My 10 Personal Favorite Hoenn (3rd Gen) Pokemon

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  • @victikirby15
    @victikirby15 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now that ORAS is out, the "any special water attack" in Kyogre's move set has basically been replaced with Origin Pulse

    • @psychie8625
      @psychie8625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But Origin Pulse can miss under normal circumstances, and Surf can't...

  • @PrimeroJinJusuke
    @PrimeroJinJusuke 11 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Sceptile is my favorite Pokémon of all time.

    • @MrSherman98cp
      @MrSherman98cp 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello brother. :)

    • @Greenpanda999
      @Greenpanda999 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Simon Bonezay I prefer Grovyle he just looks so badass :D

    • @3DSwordsman
      @3DSwordsman 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here, of course

    • @rynetabor8444
      @rynetabor8444 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3DSwordsman yussssss

    • @alexkelecich9543
      @alexkelecich9543 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4qzo5Zl9q1rpn9eno1_500.gif
      Hell. Yes.

  • @zerg6205
    @zerg6205 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love watching your videos because you know games so well, have great logic in your analyzing, and your voice is so awesome! Not only do you help prepare me for making games, you remind me why I even want to make games in the first place: to bring forth new, legendary games into the world that people will love to play and analyze to make even better games.

  • @MarcusExum97
    @MarcusExum97 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really well made video, entertaining, and had a ton of well executed jokes! Great job! It was just a joy to watch!

  • @Galavantworks
    @Galavantworks 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sceptile honestly didn't get much in Gen VI, however effective physical Unburden Sceptile's are now easier to run with Power Up punch and replacing Fighting gem for Flying gem to help boost Power-Up punch rather than Acrobatics. To be frank it's a good fighting type move to give potential physical sweepers more to strive for because of it's attack boosting ability while supporting a very good type coverage against steely walls that gives the option of Leaf Blade Sceptile something to look forward to.

    • @unwithering5313
      @unwithering5313 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If anything Sceptile should have got Speed Boost not Blaziken; then again 'Game Freak Customs' at play again

  • @robbysturtevant2562
    @robbysturtevant2562 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my god! I love sceptile so much. I use him all the time in my playthroughs of emerald. So many times sceptile is left unnoticed while blaiziken and swampert get all the praise. I'm just so happy he's number one on your list!

  • @cjszero01
    @cjszero01  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Come on guys, don't give me the cold shoulder."
    It felt a little forced which was another reason I removed it.

  • @YoshifreakZX
    @YoshifreakZX 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    10. Swampert
    9. Salamence
    8. Blaziken
    7. Registeel
    6. Latios
    5. Groudon
    4. Kyogre
    3. Sceptile
    2. Deoxys
    1. Rayquaza

  • @Azdaja13
    @Azdaja13 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmm, I love how Mawile is a deceiver with a massive mouth on the back of it's head. Kinda like Girafarig but more my style. Plus Steel is my favourite type.

  • @NessVlogMusic
    @NessVlogMusic 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I applaud you for adding my starter Sceptile and Zangoose was my second Shiny Pokemon. Good list.

  • @masterreviewer1000
    @masterreviewer1000 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job cj. Like these pokemon list so far. Are you also going to do a top 10 least favorite pokemon on each of the 5 gens too?

  • @AeroDragon2
    @AeroDragon2 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great list, I understand most of those entries, but I was really hoping to see Aggron and/or flygon. Aggron is downright my favorite pokemon, mostly due to it's appearance and impenetrable defence, and Flygon is a special pokemon to. I'll elaborate a bit: I am a huge fan of dragons, pokemon or not, and my first pokemon game was emerald. Flygon was the first dragon I ever raised, so you can see why flygon holds a special place in my heart.

  • @IcecoldSaiyan88
    @IcecoldSaiyan88 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    You my friend has earned my like and favorite for the sole number one pick. Sceptile is not only my favorite in gen 3 but in all of Pokemon :D I thought him Leafblade, Extreme Speed, Solarbeam, Crush Claw .

  • @arandraco
    @arandraco 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually caught a Feebas once, good thing too. It is the one me and my friends all have been using to get new ones using the Ditto breeding technic.

  • @cjszero01
    @cjszero01  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's right, here's how it worked. I played through Pokemon Sapphire and recorded it to a DVD since my HD PVR couldn't record it. Then I took the DVD and played it on my PS3 so I could record it from there. The little number is how fast I was speeding up the DVD footage.

  • @self-absorbed5269
    @self-absorbed5269 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm already subscribed to Roger. Hooray for being ahead of the curve and in the dark about how the internet works at the time! .....Yaaaay.

  • @BardockSkywalker
    @BardockSkywalker 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    top 10 fav hoenn pkmn
    10- manectric
    9- swellow
    8- metagross
    7- blaziken
    6- swampert
    5- groudon
    4- kyogre
    3- deoxys
    2- rayquaza
    1- sceptile

  • @MistressZelda
    @MistressZelda 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great list as always. ^_^ Gen 3 is my favorite generation so most of my favorite Pokemon are in it. I love Gardevoir the most, then Flygon, Metagross, Mudkip, Tropius and a few others. I love Gen 3. :D

  • @zappuellightninrod7644
    @zappuellightninrod7644 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Treecko's line being the number one on this list. You, sir, have just earned my respect and admiration.

  • @NyreusVeihah
    @NyreusVeihah 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sceptile is my favorite Pokemon overall.
    thank you for putting him on the list :)

  • @brawlmaster012
    @brawlmaster012 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    CJ, your ice puns are amazing and I appreciate them

  • @1cioda
    @1cioda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hearing that part about the first normal pokemon made me realize i am Kinda surprised Snorlax wasnt in the Gen 1 list.
    I get its all personal opinion. But that seemed like one of The pokemon that everyone liked no matter what.

  • @MEDOBOLT
    @MEDOBOLT 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i agree i like sceptile :D

    • @KingFancy
      @KingFancy 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      welcome to the club

    • @acceptile4865
      @acceptile4865 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm planning of buying black 2 and platinum maybe even X to get my classic Team Omega and I have the 1st version of the DS

  • @hookshotagain
    @hookshotagain 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Cjszero, I know this is an odd request, seeing as how it's not video game related, but have you considered doing a top 10 Doctor Who list?

  • @AntonyJr96
    @AntonyJr96 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My 12 HOEN favourite pokemons are:
    12: Aggron
    11:Salamence
    10:Dusclops
    9: Flygon
    8: Shiftry
    7: Armaldo
    6: Grandily
    5: Milotic
    4: Claydol
    3: Metangross
    2: Sceptile
    1: Blaziken

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      #1, IT'S CRADILY, NOT GRANDILY! #2, THERE IS NO N IN METAGRSS!

  • @cjszero01
    @cjszero01  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if you read my response to your other comment but just in case no, these are not emulators. Here's what happened. I played through Pokemon Sapphire on my GameBoy Player and recorded it to a DVD since my HD PVR couldn't record it. Then I took the DVD and played it on my PS3 so I could record it from there. The little number is how fast I was speeding up the DVD footage.

  • @DemonSilva8
    @DemonSilva8 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    great list, i definitely love Sivper waaay more then Zangoose xD Swampert and Sceptile has always been of my fav pokmon as well..hoenn and johto are the only regions where i love all the starters.Kyogre and groudon are two my favs but i love Kyogre more...i just got a Kyogre plushie in the mail today xD Latios is one of my fav Psychic pokemon next to Dexoys, i thought it would be on ur list for sure lol either way i loved it and cant wait next one :) P.S i have a Blaziken with speed boost xD

  • @tyronetiggums6441
    @tyronetiggums6441 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite Gen 3 Pokémon is Gardevoir. It's extremely OP in Gen 3, learning Psychic at level 26 in its Kirlia stage. While it got changed to learning it at level 40, to this day, it remains as my Psychic Pokémon on my team (and now Fairy too in X and Y).

  • @ThePurpleCheeseMan
    @ThePurpleCheeseMan 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zangoose, Regice, Metagross, Sceptile... We've got a lot of the same favorites... Eager to hear about your favorites from Sinnoh next!

  • @cjszero01
    @cjszero01  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I try not to use them as much as possible. I only bring them up if there's no way to avoid it like in the StarFox64 redo review, or to make fun of them before people can leave those quotes instead of saying something else.

  • @cjszero01
    @cjszero01  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you hear the stats my Sceptile had? I can't do that without EV training. Plus I brought it up in the Pokemon Black2 review.

  • @Scientin
    @Scientin 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    YAY! Swampert made the list! I hate it how much everyone hates it just because of the "I hear you likez mudkipz" deal. It deserves more praise!

  • @ProfCoolio
    @ProfCoolio 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hooray for sceptile, groudon, the latis, milotic, and my personal favorite Pokemon ever blaziken. I also remember trying to get to regice. I was decoding it letter by letter and it opened up just as I cracked it

  • @Thepenguinking2
    @Thepenguinking2 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zangoose is my favorite pokemon of all time :D Thanks for putting him on here :D

  • @YogiofEternalPeace
    @YogiofEternalPeace 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This list just reminded me of how most of my favourite pokemon are gen 3.
    Metagross, Gardevoir, Milotic, Blaziken, Groudon, Rayquaza.
    Zangoose had a bad-ass design but I wasn't fond of battling with it.
    I never managed to evolve my feebas (which I found really easily and had no idea was rare at the time) because after a certain point it wouldn't eat anymore pokeblocks.. being about 99% maxed out on beauty. x(

  • @Neochaos90
    @Neochaos90 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well. There is an event in Pokemon X and Y which it has the Speed Boost ability. I happen to have that one that is Level 100.

  • @benjaminwfeit
    @benjaminwfeit 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite gen 3 Pokemon is Sceptile, too! Mostly because it was my first started in gen 3.

  • @cjszero01
    @cjszero01  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, I actually had a 5th pun but I thought that would be over doing it. :)

  • @blankzz1
    @blankzz1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite hoenn pokemon is swampert

  • @Donatello643D
    @Donatello643D 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice list Mr Smith. Here's my personal favorite Hoenn Pokemon:
    10. Swampert
    9. Blaziken
    8. Deoxys
    7. Rayquaza
    6. Groudon
    5. Gardevoir
    4. Milotic
    3. Flygon
    2. Kyogre
    1. Sceptile

  • @MiniArts159
    @MiniArts159 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man dude, I love these top 10 vids!

  • @CoolGamer4161
    @CoolGamer4161 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you going to include Mega Evolutions in the Kalos list? If not, can we get a list of your 10 favorite mega evolutions?

  • @EnderOfLight
    @EnderOfLight 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man... sceptile never actualy got love... even though he was (is) my favorite grass type.

  • @Auraspeed
    @Auraspeed 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey CJ I've got two questions for you. 1 Is Grass your favorite type, and of the two which do you prefer Latias or Latios?

  • @absol13
    @absol13 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I... I like all of these guys! Sure I'd change the order a bit and add some other ones but... my list would be rather similar.

  • @theprimalgaming1940
    @theprimalgaming1940 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liked this video because you added groudon on this list. Its my favorite legendary and pokemon with gardevoir ;)

  • @Glitchygamer8605
    @Glitchygamer8605 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also, groundon can learn solar beam at around level 70. Combine that with its ability, you got a couter against alot of water types.

  • @jackcoughlan9793
    @jackcoughlan9793 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    FINALLY THERE IS LOVE FOR SCEPTILE!!!!!!!!!!!! My first and favorite Pokemon of all time.

    • @kingkramer
      @kingkramer 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      sceptile is really strong, but almost noone ever choose the grass type in the beginning. its sad

    • @gravityhero2227
      @gravityhero2227 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cause gen 3 ( which is my 2nd favorite gen) was horrible for the treecko line.

  • @chickenwaffle123
    @chickenwaffle123 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are both right, if you have the scale you can just trade evolve, but if you traded over a feebas with max beauty already, just level it up and it will evolve

  • @Mariostern1
    @Mariostern1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your opinion is a very good one. And your profile picture is even better :D

  • @wolfhurricane897
    @wolfhurricane897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4 ice puns on the 9th entry. That's just cold.

  • @cjszero01
    @cjszero01  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    1.) Yes it is. 2.) If I had a preference for one over the other then that pokemon would've been on the list instead of tying.

  • @Dynakirby63
    @Dynakirby63 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised with the lack of rebuttal on Rayquaza's absence :3

  • @piyamaman
    @piyamaman 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    are you going to do a "my personal favorite pokemon list" after these lists?

  • @SoberBro
    @SoberBro 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sceptile IS my favourite grass type! It was also came from my second official starter pokemon right after Todidile!

  • @TessaBain
    @TessaBain 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Technically part of what you said was incorrect.
    The code for the contests condition stat still exists in FireRed/LeafGreen/HeartGold/SoulSilver/Black/White/Black 2/White 2 and as such Feebas can still evolve via Beauty in those games but there is no way to raise it, so you'd have to bring it over with the Beauty stat already at 170 or higher (which I'd note also isn't max - liike all other stats contest stats take up a full bit meaning they max out at 255 and only 170 is required for Milotic).

  • @ClassicCartoonGamer
    @ClassicCartoonGamer 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hoenn is by far my favorite region in Pokemon. Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald are tied as my favorite Pokemon games. The GameBoy Advance SP is my favorite handheld gaming console.

  • @Shosci
    @Shosci 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    After watching your Sinnoh list, is it alright if I may ask, do you play Pokemon Showdown?

  • @ethan0248910
    @ethan0248910 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way you think. Both Swampert and Kyogre are on my top 10 favorite pokemon video.

  • @blaa6
    @blaa6 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love using Slaking when the circumstances are right. Sceptile is awesome as well. He's my grass type for Gen 3. Torterra is my overall Grass type for all of Pokemon.

  • @Billybo10K
    @Billybo10K 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    So if you like Swampert, do you liek Mudkips?

  • @SSJ22Terris
    @SSJ22Terris 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Augh! Salt on the wounds. I've been playing gen 3 recently and I'm having trouble with Maxie, right in front of Groudon. Any suggestions for getting past his Camerupt and Crobat? They keep destroying me. T-T
    My team: Blaziken; Tropius; Ninjask; Absol; Barboach; Mawile; Wynaut; Shedinja; Linoone. I half EV trained the Absol, though I'm pretty sure I did a terrible job at it. I focused on Defense and Sp. Defense.

  • @cjszero01
    @cjszero01  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course I do, how do you think I played these games?

  • @petertilton7004
    @petertilton7004 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was a dlc of a Special Torchic not only with Speed Boost but Blazikenite. If you have XY now it's too late to get it.

  • @Beyond227
    @Beyond227 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You were SO funny in this video. Love it and do it more often.

  •  10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Based on the tree I thought that Sceptile would be kind of slow, carrying that heavy tree around.

  • @cjszero01
    @cjszero01  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    No I got Black 2, but I have Regice from the first 3rd gen games so I'm good.

  • @cjszero01
    @cjszero01  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've thought about it but I haven't played that many movie games.

  • @hunterx335
    @hunterx335 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    sceptile is my fav too! I love his design.

  • @marsdraws218
    @marsdraws218 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm currently playing pokemon emerald and I chose treeko and I'm never going to regret it! He is a beast!

  • @Ash_gaming17
    @Ash_gaming17 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite Gen 3 Pokemon:
    1st: Groudon (Primal Form)
    2nd: Rayquaza (Mega Evolution)
    3rd: Deoxys (Attack Form)
    4th: Latios
    5th. Latias
    6th. Sceptile
    7th. Metagross
    8th. Kyogre (Primal Form)
    9th. Salamence
    10th. Regirock

  • @sonictom95
    @sonictom95 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice list number ten,two,and one are my favourite pokemon

  • @_JustCallMeBB_
    @_JustCallMeBB_ 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, somebody talks about Sceptile for once!

  • @MrCelloman999
    @MrCelloman999 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend, you get a like specifically for the ice pun sequence :)

  • @TFZJoakim
    @TFZJoakim 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same here, kid. I just love it and Gardevoir rekindled my love for Pokémon. I ALWAYS name mine Viola. Moves: Calm mind, Psychic, Thunderbolt and Protect.

  • @DittoMaster6
    @DittoMaster6 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are Grass-Types your favorite Starter Pokémon types? Because I see them on your favorite Pokémon lists higher than the other types. Bulbasaur was higher than the others, no other starter was on your Johto list, and now Sceptile. So is it? I wouldn't be surprised.

  • @pacecory1
    @pacecory1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm, I've been partial to Ralts myself, and I absolutely love Absol. XD

  • @SaiyanSonic91
    @SaiyanSonic91 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy crap, you're one of the few people I've seen who doesn't glorify the hell out of Rayquaza, I thank you for that sir.

  • @alterablebark54
    @alterablebark54 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the percentage of finding a latios in the water I was just on my swampart swimming around and found a latios but accidently insta-killed it :(

  • @GardevoirBoy
    @GardevoirBoy 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honorable Mention: Gardevoir
    I love Gardevoir because it has an elegant appearance, has a Japanese name Sirknight, and is my favorite Psychic type Pokemon.

  • @TheDoctor6200
    @TheDoctor6200 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cjs, this is more of a random question, but since you are a fan of the 3rd generation. Do you have those old pokemon toys that did something when you pressed a button?

  • @Quetzal00358
    @Quetzal00358 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aside from crunch what would be another good move for a sceptile in gen 3? I'd appreciate suggestions

  • @JoeBro915
    @JoeBro915 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was going to ask about skarmory but I remembered that it's gen 2

  • @dellybelly12345
    @dellybelly12345 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    KYOGRE!!! i love him so much.
    Blaziken will always be my starting pokemon in hoenn.
    Latios & Latias are great as well.
    overall great list

  • @64UPAllGOD
    @64UPAllGOD 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you covered most of what I would've put on there, except for Aggron and Salamance.

  • @Azdaja13
    @Azdaja13 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not in my experience, especially since I swept Wallace's entire team (Including Milotic) with just an underlevelled Grumpig. With Calm Mind and the Thick Fat ability giving him two extra resistances to both Ice and Fire he can be a serious threat.

  • @bennyboynds1855
    @bennyboynds1855 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    are you gonna do a top 10 fav pokemon over all

  • @HubandLux
    @HubandLux 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you tell us the pun?
    Btw, after watching the Star Successor review, I very temped to buy and play it and it's prequel.

  • @BlocksofMinecraftHD
    @BlocksofMinecraftHD 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were you excited that you can get Torchic in pokemon X and Y, and more importantly : Will you use his the mega evolution

  • @ClefairyRox
    @ClefairyRox 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You pronounced Scald "scaled"! I nearly banged my head on my keyboard hearing that.
    Great list, though. My favorite Gen 3 Pokemon include Jirachi, Gardevoir, and Plusle and Minun.

  • @brandonruffo5430
    @brandonruffo5430 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes but since the kyogre is faster, its ability will go into effect earlier, then groudons drought will make it sunny, therefore making solarbeam not a charge attack

  • @Harmak_Anna
    @Harmak_Anna 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    My top 3 pokemon of all time, interestingly enough, come from Gen. 3. Camerupt, Cradily and Walrein are my favorites.

  • @crcoghill
    @crcoghill 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    ah~ the hoenn region. as much as i like alot of the pokemon in them, it's not my favorite region, though i give it props for being awesome when i first heard about it. sharpedo was the first one i saw of this region and it looked badass! i also remember my little brother catching a shiny zangoose, but due to some issues (don't remember it) he lost it.

  • @ZachAttack717
    @ZachAttack717 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my top 10 favorite Hoenn Pokemon
    10: Kecleon
    9: Linoone
    8: Seviper
    7: Gardevoir
    6: Registeel
    5: Flygon
    4: Blaziken
    3: Altaria
    2: Jirachi
    1: Metagross

  • @AntonyJr96
    @AntonyJr96 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    The game you play in backround is pokemon stadium please someone tells me.

  • @KA1Z3RTheAmazing
    @KA1Z3RTheAmazing 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get your Barboach to a Whiscash to deal with the Camerupt. As for the Crobat, you don't have any type advantages in your team so just try power through with your Blaziken and Absol. What moves/level is your Mawile? Mawile should be like kryptonite for a standard NPC Crobat

  • @cinammonstyx7622
    @cinammonstyx7622 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gen 3 is easily my favorite... even though I haven't played it in several years... but oh well, I'm curious to see his favorites.

  • @keltsune
    @keltsune 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the last Generation of Pokemon that I actually still KIND OF liked. My favorite Pokemon from Hoenn are Linoone and Kecleon. Some of the other Pokemon I like are: Sceptile, Aggron, Groudon, and Rayquaza.

  • @Nebulabbit
    @Nebulabbit 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should make a pre-evolution of the Lati Twins, it would be purple (since its mixed with red and blue), and depending on the gender, it would either evolve into Latias or Latios, or something new.

  • @kclorenz8037
    @kclorenz8037 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gardevoir, Blaziken, Metagross, Milotic(2nd fav water), Kyorge, Salamence Flygon, Swampert, Lati twins , Flygon