On the drop down menu in the rectangle on the right hand side of the map at the bottom of the rectangle is a circle with a lightning bolt going through it. Tap it. My girlfriend found it on our last trip. Throws all the chargers on the route up on the map and you can select from there. It’s not intuitive, I’m glad she figured it out. It helps a lot.
Yep, that's actually the one I was using - but it only filters all chargers in a very small radius to my current location. Perhaps it's a software issue on my end? As logically I suppose the functionality of it, should be a map-wide overview?
The supercharger in Sangerhausen is currently closed because it will be upgraded from a V2 charger to V4. So it was bad timing more or less, but not really a cause to blame Tesla for, as that is also the reason, why the car did not routed you to it until you manually selected it.
That certainly makes sense in hindsight. Actually, at 3:03 when I click on the charger icon it does show it as grey with a out of order sign. I didn't notice that in the heat of the moment, as I was too focused on finding other chargers along the route. It also turns out there simply are't any Tesla chargers along this route. At that moment, I was also entirely focused on searching for chargers further away from my location, but for some reason it only showed me chargers that were nearby (max 30km radius). This is somehow still an unexplained issue that I wasn't able to replicate today when sitting in the car, at home.
I owned tesla for 4 years and never had problem to see all superchargers. Usually I choose different SC manually and not use the one recommended by tesla planning software.
Did try that, many times. It still only showed me nearby chargers. I don't know if that's because my range was below 30% and maybe it then only shows chargers in close proximity? As this morning when I got in the car with 75%, the charging icon showed me chargers all over the map, as it should have done yesterday
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Besides the Tesla superchargers I've used Fastned here in the Netherlands and never had any issues. I could just use my normal charging card and it worked immediately. I ran into the problem with the non-working SC of Tesla as well, but that was mostly because I was stubborn and didn't listen to the car. Luckily I was still able to reach a working one in the end (in Frankfurt) with 4% left or so that time.
It's also just about me learning when something doesn't work and immediately try something else. For an example, on my first change I went to one of the old V1 chargers that charge slow when 2 cars are connected, I didn't know that - so that was frustrating and for the future won't happen again. I also once arrived at a charger only charging with 35 kw. Turns out it was a charger issue and I just had to use the charger next to and everything worked. However, when it happened, I didn't know that and thought it was an issue with my car. Frustrating then, but won't happen again in the future. This time I know when I go to a EnBW charger and it doesn't charge immediately, I just need to try the cable next to, or a different charger. It's annoying that these things happen, you just don't have that issue with a petrol car. I've never had a gas pump only pump out 1 liter per minute, or even a gas pump not working at all. Again, these are all negative experiences, but something I've learned from and hopefully won't cause frustration in the future. It's only the first time these things happen that it's incredibly annoying, especially as it's things that in 2024, should be possible to have working in a better way.
I went on a little road trip in my model 3 this summer. Drove over 10k km over 16 days. Slept in the car. At no point did i have any problems with charging. Only used Teslas chargers because everyone knows they are by far the best. During the whole trip, only one charger was not working, but my car told me about it before i arrived so i could avoid it.
Well 😇No but honestly, 1 hour of frustration is 3,600 seconds - every single second of you being annoyed why something isn't working the way it should. It's a lot. Obviously there are worse situations, and I'm sure in my future road-trips we'll encounter something much worse too. That video will then be called a "terror filled charging experience" 😉
I'm super impressed with the consumption of this beast at high speeds. It seems impossible, other cars get this consumption crusing at 110kph, and you were crusing at at least 160! Damn that's impressive. I can't imagine what the AWD long range is capable of. Good vid, Fench
To be fair, I did cut out the places with speed limit restrictions due to roadwork (80 zones) as well as driving through the cities to/from the Autobahn which will lower consumption somewhat. However, the consumption is very impressive nonetheless! The AWD LR is insane when it comes to consumption. I'm doing a comparison test soon and I honestly think it's 30% more efficient in a direct comparison. I've driven with my BIL in his LR and the efficiency is unbelievable.
I have been driving my M3 Highland RWD for 1 year and have been planning the Tesla Navi (SC) for 20,000 km. I regularly use the battery to only 2% despite LFP! It works so wonderfully and reliably. The preconditioning, the charging current and the charging time 2-65 are also great. Great BMS! I can't understand your problems...
For LFP batteries, discharging it entirely doesn't hurt the battery in the same way it would affect the LG battery in this one. The ideal SOC for these types of batteries is keeping within 45-75%, or 20-80%. Going lower or higher would affect the battery negatively, so I try and remain within the 10-85% range for keeping the battery as healthy as possible, long term. LFP batteries can safely be charged and discharged 100%, so you can plan your routes a bit differently than I - or at least to someone that tries and keep the battery at an optimum level for its type. With that said, the route planning software in the Tesla still gave me these unexplained issues (i.e. not showing chargers around on the map, only nearby chargers). Today when I tried to replicate the issue from yesterday I wasn't able to. So perhaps it was a one-time issue? Perhaps related to having low battery and it then only displayed nearby for helping me? I couldn't say. I'm sure all of my issues are beginners issue too. Once I get used to driving and planning with an electric car, these should be non-existent, hopefully!
Nice video. Kind off topic question but do you use AI voice generator for the narrator or is it your real voice? Either way it works.. just curious because it sounds so polished.
Really nice! I have the exact same drone and car! Here in Amsterdam no mountains at all 😂. But you give me more than enough reasons to go out to the mountains some day! Prague I love also. I used to be also as early as possible on the Carls bridge. Greetz from Frank
@franktimmerman8480 cheers Frank! Planning a visit to Amsterdam actually, what would be your top 3 suggestions to check out, if you wouldn't mind sharing :-)
@@MisterFench There is so much to discover so these are some examples 1. From RAI P&R take the metro North-South to Central Station and take a walk to the DAM 2. Behind the central station cross the river "het ij" for free to the EYE museum and drink a cop of coffee 3. Climb (for free) the stairs outside to the top of NEMO and enjoy the view. Also the "scheepvaart" museum is a beautiful building from inside. Just a couple of ideas. ENJOY Amsterdam!
Maybe I missed it, but couldn't you just search for 'Supercharger" in the navigation? Is that not going to show further away options? Though I agree, the list should probably update as you move around the map.
I will try that next time, I just figured there should be an option built into the navigation - I mean, there is - it just doesn't seem to be working for a radius larger than x kilometres. Ideally it should auto-refresh as the map gets moved around, would only be logical? I can't possibly be the only one having this issue?
@@MisterFench Well, one thing is that at 3:06, it seems to only showing you chargers on the route to the supercharger, because, I guess, it already assumed you want to go there. You had 28km to the supercharger and it only suggested chargers up to 28km, so that's how I concluded that. Maybe if you canceled the supercharger visit, it would show you chargers on the route to your further destination. But then I'm not sure why at 3:55 it only shows you close chargers, perhaps because it doesn't want you to go lower than like 20%? The label at the top also changed from "Chargers" to "Nearby charging", though I'm not sure why : )
@@NikiL2134 I'm not sure what happened, as it has also sometimes suggested SuperChargers I would arrive at with all the way down to 0%. Perhaps Tesla knew the Supercharger at 6% charge was closed and it wants to force me to de-route, so that I don't go to a third party charger? Maybe that's what happened? The app just made it so complicated to force me to charge at a Tesla Charger instead of bothering with finding a third party station?
@@MisterFench Totally agree, but Tesla route planner is terrible, does not give options, and does not consider non-Tesla stations. So until Tesla decides to change this and sends an update, ABRP is a good option
@barbabriccozein2290 I did give it a try yesterday evening to check it out. It's actually everything that an in-car route planner should have! Very good, but also very frystrating it's necessary to use a third party planner.
I had my tesla for 2 years and never had any problems with charging. Before i leave anywhere on a long trip i just plan ahead at what superchargers i will be using and also check on google maps if all of them are working. Seems like the superchargers not showing might be on your end not sure why tho. For the chargers other than tesla i use EnBw mobility... it covers most of them in germany and europe. I had a few road trips over 2000 km doing this and never had a problem. Btw love your content... it's relaxing
I fully accept that you can plan ahead and you will not run into these sort of issues, perhaps it's also the way I have to do in the future to not have these issues, however. It seems this is more of a software issue with the route planner built into the car. I experimented with "ABRP" and it works exactly how I would expect the in-car infotainment to work in an electric car. There's filtering of charging providers, I can set my SOC on arrivals, customize pretty much everything how I would like to plan my own route. I mean, it's basically perfect. The annoying thing is that we really shouldn't have to rely on a third party software to plan our routes better than the car can itself. That is just mind boggling to me. Thanks for watching by the way, appreciate it!
I live in Japan and there aren't many superchargers to begin with, but Japan itself it also geographically smaller than some countries so maybe that makes it easier to find a location. In addition, the superchargers are generally placed at strategic locations along the highways, so you don't have to think about it too much. I haven't had any problems when doing road trips though. It has all been very convenient. I've never used a non-Tesla charger though, so maybe that has something to do with it. Thanks for the great videos. I was stuck on ultra red, quicksilver, or white, but your videos are such good quality and detail it helped me to decide my next car! I went with the same M3P white exterior and black interior. Can't wait!
Congratulations Dave, great spec for it - I honestly think it's the best one. I also went for the white colour because it's still an issue for Tesla doing the other colours right (thin paint, not everywhere is properly painted, i.e. behind doors, hinges etc. And yes, if sticking to Tesla chargers it should be a breeze. I was apparently unfortunate in my travels (learned later), due to 2 of the Tesla Superchargers not being available on the route. You live and learn. Next time I will also not have the issue again. Getting the hang of this electric driving bit by bit 🙂
I use a better route planner. Tesla’s UI has weaknesses, i wish Tesla’s native interface let you filter chargers and locations (distance, level, location etc) hopefully they will eventually make it better with more feedback
@suzakukururugi6613 yes! That's exactly how I would want an in-car interface to work as well. Unfortunately I think that won't happen as they focus on simplicity. I think it's kind of Apple vs Android and they're Apple in this regard
Once you are in navigation mode if you press again on the navigation tab on your screen you will get an overview of the complete route, another press on the charger icon on the far right of the screen will show you the chargers, the only problem is that they are grayed out if they are not the ones already chosen by the app, so they might be harder to see if the route is long and the icons small. Zooming in on the map helps, and once you find one on the route that you like just add it as a waypoint.
Yes, the grey ones seem to be non-Tesla chargers, very difficult to see. However, that was the button I was using and it still only showed me "Nearby Chargers" for some reason?
@@MisterFenchit shows the nearby chargers if you are navigating and press the charger icon. Before you do that press again on the navigation tab and only then on the charger icon. The difference is that you see a complete overview of your route and you see the first supercharger in red, if you want another supercharger further away you can choose one along the route, even if they are gray you have a better chance of finding them if your route is marked on the map.
@@R.B-l2x I will have to experiment with that again tomorrow morning! I really hope it was just a user-error on my end and it is actually possible to plan it as I prefer! Thank you my friend, I'll try tomorrow!
As I explained in the video, the recommended Supercharger put me on a detour away from the optimal direct route to my destination and I wanted to arrive at a charger with a lower charge. I've also tried route-planning where the Tesla App selects charging stations where it says I will arrive with 1% charge. For multiple reasons that is not an ideal. 1) what if I don't actually make it; what if there's an issue at the charging station (which I have now experienced multiple times), or something else. I really would prefer never to go less than 8% when going anywhere, just to have that safety buffer, in case something.
@@MisterFench I agree. If I ever do a long trip, I always run the pack low to get the full speed of the superchargers. Even though I rarely ever use them.
This is how you want to do it: put your destination in (in this case your home) and then go to "add stop", then press charging as a filter and see the superchargers along your route to your destination. Then try some or if you are an experienced Tesla user and are not too bad in Math you roughly calculate and choose the supercharger that fits the criteria of below 10 percent and above 5 percent. The temporarily closed ones you can directly see as the symbol of the supercharger appears different in the app. If you follow this guide it is always very easy to charge as fast as possible. But yes, this should already happen by default and why can't I put more filters like with how many percent I would like to arrive at my destination etc. I would like to add that your video style, voice for narrating and content variation is very good. Thank you
Perhaps it’s because i’m not such an experienced ev’ist but i would just have gone straight to the airport charger and forego charging speed on that occasion
I had a hard time finding 3rd party chargers for my ford mustang Mach-e. Each company wants their app and their account. It is very annoying. I’m getting my model 3 next week. There are a ton of tesla chargers on the north east corridor.
It's incredibly frustrating. Too many companies with their own charging service and prices, forcing you to sign up with them to get a cheaper charging price. I hope regulations put a stop to this. Well, I guess it's not much different than regular petrol stations when I think of it.
@chickenp7038 Actually, running the scenario through ABRP, it also would not have directed me to that charger. Instead, it would have guided me towards the one I ended up at. So it absolutely would have sent me on a detour, if I had blindly listened. Also the main issue I experienced was being limitedly shown chargers only within a short distance to my position
When conditions allow, we may go upwards 170 - but only when conditions allow and in a safe manner; meaning keeping safe distances, slowing down if there are 2 cars close to each other, at all time keep an eye on wheels of passing cars, making sure they are not swirving, but staying put in lane, otherwise I slow down. Constantly have a foot ready to brake whenever we get near other cars, as well as the finger ready to flash lights, all at the same time. You can drive fast in a safe manner, just as you can drive dangerously at slower speeds. The number one cause of accidents is the lack of keeping a safe distance and inattentive drivers. I always keep an eye out for both, much more than others, as I unfortunately witness every day. The main culprit is usually some Octavia that's flying around blind corners with 220 and pressuring anyone in front of him with a 10 meter distance. Ironically driving faster would keep you safer from idiots like these.
Das ist auch mein absoluter Albtraum. Für jede Säule braucht man wieder eine andere App etc. Super nervig und umständlich, leider. Es könnte so viel einfacher sein.
This is not true, you just need a single app and you can activate all non-Tesla charging stations. Octopus Electroverse is a good one, but also En-BW, Plugsurfing and Chargemap are good. Just choose one, get the RFID charging card and that's it.
You’re videos are great to watch :) And the model 3 is a perfect car. I drive the model 3 RWD with the LFP battery. When we travel to Germany I always keep the speed on the autobahn between 125-135km/h. It saves a lot of time changing. If you want to see all the Tesla superchargers you can open the phone app and select te “charge other electric vehicle” now you see all the chargers on the map. Select the one you want and type the name in de car navigation. I hope that helps!
Wow, thank you! The charge map in the phone is exactly what I was trying to find in the car-app! How come something like that isn't available in the car infotainment, baffles me. I guess due to regulations for monopoly/competition against other chargers, but still - at least make a filter possible then.
Alter das wäre mir zu stressig. Ständig so low fahren kurzum effizient zu laden und dann wie du Panik Mode schieben. Hätte gern ein Model Y aber sowas hält mich immer noch davon ab.
Um ehrlich zu sein, denke ich, dass es bei Elektroautos in erster Linie eine Frage der Gewöhnung ist, Dinge etwas anders zu machen und anders zu fahren als bei einem Benzinauto. Man lernt auch aus jeder negativen Erfahrung und weiß dann beim nächsten Mal, was man anders machen muss. Ich bin mir sicher, dass ich in ein paar Wochen aus all meinen Fehlern gelernt habe und solche Situationen dann nicht mehr passieren, weil ich gelernt habe, wie man richtig damit umgeht, wenn man ein E-Auto fährt.Nervig ist es aber wenn sowas passiert.
You spent so much time messing around with chargers, and, as you admit, an hour of you messing with the screen (and GOING TO WEBSITES ffs, unbelievably stupid to do when driving) and not paying attention to the road and putting everyone at risk, when you could have just gone to the charger nav instructed you to, saved money and time and had a much safer and less stressfull journey. You did this to yourself.
more glad i went with my 6000usd phev. 50 miles ev range is really all you need. once you talk about stuporcharging, everyone wishes they didnt have an ev. here where i live gas is actually much cheaper than supercharging. i buy a bunch extra at the indian reservation and keep it in my garage and use a transfer pump to fill up. we are our own gas station. the solar roof i installed for 200 bucks usually pays for 2 gal of gas worth of charging each week. 21usd/mo insurance, these are things you cant do with a nice fancy tesla without hurting its value.
Makes total sense when you have that option available to you. For someone like us that are both regular short and long distance drivers, a Diesel-Hybrid with 70 miles of electric range would probably be the sensible choice. This one is more of a fun toy that we do our best to work with our lifestyle. Everything now is still new and exciting and I'm interested in seeing what we feel about it 1 or 2 years down the line.
On the drop down menu in the rectangle on the right hand side of the map at the bottom of the rectangle is a circle with a lightning bolt going through it. Tap it. My girlfriend found it on our last trip. Throws all the chargers on the route up on the map and you can select from there. It’s not intuitive, I’m glad she figured it out. It helps a lot.
Is he not doing that at 2:30?
Yep, that's actually the one I was using - but it only filters all chargers in a very small radius to my current location. Perhaps it's a software issue on my end? As logically I suppose the functionality of it, should be a map-wide overview?
@@NikiL2134my bad, you are correct. Going on a short drive now to see what mine looks like here in the states.
@@MisterFenchgoing on a short drive here in a few minutes here in the states. Will let you know if mine is different.
@@davewhitegt Appreciate it!
This is the best real e-car user experience video on the internet
The supercharger in Sangerhausen is currently closed because it will be upgraded from a V2 charger to V4. So it was bad timing more or less, but not really a cause to blame Tesla for, as that is also the reason, why the car did not routed you to it until you manually selected it.
That certainly makes sense in hindsight. Actually, at 3:03 when I click on the charger icon it does show it as grey with a out of order sign. I didn't notice that in the heat of the moment, as I was too focused on finding other chargers along the route. It also turns out there simply are't any Tesla chargers along this route.
At that moment, I was also entirely focused on searching for chargers further away from my location, but for some reason it only showed me chargers that were nearby (max 30km radius). This is somehow still an unexplained issue that I wasn't able to replicate today when sitting in the car, at home.
I owned tesla for 4 years and never had problem to see all superchargers. Usually I choose different SC manually and not use the one recommended by tesla planning software.
Tap the charging icon on the right
Did try that, many times. It still only showed me nearby chargers. I don't know if that's because my range was below 30% and maybe it then only shows chargers in close proximity? As this morning when I got in the car with 75%, the charging icon showed me chargers all over the map, as it should have done yesterday
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Hast dir definitiv nen Abo verdient!
@@Leo-vn8xn freut mich sehr! Vielen Dank 🙏😉
Besides the Tesla superchargers I've used Fastned here in the Netherlands and never had any issues. I could just use my normal charging card and it worked immediately. I ran into the problem with the non-working SC of Tesla as well, but that was mostly because I was stubborn and didn't listen to the car. Luckily I was still able to reach a working one in the end (in Frankfurt) with 4% left or so that time.
It's also just about me learning when something doesn't work and immediately try something else. For an example, on my first change I went to one of the old V1 chargers that charge slow when 2 cars are connected, I didn't know that - so that was frustrating and for the future won't happen again.
I also once arrived at a charger only charging with 35 kw. Turns out it was a charger issue and I just had to use the charger next to and everything worked. However, when it happened, I didn't know that and thought it was an issue with my car. Frustrating then, but won't happen again in the future.
This time I know when I go to a EnBW charger and it doesn't charge immediately, I just need to try the cable next to, or a different charger. It's annoying that these things happen, you just don't have that issue with a petrol car. I've never had a gas pump only pump out 1 liter per minute, or even a gas pump not working at all.
Again, these are all negative experiences, but something I've learned from and hopefully won't cause frustration in the future. It's only the first time these things happen that it's incredibly annoying, especially as it's things that in 2024, should be possible to have working in a better way.
I went on a little road trip in my model 3 this summer. Drove over 10k km over 16 days. Slept in the car.
At no point did i have any problems with charging. Only used Teslas chargers because everyone knows they are by far the best.
During the whole trip, only one charger was not working, but my car told me about it before i arrived so i could avoid it.
This very far from a charging nightmare, it help the algorithm though 😅
Well 😇No but honestly, 1 hour of frustration is 3,600 seconds - every single second of you being annoyed why something isn't working the way it should. It's a lot. Obviously there are worse situations, and I'm sure in my future road-trips we'll encounter something much worse too. That video will then be called a "terror filled charging experience" 😉
I'm super impressed with the consumption of this beast at high speeds. It seems impossible, other cars get this consumption crusing at 110kph, and you were crusing at at least 160! Damn that's impressive. I can't imagine what the AWD long range is capable of. Good vid, Fench
To be fair, I did cut out the places with speed limit restrictions due to roadwork (80 zones) as well as driving through the cities to/from the Autobahn which will lower consumption somewhat. However, the consumption is very impressive nonetheless! The AWD LR is insane when it comes to consumption. I'm doing a comparison test soon and I honestly think it's 30% more efficient in a direct comparison. I've driven with my BIL in his LR and the efficiency is unbelievable.
I have been driving my M3 Highland RWD for 1 year and have been planning the Tesla Navi (SC) for 20,000 km. I regularly use the battery to only 2% despite LFP! It works so wonderfully and reliably. The preconditioning, the charging current and the charging time 2-65 are also great. Great BMS! I can't understand your problems...
For LFP batteries, discharging it entirely doesn't hurt the battery in the same way it would affect the LG battery in this one. The ideal SOC for these types of batteries is keeping within 45-75%, or 20-80%. Going lower or higher would affect the battery negatively, so I try and remain within the 10-85% range for keeping the battery as healthy as possible, long term. LFP batteries can safely be charged and discharged 100%, so you can plan your routes a bit differently than I - or at least to someone that tries and keep the battery at an optimum level for its type.
With that said, the route planning software in the Tesla still gave me these unexplained issues (i.e. not showing chargers around on the map, only nearby chargers). Today when I tried to replicate the issue from yesterday I wasn't able to. So perhaps it was a one-time issue? Perhaps related to having low battery and it then only displayed nearby for helping me? I couldn't say. I'm sure all of my issues are beginners issue too. Once I get used to driving and planning with an electric car, these should be non-existent, hopefully!
Nice video. Kind off topic question but do you use AI voice generator for the narrator or is it your real voice? Either way it works.. just curious because it sounds so polished.
Really nice! I have the exact same drone and car! Here in Amsterdam no mountains at all 😂. But you give me more than enough reasons to go out to the mountains some day! Prague I love also. I used to be also as early as possible on the Carls bridge. Greetz from Frank
@franktimmerman8480 cheers Frank! Planning a visit to Amsterdam actually, what would be your top 3 suggestions to check out, if you wouldn't mind sharing :-)
@@MisterFench There is so much to discover so these are some examples 1. From RAI P&R take the metro North-South to Central Station and take a walk to the DAM 2. Behind the central station cross the river "het ij" for free to the EYE museum and drink a cop of coffee 3. Climb (for free) the stairs outside to the top of NEMO and enjoy the view. Also the "scheepvaart" museum is a beautiful building from inside. Just a couple of ideas. ENJOY Amsterdam!
Maybe I missed it, but couldn't you just search for 'Supercharger" in the navigation? Is that not going to show further away options? Though I agree, the list should probably update as you move around the map.
I will try that next time, I just figured there should be an option built into the navigation - I mean, there is - it just doesn't seem to be working for a radius larger than x kilometres. Ideally it should auto-refresh as the map gets moved around, would only be logical? I can't possibly be the only one having this issue?
@@MisterFench Well, one thing is that at 3:06, it seems to only showing you chargers on the route to the supercharger, because, I guess, it already assumed you want to go there. You had 28km to the supercharger and it only suggested chargers up to 28km, so that's how I concluded that. Maybe if you canceled the supercharger visit, it would show you chargers on the route to your further destination.
But then I'm not sure why at 3:55 it only shows you close chargers, perhaps because it doesn't want you to go lower than like 20%? The label at the top also changed from "Chargers" to "Nearby charging", though I'm not sure why : )
@@NikiL2134 I'm not sure what happened, as it has also sometimes suggested SuperChargers I would arrive at with all the way down to 0%. Perhaps Tesla knew the Supercharger at 6% charge was closed and it wants to force me to de-route, so that I don't go to a third party charger? Maybe that's what happened? The app just made it so complicated to force me to charge at a Tesla Charger instead of bothering with finding a third party station?
Hey Fench, I guess Tesla watched your video, because they've added "search along route" :)
Why dont you give ABRP try? I would also highly recommend you to get an Instrument Cluster like the one Teslasy offers on their webisite.
It honestly shouldn't be necessary to use a third party app in order to get better route planning. That, to me, is crazy, no?
@@MisterFench Totally agree, but Tesla route planner is terrible, does not give options, and does not consider non-Tesla stations. So until Tesla decides to change this and sends an update, ABRP is a good option
@barbabriccozein2290 I did give it a try yesterday evening to check it out. It's actually everything that an in-car route planner should have! Very good, but also very frystrating it's necessary to use a third party planner.
I had my tesla for 2 years and never had any problems with charging. Before i leave anywhere on a long trip i just plan ahead at what superchargers i will be using and also check on google maps if all of them are working. Seems like the superchargers not showing might be on your end not sure why tho. For the chargers other than tesla i use EnBw mobility... it covers most of them in germany and europe. I had a few road trips over 2000 km doing this and never had a problem. Btw love your content... it's relaxing
I fully accept that you can plan ahead and you will not run into these sort of issues, perhaps it's also the way I have to do in the future to not have these issues, however. It seems this is more of a software issue with the route planner built into the car. I experimented with "ABRP" and it works exactly how I would expect the in-car infotainment to work in an electric car. There's filtering of charging providers, I can set my SOC on arrivals, customize pretty much everything how I would like to plan my own route. I mean, it's basically perfect. The annoying thing is that we really shouldn't have to rely on a third party software to plan our routes better than the car can itself. That is just mind boggling to me. Thanks for watching by the way, appreciate it!
I nearly always find a charging slot in the city of cologne!
Btw. I can recommend the Shell charging card as 2nd option, as it works everywhere!
@kingmiro thanks Miro 👍 I just got the EweGo (i think thats what it was called) should also work with a lot of other partners at decent prices
The menu isn’t always there under the compass. You might have to swipe or tap the menu to get it to appear on the right hand side of the map.
I live in Japan and there aren't many superchargers to begin with, but Japan itself it also geographically smaller than some countries so maybe that makes it easier to find a location. In addition, the superchargers are generally placed at strategic locations along the highways, so you don't have to think about it too much. I haven't had any problems when doing road trips though. It has all been very convenient. I've never used a non-Tesla charger though, so maybe that has something to do with it. Thanks for the great videos. I was stuck on ultra red, quicksilver, or white, but your videos are such good quality and detail it helped me to decide my next car! I went with the same M3P white exterior and black interior. Can't wait!
Congratulations Dave, great spec for it - I honestly think it's the best one. I also went for the white colour because it's still an issue for Tesla doing the other colours right (thin paint, not everywhere is properly painted, i.e. behind doors, hinges etc. And yes, if sticking to Tesla chargers it should be a breeze. I was apparently unfortunate in my travels (learned later), due to 2 of the Tesla Superchargers not being available on the route. You live and learn. Next time I will also not have the issue again. Getting the hang of this electric driving bit by bit 🙂
I use a better route planner. Tesla’s UI has weaknesses, i wish Tesla’s native interface let you filter chargers and locations (distance, level, location etc) hopefully they will eventually make it better with more feedback
@suzakukururugi6613 yes! That's exactly how I would want an in-car interface to work as well. Unfortunately I think that won't happen as they focus on simplicity. I think it's kind of Apple vs Android and they're Apple in this regard
Once you are in navigation mode if you press again on the navigation tab on your screen you will get an overview of the complete route, another press on the charger icon on the far right of the screen will show you the chargers, the only problem is that they are grayed out if they are not the ones already chosen by the app, so they might be harder to see if the route is long and the icons small. Zooming in on the map helps, and once you find one on the route that you like just add it as a waypoint.
Yes, the grey ones seem to be non-Tesla chargers, very difficult to see. However, that was the button I was using and it still only showed me "Nearby Chargers" for some reason?
@@MisterFenchit shows the nearby chargers if you are navigating and press the charger icon. Before you do that press again on the navigation tab and only then on the charger icon. The difference is that you see a complete overview of your route and you see the first supercharger in red, if you want another supercharger further away you can choose one along the route, even if they are gray you have a better chance of finding them if your route is marked on the map.
@@R.B-l2x I will have to experiment with that again tomorrow morning! I really hope it was just a user-error on my end and it is actually possible to plan it as I prefer! Thank you my friend, I'll try tomorrow!
Das Auto hat mehrere Male angezeigt das der Supercharger Sangerhausen vorübergehend geschlossen ist. (Wahrscheinlich wird er auf V4 umgerüstet)
why just trust the tesla app and take the recommended supercharger?!?
As I explained in the video, the recommended Supercharger put me on a detour away from the optimal direct route to my destination and I wanted to arrive at a charger with a lower charge. I've also tried route-planning where the Tesla App selects charging stations where it says I will arrive with 1% charge. For multiple reasons that is not an ideal. 1) what if I don't actually make it; what if there's an issue at the charging station (which I have now experienced multiple times), or something else. I really would prefer never to go less than 8% when going anywhere, just to have that safety buffer, in case something.
@@MisterFench I agree. If I ever do a long trip, I always run the pack low to get the full speed of the superchargers. Even though I rarely ever use them.
This is how you want to do it: put your destination in (in this case your home) and then go to "add stop", then press charging as a filter and see the superchargers along your route to your destination. Then try some or if you are an experienced Tesla user and are not too bad in Math you roughly calculate and choose the supercharger that fits the criteria of below 10 percent and above 5 percent. The temporarily closed ones you can directly see as the symbol of the supercharger appears different in the app. If you follow this guide it is always very easy to charge as fast as possible. But yes, this should already happen by default and why can't I put more filters like with how many percent I would like to arrive at my destination etc.
I would like to add that your video style, voice for narrating and content variation is very good. Thank you
@@philippvikari8905 Thank you Philipp, I will try that for the next planning! Much appreciated! 🙂
Perhaps it’s because i’m not such an experienced ev’ist but i would just have gone straight to the airport charger and forego charging speed on that occasion
I had a hard time finding 3rd party chargers for my ford mustang Mach-e. Each company wants their app and their account. It is very annoying. I’m getting my model 3 next week. There are a ton of tesla chargers on the north east corridor.
It's incredibly frustrating. Too many companies with their own charging service and prices, forcing you to sign up with them to get a cheaper charging price. I hope regulations put a stop to this. Well, I guess it's not much different than regular petrol stations when I think of it.
An den non supercharger bekommst du maximal 190kw weil die Stromstärke auf 500 Ampere begrenzt ist
Auch bei diesem angeblich 300 kW EnBW-Charger?
@@MisterFench ja, hab ich mit meinem Model 3 leider auch auf Grund der 500 Ampere, Charger meist Alpitronic
Get some tint on that fish bowl, just picked up my m3p about a week ago and had 5% tint applied all around 👍
Haha yeah I know, I know. Considering a 85% tint on the rear windows :)
Nice 10 min video. Keep it up with story driven long video on point.
In der App siehst du alle charger
I’m a simple man, I see a Fench video. I like and watch.
Haha, thank you! 🙏🙂
so tesla told you what to do you thought you knew better but didn’t and now blame it on tesla?
@chickenp7038 Actually, running the scenario through ABRP, it also would not have directed me to that charger. Instead, it would have guided me towards the one I ended up at. So it absolutely would have sent me on a detour, if I had blindly listened. Also the main issue I experienced was being limitedly shown chargers only within a short distance to my position
Wow you drive pretty fast considering you have your family on board .
When conditions allow, we may go upwards 170 - but only when conditions allow and in a safe manner; meaning keeping safe distances, slowing down if there are 2 cars close to each other, at all time keep an eye on wheels of passing cars, making sure they are not swirving, but staying put in lane, otherwise I slow down. Constantly have a foot ready to brake whenever we get near other cars, as well as the finger ready to flash lights, all at the same time.
You can drive fast in a safe manner, just as you can drive dangerously at slower speeds. The number one cause of accidents is the lack of keeping a safe distance and inattentive drivers. I always keep an eye out for both, much more than others, as I unfortunately witness every day. The main culprit is usually some Octavia that's flying around blind corners with 220 and pressuring anyone in front of him with a 10 meter distance. Ironically driving faster would keep you safer from idiots like these.
Das ist auch mein absoluter Albtraum. Für jede Säule braucht man wieder eine andere App etc. Super nervig und umständlich, leider. Es könnte so viel einfacher sein.
Genau ja - es könnte - sollte! 🙂
This is not true, you just need a single app and you can activate all non-Tesla charging stations. Octopus Electroverse is a good one, but also En-BW, Plugsurfing and Chargemap are good. Just choose one, get the RFID charging card and that's it.
You’re videos are great to watch :) And the model 3 is a perfect car. I drive the model 3 RWD with the LFP battery. When we travel to Germany I always keep the speed on the autobahn between 125-135km/h. It saves a lot of time changing. If you want to see all the Tesla superchargers you can open the phone app and select te “charge other electric vehicle” now you see all the chargers on the map. Select the one you want and type the name in de car navigation. I hope that helps!
Wow, thank you! The charge map in the phone is exactly what I was trying to find in the car-app! How come something like that isn't available in the car infotainment, baffles me. I guess due to regulations for monopoly/competition against other chargers, but still - at least make a filter possible then.
Alter das wäre mir zu stressig. Ständig so low fahren kurzum effizient zu laden und dann wie du Panik Mode schieben. Hätte gern ein Model Y aber sowas hält mich immer noch davon ab.
Um ehrlich zu sein, denke ich, dass es bei Elektroautos in erster Linie eine Frage der Gewöhnung ist, Dinge etwas anders zu machen und anders zu fahren als bei einem Benzinauto. Man lernt auch aus jeder negativen Erfahrung und weiß dann beim nächsten Mal, was man anders machen muss. Ich bin mir sicher, dass ich in ein paar Wochen aus all meinen Fehlern gelernt habe und solche Situationen dann nicht mehr passieren, weil ich gelernt habe, wie man richtig damit umgeht, wenn man ein E-Auto fährt.Nervig ist es aber wenn sowas passiert.
User error.
You spent so much time messing around with chargers, and, as you admit, an hour of you messing with the screen (and GOING TO WEBSITES ffs, unbelievably stupid to do when driving) and not paying attention to the road and putting everyone at risk, when you could have just gone to the charger nav instructed you to, saved money and time and had a much safer and less stressfull journey.
You did this to yourself.
use voice command : Navigate to Tesla supercharger. Might work in your case
more glad i went with my 6000usd phev. 50 miles ev range is really all you need. once you talk about stuporcharging, everyone wishes they didnt have an ev. here where i live gas is actually much cheaper than supercharging. i buy a bunch extra at the indian reservation and keep it in my garage and use a transfer pump to fill up. we are our own gas station. the solar roof i installed for 200 bucks usually pays for 2 gal of gas worth of charging each week. 21usd/mo insurance, these are things you cant do with a nice fancy tesla without hurting its value.
Makes total sense when you have that option available to you. For someone like us that are both regular short and long distance drivers, a Diesel-Hybrid with 70 miles of electric range would probably be the sensible choice. This one is more of a fun toy that we do our best to work with our lifestyle. Everything now is still new and exciting and I'm interested in seeing what we feel about it 1 or 2 years down the line.
just go to the airport superchargers, problem solved
Anything Elon makes is trash.
😂
charging is much better in the US
Thats not difficult if you compare it with germanies high prices 😂