1495 Syphilis Outbreak: The Deadly Disease That Swept Across Europe | The Syphilis Enigma | Timeline
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- In 1495 a new disease hit Europe. It was deadly, devastating and attacked those who were promiscuous, well-heeled and well-travelled. But what was Syphilis and where had it come from? The traditional view has been that syphilis was part of "the Columbian exchange" - one of the things, along with tobacco and the potato, that the New World gave the Old. Arriving in Spain in the 1490s with Columbus and his crew, this destructive new plague spread quickly across Europe, leaving no country, no city, no royal household untouched. But what if this assumption is wrong? There is evidence of syphilis in skeletons dug from sites in France, Italy and England. Bones found in a medieval graveyard in Hull show signs of the ravages of syphilis. But if syphilis was present in Europe before Columbus went to America, why was the 1495 outbreak so deadly? And why did everyone see it as an entirely new plague?
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Is it possible to get the soundtrack for this one? Unusual and great!
The ads giving me syphilis
Amaro Miguel Ángel so syphilis came from when Spain invaded and took over part of the americas, syphilis was known and very harmful to some who had never been exposed to it. So in a way yes syphilis did come from America but Europe and Spain had it first. Meaning that Vikings could’ve brought it over but Spain had it first.
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As a Native American, I find it rather strange that this documentary was trying to say that the Natives gave syphilis to the Europeans, because our Native history says it was the other way around.
Through genetic codes found in the specie, the pathogen was found in South America.
You are right. Europeans gave syphilis to the Natives along with a lot of other diseases like small pox.
Oh your native history ? written in what characters in which language ?lol
@@mary-louellenaroberts3932 Yup, those diseases had already ravaged Europe, back when we domesticated animals and stopped living in tents.
@@mary-louellenaroberts3932 And communism.
The music is like syphilis of the ears
Lmfao!!
Barry Ross lol
😂😂😂
A musical score without using any musical instruments.... They must have recorded it in a subway somewhere, or Bedlam....
Perfect! Haha
I asked my grandfather, who was born in 1930, what the biggest difference was in society between his childhood and now. I was expecting him to say something like the internet or smart phones. He didn’t even have to think about it, and his response surprised me: syphilis. He said syphilis was the biggest difference between his youth and now, because he remembered seeing the syphilitic people on the street, with sores on them and behaving erratically because of the way the disease impacts the brain in later stages. Blew my mind because this was not an answer I expected-we have eradicated it so successfully thanks to antibiotics (which weren’t around in his childhood, obvi) that I think the average person can’t really understand how drastically that impacted our societies in the past.
And in reports that I've seen is coming back in a huge way infecting a lot of people in the US.
Today, we consider medicine of first half of the 20th Century, 19th Century, and further back in time to have been primitive and barbaric, and understandably so. However, in sharp contrast, if the real future is a good future like that of Star Trek and the Seth MacFarlane science fiction show, The Orville, then in the 25th Century, people will consider our early 21st Century medicine to have been primitive and barbaric and also understandably so!
Antibiotic resistant syplis, is on the raise. So just a matter of time till it comes back in a big way.
Zombie apocalypse
Syphilis is alive and still rampant, our city has been publicly advertising to get the message out to get checked. and treated. Yuck 🤮
Man I wish this type of stuff was on the History channel instead of Ice Truckers or some other bull. This is history. Awesome video.
To be fair the ice road truckers are pretty badass. I could do with less Ancient Aliens, though. That's just weird.
Totally. History channel used to be so cool.
Can’t distract the masses and convince them to not look around if you teaching them things of value and knowledge. They need mindless drones that think the government is God to do what they do 😮
It is shocking in that first skeleton that the person lived so long with Syphilis that those deformaties went into his bone. What a terrible life. So much suffering.
those were bullet holes.
Syphilis was so common that you didn't really blink when you were diagnosed. This is also why virginity was so prized in medieval Europe.
They also mentioned at the beginning that he was estimated to be between 25 and 30 years old...so he must have gotten the disease sometime in his teens, maybe? What a terrible waste.
Which is why they wore the BIG HOODIE. Remember Death and Ebenezer Scrooge? ZIT-hiding Makeup base was expensive back in the day.
Its' called Latent syphillis
This documentary left out a very important fact about the transmission of syphilis. Syphilis wasn't only transmitted through sexual intercourse. One could easily contract syphilis by touching these terrible syphilis sores called chancres. One could have had accidental contact with any of the chancres on a patient with syphilis, who was in the active stages of this disease. We need to remember that disposable exam gloves were not used in direct patient care and with any activity involving bodily fluids, until the early 1980s. This was probably in response to worldwide HIV/ AIDS and Hepatitis B. Reusable surgical gloves which were cleaned and re-sterilized, were used--, then sized, sterile, disposable wrapped surgical gloves came out later.. These were only used on surgical cases, strict aseptic procedures, and in all internal exams.
No gloves were used in starting I.V.s, drawing blood, regular patient care, examining patients, cleansing debris, rashes, vesicles, boils, or chancres, and emptying bedpans, urinals, or Foley catheters, before the 1980s.. Antibiotics only came into use in the later part of the 20th century. Penicillin, discovered by Dr. Fleming in St. Mary's Hospital, London in 1928, and was researched at Oxford. Penicillin was first used on injured Allied soldiers with wounds in World War II. Purified Penicillin in large doses was never used on a live civilian patient until 1942 in New Haven Hospital in Connecticut, U.S.A., when Anne Miller's life was saved, using large doses of Penicillin to treat "blood poisoning" from an infection, following a miscarriage.
It was a well known fact that huge numbers of nuns and monks who cared for the diseased, the sick, the poor, and those who were afflicted with syphilis, leprosy, and also, the Bubonic Plague, contracted these diseases of those whom they cared for,. and they usually died from these diseases.
This is truly horrid history! Syphilis was a highly contagious disease! There is somewhat of an insidious undertone of this documentary. Many of these men and women gave there lives in the service of Christ! Let’s not forget that fact.
Thank you
The cure for syphilis called Salvarsan was developed in 1906 though.
To say syphilis is only caught by sexual activity is ignorance. It is ridiculous and pure conjecture.
These monks took care of people who had the disease.
They want to make the documentary sensational. A bacteria can be spread by contact with the blood of those affected. And since they didn't have the sterile environment we have today. To be infected with syphilis if they flagttulated themselves they would have had open wounds and wearing rough homespun habits their backs would have been itchy and they would scratch themselves a perfect environment for syphilis.
@@sandrastevens4418 We must be open to both ideas, though we would like to think these monks were true, history has shown is that all man can be corrupted even those most devoted to GOD, there is no proof that sexual intercourse did or did not take place, but at the same time syphilis is highly contagious and and can be contacted quite easily. We must keep both ideas open to further evidence.
The monks and monasteries were the long term care facilities of that time. It afforded the seclusion and necessary health care services for most likely the rich merchants and when they died what wealth they had was endowed to the monastery. This would definitely explain why so many skeletons had signs of serious disease. We shouldn’t assume these were the bones of the monks but instead their patients.
Most healthcare was provided by the local herbal healers or barbers or veterinarians especially for the poor. Trained and licensed doctors or hospitals were rare unless you lived in a large city.
And the medical training back then didn't amount to much.
Shouldn't discount monks being apart of the skeletons either
Excellent information.
Yeah this documentary makes a lot of assumptions about the friars, good otherwise.
First thing I thought. Since there were so many with such advanced disease. I bet they went there for care and to die
Good God, the person whose skeleton had these horrific lesions suffered unimaginable agony. Hundreds of years later, you can’t help but feel pity.
Yes ! That’s literally infection eating away at the bone 😢 imagine how horrible their skin must’ve looked and felt. For comparison, image how bad it hurts when we have any type of infection.. can’t imagine what it was like back then w no pain medication
Does the disease continue to eat the bone after death?
@@vicvega3614 That’s a good question.
@@vicvega3614 Hopefully.
@@vicvega3614 no, those changes all happened during his life.
I don’t understand the background noises. I’m trying to watch a documentary. Not have nightmares. 😭😭😭
Lynda Anthony my thumbnail?
Emiline Bellé think she meant the video’s thumbnail
I know right? Those sounds are morbid 😨😰
That music is Fing scary!
Hahaha I agree!
The sound editor was told he would be working on a serious historical medical documentary and immediately thought: "weird wolf howl sound mixed with creepy off note string instrumentals and female Celtic chants all crammed together then played over and over again with a few bells and light awkward percussion will be a great match for this subject matter"
Maybe he was inspired by Ross
from Friends??
😃😊😁
It was made in the 90s. This is pretty normal for things from the 90s. Honestly at the time it didn't sound as weird as it does now 😂
Lol yes I was waiting for a dinosaur.
@@Zyxwvutsrqponmlkjih how far we have come 🤣
@@danielmccallon7033 😂😂😂
I was a correctional officer. I watched an inmate go through it all. When his mind began being affected it was quick decline. He began smearing his own feces on the walls of his cell. We transferred him to the isolation unit. I could be talking about his childhood as clear minded as you and me. Then in a moment he would be trying to bite the nurses. After just a few days he died.
@@BB-xx3dvonce it hits a certain point it cannot be treated. You have to get treatment quickly. It takes yearrrrrs to get to this point so this person probably ignored it for a long time. This is common with most STDs though, this one’s just one of the deadliest 😮 keep your legs CLOSED 😂
The fact that human psychology looks for somebody to blame for the matter of sicknesses is truly mind-blowing to me
look what's happened with covid.
@@catherinewheel4851exactly - the entire world was conned and blamed China when we know the Deep State elites unleashed it upon humanity.
It’s not just blame though, it’s the why and how.
@@Sirdoolanand it's lies don't forget
And also the whyte European EGO had to blame some dirty populace and how convenient to blame those indigenious of darker skin!!!
Next time don't hire someone with syphilis to compose the soundtrack
They could have used some of Beethoven's symphonies to the same effect.
Haha
Hahahah
Best comment. 😎
Seriously. I stopped watching around the 12th time they played the audio clip of distorted screaming.
I’m always amazed at the number of scientists and historians who refuse to believe any information that doesn’t conform to their own personal viewpoint. As lifelong students of these fields we are supposed to be open minded- and yet so many aren’t! That is why history and science often moves at such a slow pace.
I am so glad that you stated that. A lot of time science may have been disproved yet the so called facts will be used because no one wants to challenge the status quo.
It doesn't surprise me in the least. Careers are built on discoveries and ideologies. Archeology is HEAVILY corrupt as an institution.
I'm not talking about the average archeologist, especially those out on the dig sites. I'm talking about the institution. New information crops up the puts a previous idea that "Sir/Lady SoAndSo" built their entire legacy on. A combination of monetary incentive, ego, and the hubris of the institution conspire to keep that information muzzled.
Just look at how we thought Knights were. Once upon a time, it was believed they were trundling idiots that could barely move in their armor. Despite historical recreations of said armor being worn in modern sporting events (yes, it's a thing, look it up) this idea still persists despite having discovered these warriors were highly, highly elite, mobile, and able to perform minor feats of acrobatics in the armor-- vaulting, springing, somersaults, and active horse mounting.
Look at the "Mound Builder" controversy of North America. European skulls were found on that First Nation's site. Rather than stop and think "this doesn't fit, maybe we need to revisit who built these mounds" the dig rights were revoked, cease and desist orders were flying around, and everything was turned over and vaulted.
Archeology as an institution often practices the worst kind of science: they begin with an idea and search for facts to substantiate them, rather than following the facts regardless of where they lead.
This was one of the reasons I stopped my archeology study.
Sectarianism is not limited to religion. Once one commits to an explanation, one is able to rationalize to support who is after all but belief.
Confirmation bias is a helluva drug.
One thing to keep in mind is that Colombus wasn't the first time the old and new worlds had collided. The Vikings, the Chinese, and the Polynesians all visited the Americas before Colombus.
The ancient Phoenicians/Carthaginians were likely the first all the back in the last half of the 1st millennium BC.
Clearly they never fugged the natives while there
brilliantly said as the truth most know but subconsciously ignore
Maybe.
As did a group of Irish monks let by Brendan. . As depicted in art and literature in the 8th and 9th century.
My GGF died of syphilis which he’d picked up while working for the British Army in Ireland.
He died of what was then called ‘ the wasting disease ‘ in Rainhill psychiatric hospital ( the largest psychiatric hospital in the North of England ) shortly after admission there .
I wonder what he was doing in Ireland?
@@venkkooo Bashing up my mum’s catholic ancestors I suspect, who were starved out of Laois during the English engineered Irish potato ‘ famine ‘ ! Cos the syphilic one was a ‘ proddy dog ‘ , as was my dad , which is why ( truthfully ) my mum’s ‘ wonderful good catholic ‘ churchgoing family sent my dad to Coventry for the ENTIRE 24 years he lived after my mum died - just cos he wasn’t a bloody catholic !
Ha ha ha ! I’m a catholic but NEVER would have married one and HATE the institution of the Catholic Church and most Catholics I have ever met, cos they’re bloody bigots !
not any good... @@venkkooo
@@venkkoooa lot
@@orcuttcatalot? Alot of trouble.
Came for the syphilis bones, stayed for the strangest soundtrack I've ever witnessed on a documentary.
The same soundtrack is overused on the secrets of the Dead series as well
Is that godawful noise supposed to be victims of tertiary syphilis screaming as they die in agony? Because it sounds like a deranged attempt at a pterodactyl scream...
So how do you know what a pterodactyl sounds like?
@@berthaschwarze6704 Perhaps, like me, they were alive when dinosaurs roamed the earth. 🦖🦕
The dinosaur like screeching when they show Syphilis from a microscope view is HILARIOUSLY unexpected. 😂💀
There is another explanation that is not mentioned here. Hull was a port town and it is possible that some sailors from there did a trans-Atlantic crossing 150 years before Columbus. The ship technology of the mid-thirteen hundreds was certainly good enough to make the trip, but navigation was uncertain enough that the survivors probably couldn't reliably retrace their steps. Especially if they were all sick with syphilis afterwards!
How about the norse? There was contact between America and Europe before Columbus.
they later said that there was clear evidence of syphilis in Pompeii, thousands of years before Colombus
True, but doubtful that the Norse were "porking" the warlike native populace! @@spraakkanon
Possible, but unlikely. And it wouldn't explain the cases in Pompeii:: The Ancient Romans were coastal sailors.
Until this documentary, I had never heard of the theory that the indigenous peoples of the Americas had given syphilis to Columbus. Instead, I’ve known for decades that Columbus brought it to the Americas.
I thought that disease came over on the captain's dinge.
Nobody had ,only thing I have heard of is small pox blankets
Columbus and his old boys literally screwed it all up- taking much disease in more ways than one. I recall that in the first grade we celebrated Thanksgiving. That was really cool; one teacher so anxious to set the story straight told us a bit more than the principle Principal had bargained. We were told how Columbus raped women, beat, killed and abused the people. So, I never thought of Columbus as a hero but a criminal maggot. When Mrs Blue- the Principal showed up, the teacher speaking to all the kids was told to leave the classroom and never heard of again; so I am really glad someone left this same message here. th-cam.com/video/-E9T6UWaDRA/w-d-xo.html
Thanksgiving is still one of my favorite holidays celebrations but NOT AT ALL due to New World Old World relations.
Same here. 9 years of medical studies at university and I had never heard of this theory. I had heard an instructor say that syphilis started in sheep...
Thank you! How I see it, is they don't want to admit that where they originate from brought this vastly disease to innocent people and quite sickening to think of but I also believe they could have don't it deliberately to kill off the natives too.
Apparently the syphilitic skeletons were temporarily reanimated just long enough to compose and perform the music for this documentary before resuming their post-death, decomposition rest....
hahahaha
Nice. Lol.
LOL
Lmao.
Gagahaga 😎 🤗🤩 LMAO
Interesting and informative. Special thanks to historians/medical personnel . Sharing personal information/knowledge making this documentary more authentic and possible.
The bright flashing light that accompanies the electric shock sound is not only annoying but migraine & seizure inducing . Hopefully it’s not going to occur throughout the entire documentary. The information is truly interesting. I’m a nurse and in 2020 I took care of a patient with neurosyphilis. It’s still plaguing patients in high risk groups.
1- Scientists studied the bones at the burial site of a Greek community in an Italian city, Metapontum, and found indisputable evidence of syphilis. This city was last inhabited in 207.
Thus, those bones were buried, at least, 1285 years BEFORE Columbus expedition.
2- Scientists researched bones, ancient texts and Roman medicine of the city of Pompeii, and discovered indisputable evidence of syphilis in the city. Pompeii was destroyed and buried by a volcano on August 24 year 79.
Thus those bones were buried, at least 1413 years BEFORE the Columbus expedition.
Those information proved that Syphilis was present and rampant in Europe, way before Columbus expedition. If you want to hold,, at all costs, to the unproven theory that The Indian gifted the European with the syphilis disease, you have to first, believe that the Columbus expedition was a 'back to the future' event.
For the record, the above findings were stated clearly, in the video. Watch it again.
Sodomy
And Gomorrah/Gonorrhea ⚠️
I think you are correct. The disease clearly predates Columbus, it seems possible that it mutated to become more severe
Columbus came to India in search of treasure, according to macullay of Britain when he traveled all over India,went back said in parliament that there are more loose women ( prostitution) in single place in London rather than in south India.
1) That is a chipped tooth, you can tell by the crack that runs up the enamel. It is not a Hutchinson's incisor. Please look up what that looks like. Not only that but not ONE mention of mulberry molars. Do any of these kid skeletons have them? Because they aren't mentioned and are a strong sign.
The presented literally no evidence for Roman infection. They did not show any texts or documents indicating the disease, and the Romans were pretty damn good at documenting that sort of stuff. Nor did they show any bones. They can't just say they have irrefutable evidence, they should show it.
2) Native Americans were documented in Europe as early as the 1000's since they were kidnapped by Viking explorers, but sources say there is even earlier contact in the Greenland and Iceland areas, so that throws a wrench into any argument over time.
3) They also showed no evidence to their other theory that it existed as a childhood skin disease, which is awkward. Shouldn't there be something more than just a narrator's words for a theory? With nothing, no bones, no DNA, no documents, no stories, no citation, nothing at all, the writer themselves could have come up with that theory.
They spent a lot of time presenting evidence that a skeleton was from before 1400 to suddenly just not require anything but words by the end.
Sry, but SCiEnTist did x is not a sound argument. Especially in this case where the "science" presented in the documentation was presented in an attempt to circumvent peer review (a process this "evidence" does not withstand).
And since you will ask for a source:
"The Science Behind Pre-Columbian Evidence of Syphilis in Europe: Research by Documentary"
It takes exactly this documentary as an example.
It was surprising to hear that some believed that syphilis had come TO Europe FROM the Americas; I'd learned that syphilis and gonorrhea were some of the "gifts" that European explorers brought to the Americas, along with smallpox, measles and others.
It is no question that syphilis existed in America before Columbus. The question is, did it also exist in Europe
@@ggurks yes
It's not a surprise to hear that was surprising is if you believe it!! The rewriting of History continues!!
@@ggurks where's your proof evidence commentaries documents.. or references!! You're full of it
Why did these stupid humans have to troll this country?
There has been a recent skeletal discovery in the Yucatan Peninsula dating over 9,900 years ago of a 30 year old woman who had Treponema peritonitis, a disease related to syphilis.
Really? Fascinating. DO you know of any docos on the subject?
One theory does not have to exclude the other. Remember there was prior contact the new world trough the Vikings and Hull is in the area that the Vikings were in as well.
It might be pretty limited before because it was kept more regional compared to the time after Columbus when his man took it back as well.
Corona Virus has taken me on a research mission of plagues, and sickness.
Me too. Its been 3 days of nothing but black plague and diseases like this one documentaries. My brain is not taking our current pandemic situation well
I'd rather drink Corona than think of that another Corona.
@@romella_karmey
Syphilis is too convenient to treat.
I'm fast becoming a history buff as a result of quarentine.
Lol me too
Wow, that one guy REALLY didn't want to be wrong. He totally agreed that the bones showed signs of syphilis but was like... nope, it's not possible.
Hey! You got.top commemt.even though it was relatively new, and there's some with time of.likes, and some newer?! Weird!
Jeez...sorry for my terrible errors!! Hope you got my drift!!
The bones showed evidence - time to do some retro research perhaps?
that’s how many scientists are
He will fade to the background if he is proved different . The evidence of that one carbon dated body is ample proof !
Syphilis may have been brought to America from the old world with the first peoples who crossed over the land bridge during an ice age.
Syphilis can be transmitted by simply coming into contact with a lesion. It is not necessarily a sexually transmitted disease. The friars could have come into contact with it simply by caring for the sick.
The person who did the soundscore for this documentary is probably reading the comments and crying 😂
We’re feckin crying 😢 so it’s only fare this eejit should be crying too!!! 😉
@Charlie K lol right?
@Mr. Freiheit That is not any of your business. They did jobs that no one else would for any amount of money including you,
Or laughing 🤷
@Mr. Freiheit wrote the soundscore.
Very interesting. My Dad was a medic in WWII and he worked in the VD ward. He told me lots of stories about GI's that caught Syphilis and if not treated it was terrible. If caught early Penicillin would cure it. He was scared of it.
Syphilis is not curable even in early stages.
@@kdolo100 it can be cured by correct dosage of antibiotic i.e Penicillin but the damage of the infection lingers if long term Management of those other affected organs aren't followed up from which could attribute to death.
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What If one's allergic to penicillin?
@@marsjokes modern medicine has come a long way since the 40s and 50s. Theyve got antibiotics that arent penicillin based now.
You wouldn’t have thought just seeing someone who had syphilis how deeply the damage was going I had no idea how it was eating away at the bone 😢 what excruciating pain.. I heard on another video that death would have been a relief from the horrible suffering and it just made me realize how truly painful this disease was.
This was a very thorough documentary!
The quality of this channels documentaries is insane!
Can we not have the screams of the damned in the back ground!
Lol
Lmao..."screams of the damned"...i thought the same, it was like a bondage soundtrack.
NLDT STUDIOS lmao
@@ernestscribbler2294 fucktard!! What an answer!!
NLDT STUDIOS lol brilliant
Wow, I have finally found the perfect soundtrack for my wedding ceremony. I’m also impressed that they were able to capture my morning groans /stretch.
Best comment ever.
Hahaha.
divorced now?
😂
Imagine having to walk on legs overrun with Syphillitic bone destruction.
Half of comments here are from people who either didn't watch the documentary or , even worse, didn't understand it.
Everyone’s complaining about the music while I’m too busy being blinded from the random bright white flashes
Slow Ham this video could benefit from being sped up 7%
Slow Ham omg me too 😫 so annoying
I cast Healing Light!!!!
As I read your comment, the very first one popped up.
Epilepsy trigger warning 😭
This would be so much more enjoyable to watch without the horrible sound effects.
That being said, very interesting content.
Some musical riffs from Dua Lipa or Devo
sure could improve the insightful direction
of learning about V.D. history.
I thought the same thing. Was it a screaming human or a dinosaur? And their point was?
agree .. horrible sound effects
@@roberthudson5999 Sounded like a roaring elephant and or wolf? and or a mix. HOrrible sound effects that seriously suited a horror movie, not a documentary.
Plus sound of electrical shorts plus flashing white lights, wtf?!
These sound effects are priceless!😂😂😂😂
Years ago as a key data operator my state agency was contracted to enter death certificates from the early 1900s into a computer data base. So many of the death certificates after WWI were of veterans who died of syphilis. It was incredibly sad.
This music killed half of Europe not the plague.
Avery Martin aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh~~~😂
Well some say the living music IS behind everything!
Lol
....And then they went to Pompeii...ayaayaayaaaaa
😂 this comment made me laugh out loud😅
"Who really gave syphilis to whom". This very question is still asked by some today lol!
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Unlike CORONA virus ..🤣
The Native American women were not willing, I’m sure. ANd the real issue for all those “willing” freaks and even more willing “players
“is to use protection
🤣 This made me laugh!!! Love it!!!
Most people in the old world had poor environmental and there religious beliefs prevented them from using any form of contraception so they all had multiple forms of disease and zero antibiotics so syphilis wouldn't have time to show unless born with it
This makes a lot of sense as Syphillis is a mutation of the disease Yaws. If any organism doesn't mutate or change it's self, it will not survive. The Spanish Flu only had a few mutation's and it became a pandemic. COVID19 is a mutation and in itself it is spurning newer and newer mutation's that we call strains.
Yeah, but syphilis is bacterial based and the others are viruses. Don't know if that makes a difference?
@@LS-ei7xkit does. We have a clear case of someone not knowing what they’re talking about.
People did also join monasteries as a form of penance, so there is a nonzero possibility that they had contracted syphilis before becoming friars. Just a thought.
Evidence of Syphilis within the friary walls can be explained by:
1 . Their interaction with the poor and sick that they cared for;
2 . Lack of knowledge of how the disease was transmitted from one person to another;
3 . Inadequate sanitation habits: handwashing, basic hygiene and sanitation between treatments of the sick persons that they ministered to;
4 . Portal of entry to infections in the gashes that they open in their skins, when they inflicted their bodies.
Well, that makes sense to me.
Also, they mentioned self-flaggelation in the video and even showed how it could lead to bloody wounds...
It is quite certain that the monks didn't wash their hands after treating the sick, so it was obvious that it was very dangerous for a monk to self-flaggelate the same day as working with patients who had syphilis, because it can be easily transmitted when introduced to a fresh wound, where the chance of becoming infected is huge.
Ironic that they thought self-flaggelation would somehow save them from the god's wrath, but they didn't know that they were just bringing even more suffering upon themselves, with the possible shame of a monk catching the same disease as a prostitute...
Or they might have picked it up before they were monks.
4 cannot be true as syphilis was contracted only through sexual intercourse it originates from inside the body and is not passed on by dirty hands or someone sitting on a monks dirty toilet seat or by touching a medieval towel!
This Syphilis Pandemic video has become a big part of our family's Christmas tradition! We all gather around and watch during our Christmas meal. It truly brings us glad tidings of Great Joy!
Wth 😂
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Wtf!? 😅
Curious what you watch during Halloween? 🤔
Lpl😮
Can’t believe the woman in blue doesn’t wear gloves while handling V D bones…
Bones that have been dead for 500 years? No chance of contracting the disease from them.
Thank you. This has been fascinating. 👍
A few more Wilhelm screams could've really cemented the mood.
trucid2 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wilhelm? I thought they would yell 'Saville and Epstein-best buddies of our roooyaaaals ! '
@@winterweib it’s a stock soundeffect used too often in the pre-digital video age.
I can't imagine how much pain this man (skeleton #1216) must have been in. The lesions ate through his flesh *and* through his bones! I hadn't realized how truly bad syphilis could be!
Me either
Yes verry painfull
Said to be the disease of kings ..
There's something to be said for monogamy.
So the Friars and people were sinners like the rest of us. I cannot judge them. I have pity on their poor souls. What horrible suffering.
I love the Y2K aesthetic of this one, from the sweet triphop soundtrack and sampled audio effects to the computers/graphics and weirdly lit up skeletons. Usually these things are terrible quality and have been through not just one VHS recorder, but this is crisp and almost seems unreal. Very cool! One of my favorites.
Those huge computer monitors and the idea that "ooh, we can use computers for THIS?!" Are pretty entertaining features.
I had always thought syphilis was around since ancient times.
There were 2 children's skeletons found in Pompeii that showed signs of congenital syphilis. It had probably been around for ages in the known world, not just the Americas.
this is apparently not proven and some scientists think that the lesions in pompeii could have been caused by leprosy and not syphilis.....so more research seems to be needed.
@@Frank-dv4zu There were a few hypothesis regarding the lesions on the bones. Should be interesting to see what answers we have in the future. :)
Were they male or female?
@@Kade5251 I'm not sure. It was a documentary with Mary Beard. They noted that the children had been well cared for but had lesions on their bones. They were fairly young. :)
@@GenerationJonesi Thank you, I'd definitely look more into it as well.
I worked for an internal medicine practice. The secretary and I were dreading an appointment for our rudest patient. The doctor said his disposition was a consequence of long term Syphilis.
This was so interesting. Thank you
CONGRATULATIONS! You have reported as a new discovery a conjecture that I read about 40 years ago! Basically the author speculated that the non-fatal form of the pathogen's activity (which in fact is a disease called yaws) mutated in Europe because the little Ice Age caused more covering up and led the little varmints to mutate to transmitting through the mucous membranes of the sexual organs. I note however, that there was nothing in the documentary to explain this big explosion in 1495 Naples. Btw, it wasn't just Europe: by 1505 it had reached Japan.
The soundtrack needs more cowbell.
You MUST listen to techno....
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There is zero amount of cowbell that will help this soundtrack
@@rastamuff1 then he would have said 808 Base
That caught me totally off guard 😂😂😂
The interpretation of all this seems wrong to me as an MD. Friars often cared for the severely sick. They would not be above caring for syphilitics. A wealthy individual could have had syphilis and his family then paid for a propitious burial. He could also have become a friar himself before symptoms were severe. This puts syphilis in Europe 150 years earlier than believed. Most Europeans drank alcohol to avoid disease passed through water. Why these archeologists assume the friars were having drunken orgies is beyond me.
I remember an MD friend of mine correcting me when I considered the effect of STD on the life of the ancients. I didn’t know syphilis was formerly thought to be absent from Europe until after Columbus. Taboos about sexual promiscuity are based partly on these diseases. Soldiers and sailors who travel are naturally susceptible.
You'll probably be interested to know that various medical professionals and labs have looked into this and it's hot garbage. It just keeps popping up because of the sensationalism factor.
Carla Broderick exactly my thoughts, you spoke my mind especially about friars caring for the sick and drinking wine for lack of clean water.
Fantastic, my husband was a merchant seaman, explains alot 🙄🤔😜
@Mike Gee You make huge assumptions about LGBTQ people. Many are clergy themselves. Faith in Christ and God has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
That is pretty much what they say, but wanted to ramp up the misery and scandle.... Kind of dates the program (as does the sound, graphics and bloody old computer gear)
Does anyone else have a problem with people digging up someone's skeleton and using it for scientific or historical work? This was once a person who lived, although they lived a long time ago. How many people would be comfortable with a loved one's or their own grave being dug up 50-100+ years in the future, and have someone fiddling with their head cavity as if it's just a curious object someone found in a junkyard vs. allowing the remains to RIP? Yes, we can learn from human remains, but who are we to unearth people's graves and mess with their bones?
It is a fascinating and thought provoking documentary the whole way through.
The friaries were often the only places the poor could go for hospital care. The friars nursed the sick and the dying, including cases of syphilis, as part of their Christian duty. Syphilis sufferers were outcasts of society, their families didn't want them and wouldn't nurse them up till their deaths. The friaries did, and they gave comfort to the end for these poor souls.
the question is where they buddy bandits ?
@@ipeeinmysinkimafraidtocome7127 Most were not. They risked their lives to do their Christian duty
This was no public health system only what various orders like the Fransicans ,Augustinian and Benedictine provided. The Knights hospitalers also had hospitals.
@@ipeeinmysinkimafraidtocome7127 Likely, you are a buddy bandit.
Projection
Especially could you imagine being raped than contract it, than shunned? Terrible.
I dont care how old those bones are...I would NOT touch that scourge with my bare hands
I know right since I'm a trained emt there first rule is scene safe bsi (body substance isolation) and I treat bsi as law on dead and living ozzie remaines wounds etc that not food
Amen op… you could not pay me any amount of money to touch that
Rule of thumb for archeology: 1) Wear PPE (Personal Protective Equipment). It killed them, it will kill you too. 2) Avoid graves around 1918 AT ALL COSTS! Spanish flu went away because it killed too efficiently. No antibody or antibiotic will cure it.
Ya just gotta love it when ignorance rears its' ugly head to insist on its' public outcry...
peeweecoco imagine having to explain to your husband/wife that you caught an STD from centuries year old bones?
It's weird when I think about things like this disease I think about it in past tense but it's a disease that still exists today just not common to find but there's still cases of it in hospitals.
Very common among illegal aliens from South of the border!
i really enjoyed that i have learned alot about something i knew very little about , also the way it was put over and explained was easy to absorb ,,,,excellent 9/10 from me ///
“Civilization means Syphilization”…best line
in any online doc ever. 🤣
Seems to me that one skeleton that had syphilis prior to1492 is enough to say that, yes, it was present in Europe before Columbus.
Like they won't let it go
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right
Psyclotron xx so now we are to believe syphillis came from native Americans, no.
Came from sheep.
Amazing documentary. Both in information and presentation.
A smiley face! At 4:31 while talking about recognizing syphilis showing up on bone, the camera scaled up a leg bone to a smiley face indentation? Or pumpkin head! 🎃 😯
Imagine this man spent years of work on a theory just to have it blown to smithereens in an instant. Science is always evolving...there is no denying it. Fascinating show.
That's why I hate when people say the science is settled.
Theory is not science. It may involve some science. But theory is nothing but a guess using some science and conjecture.
That's why fauci is always wrong and the sheeple are scared
@@eugenecrawford14sorry, it's you who is frightened. You are projecting your emotions on others. I got my vacc early and moved on..thanks to science.
@@leagarner3675 what the he'll are you talking about
Dumb as s
I am not frightened of anything
Ms projecting communist
I have a skeletal disease called Monostotic Fibrous Dysplasia in my right femoral neck. What that means is that very top of my thigh bone, up by the ball of the hip, is hollow. The bone was eaten away and destroyed due to a genetic anomaly. I’ve had multiple bone graft surgeries to the spot. And let me just say, crappy, rotting bones *hurt*! I’m lucky in that my cyst is now stable and I only had serious pain from it for a few years (though I was left with major pain issues from the surgeries and fractures, but that’s another story). But I always cringe when I hear about bone issues like they described in the beginning because I know how annoying and painful they are.
Wow! Thanks for sharing a modern day example of something that describes how painful tertiary syphilis could have been. It must have been awful having no cure or effective means of surgery or relief from things like this and genetic conditions like yours - which undoubtedly also existed through time too. Thank you and healing thoughts
I hope you have a spectacular life
How awful. Best of luck to you.
WHEW!! I'm so sorry u have to deal with that!🙏💖
Sorry you have to experience that hope you're doing ok.
the editing on this was hilarious. from the eerie plunking tune from when things are Being Considered Very Seriously, to the moaning women of Feeling Very Sorry About Things, to the wailing roar of Pain Itself.
i loved the way the guy describing venereal syphilis wafted out of the darkness and fixed me with a dramatic stare as his writings were narrated by the gentle italian man. i loved the way a person had to be lying down flat on their back on some rocks and then go invisible to demonstrate the concept of sleeping. i loved how many times i had to watch that monk spank himself as B roll.
this is a masterpiece. bravo.
Reading the comments to decide if this is worth watching. I'm sold!
I love your analysis of the editing. I'm used to editors feeling they must add drama to keep people from clicking away from what the editors believe that most people would consider boring. It's too bad and completely unnecessary. The effect that irritated me was the screen blanking in and out with an electric arc sound effect. It made me think that my computer was malfunctioning. And I am wondering if the Pain scream is a variation on the Wilhelm scream.
Having been a dental assistant, I'm amazed at how intact the teeth are in the Hull skeleton ....
Dendrochonology gives the date the wood was cut. Not when the coffins were built. And I believe the disease started in Europe. However,another fact is that Europeans-Vikings- were in Americas around 1000 ad. They did have contact with natives but usually in warfare,I think
Fascinating history. It seems that syphillus was in Europe over a century before the "new world" was discovered.
It can also be transmitted by mother to child in utero and at birth. It is a body fluid transmission, so it can also be contracted when coming into contact with contaminated blood or other body fluids. If the monks treated the sick, they could have contracted it w/o sexual contact.
Stop making excuses, Augustine was a homosexual too...
😳 wow that must of been horrifying
Those bones have been shown to not be syphillis. This documentary and the studies behind it have been debunked, it was even heavily criticized by the scientific community as soon as it aired. And even more evidence and studies showing it to be false has come to light since that keeps building up.. Can't link on youtube but just search the scientific journal
-The Science behind Pre-Columbian Evidence of Syphilis in Europe: Research by Documentary-.
Phylogenetic studies indicated that syphilis seems to have emerged in the Americas since Treponema spp. evolutionary rates are compatible with pre-Columbian times and no evidence for European strains prior to the syphilis pandemic have been detected. Decoding the genetics of veneral syphillis was the smoking gun recently that pretty much proved to the scientific community that it was in the Americas long before it came to Europe. Yet the beggining of this documentary still claims to be "the true story of syphillis" lol
@@muddyhotdog4103 My bones feel better already..
@@muddyhotdog4103 Did they mention what this would have been then?
They drank more wine than water in those days because they often found that the water made them sick not knowing it was bacteria in the water.
Interesting video with a new approach.
But I wouldn't trow away the pre-Columbian theory at the moment. Not yet.
Maybe It would be interesting also to look, if possible, towards viking skeletons. They had also contact with North America and the local population and they were well-presented in North England. It could be also a way of disease transmission?
What's with the idiotic sound effects (howls, growls, etc.)? Is this a documentary or a B movie?
chainoad yes.
Right?? Not necessary
I thought there might be a hidden meaning in the howls & growls ...Is Bigfoot the culprit !! 🤔😲😂
I know, I almost can't watch it . The sound ruins it!
The music is sometimes jarring.
I think there were likely outbreaks occurring even BEFORE they think. As with melanoma, syphilis was probably mistaken as leprosy. Sailors are buried at sea, so how would anyone know if they had it? No, i believe it's been around for centuries.
goes back to creation
I think it's well-documented that it has been around for centuries.
Yep.
I agree. Syphilis is called "The Great Imposter" in medicine. Like Diabetes it can present like many other diseases. There are retrospective studies, that AIDS may have present many years before our present records. In short, it must be considered that if you aren't looking for something then you will or will not find it. So if you're not looking for certain diseases in ALL cultures, you won't find it because of skewing of info or just disregarding the info. Also, we have to consider social and religious pressures in how information is presented and/or relayed, and by whom. Remember history belongs to the conquerors.
Do making conjectures an accusation without a bit of evidence at least have an example of somebody who describe something that look like it but don't just say I believe and I think with no evidence your argument has no merit
Very concerning that the scientist presenting the skeleton @5:00 she is not wearing any gloves thus leaving her hand/finger oils on the artifact. Nowadays this won't happen in any lab research (especially when handling artifacts from the past).
REcent studies indicate that syphilis did exist among native Americans prior to European contact, but they had a natural immunity to the disease, which may have been a milder form.
I had watched a doc on PBS. Can't remember the name of the series, but in it was stated that polynesian people had syphilis on their skin. A far, far milder form. And, of course, fewer clothes. This strain was passed on to the European explorers. They, in turn, took it back. With their heavier clothing, the disease mutated, and,then, the foreigners came back to the islands.
"so what kind of religious community was this?"
The fun kind apparently.
Jasmine Starcher
Yaasssssss 😃
I was thinking they may have been taking care of them as they was in need I’m not even sure if they knew it was a STD at this time
You look like you would love to be apart of perverted cult! Probably have syphilis already?
Jasmine Starcher ~ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The kind that cared for the dying.
I do not think that l have ever been more grateful to have not been living in those times than l am watching this.
The suffering must have been so intense, so agonizing for those in the grips of this plague, for those in the midst of having their bodies shredded. l cannot even fathom having to endure this or worse yet, watching someone that l love struggle with it until they were taken. How horrifying.
Yeah and that amplifies the cruelty of the Tuskegee experiment
What’s worse than all of those combined is the soundtrack used in this documentary.
@@soulsearch1234 -Amen.
Never go to prostitutes and if you are a woman make sure you marry a guy that don't go to prostitutes.
Yet hundreds 600 is supposed to be the number 400 were given syphilis, 200 was the control group.. with no regard to the people that they infected and the agonizing death that these people suffered.. on top of that no money was ever given to the families who are owed or should be given Millions.. and the doctors claimed that they were doing a noble thing for the sake of science.. even the black nurse who lured the people to their unsuspecting tragedies claimed that they would not get the medical care that they needed and other benefits if they had not been involved with the experiment.. these people were considered sane medical professionals!! Just like now!! You fill in the blanks!!🤔
Consider as well that Columbus wasn't the first European expedition to the Americas in fact some of his crew had been before as Portuguese cod fishermen. Not to forget the Vikings the Irish and the cod fishermen of Portugal France and British. The new world cod fishery was one of the best kept secrets of the new world.
Amazing! Watching them uncover that whole site in Hull.
George just doesn't want to be wrong about his writings.
exactly even if 3 are there before then it was there before
I swear an intern was in charge of the music selection 😂😐 it doesn't suit the documentary at all.
jasmin smith oh I think it does perfectly
I found it jarring as well.
0:46 u can see his peepee
It's really not necessary to have that music. It's jarring to be sure.
Bredah Jake Gladys Knight and the pips?
I never realised the severity of this disease and in a time when no modern treatments it was an horrendous way to suffer and die in acute pain ffs.
The sound effects were a hoot. The best part for me.
You’d be surprised how common it still is. I work in the medical field and people test positive all the time.
my husband knew a guy who'd been treated either twice or three times for the syphilis he kept catching from the same woman.
A few of my friends have had it
My sister had it so bad her hair was missing in patches 😮
do you guys have to report the statistics to the government?
@@betsywoolbright8059I read that syphills stays in the body forever people who are treated have to check their levels for it every couple years
Imagine the pain they went through :( I feel horrible for the people who had no relief from this. I couldn't imagine what the disease would feel like. But if it's eating ur bones that's horrible.
Atleast they did not have to hear the music of this documentary.
Suffering from sever osteoporosis and arthritis I am glad I never had syphilis.
Laceration on the skin and down to the bone.
@@milixer1 oh jeeze hahaha
@@milixer1 LMAO...!!!!!!! That's Comedy Gold ! :-D XD ;-)
Ugh I started watching it around 2am and I don't think I'm going back to sleep! Worse than what I watched 30+ years ago around the same time of the morning 😂
I was replying to the original poster's comment that the documentary was all about blaming Native Americans for the outbreak. That is not how the documentary makers ended their presentation.
I was not arguing for or against the validity of any particular set of arguments. I was arguing that the documentary was not 48 minutes of Native American blaming.
Not a scientist, don't have time to read the research, am not making any claim about the scientific validity of any particular theory. Just pointing out that the OP didn't seem to sit through much of the piece before making his comment.
I have to go with Charlotte, not George. She has my vote. I think that Syphilis has been around a lot longer then George thinks.
Agree with you on that.
He showed his stupidity by not being able to control his emotions , oh and towards a woman scientist.
Has her Carbon Dating accounted for the "Deep Carbon" of people who eat lots of seafood?
@@deborahstroman2987 yeah, he needs to let go of his prejudices if he truly wants to be a good academic.
Lisa's J Yes you are correct. Syphilis has been found in the skeleton remains in Pompeii. Mount Vesuvius erupted in AD 79.
Syphilis is not explicitly a venerial disease, it is transmitted by direct blood to blood contact, so why didn't you connect it with the whipping rods?
Syphilis is venereal disease also very dangerous in today's times because it survives its renaissance through the promotion of the so-called "free love" does not talk about it almost NEVER and is in incurable practice
So how was the first one infected?
Jason Bristol the monks were drunk and bumming just like they do today!
Hm
@@rozaroza6909 Maybe you have heard about antibiotics...? Nobody has died from syphilis in the developed world for God knows how many decades. Incurable you say? Nobody ever talks about it? Medical professionals talk about it.
The fact that YOU never talk about quantum physics or aquatic microorganisms at your family get-togethers doesn't mean that nobody talks about it.
Are all those annoying noises really needed?? This was a very interesting video, but it would've been better without the same weird, out of context noises throughout the video