Top 15 players in the series so far 1. Dexter Lawrence (95) 2. Pat Surtain (94) 3. Andrew Thomas (89) 4. Terry Mclaurin (89) 5. Derrick Brown (88) 6. Demario Davis (87) 7. DeAndre Hopkins (87) 8. Tyrann Matthieu (87) 9. L'jarius Sneed (86) 10. Marshon lattimore (86) 11. Jeffery Simmons (85) 12. Chris Olave (85) 13. Gerret Bolles (85) 14. Brian burns (84) 15. Johnathon Allen (84)
That's because Kyler wasn't healthy to start last year. He weighs the QB grade really high so just having an above average QB like Kyler boosts you up these rankings.
Nah man! I am fine waiting! Glad that he saw us better then 28. I'm shooting to be at least 23. I know raiders, Cardinals, and maybe chargers and doubtful on Vikings are all neck to neck.
Compared to Last Year's Deep Dive 32. Washington Commanders (-4) 31. New England Patriots (-16) 30. Carolina Panthers (-10) 29. Tennessee Titans (-10) 28. Denver Broncos (-9) 27. New York Giants (-14) 26. New Orleans Saints (-2)
As a saints fan ill say this: the analysis of the team is pretty spot on. However i would argue that the team feels much better about themselves than they did this time last year, and they still managed to win 9 games. I think theres a very good chance this saints team wins the nfc south this year
So glad you took your vacation the same time Bootleg started up their summer deep dive series. Glad to see you back so now with you, plus Zac Shomler from Strong Opinion Sports(SOS) finally moved into his new apartment there is thrice the amount of football in my feed!
@@ThatFranchiseGuy yea I agree I’m just excited to maybe see a better running game. This new scheme can create better blocking for the athletic guys on this line.
@@ThatFranchiseGuy think your carr hate boner is a little unjustified. he's just an average QB, by no means is he terrible enough to get an OC fired. raiders were always a complete mess and carmichael was truly awful last year
QBs with expectations that aren't met get Coordinators fired. Straight up bad QBs get themselves fired. In other words, Carr is good enough that people rarely put the blame on him. If that makes sense.
Sad but not surprised to see the Saints this low. Great video as always! Quick note about injuries: Juwan Johnson is out indefinitely with a lower leg injury (just had surgery) and Tanoh Kpassingoh is done for the season with a torn Achilles suffered about a month ago
I noticed that many teams only have a 1-3 overall difference. Between worst team in the nfl vs a competitive roster. How big of a actual gap is between the 32 and the 24th best team for example
I'm gonna do a Front Office Rankings podcast on my Fully Inflated Football Podcast hopefully before the season starts. Hard to bake that into this when we're really just reflecting on the work they've already done for the year.
Ion know why but I’ve always been a big fan of Demario Davis . He’s my favorite linebacker outside of Christian Harris because I’m a diehard Texans fan but I just love seeing him out there still playing like a top tier linebacker in his mid 30s
As a Commanders fan, in terms of Chase Young and Khaleke Hudson: Chase Young: He plays his best when he can play undisciplined. He likes to win with athleticism and power and his pass rush moves are not top end. His use of hands are not great. That said he can still win at a good pass rush win rate percentage if he gets to be the alpha and free lance because his athletic tools are good. Part of the problem with the Commanders D-Line was they had four guys who wanted to be an alpha and all wanted to do their thing. So Jon Allen the DT next to him may see an opportunity to go inside based on the guard is playing him and Young may choose to go outside and it would open up a running lane for the QB and kill containment. My guess is he struggled in San Fran because they didn't treat him as an alpha and didn't give him as much freedom and he doesn't have the handusage and pass rush moves to excel when he has to play strictly within a scheme. Ideally he plays next Saunders who is more of a run stuffer than pass rusher and who in pass rush situations can play off of what Young does allowing Young the freedom to pass rush where he see the opportunity. The way to maximize Young is to let him be the alpha where he has a lot of freedom and the DT next to him plays off him in pass rush situations. If you make him play in a lot of structure he doesn't have the pass rush moves and hand usage to excel in that type role. Khaleke Hudson: I liked him. He was a guy last year I thought Marcus rated too low (I think Marcus had him at like a 66 and I thought he should be like a 69) and I think he showed that last year when he got the opportunity to start a few games due to injury. He is a good backup. I was disappointed Washington did not bring him back as I saw him as a pretty idea backup LB. I think using Marcus's ratings he probably should be rated in that 69 to 71 range. He is not a bad option to start a few games if you need a backup LB to start due to injury. Granted he is at best the Saints fourth LB so I am not expecting much out of him, but he is good depth.
I just got back to work after 6 weeks of paternity leave as of Aug 6th you have the video of the bill out so I got a lot of materials to get me through a thousand-plus emails lol. great stuff as always.
Saints fan here. I thought you deep dive into this time was spot on. I wish the saints would blow it all up and start over. Hopefully after this year, we will be looking for a new HC and have a high draft pick to get a young, talented QB like Jalen Milroe ;p. Love your videos and how much time and effort you put into these videos TFG! :D
I agree but I’m not sold on milroe and I wanna see what Rattler can do why not throw him in after week like 13 when we are treading water like really why not dude this years kind of a wash to me so I say let him have a shot
@@NathanAnderson-f6e I know but it’s a cool story I’m rooting for him and if he’s awful and we get a higher draft pick that’s also good because I hate everything about Derek Carr since he cried about how hard he worked in Vegas because they were a garbage organization
Marcus, thank you for this analysis. I wonder if some of these old stars will decline even more than you considered. On any given sunday they can still beat middle of the road teams but I do not expect goid consustency
Love the videos man but got to edit the part where you were comparing Matt corral on Washington to Spencer rattler I think you meant Sam Howell only reason mentioning it is because you said corral like 4 times
as a saints fan the second we signed carr which i knew we would do it just put a shit to what we can really accomplish in the next 3 or 4 years while we might not be the worst in the league mediocrity with a slight chance at a playoff win in a perfect world all while being -90 quintillion in cap every year really wish we just hit a proper rebuild after brees or somehow we are able to build the team up enough now that by the time carra contract is up we are a qb away but also don’t love the GM way of going about things so can’t be so hopeful
Derek Carr is never going to be an exceptional qb, but I think that him having 7 different offensive coordinators/play callers in his career is definitely not helping. He's going to end up having ryan fitzpatrick numbers of coaches by the end of his career at this rate. 😂
32. Commanders Prediction for 31: Pats ✅ 31. Pats Prediction for 30: Titans ❌ 30. Panthers Prediction for 29: Giants ❌ 29. Titans Prediction for 28: Broncos ✅ 28. Broncos Prediction for 27: Giants ✅ 27. Giants Prediction for 26: Cardinals ❌ 26. Saints Prediction for 25: Cardinals Stats so far: 3 right guesses and 2 wrong Best guess: Broncos at 28 Worst guess: Titans over Panthers Prediction for 30
Carr is a top passing quarterback. This quick strike rythem based offense is exactly what he likes. He may be the best two minute drill in the league. He will start like he finished!
Taysom Hill has been one of my favorite players in the league, as a weapon, not a QB. He’s just so freaking good with the ball in his hands, and they do a pretty decent job getting creative with him to put defenses in a bind. Such an awesome player.
Always good to have one of the teams I root for be near the bottom of the list and the other (presumably) near the top. Also there's been a lot of overlap in defensive personnel recently
He needs to do a TH-cam short on chase young why he didn’t do nothing, because I’ve heard many things people called him lazy lmao like why didn’t he play I didn’t really watch any 49ers game last year.
2:08:18 Lean Under 7.5 6 to 9 Wins. Not seeing upside for The Saints in 2024. 6-11, 9-8 Record Expected. (I agree.) Their Early Season Schedule is difficult - Week 2 Cowboys - Week 3 Eagles - Week 5 Chiefs NFL South opponents improving? - Atlanta Falcons have 2 New QBs - Carolina Panthers won't be 2-15 or worse, right? They'll steal some wins. - Buccaneers are competitive with Baker Mayfield and their WRs and Defense.
I will say it maybe worth mentioning that Juwan Johnson will miss some time due to a lower leg injury. Not sure how long but he’s definitely missing a good part or training camp
I dont think I've ever seen an athlete in any of the 4 major that has been more undeserving of a contract/spot than nathan peterman. Good take on AT Perry.
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One Error: I kept saying Matt Coral when referring to Sam Howell in Washington 😅. Forever linked I guess.
I came here just for the yearly glazing of Demario Davis, perennially underrated top 5 LB
Top 3 honestly
Top 15 players in the series so far
1. Dexter Lawrence (95)
2. Pat Surtain (94)
3. Andrew Thomas (89)
4. Terry Mclaurin (89)
5. Derrick Brown (88)
6. Demario Davis (87)
7. DeAndre Hopkins (87)
8. Tyrann Matthieu (87)
9. L'jarius Sneed (86)
10. Marshon lattimore (86)
11. Jeffery Simmons (85)
12. Chris Olave (85)
13. Gerret Bolles (85)
14. Brian burns (84)
15. Johnathon Allen (84)
some heroes don't wear capes
@@hunter7716 Absolutely, respect
Ramczyk is an 85. Idk if you left him out because of injury.
Isnt he retiring?@@ryanleadbitter7749
@@ryanleadbitter7749 He will more than likely not play another game.
Carr is literally a AI madden QB😂
This is the funniest description I’ve ever seen of a QB lmao.
Maybe if his name were D’Angelo Carr
Omg
That's accurate as hell. Hopefully EA fixes that someday
@@stephencalhoun3034 right, where in All-Madden instead of just forcing a fumble on every play the QB reads the defense perfectly
TFG QB rankings so far
20. Derek Carr
23. Daniel Jones
25. Bryce Young
27. Jacoby Brissett/ Drake Maye
28. Will Levis
T29. Bo Nix
32. Jayden Daniels
Respects for this
Too high for Carr
bro thnks Fr, keep us updated plz
I thought he separates now how he ranks the qb’s
cardinals fans: where TFs our video, we were first last year😡😡😡
😂😂😂😂😂
That's because Kyler wasn't healthy to start last year. He weighs the QB grade really high so just having an above average QB like Kyler boosts you up these rankings.
@@nickfrisa4066 you missed the sarcasm, but I appreciate you
Nah man! I am fine waiting! Glad that he saw us better then 28. I'm shooting to be at least 23. I know raiders, Cardinals, and maybe chargers and doubtful on Vikings are all neck to neck.
Chargers will be higher because of Herbert
We missed you Marcus! Happy to have you back
Compared to Last Year's Deep Dive
32. Washington Commanders (-4)
31. New England Patriots (-16)
30. Carolina Panthers (-10)
29. Tennessee Titans (-10)
28. Denver Broncos (-9)
27. New York Giants (-14)
26. New Orleans Saints (-2)
interesting we still have yet to see a team that's risen in the rankings
@@willtitone8844 cardinals will take that spot probably
The king has returned
As a saints fan ill say this: the analysis of the team is pretty spot on. However i would argue that the team feels much better about themselves than they did this time last year, and they still managed to win 9 games. I think theres a very good chance this saints team wins the nfc south this year
You trust the HC ? Me not so much but witha better OC and Derek Caar doing better plays maybe you right .
I hope so ..
@@eddyhuangkuanfukhuangkuanf5300 I trust Dennis Allen to coach a top 10 defense. That's about it. But I have faith in this new offense mostly.
So glad you took your vacation the same time Bootleg started up their summer deep dive series. Glad to see you back so now with you, plus Zac Shomler from Strong Opinion Sports(SOS) finally moved into his new apartment there is thrice the amount of football in my feed!
Welcome back! I need these to get through the summer.
Back already? Oh hell yeah. Hope you had the best vacation ever!
I think your severely undermining the Klint Kubiak signing charmichael was actual horrible at scheming guys open and play matching defenses
Eh, thought the playcalling was fine. Nothing special but fine. Carr gets his OC fired every couple of years so felt pretty part for the course
@@ThatFranchiseGuy yea I agree I’m just excited to maybe see a better running game. This new scheme can create better blocking for the athletic guys on this line.
@@ThatFranchiseGuy think your carr hate boner is a little unjustified. he's just an average QB, by no means is he terrible enough to get an OC fired. raiders were always a complete mess and carmichael was truly awful last year
QBs with expectations that aren't met get Coordinators fired. Straight up bad QBs get themselves fired. In other words, Carr is good enough that people rarely put the blame on him.
If that makes sense.
Welcome back hope you enjoyed your trip kinda surprised it’s the saints but we shall see how it plays out
I just raw dogged this whole video in 1 sitting and I think this is the longest one yet 😂
Sad but not surprised to see the Saints this low. Great video as always!
Quick note about injuries: Juwan Johnson is out indefinitely with a lower leg injury (just had surgery) and Tanoh Kpassingoh is done for the season with a torn Achilles suffered about a month ago
I’m a saints fan a couldn’t agree with you more on Derrick Carr
I noticed that many teams only have a 1-3 overall difference. Between worst team in the nfl vs a competitive roster.
How big of a actual gap is between the 32 and the 24th best team for example
TFG should start ranking general managers in these as well, they are also a huge factor in a teams success of course
I'm gonna do a Front Office Rankings podcast on my Fully Inflated Football Podcast hopefully before the season starts.
Hard to bake that into this when we're really just reflecting on the work they've already done for the year.
Ion know why but I’ve always been a big fan of Demario Davis . He’s my favorite linebacker outside of Christian Harris because I’m a diehard Texans fan but I just love seeing him out there still playing like a top tier linebacker in his mid 30s
Less goo! Hope the trip went well, its good to have you back😎
LETS GOOOOOO RAWR I STAN TFG RAWR 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
As a Commanders fan, in terms of Chase Young and Khaleke Hudson:
Chase Young: He plays his best when he can play undisciplined. He likes to win with athleticism and power and his pass rush moves are not top end. His use of hands are not great. That said he can still win at a good pass rush win rate percentage if he gets to be the alpha and free lance because his athletic tools are good. Part of the problem with the Commanders D-Line was they had four guys who wanted to be an alpha and all wanted to do their thing. So Jon Allen the DT next to him may see an opportunity to go inside based on the guard is playing him and Young may choose to go outside and it would open up a running lane for the QB and kill containment. My guess is he struggled in San Fran because they didn't treat him as an alpha and didn't give him as much freedom and he doesn't have the handusage and pass rush moves to excel when he has to play strictly within a scheme.
Ideally he plays next Saunders who is more of a run stuffer than pass rusher and who in pass rush situations can play off of what Young does allowing Young the freedom to pass rush where he see the opportunity. The way to maximize Young is to let him be the alpha where he has a lot of freedom and the DT next to him plays off him in pass rush situations. If you make him play in a lot of structure he doesn't have the pass rush moves and hand usage to excel in that type role.
Khaleke Hudson: I liked him. He was a guy last year I thought Marcus rated too low (I think Marcus had him at like a 66 and I thought he should be like a 69) and I think he showed that last year when he got the opportunity to start a few games due to injury. He is a good backup. I was disappointed Washington did not bring him back as I saw him as a pretty idea backup LB. I think using Marcus's ratings he probably should be rated in that 69 to 71 range. He is not a bad option to start a few games if you need a backup LB to start due to injury. Granted he is at best the Saints fourth LB so I am not expecting much out of him, but he is good depth.
39:19 Olave flipping that DBs hips like some burgers lol
Welcome back TFG shocked to see the Saints at the spot
I just got back to work after 6 weeks of paternity leave as of Aug 6th you have the video of the bill out so I got a lot of materials to get me through a thousand-plus emails lol. great stuff as always.
Saints fan here. I thought you deep dive into this time was spot on. I wish the saints would blow it all up and start over. Hopefully after this year, we will be looking for a new HC and have a high draft pick to get a young, talented QB like Jalen Milroe ;p. Love your videos and how much time and effort you put into these videos TFG! :D
Lol milroe dude
I agree but I’m not sold on milroe and I wanna see what Rattler can do why not throw him in after week like 13 when we are treading water like really why not dude this years kind of a wash to me so I say let him have a shot
@@chaseweyrick8416 I hope we Rattler can turn into something, but that's highly unlikely.
@@NathanAnderson-f6e I know but it’s a cool story I’m rooting for him and if he’s awful and we get a higher draft pick that’s also good because I hate everything about Derek Carr since he cried about how hard he worked in Vegas because they were a garbage organization
@@chaseweyrick8416 so true 😇
I had Fuaga as OT2, but only as RT. He'd be an amazing RT because of his strength and run blocking. LT for an immobile QB like Carr is worrisome
We'll be getting the ball out quicker than ever
Marcus, thank you for this analysis. I wonder if some of these old stars will decline even more than you considered. On any given sunday they can still beat middle of the road teams but I do not expect goid consustency
We also added 2TE’s Dallin Holker and buddy from the Raiders. Who Dat ⚜️
The Legend TFG has at last returned🙏🏾🔥.
Welcome back TFG! Hope you had a good vacay
Hell yea dude happy youre back! Or... Gone from my perspective i guess idk. Anyway greets from europe!❤
A great day to drop a deep dive happy Saturday
I, too, was sad when Shaheed switched his number from 89.
As a raiders fan I’m baffled. Not complaining but you must see a bit Marcus 😭
My rankings for all 32 franchises this year. The franchises revealed by Marcus thus far are mentioned in his order.
7th tier "Rebuilding, not competitive", 6 franchises, 27th - 32nd best franchises: 27th Giants, 28th Broncos, 29th Titans, 30th Panthers, 31st Patriots, 32nd Commanders;
6th tier "Rather weak or rebuilding", 3 franchises, 24th - 26th best franchises: 24th Chargers, 25th Vikings, 26th Saints;
5th tier "Average", 4 franchises, 20th - 23rd best franchises: 20th Bears, 21st Cardinals, 22nd Raiders, 23rd Colts;
4th tier "Borderline playoff caliber", 4 franchises, 16th to 19th best franchises: 16th Browns, 17th Jaguars, 18th Seahawks, 19th Buccaneers;
3rd tier "Playoff caliber", 9 franchises, 7th - 15th best franchises: 7th Eagles, 8th Ravens, 9th Packers, 10th Bills, 11th Falcons, 12th Dolphins, 13th Steelers, 14th Rams, 15th Cowboys;
2nd tier "Deep playoffs run", 2 franchises, 5th - 6th best franchises: 5th Texans, 6th Jets;
1st tier, "Superbowl contenders", 4 franchises, 1st - 4th best franchises: 1st Bengals, 2nd Chiefs, 3rd 49ers, 4th Lions;
Our boy is back
We back! Let’s go!
Bro I been waiting for this vid
I HAD A FEELING :(
Love the videos man but got to edit the part where you were comparing Matt corral on Washington to Spencer rattler I think you meant Sam Howell only reason mentioning it is because you said corral like 4 times
Can't edit once the video is posted unfortunately
2nd best day of the month not even a saints fan
Hope you had a great vacay Marcus🙏🙏🙏
Tears of joy
WHOOO! WE ARE BACK!
Welcome back bro
Reminder to help with a like, and subscribe.
Excited for a new vid.
Thnx bud
He has returned!
“change the number dude”😭😭
Of course the year I find out about this channel is the one year the Jets are good and I have to wait super long for their deep dive
as a saints fan the second we signed carr which i knew we would do it just put a shit to what we can really accomplish in the next 3 or 4 years while we might not be the worst in the league mediocrity with a slight chance at a playoff win in a perfect world all while being -90 quintillion in cap every year really wish we just hit a proper rebuild after brees or somehow we are able to build the team up enough now that by the time carra contract is up we are a qb away but also don’t love the GM way of going about things so can’t be so hopeful
all thought i can’t wait for this season it sucks to know we are kinda stuck
I know you meant 8 years in the league, but when you said “Lattimore is 8 years old so he’s getting up there”, I chuckled.
Derek Carr is never going to be an exceptional qb, but I think that him having 7 different offensive coordinators/play callers in his career is definitely not helping. He's going to end up having ryan fitzpatrick numbers of coaches by the end of his career at this rate. 😂
Could the saints be in the sheduer sanders Carson beck sweepstakes next year?
Welcome back!!!
He’s back 🙏
Granderson SNUBBED. Was a beast last year.
The man is back
my favorite commanders quarterback matt corral
32. Commanders
Prediction for 31: Pats ✅
31. Pats
Prediction for 30: Titans ❌
30. Panthers
Prediction for 29: Giants ❌
29. Titans
Prediction for 28: Broncos ✅
28. Broncos
Prediction for 27: Giants ✅
27. Giants
Prediction for 26: Cardinals ❌
26. Saints
Prediction for 25: Cardinals
Stats so far: 3 right guesses and 2 wrong
Best guess: Broncos at 28
Worst guess: Titans over Panthers
Prediction for 30
TFG rankings (my rankings)
26. Saints (25)
27. Giants (28)
28. Broncos (31)
29. Titans (27)
30. Panthers (30)
31. Patriots (32)
32. Commanders (29)
Who is your 26th ranked team?
@@gcsgamingcommunity4087 Cardinals
Thank you TFG
Raiders and Cards over Saints is surprising, but I like it. 3/6 for predictions. Imma stick with the Cardinals for #25
Bro the Saints literally have Derek Carr
@@danielacker2351he’s better than Gardner Minshew
@@Kongii-pn9doyeah, that's valid.
@@Kongii-pn9doraiders literally have weapons and a top 5 d line
@Kongii-pn9do gardner minshew is not starting for the raiders lmao 😂
He’s back!
Praying colts recreate the chiefs situation and Steichen runs the pro spread too so I’m praying and been praying for it 🙏🙏
We are so back
YEAHHHHHHHH WOOOOOOOO WERE BACK BABY RAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
Carr is a top passing quarterback. This quick strike rythem based offense is exactly what he likes. He may be the best two minute drill in the league. He will start like he finished!
😂😂
LOVE Dallin Holker, was my top undrafted player. 👀
Oh hell yeah. We are soooo back.
Glad to see you’re back from a needed hiatus 🎉
Thank you!!!
Finally been waiting on this 🙏🏻
Taysom Hill has been one of my favorite players in the league, as a weapon, not a QB. He’s just so freaking good with the ball in his hands, and they do a pretty decent job getting creative with him to put defenses in a bind. Such an awesome player.
Carr was so good for like a 3-4 year stretch, it only ever mattered once though and he didn't have enough help.
Always good to have one of the teams I root for be near the bottom of the list and the other (presumably) near the top. Also there's been a lot of overlap in defensive personnel recently
Keep up the good work Marcus!
WE ARE SO BACK
Yeah baby!!
Good to see you back doing deep dives
34:07 I think you mean Carolina, my friend 😂
Think he meant to say Sam Howell but got confused since Sam actually was the starter and a bridge QB and Matt did nothing
Idk the way TFG described this team it SCREAMS under
Welcome back King!👑
Alonte Taylor plays football like JR Smith played basketball (i’m a saints fan and love him)
He backkkk
Heads up, Marcus. Tanoh Kpassagnon got hurt during the OTA's and is going to miss the entire season
Cardinals are next
Marcus kept saying Matt Corral when he meant Sam Howell 😂 it happens
Ranking the Cardinals ahead of the Saints is nasty work 😭😭
goats back
He needs to do a TH-cam short on chase young why he didn’t do nothing, because I’ve heard many things people called him lazy lmao like why didn’t he play I didn’t really watch any 49ers game last year.
2:08:18 Lean Under 7.5
6 to 9 Wins. Not seeing upside for The Saints in 2024.
6-11, 9-8 Record Expected.
(I agree.)
Their Early Season Schedule is difficult
- Week 2 Cowboys
- Week 3 Eagles
- Week 5 Chiefs
NFL South opponents improving?
- Atlanta Falcons have 2 New QBs
- Carolina Panthers won't be 2-15 or worse, right? They'll steal some wins.
- Buccaneers are competitive with Baker Mayfield and their WRs and Defense.
And….he’s back! This is like water in a desert.
WELCOME BACKKKK🎉
Been waiting all week for this
The goat is back! Saint hopefully try out rattler towards the end of the year to see if he’s the future.
I will say it maybe worth mentioning that Juwan Johnson will miss some time due to a lower leg injury. Not sure how long but he’s definitely missing a good part or training camp
yeah probably gonna be out a while, might not return until preseason
WE BACK BABY LFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Glad you had a nice vacation with your woman much love dude
I dont think I've ever seen an athlete in any of the 4 major that has been more undeserving of a contract/spot than nathan peterman. Good take on AT Perry.
Why don’t they just put Fuagoa at left guard keep penning at left tackle and sign a stop gap right tackle and in line tight end on that side