For my viewers that prefer the data in miles, here are the conversions for km/mi: 150 kph = 93.21 mph 130 kph = 80.77 mph 110 kph = 68.35 mph 90 kph = 55.92 mph Consumption figures: 257 Wh/km = 413 Wh/mi 210 Wh/km = 337 Wh/mi 173 Wh/km = 278 Wh/mi 146 Wh/km = 234 Wh/mi Completely forgot to add it in the edit. Was a long day. Cheers!
Ha, this literally addressed what I was going to comment. Love the content, and would love these conversations in the vid for us people on the other side of the pond. Side note you might be interested in, I put lighter 18 inch wheels on my M3P, over the past 2k miles I’m averaging right around 220 Wh/mi. Crazy range.
I have been watching your videos since the 1st one, as I made my Tesla review right around that time as well. I love how authentic each one of your videos is, please keep it up!
@@kcw9313 accuracy isn’t always required for measurements once you’ve orientated your results with one’s measurements and real experiences. His baseline observations are appreciated.
@@kcw9313 it's not always going to be smack on 130, there will be variation, but it's extremely helpful to see the actual consumption for those of us who drive at 150kph for extended periods. Almost all range tests are hypermiling or, at the very most, driving at 70mph which is just slow on the autobahn.
This is just perfect Fench! Got mine last week and had a trip from The Netherlands to Bremen on the autobahn. The car was amazing with four adults almost keeping up with a R8 V10 for around 2 hours stepping on it. What a car! 🙏🏼
Congratulations on picking a great car! The power is fantastic. Nearly doesn't matter how much you load into the car, it will just pull and pull - but I guess that's what 740nm will do 🙂 Cheers!
I am driving Tesla car’s regularly from 2014 . Those “old” model S are very comfort cars, but a range in model 75,85 it’s not the best on the highways. But model 90 and 100, LR are really good deal. Then 2021 I have bought Tesla model 3 LR, that car was amazing for long journeys. Then, this year in June Tesla model 3 Highlander LR. Car it’s just amazing, at highway cruising speed at 110 consumption it’s just 13-15kw/100 km, at 130 km/h it’s 17-18kw. I am very pleased because range it’s just amazing and to charge with passport on Ioniq/Tesla are extremely cheap.
The LR cars are insane when it comes to consumption. I don't think there's any other car beating them in terms of efficiency! Really really impressive. It's a shame that 18" wheels don't fit the Performance model, as I'd love to test that and see if consumption could get close to the LR numbers
@@MisterFench Try Xpeng G6 LR. Much more better car then the Tesla model Y. Cheaper also, better ride hide, better comfort, much more better premium feeling, also very economical.
Nice videos! Love the way they’re filmed, edited and narrated, all with some cool synths in the background. Maybe a road trip back to the UK on the cards?
Appreciate it! UK is a bit too far right now with the little one. We do want to head over though, our son just needs to get a bit older so he's easier to travel with 🙂
Excellent content. Keep up the great work. i have a suggestion on the 100-200 tests.....please find a dead level and straight stretch to consistently compare times and also between different cars. Even a slight turn or incline will have a big effect on the times. Also double check tyre pressures before each test. 👍
@tfsidsg 🙏🙏 appreciate it! Finding a dead level and straight stretch is a bit difficult in this area. I'l possibly add timing gear that can properly measure results though. Will see in the future 😉🫡😇
Thank you Fench for this amazing efficiency comparison! You definitely earned big kudos for the great measurements, and the music timing with the acceleration in the video was on point! One question I had is whether you’re planning to make any modifications to your car in the future, given that you're using it primarily as a transportation medium. If so, what kind of modifications are you considering? Also, I’m curious-how did you learn these nice editing skills? The video was really well done!
Thank you so much. Glad to hear the efforts are appreciated. As for modifications, I'm not sure yet to be honest. I prefer to keep things more or less stock, besides perhaps adding a few accessories. I do plan on tinting the rear windows - Tesla really should add that as an option. I would gladly pay $500 extra for the to have been done by the factory prior to delivery. As for editing skills, I downloaded the free Davinci Resolve editor and pretty much learned myself how to edit. TH-cam is a great learning resource, as everytime I needed to learn how to do something (raising/lowering volume etc.) there are tons of tutorials that will show you how. That's pretty much how I learned. Thanks again for your kind words!
Hier ist super der Luftwiderstand zu erkennen, der von der Geschwindigkeit im Quadrat abhängt, was wiederum den überproportional steigenden Verbrauch im Vergleich zur gesteigerten Geschwindigkeit erklärt. Top Video übrigens, gerade diese "sauberen" konstanten Fahrten fehlen oft in solchen reviews.
Was ich an diesem Test interessant finde, ist, dass der Verbrauch im Verhältnis zur Geschwindigkeit bei 130 und 90 gleich ist und bei 110 sogar besser als bei 90.
@@nomansland120 ha - Tatsache! Könnten dann eigentlich nur "Grundverbraucher" sein, die zu diesem Effekt führen und die von der Rechnung dann auszuklammern sind
I wish we would get the 19" forged wheel here in Germany so I can use it for winter-tires! I don't know why it's only available for the Chinese market :/
Hi Fench, starting to follow you from some days, mega job with the videos. Should be mega even if you put some coating in the car and in the front windshield.
Appreciate it mate! Not sure about these coatings to be honest. It seems like an awful lot of money for something with just a negligible effect? I don't mind stone chipping the car to be honest. To me, it's just something that comes with owning a car. I also don't remember ever having conversations about protective film back in the early 2000's when I first started driving. I think it's a new phenomenon, at least for non-supercar cars like this 🙂
@@MisterFench ppf is really good but expensive. The COATING is not so expensive but can help you while cleaning the car! White is just easier for cleaning because it's not glossy but the way. The most easy thing i can suggest you is the nano coat on the glass, and you will drive without whipers basically forever except in really low speed. I use to make some video of cleaning (not with Your mega quality to be honest) but if you want, you can spot some good product! See you in the next one
@@andreatoffolo3488 Thanks mate, I'll have a look! The nano coat seems interesting. Love the view of raindrops flying away similar to the ludicrous badge 🙂 My carwash has an option for a sealant, but I'm sure it's only fractionally as good as the nano coating you mention. Will check it out, cheers!
As a detailer, I’d like to add that one of the major safety benefits of using a good windshield treatment is that it reduces the need for wipers, especially in heavy rain on the autobahn-particularly useful in Germany, where it's always sunny... 😉. The rain just flies off the windshield without holding back. What I highly recommend is the Soft 99 Glaco Roll On. First, give your windshield a thorough wash. After applying the product, wait a few minutes, then wipe off the residue with a microfiber towel. This should keep you covered for about 3 to 6 months!
Performance is also dictated by battery temperature; 120-125F is ideal. A cold or colder battery which hurt your test times. Try routing your car in navigation to a Supercharger wait 10-15 minutes and run your test again.
I fully accept that there are ways to ideally prep an electric car for maximal performance. However, I prefer to show and test without taking these things into consideration. I appreciate that the car may be faster doing certain preparations, but I also kind of find that would be disingenuous to showing real world testing results. I think the results that count, are what people can realistically expect when they're out driving their car in normal conditions. With all that said, probably my battery was a bit colder than it ideally should have been. I drove to the AB in chill modus and also had a brief stop where I gave it a wash, so I could properly film out the windows ;)
nice video man, i would like to see a 100-200kmph test accross 90-20% SOC in sport mode since its 300kwh sustained powerouput and we might see pretty even times there
@akaye7333 There's definitely a noticeable difference in power delivery once you get lower than 65% SOC. Should I ever reach 10k subscribers, I'll celebrate with buying some proper timing gear and make 100% accurate measurements. 👍
@@MisterFench the power drop is more or less standy and not really bound to 65% SOC. Im just saying in Sport mode rather than Insane mode your getting steady power of 300kw which should smoothen the curve of 100-200kmph times accross all SOCs
@@MisterFench oh ok, might be called standard aswell. standard should be 300kw steady power while insane gives all the available output possible at any SOC and temperature. i would appreciate if you could run 100-200kmph in standard mode a few times on different SOCs :))
What was your battery temperature for the 100-200 test? Because 0-100 is less affected by not full soc than 100-200 simply because the battery power is sustained for the 100-200 but is only rewuested full poerr from 80-100. The 0-80 is a ramp up of power from 0kmh. Yoir battery need to be pre conditionned for better results
Not sure what the battery temperature was, as I did not measure it. The outside temperature however was only around 6 degrees, so I'm sure it wasn't the ideal conditions - however, it was real life conditions and that I think is what counts the most, as that's what owners will experience themselves in day to day.
@@MisterFench yes that is what real life should be. But if you compare results from a previous run without taking account of battery temperature , this might be your answer about the difference that you experienced😉
@@MisterFench How about you try these tests again after a tesla supercharger. Then your battery will be already hot over 50 C degreess Thats the optimum temparture to get the most power out of it. But overall impressive times my m3p 2022 is on average 1-2 second slower Especially on low SoC . with 30% left i am gettinf 13-14 seconds. With what are u measuring btw?
@@VxO4fame Is your M3P 22 a Pana or LG version? I'm measuring based on speedo, so it's not entirely accurate. I.e. I cut out the section in video-editing where it shows 100 and then use the timeline to measure the time at 200. Since my timeline is 30 fps, I then multiply the frame count at 200 with 3.33 for the correct milliseconds. Again. It's not super accurate, but I suppose accurate enough. If I ever hit 10k subscribers I'll probably invest in proper timing gear 🙂
I'm not sure what the cause was. While the outside temperature was lower, the car was running for at least 20-30 minutes prior to going on the run, so the battery temperature should have been ready to perform. I also did the procedure identically to last time (i.e. driving in chill to the AB and switching to insane just before the run). Maybe it was also just a fluke. In the second 100-200 run, it out-performed my previous video for the same spot. AutoTopNL also mentioned there were some discrepancies in their performance testing of it.
I completely agree, however, in my findings - interestingly enough, the difference in speed going from 90 to 110 is a 22% increase - but the increase in consumption is only 18%. Meaning consumption won't always grow exponentially, as elevation/roll resistance play a determining factor too. At least up until a certain speed, then it falls off again and air drag gets too strong.
As far as I know, Track Mode actually limits performance ever so slightly in order to provide more stable long-term track performance (well, long-term for Tesla means a couple of minutes). Battery temp was probably the culprit here
For me, 100%. The more aggressive styling, the bigger wheels, the seats, the carbon trim etc. all make up for the higher price and slightly lower efficiency.
@@Robot-T1 no vibrations, just that the smallest touch or force on the wheel immediately results in steering input. The deadzone is much too direct on Teslas
@sworksm552 and I'm sure with proper timing gear, a completely level surface, this M3P will easily beat that time! Ileven with the LG battery, I've seen a lot of 8.x results from Dragy!
I totally agree with you. I had the Panasonic and now the LG battery. I love the LG, lower degradation, more power @ lower SoC and lower temperature... The new Model 3 Performance is a beast.
@sworksm552 the fact that degradation is lower is for me also more important than a bit better performance, as if I'm being honest, the only times I really use the full performance of this car is solely when making these videos 😇 day to day it just doesn't come into play.
@kcw9313 I also have the steel variant but often prefer to wear this due do the better weight distribution. In terms of that, the top heavy milgauss is of course an entirelt different story 😅
I have plot on a graph your consumption Vs Speed and the graph is practically linear. Thats shown that the air friction does not increase the consumption in an exponential way as i assumed.
@JC-hz9en my theory is that the elevation changes disrupt the exponential theory. In an ideal scenario with a 100% flat surface things may look different. I have another video coming up this week with some further diving into the consumption in new conditions
Yes, in this case, it is almost linear, as shown below (kWh/100km): fitresult(x) = p1x² + p2x + p3 Coefficients (with 95% confidence intervals): p1 = 0.00125 (0.00125, 0.00125) p2 = -0.115 (-0.115, -0.115) p3 = 14.83 (14.82, 14.83) Additionally, I have plotted the time needed to cover 100 km (h/100km), and there is a very interesting equilibrium between time and power around 120 km/h. Can I send you the figure?
The 2024 M3P doesn't have nearly as much of a drop and pulls far deeper than previous performance models. I test drove one and it punches hard through 110mph
Useless test. The real test and no one want to do it, is to drive at 130km/h, to see how many km would go. That is real test, for driving outside the city.
@@alinsimion3630 Well. You won't be able to find that long of a stretch to be able to continuously drive with 130 km/h, draining the battery from 100 to 0%. The best you can do is work with theory. In my test, the consistent 130 kph run, gave the result of 210 Wh/km. I know from other drives, that the figure here is slightly higher than reality, due to elevated terrain. I.e. the 110 kph result of 173, is probably closer to 150 in a bit more mixed terrain. In that regard, let's take the consumption of 210 and adjust it to 193. With a 76 kWh net battery pack, that would give you a theoretical range of 394 km. However, it's a moot point, because nothing is comparable in the world of consumption analysis. Where one could get a range of 400km, another may only get 300 because he is driving in different temperatures, in different elevation, on a different and more rough asphalt. Tire pressure could also be different. Rims could be different. There are too many factors that come into play. The best thing you can do is to take these numbers with a grain of salt, like I said in the video. If you find the numbers useful, great, if not - that's also okay. Then I however suppose no range test will satisfy you, taking the above into consideration.
For my viewers that prefer the data in miles, here are the conversions for km/mi:
150 kph = 93.21 mph
130 kph = 80.77 mph
110 kph = 68.35 mph
90 kph = 55.92 mph
Consumption figures:
257 Wh/km = 413 Wh/mi
210 Wh/km = 337 Wh/mi
173 Wh/km = 278 Wh/mi
146 Wh/km = 234 Wh/mi
Completely forgot to add it in the edit. Was a long day. Cheers!
Ha, this literally addressed what I was going to comment. Love the content, and would love these conversations in the vid for us people on the other side of the pond. Side note you might be interested in, I put lighter 18 inch wheels on my M3P, over the past 2k miles I’m averaging right around 220 Wh/mi. Crazy range.
This efficiency is nuts
YES, cruising at 180 is a German problem.
I have been watching your videos since the 1st one, as I made my Tesla review right around that time as well. I love how authentic each one of your videos is, please keep it up!
I appreciate that, a lot! Cheers!
Your channel is a hidden gem! Thank you for these videos, they are awesome!
@tvelichkov much appreciated!!
Nice video! Deserve more attention.
This is, absolutely hands down, the most useful EV car review ever! Thank you very much!!! Tesla should promote (buy) this video from you.
I'm happy to accept some supercharger credits from them 😉
how's it useful? The speedo's not accurate.
@@kcw9313 accuracy isn’t always required for measurements once you’ve orientated your results with one’s measurements and real experiences. His baseline observations are appreciated.
@@kcw9313 it's not always going to be smack on 130, there will be variation, but it's extremely helpful to see the actual consumption for those of us who drive at 150kph for extended periods. Almost all range tests are hypermiling or, at the very most, driving at 70mph which is just slow on the autobahn.
This is just perfect Fench! Got mine last week and had a trip from The Netherlands to Bremen on the autobahn. The car was amazing with four adults almost keeping up with a R8 V10 for around 2 hours stepping on it. What a car! 🙏🏼
Congratulations on picking a great car! The power is fantastic. Nearly doesn't matter how much you load into the car, it will just pull and pull - but I guess that's what 740nm will do 🙂 Cheers!
Awesome video. Should get more attention to be honest.
Glad you think so!
Nice edits dude.
🙏
Díky!
Great video!
Excellent consumption for a performance vehicle !!!
I am driving Tesla car’s regularly from 2014 . Those “old” model S are very comfort cars, but a range in model 75,85 it’s not the best on the highways. But model 90 and 100, LR are really good deal. Then 2021 I have bought Tesla model 3 LR, that car was amazing for long journeys. Then, this year in June Tesla model 3 Highlander LR. Car it’s just amazing, at highway cruising speed at 110 consumption it’s just 13-15kw/100 km, at 130 km/h it’s 17-18kw. I am very pleased because range it’s just amazing and to charge with passport on Ioniq/Tesla are extremely cheap.
The LR cars are insane when it comes to consumption. I don't think there's any other car beating them in terms of efficiency! Really really impressive. It's a shame that 18" wheels don't fit the Performance model, as I'd love to test that and see if consumption could get close to the LR numbers
@@MisterFench Try Xpeng G6 LR. Much more better car then the Tesla model Y. Cheaper also, better ride hide, better comfort, much more better premium feeling, also very economical.
@@MisterFench 18 inch wheels do fit the Performance model. 18x8.5 ET 35.
@@svilensavov6543 also the 2024 highland with upgraded brakes??
I think yes - th-cam.com/video/0dAJoGz4bx0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=F9Z6vyW6qtiATGeg at 0:20
Tolles Video, keep going !
Really awesome videos, you are the only one that actually shows what I want to see 😊
🙂🙏 Cheers my friend
This video is of incredable quality for the channel size!
@HerbertMuller-ek5iu thank you so very much! 🙏🫡
Brilliant mate
Great analysis 🤝🏻
Your videos are great and informative. 🎉🎉 Do not disappoint us, please keep going and post videos on a regular basis.
Thank you! Will do! 🙏
The last shot😳🥵
love ur videos man!
@@lorenzoeccher2315 🙏🙏🫡
Nice videos! Love the way they’re filmed, edited and narrated, all with some cool synths in the background.
Maybe a road trip back to the UK on the cards?
Appreciate it! UK is a bit too far right now with the little one. We do want to head over though, our son just needs to get a bit older so he's easier to travel with 🙂
Complimenti per come hai tenuto i 150 fissi senza autopilot, hai un piede molto preciso!
Seems more than what I have experienced and what I have seen in some other videos.
Excellent content. Keep up the great work.
i have a suggestion on the 100-200 tests.....please find a dead level and straight stretch to consistently compare times and also between different cars. Even a slight turn or incline will have a big effect on the times.
Also double check tyre pressures before each test.
👍
@tfsidsg 🙏🙏 appreciate it! Finding a dead level and straight stretch is a bit difficult in this area. I'l possibly add timing gear that can properly measure results though. Will see in the future 😉🫡😇
Thank you Fench for this amazing efficiency comparison! You definitely earned big kudos for the great measurements, and the music timing with the acceleration in the video was on point!
One question I had is whether you’re planning to make any modifications to your car in the future, given that you're using it primarily as a transportation medium. If so, what kind of modifications are you considering?
Also, I’m curious-how did you learn these nice editing skills? The video was really well done!
Thank you so much. Glad to hear the efforts are appreciated. As for modifications, I'm not sure yet to be honest. I prefer to keep things more or less stock, besides perhaps adding a few accessories. I do plan on tinting the rear windows - Tesla really should add that as an option. I would gladly pay $500 extra for the to have been done by the factory prior to delivery. As for editing skills, I downloaded the free Davinci Resolve editor and pretty much learned myself how to edit. TH-cam is a great learning resource, as everytime I needed to learn how to do something (raising/lowering volume etc.) there are tons of tutorials that will show you how. That's pretty much how I learned. Thanks again for your kind words!
08:15 nice~! thx. M3P 2024 owner from S.Korea
good content
Hier ist super der Luftwiderstand zu erkennen, der von der Geschwindigkeit im Quadrat abhängt, was wiederum den überproportional steigenden Verbrauch im Vergleich zur gesteigerten Geschwindigkeit erklärt. Top Video übrigens, gerade diese "sauberen" konstanten Fahrten fehlen oft in solchen reviews.
Was ich an diesem Test interessant finde, ist, dass der Verbrauch im Verhältnis zur Geschwindigkeit bei 130 und 90 gleich ist und bei 110 sogar besser als bei 90.
@@nomansland120 ha - Tatsache! Könnten dann eigentlich nur "Grundverbraucher" sein, die zu diesem Effekt führen und die von der Rechnung dann auszuklammern sind
Please do a consumption test with SR and LR. I wonder whether the smaller battery on the SR makes a difference on consumption
@Quixorion will try and get my hands on one, or both in the upcoming weeks
in china, I have 19 inch wheel, I did a similar test, at 110km/h the energy consumption is about 160
I wish we would get the 19" forged wheel here in Germany so I can use it for winter-tires! I don't know why it's only available for the Chinese market :/
Hi Fench, starting to follow you from some days, mega job with the videos. Should be mega even if you put some coating in the car and in the front windshield.
Appreciate it mate! Not sure about these coatings to be honest. It seems like an awful lot of money for something with just a negligible effect? I don't mind stone chipping the car to be honest. To me, it's just something that comes with owning a car. I also don't remember ever having conversations about protective film back in the early 2000's when I first started driving. I think it's a new phenomenon, at least for non-supercar cars like this 🙂
@@MisterFench ppf is really good but expensive.
The COATING is not so expensive but can help you while cleaning the car!
White is just easier for cleaning because it's not glossy but the way.
The most easy thing i can suggest you is the nano coat on the glass, and you will drive without whipers basically forever except in really low speed.
I use to make some video of cleaning (not with Your mega quality to be honest) but if you want, you can spot some good product!
See you in the next one
@@andreatoffolo3488 Thanks mate, I'll have a look! The nano coat seems interesting. Love the view of raindrops flying away similar to the ludicrous badge 🙂 My carwash has an option for a sealant, but I'm sure it's only fractionally as good as the nano coating you mention. Will check it out, cheers!
As a detailer, I’d like to add that one of the major safety benefits of using a good windshield treatment is that it reduces the need for wipers, especially in heavy rain on the autobahn-particularly useful in Germany, where it's always sunny... 😉. The rain just flies off the windshield without holding back.
What I highly recommend is the Soft 99 Glaco Roll On. First, give your windshield a thorough wash. After applying the product, wait a few minutes, then wipe off the residue with a microfiber towel. This should keep you covered for about 3 to 6 months!
Performance is also dictated by battery temperature; 120-125F is ideal. A cold or colder battery which hurt your test times. Try routing your car in navigation to a Supercharger wait 10-15 minutes and run your test again.
I fully accept that there are ways to ideally prep an electric car for maximal performance. However, I prefer to show and test without taking these things into consideration. I appreciate that the car may be faster doing certain preparations, but I also kind of find that would be disingenuous to showing real world testing results. I think the results that count, are what people can realistically expect when they're out driving their car in normal conditions. With all that said, probably my battery was a bit colder than it ideally should have been. I drove to the AB in chill modus and also had a brief stop where I gave it a wash, so I could properly film out the windows ;)
Great test! Can you do the same test on the new Long Range Model 3 AWD?
I'm trying to get my hands on one for long enough time that I can do a comparison. Hopefully I manage in these next couple of weeks
nice video man, i would like to see a 100-200kmph test accross 90-20% SOC in sport mode since its 300kwh sustained powerouput and we might see pretty even times there
@akaye7333 There's definitely a noticeable difference in power delivery once you get lower than 65% SOC. Should I ever reach 10k subscribers, I'll celebrate with buying some proper timing gear and make 100% accurate measurements. 👍
@@MisterFench the power drop is more or less standy and not really bound to 65% SOC. Im just saying in Sport mode rather than Insane mode your getting steady power of 300kw which should smoothen the curve of 100-200kmph times accross all SOCs
@@akaye7333 I have Chill, Standard and Insane mode available, but standard is definitely slower than insane
@@MisterFench oh ok, might be called standard aswell. standard should be 300kw steady power while insane gives all the available output possible at any SOC and temperature. i would appreciate if you could run 100-200kmph in standard mode a few times on different SOCs :))
What was your battery temperature for the 100-200 test? Because 0-100 is less affected by not full soc than 100-200 simply because the battery power is sustained for the 100-200 but is only rewuested full poerr from 80-100. The 0-80 is a ramp up of power from 0kmh. Yoir battery need to be pre conditionned for better results
Not sure what the battery temperature was, as I did not measure it. The outside temperature however was only around 6 degrees, so I'm sure it wasn't the ideal conditions - however, it was real life conditions and that I think is what counts the most, as that's what owners will experience themselves in day to day.
@@MisterFench yes that is what real life should be. But if you compare results from a previous run without taking account of battery temperature , this might be your answer about the difference that you experienced😉
@Doctorbasss ahh got it. I misunderstood your initial intention for the comment, apologies 🙏😉👍
@@MisterFench
How about you try these tests again after a tesla supercharger. Then your battery will be already hot over 50 C degreess
Thats the optimum temparture to get the most power out of it. But overall impressive times my m3p 2022 is on average 1-2 second slower
Especially on low SoC . with 30% left i am gettinf 13-14 seconds.
With what are u measuring btw?
@@VxO4fame Is your M3P 22 a Pana or LG version? I'm measuring based on speedo, so it's not entirely accurate. I.e. I cut out the section in video-editing where it shows 100 and then use the timeline to measure the time at 200. Since my timeline is 30 fps, I then multiply the frame count at 200 with 3.33 for the correct milliseconds. Again. It's not super accurate, but I suppose accurate enough. If I ever hit 10k subscribers I'll probably invest in proper timing gear 🙂
Maybe the battery temperature is lower in comparison to the last test what results in less available power?
I'm not sure what the cause was. While the outside temperature was lower, the car was running for at least 20-30 minutes prior to going on the run, so the battery temperature should have been ready to perform. I also did the procedure identically to last time (i.e. driving in chill to the AB and switching to insane just before the run). Maybe it was also just a fluke. In the second 100-200 run, it out-performed my previous video for the same spot. AutoTopNL also mentioned there were some discrepancies in their performance testing of it.
Air drag grows exponentially so the power consumption will grow exponentially too.
I completely agree, however, in my findings - interestingly enough, the difference in speed going from 90 to 110 is a 22% increase - but the increase in consumption is only 18%. Meaning consumption won't always grow exponentially, as elevation/roll resistance play a determining factor too. At least up until a certain speed, then it falls off again and air drag gets too strong.
track-mode? and better battery-temp ;)
As far as I know, Track Mode actually limits performance ever so slightly in order to provide more stable long-term track performance (well, long-term for Tesla means a couple of minutes). Battery temp was probably the culprit here
So was it really worth the extra money to get the performance version of the Tesla Model 3?
For me, 100%. The more aggressive styling, the bigger wheels, the seats, the carbon trim etc. all make up for the higher price and slightly lower efficiency.
What does he mean by twitchiness, is the steering wheel vibrating?
@@Robot-T1 no vibrations, just that the smallest touch or force on the wheel immediately results in steering input. The deadzone is much too direct on Teslas
Are the 150km/h and 130km/h Tests also in chill mode?
Greetz
@bastiw5848 Yes, all the range tests are done in chill mode. 👍
Vibriert dein Lenkrad auch ab ca. 130kmh+ (leicht)?
Am Anfang gab es auch bei mir sehr starke Vibrationen am Lenkrad bei einer Geschwindigkeit ab 90 km/h. Nach dem ersten Ladestopp war es aber weg.
An Audi RS3 performance edition is only a little bit faster from 100-200km/h 9,42s. Look at the actual Autobild...
@sworksm552 and I'm sure with proper timing gear, a completely level surface, this M3P will easily beat that time! Ileven with the LG battery, I've seen a lot of 8.x results from Dragy!
I totally agree with you. I had the Panasonic and now the LG battery. I love the LG, lower degradation, more power @ lower SoC and lower temperature... The new Model 3 Performance is a beast.
@sworksm552 the fact that degradation is lower is for me also more important than a bit better performance, as if I'm being honest, the only times I really use the full performance of this car is solely when making these videos 😇 day to day it just doesn't come into play.
Broke out the Daytona today I see. I guess this one wasn’t scientific (as you normally wear the milgaus😂).
No, I wasn't too happy with the science on this test 😇😄🙏
Too bad it's not the all steel. Two tones are less valued. Much less.
@kcw9313 I also have the steel variant but often prefer to wear this due do the better weight distribution. In terms of that, the top heavy milgauss is of course an entirelt different story 😅
@@kcw9313 Maybe he likes it, who knows 🤣. Let the guy enjoy his watches, it is not all about secondary market value.
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That car on an empty Autobahn at 130 km/h is not appropriate. The poor thing wants to run man.
Consumption is exponential to speed
I have plot on a graph your consumption Vs Speed and the graph is practically linear. Thats shown that the air friction does not increase the consumption in an exponential way as i assumed.
@JC-hz9en my theory is that the elevation changes disrupt the exponential theory. In an ideal scenario with a 100% flat surface things may look different. I have another video coming up this week with some further diving into the consumption in new conditions
Yes, in this case, it is almost linear, as shown below (kWh/100km):
fitresult(x) = p1x² + p2x + p3
Coefficients (with 95% confidence intervals):
p1 = 0.00125 (0.00125, 0.00125)
p2 = -0.115 (-0.115, -0.115)
p3 = 14.83 (14.82, 14.83)
Additionally, I have plotted the time needed to cover 100 km (h/100km), and there is a very interesting equilibrium between time and power around 120 km/h. Can I send you the figure?
Gave up on the M3P (2022), power drop under 60% SoC, no power at all below 30% when you press the pedal and top speed is reduced after 1-2min to
The 2024 M3P doesn't have nearly as much of a drop and pulls far deeper than previous performance models. I test drove one and it punches hard through 110mph
Useless test. The real test and no one want to do it, is to drive at 130km/h, to see how many km would go. That is real test, for driving outside the city.
@@alinsimion3630 394 kilometers
@@MisterFench film it, but i don t think so. What autonomy does it have?
@@alinsimion3630 Well. You won't be able to find that long of a stretch to be able to continuously drive with 130 km/h, draining the battery from 100 to 0%. The best you can do is work with theory. In my test, the consistent 130 kph run, gave the result of 210 Wh/km.
I know from other drives, that the figure here is slightly higher than reality, due to elevated terrain. I.e. the 110 kph result of 173, is probably closer to 150 in a bit more mixed terrain. In that regard, let's take the consumption of 210 and adjust it to 193. With a 76 kWh net battery pack, that would give you a theoretical range of 394 km. However, it's a moot point, because nothing is comparable in the world of consumption analysis.
Where one could get a range of 400km, another may only get 300 because he is driving in different temperatures, in different elevation, on a different and more rough asphalt. Tire pressure could also be different. Rims could be different. There are too many factors that come into play.
The best thing you can do is to take these numbers with a grain of salt, like I said in the video. If you find the numbers useful, great, if not - that's also okay. Then I however suppose no range test will satisfy you, taking the above into consideration.
@@MisterFench if you drive 10km, it is not relevant, not even in ice cars. Drive safe.
Speedo's not accurate
Yes they are, they are GPS calibrated in teslas