending the opponents faction.
They should allow you to ALSO convert a enemy Blacksmith to gain access to the technologies horses and others use to more fully upgrade the Xolotl warrior. It would not be easy to do and would also have it's limitations with numbers created but it would make playing them more fun with more potential.
It's an interesting coincidence that you put up this video, because earlier today I was playing Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 and going out of my way to put spies in enemy buildings to gain access to unique units and veterancy upgrades, then capturing those buildings so that I can build some of the enemies units. So basically I'm saying I'd be pretty all right with the idea of some of the civs having a unique unit that can be built when capturing another structure.
The mechanic of conversion seems actually pretty dang accurate. There were a lot of mesoamerican people who converted to Christianity very early on and even before that worked with Europeans to overthrow the Aztecs. Likewise, Americans adopted European technology as time and cultural “exchange” happened.
@@williamjeffery9653 Would be nice if developers left Xolotls available as they are now, but made it so that Knights you train with all tech mode on look like Xolotls as well.
Actually having this little gimmick be expanded upon would be a nice buff for monks in general, since they are a very udnerused unit. I wouldn't even complain if the unit you get from converted buildings was way stronger than regular (like the campaign version instead of what we actually got). This would give players a real motivation to go for such tactics and to expect them from others, since there's a big reward waiting for you at the end.
Agree with your idea for a new mechanic, this would certainly spice things up. Slightly weaker Horses, Camels and Elephants for everybody (who is able to convert enemy buildings).
This is actually a game changer! Imagine player A being castle age monk rush by player B who is using a Mesoamerican civ. Previously, player A can safely stack light cav at the stable for a counter attack. Even if the stable gets converted, there are no consequences because the stable gives no strategic value to player B. Now, they would have to think twice when they hear wololo at their stable, or they risk facing one of the most powerful unit in castle age. Considering that Aztec and Incas are both good at monk rush, this is definitely a buff.
Meso civs that convert knights should have it change appearance to a xolotol with the same stats as whatever was converted. Would be kinda cool I think.
Now this is something they should do more often, unique units only available through converting buildings. Would greatly add to the depth of each civ and vastly increasing the utility of Monks by opening new strats mid match.
This reminds me of C&C Red Alert 2. If you capture the specific building from a different faction you not only have access to their troops but also some unique ones such as Chrono Ivan or Psi Commando.
I wish they'd do more with the building conversion mechanic. I think It would be awesome if when you convert a building, you can make any unit your opponent can make from that building, you could even up the stakes by making it so you get all the upgrades that the opponent has already gotten. (But only on units made in the converted building)
In a team game you could let your ally set up a stable next to you. Then send them the material costs as tribute, switch to neutral/enemy, convert it, switch back to allied.
The proposed ability to make Eagle Warriors from converted mezoamerican barracks reminds me of how capturing buildings in Red Alert 2 allows you to build stuff from that faction, or how Allied Spies give certain bonus techs for infiltrating enemy buildings.
Happy accidents is right! Some of the funnest and most competitive mechanics in video games have been bugs and side effects that were never initially intended, but end up being balanced in their own context with regards to the game! All while making the game funner and more popular for it's unique mechanics as well! Some notable examples being: -K style and animation "abuse" in GunZ: The Duel -Disjointing projectiles and stacking camps in DotA 1 (transferred into DotA 2) -Creeping camps in various ways that were not fully intended or foreseen in Warcraft 3 like Ancient of War creeping for Night Elves. -Combos in fighting games!
Following your theory about converting mesoamerican barracks and getting eagles, you could say you could also get a technology your civ doesn't have by converting an enemy's University, Blacksmith or other buildings with technologies your civ doesn't have.
I like the idea of getting civ locked units by converting buildings because it makes building forward buildings a risk. That would means not only could a meso get cav from an enemy stable, but maybe eagles from a meso barracks or elephants from indo china/india civ stable. maybe even steppe lancer from a steppe civ stable. It is not only not that uncommon to see forward production buildings but also forward raiding buildings. This now becomes a possible liability vs a redemption civ.
Due the facts that Xolotl Warrior is hard to come by,it should get upgrades depends on age to my opinion Like in Imperial Age,it should get all possible upgrade of what would best Knight Stat can they get And maybe automaticly upgraded themselves like Paladin Version maybe ?
We appreciate that 1) you correctly call them American civilizations 2) you pronounce "Xolotl" correctly, and 3) that joke "are you ready to accept Quetzalcoatl as your lord and Savior?" was pure gold. Keep up with the high quality content!
I got the game just recently like on april 2020, went directly to play that campaign and was so suprised about that neat detail. I think it would be awesome if the devs could try and implement some other kind of "convert" features.
I would imagine this isnt a mistake by developers and is intended, this is a pretty situational unit and the weakest knight in the game, so its not much of a buff, more of a flavour unit
You don’t necessarily have to go all the way to the enemy’s base. If they build forward stables, it would probably be easier to convert those, though you don’t get the benefit of having units popping out right in their base.
It's a really nice feature. Maybe one should think about a scaling from castle age to imp to make it pay off. I always thought the crossbow lines should be looking a bit differently (more authentic) according to the civs.
American civs get Xolotl because they get Horses from stables, they learn how to breed and train them. Xolotls are just jaguar wariors on horses. I think they schould get some special abbilities and stats. It would be great. Other civs can't get JW from american civs because they can't train their soldiers to be like jaguars. Also, i think that inf upgrades should apply to Xolotl because of what i've already said. They are jaguars on horses.
I remember seeing something about the devs intending for players to be able to toggle samurai between being archers and infantry, but it was too complicated in practice.
I agree. I definitely think they should make it easier to access than converting a stable. Like you said, all it takes is someone to notice and delete it. I think they were probably thinking about this more using computer players rather than human players. Hopefully it's improved!
Sometimes i wish to see the AU of our history if even just one of those great empires survived up to current day, or even the possibility of re-habitating old ruines of their cities.
Nashoo O no, como "sh". México era originalmente algo como "Meshico". *mind blown* El sonido de la J en la consonante X es una regla más moderna que no existía es ese entonces. Y los idiomas cambian con el tiempo.
cool little idea. now make the enemy unable to delete his building when it's being converted and we might get some interesting lil' playouts with these monks.
I was hoping for something like this. Historically there would collaborators that colluded with the Spaniards and Portuguese. I was hoping for there to be a new Meso civ that had a Meso gunpowder unit or a Meso cavalry unit. Glad that they added it :D
Neat idea: Maybe if the shared exploration technology is on by default, Portuguese team bonus can change to Meso civs being able to make stables. Not super OP since you can't upgrade. Would be a nice little historical thing.
Xylitol Warrior? 9 out of 10 Dentists will be thrilled.
And sugar free no less!
and we wont be drilled!
Fatal to dogs, though, so a great counter to wolves!
@@SirSpamaIot the mesos already have chocolate though
9 out of 10 Dentists will be killed.
It doesn't seem like a mistake, just a nice little easter egg.
@Matt S He explained later it was because they hit door with sledgehammer at start and corner of glass shattered and when it starts to break even in smallest way it's over.
It can't be a mistake, they would had to have specifically programmed all this stuff to work this way like building them from stables.
@@ev6558 not necessarily. it could just be that it is the first stable unit that they have which is why they didnt have stuff available in converted stables before. the devs may have added the unit for the campaigns while not realizing that it would also appear in the stable in real games.
A nice reference to how they stole horses to make their own riders. I think it’s a nice touch if it was on purpose.
"Ther is no mistakes just little happy accidents"
RIP Spirit of the Trade Routes
Long live Spirit of the La Hire
Reynald is attacking our caravan!
Crusaders are attacking our trade routes!
If you're not teamlocked in a multiplayer game an ally can gift stables to you by switching to neutral and then back again.
BIG BRAIN HOURS
This was exactly my initial thought after about 50 seconds into the video.
Regicide maps you can convert once the king is dead :)
@@Morgan_Black lol, I thougt that too at that exact at the same time as you.
Well that would be useful if the unit was good
They cant remove this, it’s so cool and unique
They most definitely did this on purpose, they won't
I don't get how this could be seen as a bug. Looks pretty intentional to me
its like infested terran in starcraft one
+1
I'm glad it's still on there
I didn’t think it was a mistake, just a hidden game feature.
I think it makes sense, I hope they don't remove it. However, it could be a little more unique than just a Knight copy.
I thought so too, some sort of easter egg, I think it's neat
Yeah, I don't know why he assumed it was a mistake. Seemed pretty intentional to me.
That what I think as well. Seems to be a bit too functional for something that was supposed to be a "mistake". And it does seem perfectly balanced anyway. It's a Knight without most of the good cavalry upgrades since attack upgrades are mostly late game and the defensive upgrades are the first ones you get during mid game.
It's also meme-tier difficult to acquire the stables for it in a 1v1. Even if you manage to somehow get 1 or 2 you won't get massive waves of them out either. Even in a team game why would you have your Meso-american allies making bootleg Knights when you can just have a team mate with actual Knights and upgrades for them making them while they compliment them with their actual signature units like Eagles/Jaguars/Mayan Archers
@@zolikoff well it makes a serious amount of sense though.
Like European Knights were so strong because they had that real strong Steel Armor, because they were searching for every little improvement. (the blacksmiths upgrades)
But if you dont have these you are just what they had in the begininning.
Aztec horses should get garland wars just cause it would be funny
agree on that. garland wars +4 attack should be for all melee units instead of infantry. not much. but it would be a thing.
I think they do get it, one time i was playing around with the editor and spawned pot imp elephants with aztecs and they got +8
@@shaggyblanco9898 I think scenario editor and skirmish are different
Kono dio da
Aztecs and Incas: "Is this the gift from gods?"
it is more lik, " hey look we find this weird animals inside the building we should use them".
Well Xolotl Is a god so ...
yo that thing is like a deer but beefy.
what if we too ride those?
A gift from Huitzilopochtli indeed.
Mayans: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Even if this unit will never show up in actual online games, xolotl is still an extremely fun word to say
Other two words like xolotl i rember are xochitl (flower), xochipilzawatl (It's the name of a song) and aguacatl (testicles and avocado)
@@Hu1tziil or xhocolatl (chocolate)
There's also the Axolotl, a cute salamander like thing native to the exact same place where Mexico city is today, so it's almost extinct because of that.
I mean, I'm Mexican so it's just another word for me lol :)
Xoloitzcuintle is a Mexican dog breed, and Xolos is the soccer team from Tijuana
It means "monster", "beast" and/or "animal".
Command & Conquer games generally had some great faction vs faction espionage and engineer mechanics when you took over buildings or stole research, it'd be great to finally see another game embrace that mechanic!
I thought of the same thing.
I loved sneaking spies and engineers into enemy bases in Red Alert 2
Playing as all the factions in the Command and Conquer games and as all the races in StarCraft Brood War was so fun and satisfying.
Chris Richfield - DUDE IKR
Don't forget Supreme Commander.
You can use an engineer to capture an enemy vehicle factory. That enemy factory can then construct engineers of the enemy technology, which can build and upgrade buildings of the enemy's tech.
About the name: Xolotl means 'monster' in Nahuatl, language for the Aztecs and others Prehispanic cultures in Mexico. When Aztecs encountered Spanish conquistadores and their cavarly, that new animal was taken as some kind of monster, a mix between a deer and a javelina. That's why the called this new unit as Xolotl. Also, that pronunciation is correct: The X as in Chocolate and the TL as in Atlanta.
Keep your hard work, dude. I love your videos and I love watching them, even though I don't play AoE anymore, it's just nice how you explain these things.
Luis Alberto Rosales de la Mora do you know if there are Aztec reenactors?
X is actually /ʃ/ as in ship. As far as I know it's like that in all dialects.
Chocolate doesnt have X in it actually.
@North Side Blu-Ray but it doesnt have X in it.
Mm noo , no cierto >:|
0:52 Hello, are you ready to accept Quetzalcoatl as your lord and Savior?
Neigh!
1111111111
ROFL
This reminds me of Infested Terrans from Starcraft 1.
Live for the swarm!! Ready to chill..
Haha, nicee
they also have Infested** Terrans in SC2 as well haha
@@m3gusta17 Thanks for pointing out the mistake, autocorrect snuck that by me... XD
Fixed it now.
On another note, Infested Terrans from SC2 don't require you to capture a building you can't build in order to gain access to a unit you otherwise can't train. It's not the unit itself that reminds me of Infested Terrans from SC1, but rather the way you get them.
Last time I was this early, Aztecs got Tarkans in the campaign
Last Time I was this early, Aztecs were a new civilization.
Last time I was this early Epstein didn't kill himself.
Diegoshadow xD lmao
Nice original comment
@M・4・8 Because of how ridiculous is thinking that Epstein offed himself and pushing that agenda by media and politicians obviously involved with him.
“Hello horses, are you ready to accept Quetzalcoatl as your lord and savior?”
Best of video 😂
Neigh!
So funny
konniks: Aw hell no!
I love how american civs can't get horses, but crossbows and champions clad in metal armor and wielding greatswords? Yeah those are fine.
You can imitate tech, but you need horses to get horses.
I wish some units like the ones you said, had unique visuals for some civs
@@tonycezar1645 This!! It's weird to see infantries (militia-line and pike men-line) on Japanese, or other civ wearing western armor style.
@@tonycezar1645 there are mods for this available for the 2013 released version of the game I expect you'll see them on Steam eventually for the DE version
@@colbunkmust oh really? thats cool, modding community always one step ahead!
Xolotl just like one of my favorite animals axolotl, such adorable creatures.
It would be fun to have an Axolotl Warrior.A Jaguar Warior mounting a huge Axolotl lol
xolotl is different from axolotes
@@DarknessTemplar6 "Xolotl JUST LIKE axolotl..."
thanks alotl
@@kR-qj7rw haha xD
“Devs don’t make mistakes, they just have happy accidents”. Lol
Tell that to my infinite loop as I have to restart my computer to break it... *Hits Ctrl-Alt-Del again*
You are amazing! I'm from Mexico, and you have pronounce Xolotl perfectly! By the way, Xolotl means Dog, especifically an endemic race of dogs, called "Xoloitzcuintle" from Mexico's valley used by Aztecs as companions and they belived they were guardians of the under world.
Oh the meme and mastapiece potential on this...
our meme lord vipah has already said he will do something with this
if they had the konniks dismounting bonus that would be rather cool
Yeah that would be pretty cool.
How about mounted jaguar warrior in castle too? It's more expensive and if it fall turn into jaguar warrior? It might be slightly op and expensive but require stable to unlock :D
Aaaayyyy he took that one dude's suggestion right on!
So, the new meta is:
- You build a few stables in your allies base.
- Then he changes diplomancy.
- To convert the stables.
- PROFIT
@Афанасий Сырков Mesos are top tier 1v1 already though, so let's not do that
Don't forget to reverse the diplo change :P
This is a great new edition!
They remind me of Civilization 4's graphics for mesoamerican knights. In that game the only thing stopping you from making standard versions of each unit is resource acquisition, so if you have horses and iron, you can make knights even as aztec/mayan/incan. So you get this somewhat anachronistic mesoamerican warrior with an animal helmet wielding a macuahuitl on horseback. I always thought they looked cool, and was sad that future civ games removed unique cultural appearances for non-unique units.
if you make only one, you get "axolotl warrior"... ok bye
In some MegaRandom games, I'd get a Meso civ with a Stable. Apart from looking cool, I had no reason to enjoy having it - until now.
They need to keep this just just because of the novelty. And it actually makes a lot of sense!
In the first version of Red Alert you could already make the opponents units and other things when taking over their buildings. I think it's a fun idea. It would mean you could gain acces to additional armor when converting a blacksmith. In Red Alert it was possible to build your enemy's structures too if you could take over a main building. I AOE it would translate to being able to build enemy buildings when converting enemy villagers.
I just heard about the rumor myself. I was just thinking I hope Spirit of the Law makes a video on this! What timing
Love the AOE series, so happy to see RTS games re-emerging!
This is actually a cool detail. I'd love to see a new feature rise out from this as you said.
It is a noteworthy that although in a normal game the Mayans can't access to Xolotl Warriors (due to the reason stated in the video), if given Stables in Scenario Editor, they can train Xolotl Warriors as well.
That Xolotl cavalry! Also 2:20 they attack faster than knights. I'd love to see this taken further, with converting enemy blacksmiths giving cav tech upgrades and adding mesoamerican bonuses that standard civs can gain from converting mesoamerican buildings.
The speed bonus for military buildings not applying to converted stables is working as intended. The converted building is still the old one.
But that means it also keeps its former boni, thus if you convert a Hun's Stable, they'll be working 20% faster!
The same is true for its HP if you get a Byzantine one as well (though that is more obvious).
-Mom, can we get Knights?
-We have knights at home
Knights at home: ⬆️
She never said you could upgrade them
This is actually in a way similar to Red Alert 2 where if you managed to sneak a spy into your enemies Tech Center it gave you a unique unit depending the opponents faction.
A neat reference to history rolled into a niche but interesting mechanic.
They should allow you to ALSO convert a enemy Blacksmith to gain access to the technologies horses and others use to more fully upgrade the Xolotl warrior. It would not be easy to do and would also have it's limitations with numbers created but it would make playing them more fun with more potential.
“It’s not a bug it’s a feature”
"It's not a bug it's a [horse]" :D
It's an interesting coincidence that you put up this video, because earlier today I was playing Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 and going out of my way to put spies in enemy buildings to gain access to unique units and veterancy upgrades, then capturing those buildings so that I can build some of the enemies units.
So basically I'm saying I'd be pretty all right with the idea of some of the civs having a unique unit that can be built when capturing another structure.
The mechanic of conversion seems actually pretty dang accurate. There were a lot of mesoamerican people who converted to Christianity very early on and even before that worked with Europeans to overthrow the Aztecs. Likewise, Americans adopted European technology as time and cultural “exchange” happened.
This gaining of tech when converting is brilliant !!
Can American civs train the Xolotl Warrior in All Techs?
im also interested in that
Mechanically better? Yes. Stylistically better? Not at all. Style is the true endgame.
@@Jeff_the_Hobo It'd be nice if they got both, but thanks for the reply
@@williamjeffery9653 Would be nice if developers left Xolotls available as they are now, but made it so that Knights you train with all tech mode on look like Xolotls as well.
@Lincoln Six Echo Well wasn't that the point of all tech mode?
This should definitely stay in the game. I love it.
0:53 I laughed out so loud my family thinks I'm crazy. Thank you SotL!
On of my favourite things to do in red alert was to capture enemy production buildings and make their units. This kind of feature is really cool
Actually having this little gimmick be expanded upon would be a nice buff for monks in general, since they are a very udnerused unit. I wouldn't even complain if the unit you get from converted buildings was way stronger than regular (like the campaign version instead of what we actually got). This would give players a real motivation to go for such tactics and to expect them from others, since there's a big reward waiting for you at the end.
The Xolotl Warrior: It's better than nothing!
That would be so cool, to have access to even more unique units or even technologies when converting other civilizations buildings !!
Spirit's Xolotl video > T90's Xolotl video
Fight me ;)
This was my favorite mechanic in Command and Conquer games. Being able to make enemy/special units is super satisfying.
Should be able to upgrade if you cap their smith
I really don't think this was a mistake and imagine it was deliberate.
Agree with your idea for a new mechanic, this would certainly spice things up. Slightly weaker Horses, Camels and Elephants for everybody (who is able to convert enemy buildings).
This is actually a game changer!
Imagine player A being castle age monk rush by player B who is using a Mesoamerican civ. Previously, player A can safely stack light cav at the stable for a counter attack. Even if the stable gets converted, there are no consequences because the stable gives no strategic value to player B.
Now, they would have to think twice when they hear wololo at their stable, or they risk facing one of the most powerful unit in castle age.
Considering that Aztec and Incas are both good at monk rush, this is definitely a buff.
Kwan Kiu Chan good point! Still only the atk upgrades are availablw to them.
Meso civs that convert knights should have it change appearance to a xolotol with the same stats as whatever was converted. Would be kinda cool I think.
Dude this was a gnarly break down! I love you.
I'd like to see a video in which the emblems of all the civilizations are presented with a brief explanation about their origin.
Kurt Eugen Graf von Stuart-Schleicher good idea!!
"Happy accident?" This makes no sense. Clearly on purpose.
0:51 " Hello Horses, are you ready to accept Quetzalcoal as your loard and savior "
So, basically Meso-American knights? Ok - nothing to get worked up about: my archers can still take them out quickly.
American knights
Now this is something they should do more often, unique units only available through converting buildings.
Would greatly add to the depth of each civ and vastly increasing the utility of Monks by opening new strats mid match.
This reminds me of C&C Red Alert 2. If you capture the specific building from a different faction you not only have access to their troops but also some unique ones such as Chrono Ivan or Psi Commando.
I wish they'd do more with the building conversion mechanic. I think It would be awesome if when you convert a building, you can make any unit your opponent can make from that building, you could even up the stakes by making it so you get all the upgrades that the opponent has already gotten. (But only on units made in the converted building)
In a team game you could let your ally set up a stable next to you. Then send them the material costs as tribute, switch to neutral/enemy, convert it, switch back to allied.
It's not a bug, it's a FEATURE!
Just call it the SOTL warrior
I'm so fucking happy for all this new life injected into this 20 year old game, I love your videos man
I hope Age of Empires 2 never dies
Kinda reminds me of the Spy of C&C Red Alert 2
Reminds me of the infested terrans from starcraft 1.
Came here to say this
In SC1 as zerg you could mind control a SCV or Probe and build their respective buildings and units with seperate population count.
@@versaleyang was is Zerg? I thought it was only Dark Archon but I'm not an expert of SC1 so I'm not sure.
Dark archons weren't around in SC1
@@logeye888 Archons were added in Brood War, which is an expansion of sc1
The proposed ability to make Eagle Warriors from converted mezoamerican barracks reminds me of how capturing buildings in Red Alert 2 allows you to build stuff from that faction, or how Allied Spies give certain bonus techs for infiltrating enemy buildings.
I like that it's there, it's a cool little new theme
Happy accidents is right! Some of the funnest and most competitive mechanics in video games have been bugs and side effects that were never initially intended, but end up being balanced in their own context with regards to the game! All while making the game funner and more popular for it's unique mechanics as well!
Some notable examples being:
-K style and animation "abuse" in GunZ: The Duel
-Disjointing projectiles and stacking camps in DotA 1 (transferred into DotA 2)
-Creeping camps in various ways that were not fully intended or foreseen in Warcraft 3 like Ancient of War creeping for Night Elves.
-Combos in fighting games!
Following your theory about converting mesoamerican barracks and getting eagles, you could say you could also get a technology your civ doesn't have by converting an enemy's University, Blacksmith or other buildings with technologies your civ doesn't have.
I like the idea of getting civ locked units by converting buildings because it makes building forward buildings a risk. That would means not only could a meso get cav from an enemy stable, but maybe eagles from a meso barracks or elephants from indo china/india civ stable. maybe even steppe lancer from a steppe civ stable.
It is not only not that uncommon to see forward production buildings but also forward raiding buildings. This now becomes a possible liability vs a redemption civ.
Due the facts that Xolotl Warrior is hard to come by,it should get upgrades depends on age to my opinion
Like in Imperial Age,it should get all possible upgrade of what would best Knight Stat can they get
And maybe automaticly upgraded themselves like Paladin Version maybe ?
Excellent Choice!
We appreciate that 1) you correctly call them American civilizations 2) you pronounce "Xolotl" correctly, and 3) that joke "are you ready to accept Quetzalcoatl as your lord and Savior?" was pure gold. Keep up with the high quality content!
But he said meso
can you change alliance in team game to convert team members stables?
I got the game just recently like on april 2020, went directly to play that campaign and was so suprised about that neat detail. I think it would be awesome if the devs could try and implement some other kind of "convert" features.
I would imagine this isnt a mistake by developers and is intended, this is a pretty situational unit and the weakest knight in the game, so its not much of a buff, more of a flavour unit
You don’t necessarily have to go all the way to the enemy’s base. If they build forward stables, it would probably be easier to convert those, though you don’t get the benefit of having units popping out right in their base.
I made some Xolotls in my last ranked team game, after beating one opponent and having easy access to their stables. It felt awesome!
They should receive Couriers, Garland Wars, El Dorado and finally Maya should get redemption.
It's a really nice feature. Maybe one should think about a scaling from castle age to imp to make it pay off.
I always thought the crossbow lines should be looking a bit differently (more authentic) according to the civs.
American civs get Xolotl because they get Horses from stables, they learn how to breed and train them. Xolotls are just jaguar wariors on horses. I think they schould get some special abbilities and stats. It would be great. Other civs can't get JW from american civs because they can't train their soldiers to be like jaguars.
Also, i think that inf upgrades should apply to Xolotl because of what i've already said. They are jaguars on horses.
Damnit when i saw the title i kind of hoped they were riding axolotls....
Eventhough im now devestated your video is great as always, keep it up sotl
3:48 if you look at the burning stable. That horse is chilled as fuck. Doesn't give 2 shits about anything.
Got to see them in action at the Red Bull Wololo. Mr_Yo is such a mad lad!
What about Ninja,Mounted Samurai and Iroquois Warrior? Now some say its editor only,but the wiki says trainable.
I remember seeing something about the devs intending for players to be able to toggle samurai between being archers and infantry, but it was too complicated in practice.
@@h0m3st4r thats a different story mate.
The barracks thing could be awesome, like dark archons on starcraft which using mind control can convert say a drone and start your own zerg colony
This is one of the best changes/addons they did.
I agree. I definitely think they should make it easier to access than converting a stable. Like you said, all it takes is someone to notice and delete it. I think they were probably thinking about this more using computer players rather than human players. Hopefully it's improved!
Sometimes i wish to see the AU of our history if even just one of those great empires survived up to current day, or even the possibility of re-habitating old ruines of their cities.
Spirit of the Law: Xolotl
Me, a Mexican: Allow me to intruduce myself
*dabs in nahuatl*
La "x" se deberia pronunciar como una "j"?
Shallot?
Nashoo O no, como "sh". México era originalmente algo como "Meshico". *mind blown*
El sonido de la J en la consonante X es una regla más moderna que no existía es ese entonces. Y los idiomas cambian con el tiempo.
@@barbarianjk2355 wow no tenia idea, gracias buen hombre
im just kinda psyched they put in an easter egg unit! thats awesome!
Aztecs and Incas: (happy because they get a expensive calvary unit)
Mayans: What are you celebrating, guys?
cool little idea. now make the enemy unable to delete his building when it's being converted and we might get some interesting lil' playouts with these monks.
I was hoping for something like this. Historically there would collaborators that colluded with the Spaniards and Portuguese. I was hoping for there to be a new Meso civ that had a Meso gunpowder unit or a Meso cavalry unit. Glad that they added it :D
Neat idea: Maybe if the shared exploration technology is on by default, Portuguese team bonus can change to Meso civs being able to make stables. Not super OP since you can't upgrade. Would be a nice little historical thing.
apparently the xolotyl warrior is still technically an infantry unit because he gets the garland wars +4 bonus attack