Alcohol Powered Camp Oven Testing / Zebra Billy Bush Pot / Firebox Gen2 Nano.
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- Alcohol Powered Camp Oven Testing / Zebra Billy Bush Pot / Firebox Gen2 Nano.
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I keep being amazed at the many uses of the firebox! Please keep making these videos.
I will! Thanks for watching!
Love it! I think everyone will appreciate the fact that you show the process to the final perfect results - including showing the not-so-great outcomes! BLESSINGS! - Sam
ace1usmc Yeah, I figure you can all learn along with me. And I've gotten some awesome idea's from viewers about how I may be able to solve the problem other ways, which is awesome! Thanks!
If you had removed the pan of food, replaced the pot lid, rotated the pot with the rocks in it so that the top would now be radiating the heat that used to be where the rocks were, I would bet that heat things more evenly. Being a cylinder pot, it seems a very easy solution to simply rotate it. However, the rocks might ding up the inside of the pot some if that matters to you.
Great idea!
Nothing like going through all these videos again. They be never get old, but I somehow always get hungry before the end.
+Shane Coffey Laughing, I sure try hard!
I've been trying to come up with a way to cook biscuits, without a Dutch oven. This may be the best idea I've seen yet
Excellent video, Steve. Thank you for taking the time to share the wonderful attributes of the Nano 2. The possibilities seem endless with the folding firebox stoves.
Ted Zimmerman Thanks so much Ted!
Getting ready for better weather re-watching your cooking videos. Loving them all over again. Thanks Steve
I appreciate the comment Mark, thank you for watching. Have fun out there and be safe.
I bet your house smelled wonderful! Good project Steve, thank you.
You might want to try adding a swatch of carbon felt on top of the pot to reduce heat loss and equalize the temperature a bit.
I like how U are a family Man. I have watched a lot of motorcycle riding across the US. Used to camp, love the cooking style U have. God Bless.
Thank you Michael, we have a lot of fun 🙂
Steve, another great video, thank you.
When you use the Trangia, would it be possible to include an idea on how many refills etc are needed for cooking various things? Would give an idea then of what amounts of fuel to take.
Another great vid on the zebra pot! I always learn a lot on your vid... What a neat setup u got there... THx Steve!
Matthew Ho Much thanks Matthew!
I like your continued interst in making slight modification to make things go smoother cook/bake better. My solution was a little different, I took a piece of alum. flashing, cut it to a size that wnen folded twice it fit on top of the fire grate. This resolved my problem with burnet bisquit/muffin bottoms when using propane or alcohol stoves. (no heat of the top. Take care and know YOU are appreciated. Tom
Thank you for your kind words Tom!!
Delicious journey to perfection. Good job!
Bob Wampler Thanks Bob!
As always Steve "Awesome", I don't know when you have time to work, you are always testing and coming up with new ways to help everyone get the most out of your products, the ones that own your stoves get like a bonus every time you do a new test/cooking video, you have great support from you Family and users, it's a win win situation, thank you.
Robert Perkins
Quit making me buy your awesome products, lol
Robert PerkinsPerkins I hope it's a win for every one, I sure love what I do!
Thanks Robert!
I enjoy and learn from every one of your videos. Thank you very much
Thank you for the support, we are so glad to hear you've enjoyed watching!! 😁
I'm gonna try this next. Thanks for all you do. 👁️♥️🔥📦👌🤠👍
Let us know how it goes, thanks for watching.
Great oven, loving that you are using the Ti stove, have you made a video using it to make a single serving with a smaller pot, like something a hiker wouldn't mind packing.
Don Milligan Not yet Don, but that's a good idea. Thanks!
Whenever we were camping my mom would flip the bread (or cornbread) over about 1/2 way through cooking. Perfect every time!
That is awesome, I am glad you have those memories with her.
Humble suggestion: after the rocks are hot, put them on the tray on top of the rolls.
Fantastic , thanks for another great vid.
Neil Busby Thanks for commenting Neil!
Steve, you're like the Thomas Edison of testing. You just keep experimenting with different ways to get the job done until you have a self-sustaining incandescent light bulb (or in this case . . . the perfectly baked roll). Enjoyed watching!
Thank you for the kind comment, I appreciate that. Glad you enjoyed what you see. I guess over time you learn to perfect it! Cheers!!
great test series! i wonder if it would be possible to heat the top some how with alc...
Being on a fixed income, I am saving for the Zebra pot and Firebox. I appreciate all the videos of the cooking you do with them. There appears to be no limit to what you can do with them. Thank you for the videos.
dalton vickers Absolutely my pleasure! Let me know when your ready to order and I'll take good care of you. www.fireboxstove.com/index.php?route=information/contact
I’d line the bake pan with baking parchment as a standard practice. Closing down the simmer ring would lower the heat.
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I want your setup! I have done this with other (cobbled together) rigs. I usually give the food room so air can circulate and I also insulate the top of the pot so the heat isn't lost. I think a diaper... maybe of carbon felt or something... on top of the Billy Pot would also help get even browning. In all my rigs, I have resorted to insulating the top in some way and it really seems to work fine. Thanks for the walk-through on this!
Having heat on top has always been the biggest challenge. I have not tried carbon felt on top but it just might do the trick 👍
@@fireboxstove Of course, for open fires (as opposed to more controllable alcohol stoves) you have to put the insulation on the inside unless you have something totally fireproof. Kind of a pain but I have had success in wrapping the insulation in aluminum foil and adhering it to the top of the inside of the pot. Not sure how that would work with your setup but it seems it is a problem that could be solved... or not... ;-)
Don't know if your interested but you can add an internal BBQ thermometer to the Billy Can. I have the same Billy can as this, got it from the Bushcraft Store UK. I drilled out a small hole for the threaded section and used a stainless steel nut to hold it in place. Adds the benefit of seeing the internal Temperature. Works like a charm, and didn't cost a lot to buy currently £6.99. When the pot isn't being used as an oven I have a small stainless steel nut and bolt that fits back into the hole. All the best Mally
Thank you for the suggestion Mally and Milo! We actually have the option of that same thing on our site. It really works great. We don't have a plug for the hole like you do. Have fun out there, eating delicious food and making amazing memories.
@@fireboxstove Just checked it out on your website, very similar to the one I got. I don't think yours is available in the UK, I maybe wrong. All the best
Damn you Steve, I'm hungry now :P Interesting though, the foil worked great! I gotta order those Zebra pots with your clips soon! :)
Alba Diz Yeah, maybe 3 or 4 layers of foil would be perfect when heat is only applied to the bottom side. But I like heating both sides the best.
Thanks Alba!
great job. gotta try to know for next time. one day, that stove could mean live or starve in a disaster situation.
it is actually 1.44 inches. ColoradoCamper I'd the study on optimizing the Trangia stove, that Hiram cook mentions. the 0.5 inches make a differance for boils
ingredients for time. but for baking the less heat from the 1 inch may work as you want less heat for baking.
+Tim Barton Hi Tim, A 1 1/2" headspace can be achieved by placing the Nano on its lid setting on the Fire Grate.
I really like Your idea of carbon steel
balls to put on the bottom of the pot
for baking . I'd be afraid they would
rust ( but I guess You could season
them like a carbon steel pan ) . I had
tbe idea of useing stainless steel ball bearings the same way .
Maybe not carbon steel but quartz or glass? Go to your local "head" shop, ask for 'terp pearls' and those will be your new ultralight heat sinks
Grate job!!!!!!!!!!!!
if the grate you used inside was just a bit wider . . . lifting the cookware another 1/2-3/4 inch off the rocks , i believe you'd be good and get the results you want .
Tough job you got there Steve. 🙂
Lol thanks for watching Jim!
Can you please try this with frozen bread/biscuits. I want to use this camping. Thanks Steve!
Thanks Steve.
+Seann Alden My pleasure Seann! Thanks for watching!
I don't have the Zebra Billy bushpot but I do bake things like cobblers and breads in my Stanley cook cup. I need to try the rocks in the bottom.
Roberts Bushcraft, the rocks help with keeping the heat off the pan so it will not warp as well. Thanks for watching and commenting.
That was really awesome, your lid attachments do work great. Looks so good it makes me want to try some with my nano, did you have to use the simmer ring the last cook? Ted.
daddated1 Yes Ted, but it was fully opened. Thanks!
Hey Steve what kind of dough did you use in this test?
Still not bad tho... just saw the heat down and take a little longer to cook that's all you doing pretty good job though
Success is a beautiful and sometimes delicious thing. yumm
+Lellobeetle Thanks Laura!
the main reason for the lack of browning on the 2nd try is the pan is too deep. If you had it on a sheet tray, I am pretty sure your results would have been perfect. I have this issue when I cook turkeys and such in my deep pan.
***** Ah ha, thanks for the tip Joe!
Really awesome just wish they were a bit cheaper but I know you have to make a profit as well. Thanks for another video!
Adam Perez Thanks Adam!
Adam Perez Hey Adam. Use any stainless steel pot with a fitting lid. I have made one from a stainless cookie jar.
okay ill try that out if i ever get a fire box :)
I think u need to have a space between the rolls & the inside bottom of the the pan & maybe turn the rolls half way through the cooking time. Insert a small grill into the bottom of the pan keeping the rolls about 3/4" offthe bottom. All ur vids are very interesting.Thanks.
redrocco44 You know, the rolls would probably stay put if I were careful. Lots of good ideas here! Thanks!
This looks great! I wonder if you could fashion a sort of in oven roof rack for more rocks? Then maybe they could collect heat and brown the top of the rolls or whatever you're baking, without needing to get hot coals on the top of the oven. I don't know if that set up would be logistical for the rocks up to top to be heated or not since they aren't next to the flame side. lol just brain storming!
Thanks for the idea! I usually use hot coals on top. This was an experiment to see what I could do using only alcohol.
that's it.......I'm hungry now!!! time for breakfast.....
Thanks, Steve. Is that the 5" grill plate? The 5" should also fit well in a 14" Z-pot, The dutch oven thermometer is a great addition - otherwise, you're just guessing at the temp. and loosing heat every time you open the door to check.
Ellen Alers Yes Ellen, The 5" Grill Plate does work well in both the 16 and 14cm pots. And, I just ordered some grill hood thermometers that I hope will work even better than the Dutch Oven thermometer. Thanks!
Thanks for the added info, Steve.
Have you thought about putting some kind of vent system on the lid to control inside temp some?
dalton vickers Good Idea, I hadn't thought of venting some heat out if needed.
Thanks!
I gained five pounds watching you bake bread...Happy New Year
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How many minutes will that fire last and where can I get that setup
That's the way I always had biscuits. Just smother them in butter.
It's the butter, it always burns like that.
steve. you burn your food a LOT less than a bunch of these other guys. good video as always. loving my NANO. what fuel are you using?
sexualharrison thank you, I think I get lucky. But I generallys err on the side of less Heat,
Turn the legs in so the pot "oven" sits higher and further away from the heat to let the heat circulate around the dough pan it would work better, Butter the top of the rolls, they will brown a bit better.
Thank you for the feedback!
Steve, I was curious what is the source you use for the alcohol that you use for the TSB ? I've never used one of the burners and was wondering what type of alcokol you use for it.
Jay bird2963 Thanks for asking Jay, It was denatured alcohol from the hardware store. Cheers!
Can you make a TH-cam clip list or webpage of baking tutorials? We bought a Zebra pot and baking kit for Christmas.
But with 3 kids I don't feel like experimenting in the field too much...:(
Keep the heat below very low with lots of hot coals on top (as much heat on top as possible)
Being from the south, I really enjoyed a whole video on biscuits. Where's the gravy?
dalton vickers Laughing, well I'm glad it didn't bore you too bad.
Thanks Dalton!
I'm starved now..... what a great how to story
Hey. Thanks for the cooking vids. Can you cook some vegan meals so I can see the comparison. Maybe a baked tofu and veggie mix? Vegan shepards pie? Much appreciated
You gotta be kidding ... this is camping at its finest ! ( almost clamping if You look at it too
closely ) !!! LOL.....
How/where do you get the metal locks for the zebra pot? I can only find ones with plastic clips!
You can email us at info@fireboxstove.com and we can help you get some. Thanks so much!
Steve can I use rubbing alcohol ?Thanks Sandy
We recommend de-natured alcohol, it works great. Thanks for watching Sandy!
What about putting the burner on the floor of the stove so the gap between the burner and zebra pot would be farther?
You could try that too, you would just have to watch the heat well. Good suggestion! Thank you for watching!
Could you tell us what the oven temperature was and where the simmer ring was set at,
+Seann Alden The simmer ring was fully open and the temp ranged from 325 to 378f
Winner Winner, Yeast Rolls with Chicken for Dinner.
Galen Long Yeah, I need to get three of these all going at the same time!
Did you ever try a lower heat with the simmer ring?
Yes, it works great!
For baking rolls you need a tray so the rolls will bake all over even.
Thanks for the tip!
Would love to know that dough mix?
redrocco44 Rhodes Frozen, I took the easy way out ;)
Thanks!
Are the rocks some particular type or any ordinary ones.
I think you will know if they're not good rocks for the job, Pick them up and if they seem quite solid and heavy you will be good!
where can i get the square pan havent been able to find one
+max rv Thanks for asking! I modify them to fit perfectly. Here's a link: www.fireboxstove.com/camping-gear/baking-kit
Thanks for the video but as I watched this I kept asking myself the samething. That is with all the stuff you have to do and bring to make a Zebra pot a barely acceptable oven, why not just bring a small Dutch Oven instead? I'm not trying to be critical I was honestly looking to get more from my Billy Pot but at best you have a less then great oven.
You should try watching some of my other baking video's
When in doubt, more butter...
Lol right?! It is just so delicious!
Would be great for a child
What size pan do you use
Which pan are you talking about in this video?
I took one of my wife’s homemade rolls right after we were married… I hit an elk in the head at 20 yards… dropped it in its tracks… did I just say that out loud?
I'm always looking for ways to be able to bake indoors in a "grid down" situation. Being able to have bread to sop up a variety of soups would be very comforting in stressful times. Looks like I'll be busy looking at your other videos. Thanks for your time and effort making these. I have a VERY modest channel myself, check out my "Cook a meal with 8 briquettes"
+PuttingUpWith Mike Thanks Mike! Cool Stuff!
who's really fussing about making the perfect rolls while out camping. This is a great demo, but how about cooking stuff that's more practical?
Travis Heinze I've cooked a whole chicken this way, loaf of bread, cake... What could I bake that would seem practical to you? As a stove top or as a grill I've made video's cooking steak, bacon and eggs, fajitas... Try this video: th-cam.com/video/aRKmkSmLBaM/w-d-xo.html I would love any suggestions you may have!
Thanks for commenting
What kinda fuel you using Steve?
I usually use de-natured alcohol. Thanks for watching!
Ok so Does that mean I can use it inside?
@@zekesundown2397 follow the alcohol burner manufacturers instructions and cautions.
Что за камни ты используешь ?
Дмитрич I'm not sure? I just gathered it from my gravel road. I think any kind should work fine.
Thanks for commenting!
FireboxStove stones....
Suggest to make sure they are dry and from metamorphic rock. Reason being they won't explode from internal moisture and won't go all powdery. Just a thought👍
Chris Mellor что означает метаморфических пород from metamorphic rock
Chris Mellor Thanks Chris, I don't know a lot about rocks, but these must be what you say because I've used them several times now and they're working great!
Good stuff:)
I thinking to myself: "It's not even gonna heat it", and it actually burnt it!
Lol indeed it did! Thanks for watching!
The baking pan is so snug to the sides that you are not able to get a rotating convection going around your baking. Maybe a grill grate That sets the baking pan more in the middle and eliminate the rocks and a baking pan with with straight side that is smaller to allow the convection heat to circulate around the entire baking pan instead of just on the bottom. Just an Idea. Thank you and God bless
+Debbie Holland Yes, the tight fit does create a challenge, but I have been able to compensate with the coals on top.
i would have tried without the rocks, they are concentrating the heat in one place
John James You may be right, perhaps I should try it both ways. Thanks for the suggestion John!
Hello. Your oven is completely closed. Then moisture that is in the dough cannot evaporate. Ergo will not dry your bread and there is almost no fermentation process. Make dough as dry as possible. do not use bone oil or egg in the dough, only water. I have been baking bread for almost 40 years and I know how to make an oven. That is sometimes quite difficult. But half baked bread will ferment in your stomach. And that is not really healthy. Baking bread in a pan is possible, but the pan must be in an oven. The baking time is then half of a normal baking time. your bread is now lying together. Bake 1 smaller bread once and turn it halfway the baking time. I do that as well. Good luck.
The lid is not tight fitting moisture can easily escape.
@@fireboxstove Your oven should never get hotter than 220 Gr / c internally. I don't know if you have a meter that you can put through a hole in the oven. They do exist, so you have a better understanding of what is happening. A nice temperature that I work with is 190 Gr / c with a slightly longer baking time. Always bake your bread for a while with an open lid (in this case). I bake bread every day at home in a pan with a glass lid, which works fine on a low heat. In my opinion you should not eat the bread too fresh, but that is my opinion. I made a Mini oven from canned cans but never attempted to bake it. (Lol) But I will do that tomorrow anyway.
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So everything you used to cook and this video Everything cuz you use two different size pans use a bigger one than you use a smaller one I think at least you said you did including the thing that holds the fuel and everything how much does everything cost this is my beginner kit I'm a bike packer bicycle packer cargo bike lol
You can find almost every item I use in my videos on my website fireboxstove.com. Thanks for watching and commenting.