It’s always more fun to exceed expectations (even if those expectations are low) than it is to fall short. I think this year Chargers fans should have more fun due to this year being a prove it year and I think a playoff bid would be a huge success.
TFG QB rankings 6. Justin Herbert 20. Derek Carr 23. Daniel Jones 25. Bryce Young 27. Jacoby Brissett/Drake Maye 28. Will Levis T29. Bo Nix 32. Jayden Daniels
Is it a hot take to say that Jaden Daniel’s will be better than drake maye? (Not saying I think he will be bad year one, but we have seen this a lot. You have a small, athletic black qb versus the prototype raw white guy.)
Top 15 players in the series so far 1. Dexter Lawrence (95) 2. Pat Surtain (94) 3. Andrew Thomas (89) 4. Terry Mclaurin (89) 5. Derrick Brown (88) 6. Demario Davis (87) 7. DeAndre Hopkins (87) 8. Khalil Mack (87) 9. Tyrann Matthieu (87) 10. Justin Herbert (86) 11. Rashawn Slater (86) 12. L'jarius Sneed (86) 13. Marshon Lattimore (86) 14. Jeffery Simmons (85) 15. Chris Olave (85)
Chargers suck 😂😂 no depth new regime and a qb that could be broken from injuries and bad coaching. At least the raiders have a defense come on let’s be smart bolt fans
Cardinals being so high might surprise people but they were a missed kick away from being 4-4 with Kyler back and you hope that JG continues to a elevate a defense under him in year 2
46:25 Hayden Hurst definitely had a down year last year with the Panthers, but prior to signing with Carolina. He was with Cincy and was absolutely electric with the energy he brought. Somewhat limited by injuries unfortunately, only 13 games played, but within those 13-games: 52 receptions, 414 yards, and 2-TD's. Visually underwhelming but his on the field energy played a big impact. Whenever he touched the ball it was like an adrenaline shot to the offense, (from a fan's perspective at least.)
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Damn and I thought I was low on the Chargers Pre-watch opinion guesses: 1. He hates the Roman hire 2. Minter is unproven 3. Bad personnel on defense, particularly in the 2nd/3rd levels 4. Herbert's starting to cap out
All these “nepo” hires have had success working with Harbaugh. Most of them are on the defensive side of the ball and ran the defense they’re installing for the last 2-4 years lol.
Pretty huge surprise tbh. I mean I get it but based on how they did last year but Herbert being hopefully healthy and Harbaugh replacing Staley should get them to be at least a mediocre 8/9 win team I feel like. But it is the Chargers so they can always surprise
@@deveanatkinson7426 so after watching tfg’s breakdown, do you still feel that way? If anything for me this video helped me realize how much more lackluster the team is. They’ll more likely than not outplay they’re ranking, but I’m not sure coming into the season on paper they really truly deserve to be that much higher
@@zod548 Yeah I can't really argue with tfg's ranking, on paper they're probably a true talent 5-7 win team but having an elite qb and at least a competent head coach give them more of a boost than you can really show on paper
God I love this series so fucking much. As a casual fan these videos are awesome entertainment that I understand like 40% of, the content is just too good
32. Commanders Prediction for 31: Pats ✅ 31. Pats Prediction for 30: Titans ❌ 30. Panthers Prediction for 29: Giants ❌ 29. Titans Prediction for 28: Broncos ✅ 28. Broncos Prediction for 27: Giants ✅ 27. Giants Prediction for 26: Cardinals ❌ 26. Saints Prediction for 25: Cardinals ❌ 25. Chargers Prediction for 24: come on it gotta be the cards
I mean i like the offense. The O-line leaves some to be desired but ite a good starting point. I like Gannon. He got his team to fight hard last year. Defense needs work though. I could see it being the steelers.
Man, those weapons are an eye-sore. This team makes so much sense as a trade partner for either SF or Cincinnati. Aiyuk in this offense would be perfect.
@@ChewsCarefully Fair compensation would probably be at minimum a conditional 2nd-1st straight up, or a player and a conditional 3rd-2nd. The conditions would be based on Aiyuk's performance throughout 2024.
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After chickening out of Achane last year *right* before his big breakout, after you hyped him up for fantasy...I will follow your advice on Vidal and hold strong this time.
I think that there's a difference between Quentin's rookie year performance and JSN's. Quentin's failures were largely his issues which also showed up in tape at TCU. JSN's performance was poor because of scheme. He literally wasn't targeted at all the first 1/3 of the season. Once the Seahawks OC remembered he existed, he started performing. If JSN's statistics at the end of the season were worse than was expected of him, it wasn't his fault; for Quentin, that's not the case.
loved your thoughts on Herbert's "pocket feel". it's honestly a nuanced discussion because like you said there's definitely plays where he does what you wanna see and it's pretty nitpicky but you have to be nitpicky when we're talking about being an elite nfl qb. and i definitely agree with you, he's certainly not consistent enough at moving in the pocket to maximize the chance of success on offense.
Threading the needle? Getting Ladd instead of a IOL hints toward passing is part Of the plan. I just hope it’s Jim’s and Greg’s plan and not just the organizations plan.
Superb breakdown Marcus. For a non-Charger fan your knowledge is ridiculous and it's a treat watching these annually. The one opinion in this video I want to address is the big one: Justin Herbert. For me, the "issue" in his game you detected is simply a case of "Herbert sometimes processes things too quickly". This is a brainiac whose ability to process information and be coachable is widely acclaimed. Sometimes, I think he operates the Offense almost 'too perfectly', robotically and mechanically, as he's coached to do it. I blame Cristobal and Joe Lombardi for this. And this is where sometimes the All-22 will show Herbert miss an opportunity for a deep completion in favor of a quick win. Using descriptions like 'pocket feel' or pocket awareness', for me, is wrong because Herbert's ability to feel where pressure is coming from, when he has time, and when he doesn't etc, is as Elite as any of the Elite QBs you mentioned as reference points. It's not a lack of "It" factor, I suspect it's simply a slightly conservative game style and the way he's been coached. If Greg Roman and Harbaugh encourage Herbert to wait and take more deep shots, I suspect he will, and it's not an inability to do so that you're watching on tape. However, I'm not sure if Roman/Harbaugh actually will want anything different to what Herbert already does. They are also quite conservative operators so it might be more of the same moving forward with 'quick wins' encouraged more than letting the pass concept develop (which naturally comes with greater risk and invites pressure). We'll soon find out. Other than overlooking tiny things like Pipkins is expected to start at RG (for some reason!), and that Rashawn Slater played with a double high ankle sprain all last season after the Vikes game (thus, explaining his middling run blocking grades), I thought this was an excellent team breakdown by you. Well done.
Yeah I just will continue to disagree about the way he can manage the rush. He senses pressure when it occurs quickly extremely well. But he does not have the ability to sense when pressure isn't there and how to manage the pocket as the play naturally breaks down.
@@ThatFranchiseGuy I mean the beauty of this thing is there are multiple potential explanations for stuff that shows up on tape, and some of it is difficult to quantify like trust in receivers and pass protection, and scheme failing to create open windows, etc. And Herbert isn't immune from blame either, he plays his part. So I can see why you've reached the conclusion you have. Good chat. We need you to come on our show sometime ;-)
With Greg Roman there's a couple of good people in his ear in regards to justin i mean they brought back his qb coach Shane day and Marcus gray from Phili as pass game coordinator plus raven's had a running qb of course the leaned into the run during his tenure
It does feel like we’re in a different TIER with the Saints up. Like the Chargers aren’t gonna suck, but they also have a ton of problems on paper. Ultimately, they might be like the 2023 Rams where if they have the QB and the coach, all the rest of it can be figured out.
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I’m a life long Charger fan but I think you offered honest assessment on some of these position groups. We’re I’d push back a bit is the scheme change and the changes to the position coaches. I think there has been massive upgrades in that department, speaking about the defense specifically of course. I’ve wanted the Chargers to commit to the trenches and improve this defense since 2012. I think given the cap situation this offseason they’ve done about as much as you could to improve the roster depth overall. The tough decision to move on from Keenan I didn’t like at the time, but I understand the logic in bringing in more players to help the team overall. I enjoyed the video I appreciate your honest opinion on the Chargers and where they are currently. The Chargers are building the plane as they go so to speak. Realistically this is a 2-3 year rebuild in my opinion given the lack of depth Hortiz and Harbaugh inherited. Nicely done!
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QJ played all 17 games and got outperformed by JSN who was trapped as the WR3 and dealt with a wrist injury. If a receiver needs to “learn how to catch a football”, they should be treated as Corey Coleman until proven otherwise, no matter how desperate for an X a team is in a crappy draft class.
Pretty die hard charger fan and herbert truther, I think your comments and rankings are very fair. He does leave a little meat on the bone, and us fans are spoiled seeing him make those heroic plays all year that we expect it every down. I do wonder if/how playing hurt and behind a rather weak interior line/storm norton RT has influenced his development. Hoping the new culture sticks and the oline can give him more good looks. All in all very exciting times to finally have a real coach we can believe in... lotta flat years will the stable we've had since Marty
I have not watched this one yet, so maybe after I watch it, I will be convinced, but this is a bit earlier than I expected the Chargers. I kind of thought teams like Cardinals, Colts, Raiders, maybe Tampa, maybe Chicago, maybe Minnesota, maybe the Rams, and maybe the Steelers would be before them. I guess that is 3 teams I would have put ahead of them and another 5, that I would have thought could go either way. Brandon Staley lost the team last year, but I think their roster was better than their results last year and with a good coach (and I think Harbaugh is a good coach), I see them as a bubble playoff team.
coaching upgrade oline upgrade honestly wr upgrade because of health, this team mostly underperformed due to defensive talent just not being coached up and now they do. it’s not that defensive talent was lacking. maybe the offense will be limited w herbert being in a run heavy scheme but this feels harsh. raiders? bucs? steelers? i get maybe steelers but def not raiders i think bucs were lucky w canales but their wr core only got older. like herbert’s biggest losses were because of the defense and the run game the two biggest issues they helped. passing may be concerning but with his arm he might be able to bail out mid playcalling by just keeping windows open with his arm and oline alone
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@@neonwhitea.1548 Not necessarily. They have the worst receiver room in the league according to him and they have many holes in their Off/Def line. Much of their season will rely on rookies doing well and rookies will be rated low in 99% of cases.
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 what’s the worst record a top 6 qb that played 16 games has ever posted in the past 15 years? Genuine question obviously subjective because most qbs who end up playing bad on poor teams are going to get their rating dinged but still I can’t think of one off the top of my head
How is this a hot take they lost a bunch of pieces that weren’t even contributing and have to fix their entire non existent depth this year. Installing a new system on offense and defense. The chargers suck outside of Herbert and Harbaugh
The chargers got swept by the chiefs and broncos and got destroyed by the raiders last year. So they automatically deserve to be second in the division?
The bolts gonna be good marcus...coaching coaching coaching can make a big difference....good o tackles...big time qb....cmon..man...they do have a rough schedule.like denver...ugh.. derwin james..mr bosa...
Marcus these are all very real issues w the Bolts that should have people understanding why they’re 25, only one id slightly push back on is their receiving threats being 31 instead of 32… yes that’s a bit anal but I feel that the Pats have such an unbelievably low upside room devoid of deep threats that Ladd moves them up if only one spot. Great stuff as always.
Chargers will finish with a winning record because thats what Jim Harbaugh does. It will be a slow burn but by season end nobody will want to face them.
I'd like to point out a couple of things. First, the Staley coaching regime should do time for coaching malpractice. That team coached by that guy went to the playoffs once and lost a huge lead...historically bad coaching. That roster was stacked. They couldn't run the ball last year. And say what you like about losing Ekeler, Williams, and Lindsley, the team didn't have them for a good chunk of last year. The Chargers upgraded each of those positions when you consider it in that light. The loss of Allen was regrettable but Ladd in this offense is going to be killer and people are overlooking Chark. Yeah, he hasn't been a world beater before, but he's never had Herbert throwing him the ball. And this team hasn't had TEs that could competently block, let alone block well. Everybody knew going in last year that Pipkins was a liability on that right side. Now he's a guard next to an awesome young talent. I think you underestimate the offense. Players with a history of injury I get, totally. But that offense is gonna be sick. As for the Defense, I think that is where the real concerns ought to be. They didn't really address that defensive interior. The defensive coordinator is new in his role at the NFL level. That DB group has historically been pedestrian. And the edges are old. The defense feels like the weak link on this team. Lack of talent...I'd concur. There are great players, just not enough. Maybe the linebacker room will play a bigger role in stopping the run. Maybe the new strength and conditioning coach will turn those guys into mutants. Maybe the coaching last year really was that bad and this new coaching staff will have that much of an improvement. Who knows? I'm just gonna say this. Harbaugh has won everywhere he has gone. Rarely has he had a QB like Herbert. Alex Smith was a bust when Harbaugh got ahold of him and Kap was fine, but his play was never really his greatest claim to fame. People talk like Roman can't scheme a passing game. That seems like lazy analysis. Why did Harbaugh, a guy that has won everywhere he's gone, choose Roman? That running game must be pretty special. Maybe Harbaugh is expecting to handle Herbert personally and will have Roman devoted to the running game. Great running games open the gaps in the defenses. Maybe I'm just overenthusiastic, but I think the league is sleeping on this team. I wonder what they were saying about the 49ers chances of doing anything in the offseason Harbaugh took over there # the over
Below the Chiefs, the AFC west is a true toss up. No idea how these 3 teams end up placing. Raiders dont have a QB, Chargers have a QB and nothing else, the Broncos have a question mark at QB lol
Not surprised Chargers are this low, probably a bottom 5-10 roster in a very good AFC. Herbert and Harbaugh can only cover so many cracks even with a expected easier schedule. O-line is a downgrade for me till i see Alt play. They'll probably be better overall including run blocking because of the scheme but Corey Linsley was the 2nd most important player on offense after Herbert the last few years imo. Disagree, he was still playing well and made the rest of oline better. He had a heart issue rather than a neck problem too.
Cowherd, Wright, and Acho are way too low on Herbert. Especially Acho because of his love for Tua. But that's why you should see those types of shows as entertainment, not actual substance
You put the pass game coaching so low and I do get a little bit of that but you should realize that Harbaugh was a quarterback and can coach quarterbacks
Except he has never coached a high flying passing attack in the era of 7v7. Stanford is the only feather in his cap and that's how many years ago and barely scraping 3000 yards passing
@@nolanlight5386 unified, love to see it. In all seriousness, I love tfg but I think he has y'all too low. All things equal, I don't see how they're going to be worse than either Arizona or Las Vegas. Tampa Bay and Atlanta are in the debate as well.
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Honestly as a Chargers fan I was tired of the hype every year that we never lived up to
It’s always more fun to exceed expectations (even if those expectations are low) than it is to fall short. I think this year Chargers fans should have more fun due to this year being a prove it year and I think a playoff bid would be a huge success.
TFG QB rankings
6. Justin Herbert
20. Derek Carr
23. Daniel Jones
25. Bryce Young
27. Jacoby Brissett/Drake Maye
28. Will Levis
T29. Bo Nix
32. Jayden Daniels
The 6th best QB on the 25th best team 😢. How bad is this roster??
Commenting to reward the heroism
Is it a hot take to say that Jaden Daniel’s will be better than drake maye? (Not saying I think he will be bad year one, but we have seen this a lot. You have a small, athletic black qb versus the prototype raw white guy.)
Yeah, he gets his rankings from every other channel
Carr #6 wow what was he ranked end of last year?
THE CARDINALS STILL MOVES ON!!! RAHH
Somehow 😂
@josecuevas644 We gonna find out that Marcus secretly has them as a top 10 team and they will make the playoffs 😂
@@greenswamponion7330 not even Cardinals fans are going to believe that ranking 😂😅
Top 15 players in the series so far
1. Dexter Lawrence (95)
2. Pat Surtain (94)
3. Andrew Thomas (89)
4. Terry Mclaurin (89)
5. Derrick Brown (88)
6. Demario Davis (87)
7. DeAndre Hopkins (87)
8. Khalil Mack (87)
9. Tyrann Matthieu (87)
10. Justin Herbert (86)
11. Rashawn Slater (86)
12. L'jarius Sneed (86)
13. Marshon Lattimore (86)
14. Jeffery Simmons (85)
15. Chris Olave (85)
Sneed needs to be moved up
Just shows he’s a Herbert hater like most casuals who only see the winning side
@@DylanWolfram14
Definitely didnt watch the video.
@@DylanWolfram14 saying this guy is a casual is beyond ridiculous with the amount of film he obviously watches. Just say you disagree and move on
Wow! Can't believe they're rated worse than the Raiders. Excited to watch!
You can’t believe a team on the receiving end of a 63 point smackdown is worse than the team that put up that 63? Lol
I’m guessing the Raiders will be up soon, but they do have a good defense which helps them.
Chargers suck 😂😂 no depth new regime and a qb that could be broken from injuries and bad coaching. At least the raiders have a defense come on let’s be smart bolt fans
Thank you, tired of ppl saying this is the charger's year.
@@okaythanks872 whoa there saying Herbert is broken is a reach, his floor is still a top 10 QB… as much as I hate that as a broncos fan
I didnt expect this one so soon after the last one that was like 3 days ago youre on a roll
Gonna have to keep at this pace the rest of the summer so buckle up!
Khalil mack on stunts is the Chargers best defensive tackle 💀💀💀
Cardinals being so high might surprise people but they were a missed kick away from being 4-4 with Kyler back and you hope that JG continues to a elevate a defense under him in year 2
They’re schedule is daunting
46:25 Hayden Hurst definitely had a down year last year with the Panthers, but prior to signing with Carolina. He was with Cincy and was absolutely electric with the energy he brought. Somewhat limited by injuries unfortunately, only 13 games played, but within those 13-games: 52 receptions, 414 yards, and 2-TD's. Visually underwhelming but his on the field energy played a big impact. Whenever he touched the ball it was like an adrenaline shot to the offense, (from a fan's perspective at least.)
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Damn and I thought I was low on the Chargers
Pre-watch opinion guesses:
1. He hates the Roman hire
2. Minter is unproven
3. Bad personnel on defense, particularly in the 2nd/3rd levels
4. Herbert's starting to cap out
The nepotism is actually crazy. It’s like John was like “lemme help you out here lil bro”
More like half the staff were on expiring contracts, saw another Harbaugh get hired, and spammed his phone
All these “nepo” hires have had success working with Harbaugh. Most of them are on the defensive side of the ball and ran the defense they’re installing for the last 2-4 years lol.
@@CG12321Jim needs to form his own identity. This just screams "I know nobody at this level and need a couple years."
Pretty huge surprise tbh. I mean I get it but based on how they did last year but Herbert being hopefully healthy and Harbaugh replacing Staley should get them to be at least a mediocre 8/9 win team I feel like. But it is the Chargers so they can always surprise
That’s not enough in the AFC imo , hasn’t been for a while
@@zod548 I agree it's not enough for the playoffs but in terms of the rankings they should be more like 16-20 range rather than 25
@@deveanatkinson7426 so after watching tfg’s breakdown, do you still feel that way? If anything for me this video helped me realize how much more lackluster the team is. They’ll more likely than not outplay they’re ranking, but I’m not sure coming into the season on paper they really truly deserve to be that much higher
@@zod548 Yeah I can't really argue with tfg's ranking, on paper they're probably a true talent 5-7 win team but having an elite qb and at least a competent head coach give them more of a boost than you can really show on paper
@@deveanatkinson7426 I agree
God I love this series so fucking much. As a casual fan these videos are awesome entertainment that I understand like 40% of, the content is just too good
Damn, first one I'm surprised at. Still super excited to watch. This series has been awesome this year so far!
You had the Rams at 31, the Texans at 30, The Buccaneers at 29, Packers at 21 last year….
So should we just lock the Chargers in the playoffs now?
picky picky picky
@@genethedancinmachine5483 chalk, chalk, chalk. Whatever the consensus opinion is, copy and paste that to these videos.
@@DylanWolfram14ur crazy, hes always going against the grain
@@gabrielleinweber1763 really? Have you looked at last years rankings?
so glad the deep dives are back
I don't think Justin loves to trow short I more think that reflects his weapons he had
Glad I'm not the only one questioning the Chargers. I'll just assume Harbaugh sees something I don't. Which is probably the case.
Jesus man, you made me watch The Titanic (199?) review for my team. Bolt up.
32. Commanders
Prediction for 31: Pats ✅
31. Pats
Prediction for 30: Titans ❌
30. Panthers
Prediction for 29: Giants ❌
29. Titans
Prediction for 28: Broncos ✅
28. Broncos
Prediction for 27: Giants ✅
27. Giants
Prediction for 26: Cardinals ❌
26. Saints
Prediction for 25: Cardinals ❌
25. Chargers
Prediction for 24: come on it gotta be the cards
I mean i like the offense. The O-line leaves some to be desired but ite a good starting point. I like Gannon. He got his team to fight hard last year. Defense needs work though. I could see it being the steelers.
It's gonna be teams with meh qb. I guess raiders
Give it up
Third time is the charm
@@dawsnoshift nah cause last time I gave up on the titans and it was immediately the titans there after
Man, those weapons are an eye-sore. This team makes so much sense as a trade partner for either SF or Cincinnati. Aiyuk in this offense would be perfect.
What are they gonna trade _for_ him?
@@ChewsCarefully Fair compensation would probably be at minimum a conditional 2nd-1st straight up, or a player and a conditional 3rd-2nd. The conditions would be based on Aiyuk's performance throughout 2024.
@@ChewsCarefully hell, the 9ers have to forfeit a 2025 5th, throw that in there too
Great job! As always, I love all your insight and analysis. You are my go-to for anything football related whether that be the draft, learning about players, Madden whether that's your roster or your franchises. Your videos always bring me so much enjoyment and happiness. They help keep my passion for the sport going strong. Thank you for all you do for us. You are truly amazing. I wanted to thank you, especially for this series. It brings me so much joy and gets me through so many hard days. I often come back to these in season whether it be needing help with a Madden franchise or just to see how everything's turned out. I still remember the first time I showed your content to my friends and family whether that be showing a Packers, deep dive to my family or sending my friends a couple other deep dives or having a debate about Zach Wilson after watching a draft video. Sorry to ramble on for so long. New content means a lot to me. Thanks again 💙
That D-Line segment was just a Ronnie Stanley lowlight reel, man was that Chargers game was rough 😭
After chickening out of Achane last year *right* before his big breakout, after you hyped him up for fantasy...I will follow your advice on Vidal and hold strong this time.
I think that there's a difference between Quentin's rookie year performance and JSN's. Quentin's failures were largely his issues which also showed up in tape at TCU. JSN's performance was poor because of scheme. He literally wasn't targeted at all the first 1/3 of the season. Once the Seahawks OC remembered he existed, he started performing. If JSN's statistics at the end of the season were worse than was expected of him, it wasn't his fault; for Quentin, that's not the case.
1:14:08 throughout camp, Trey has been starting at RG and Harbaugh/Roman have been describing him as the starter over Salyer! What do you think?
Can’t believe cardinals haven’t been revealed yet
My rankings for all 32 franchises this year. The franchises revealed by Marcus thus far are mentioned in his order.
7th tier "Rebuilding, not competitive", 6 franchises, 27th - 32nd best franchises: 27th Giants, 28th Broncos, 29th Titans, 30th Panthers, 31st Patriots, 32nd Commanders;
6th tier "Rather weak or rebuilding", 3 franchises, 24th - 26th best franchises: 24th Chargers, 25th Vikings, 26th Saints;
5th tier "Average", 4 franchises, 20th - 23rd best franchises: 20th Bears, 21st Cardinals, 22nd Raiders, 23rd Colts;
4th tier "Borderline playoff caliber", 4 franchises, 16th to 19th best franchises: 16th Browns, 17th Jaguars, 18th Seahawks, 19th Buccaneers;
3rd tier "Playoff caliber", 9 franchises, 7th - 15th best franchises: 7th Eagles, 8th Ravens, 9th Packers, 10th Bills, 11th Falcons, 12th Dolphins, 13th Steelers, 14th Rams, 15th Cowboys;
2nd tier "Deep playoffs run", 2 franchises, 5th - 6th best franchises: 5th Texans, 6th Jets;
1st tier, "Superbowl contenders", 4 franchises, 1st - 4th best franchises: 1st Bengals, 2nd Chiefs, 3rd 49ers, 4th Lions;
Fair ranking. Pretty hard to win when you have 17 games without a home crowd advantage
Are you going to do a review of everything you’ve said about the team power rankings at the end of the season?
Negative! These will likely push right up against the start of the season!
You should have given a current grade and a projection grade! Because the position group grades don’t add up to your player expectations.
Justin Simmons on this defense to play that Marcus Williams role would be insane, idrk what their cap situation is to be able to afford that though.
loved your thoughts on Herbert's "pocket feel". it's honestly a nuanced discussion because like you said there's definitely plays where he does what you wanna see and it's pretty nitpicky but you have to be nitpicky when we're talking about being an elite nfl qb. and i definitely agree with you, he's certainly not consistent enough at moving in the pocket to maximize the chance of success on offense.
You have Tom Telesco and Brandon Stayley era to thank for the such a great to really
Good special teams🎉
I too am concerned about the interior defensive line and DB groups.
Threading the needle? Getting Ladd instead of a IOL hints toward passing is part
Of the plan. I just hope it’s Jim’s and Greg’s plan and not just the organizations plan.
Superb breakdown Marcus. For a non-Charger fan your knowledge is ridiculous and it's a treat watching these annually.
The one opinion in this video I want to address is the big one: Justin Herbert. For me, the "issue" in his game you detected is simply a case of "Herbert sometimes processes things too quickly". This is a brainiac whose ability to process information and be coachable is widely acclaimed. Sometimes, I think he operates the Offense almost 'too perfectly', robotically and mechanically, as he's coached to do it. I blame Cristobal and Joe Lombardi for this. And this is where sometimes the All-22 will show Herbert miss an opportunity for a deep completion in favor of a quick win. Using descriptions like 'pocket feel' or pocket awareness', for me, is wrong because Herbert's ability to feel where pressure is coming from, when he has time, and when he doesn't etc, is as Elite as any of the Elite QBs you mentioned as reference points. It's not a lack of "It" factor, I suspect it's simply a slightly conservative game style and the way he's been coached. If Greg Roman and Harbaugh encourage Herbert to wait and take more deep shots, I suspect he will, and it's not an inability to do so that you're watching on tape. However, I'm not sure if Roman/Harbaugh actually will want anything different to what Herbert already does. They are also quite conservative operators so it might be more of the same moving forward with 'quick wins' encouraged more than letting the pass concept develop (which naturally comes with greater risk and invites pressure). We'll soon find out.
Other than overlooking tiny things like Pipkins is expected to start at RG (for some reason!), and that Rashawn Slater played with a double high ankle sprain all last season after the Vikes game (thus, explaining his middling run blocking grades), I thought this was an excellent team breakdown by you. Well done.
Yeah I just will continue to disagree about the way he can manage the rush. He senses pressure when it occurs quickly extremely well. But he does not have the ability to sense when pressure isn't there and how to manage the pocket as the play naturally breaks down.
@@ThatFranchiseGuy I mean the beauty of this thing is there are multiple potential explanations for stuff that shows up on tape, and some of it is difficult to quantify like trust in receivers and pass protection, and scheme failing to create open windows, etc. And Herbert isn't immune from blame either, he plays his part. So I can see why you've reached the conclusion you have. Good chat. We need you to come on our show sometime ;-)
Another Vidal truther in the wild. Felt like I was alone on that island. Vidal Season is gonna be so fun to watch
If you don’t have a guest for the Steelers you should look toward moats & Deke or Alex Kazora best Steelers minds on TH-cam. LOVING THE SERIES
estime over vidal? i think some of the rb's were taken way out of order.
With Greg Roman there's a couple of good people in his ear in regards to justin i mean they brought back his qb coach Shane day and Marcus gray from Phili as pass game coordinator plus raven's had a running qb of course the leaned into the run during his tenure
Marcus, whenever you rank the Packers, it would be mind-blowing if you brought on Andy Herman
I still have nightmares of that one game the broncos made will dissly look like prime George Kittle
Last years' quarterback ranking:
Rank Franchise QB Ranking Rating
1 Chiefs Mahomes 1 99
2 Bengals Burrow 2 94
3 Bills Allen 3 93
4 Jets Rodgers 4 90
5 Chargers Herbert 5 88
6 Jaguars Lawrence 6 85
7 Eagles Hurts 7 82
8 Cardinals Murray 8 84
9 Ravens Jackson 8 82
10 Cowboys Prescott 9 81
11 Vikings Cousins 10 81
12 Rams Stafford 11 84
13 Browns Watson 12 80
14 Broncos Wilson 13 81
15 Lions Goff 14 79
16 Seahawks Smith 15 79
17 Panthers Young 16 78
18 Titans Tannehill 18 77
19 Giants Jones 19 77
20 Saints Carr 20 77
21 Dolphins Tagovailoa 21 78
22 Steelers Pickett 22 76
23 Patriots Jones 23 76
24 Texans Stroud 24 75
25 Bears Fields 24 75
26 Packers Love 26 74
27 49ers Purdy 27 73
28 Raiders Garapollo 28 75
29 Buccaneers Mayfield 28 72
30 Falcons Ridder 30 70
31 Colts Richardson 31 69
32 Commanders Howell 32 68
It does feel like we’re in a different TIER with the Saints up. Like the Chargers aren’t gonna suck, but they also have a ton of problems on paper.
Ultimately, they might be like the 2023 Rams where if they have the QB and the coach, all the rest of it can be figured out.
Keep an eye on Justin Eboigie from. BAMA nice size could be an every down interior defensive lineman he went to school in my city he’s a gamer!!
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
I really want to see Herbert’s legs utilized in the red zone. He ran for a lot of touchdowns at Oregon. I think he could do the same in the NFL.
Maybe you guey could reach out snd petition for better retings?
JSN catching a weird stray lol. Seahawks episode should be interesting
Damn I did not expect to see the chargers this early
Imagine if QJ would just be what we thought he was gonna be, there would be a totally different outlook on this team
STILL NO CARDINALS 🎉🎉🎉 honestly i could see the raiders or seahawks rated lower too at this point
Marcus when he hears I traded Ladd McConkey for Bryce Young in my dynasty league
👁️👄👁️
It’s both his draft crushes
Ok as a raiders fan, I can’t believe we’ve made it this far and I’m a bit surprised that the chargers are ranked here at #25.
The biggest hot take from this video is that you don’t have the Texans as the #1 Special Teams
This video was an accidental Lamar Jackson highlight reel
The first year I feel like the “hype train” and optimism as a chargers fan is finally logically is when TFG gives up on us 🤣
Last years* elite- and star-ranked players:
Columns are es follows: Players' names, Franchise, Position, Grade Overall or diverse Grades for RBs, CBs and Safeties ( respectively diverse grades for "receiving" and "running" or "covering" and "run defense" ), last coumn: if the position is listed in the last column again, the player is the "King" within this position. The franchises are in alphabetical order: For example the first player in this list is Trent Williams, 49ers, Left Tackle ( LT ), Grade: 99. Since the LT appears at the end again, Trent was ranked "King" of all LTs by Marcus last year ( 2023 ). If you have questions, feel free to post them! Regards to all the data- psychos ;0) !
1 Trent Williams 49ers LT 99 LT
2 Nick Bosa 49ers ED 96
3 Fred Warner 49ers LB 93 LB
4 George Kittle 49ers TE 92
5 Deebo Samuel 49ers WR 90
6 Christian McCaffree 49ers RB 87 A+ RB Receiving
7 Javon Hargrave 49ers IDL 87
8 DJ Moore Bears WR 86
9 Stefon Diggs Bills WR 94
10 Josh Allen Bills QB 93 3
11 Tre'Davious White Bills CB 88 C
12 Jordan Poyer Bills S 86 B
13 Micah Hyde Bills S 86 B-
14 von Miller Bills ED 86 PUP
15 Patrick Surtain Broncos CB 92 B+
16 Justin Simmons Broncos S 87 B
17 Miles Garrett Browns ED 97 ED
18 Nick Chubb Browns RB 96 B- RB Running
19 Joel Bitonio Browns LG 92
20 Denzel Ward Browns CB 88 C
21 Z'Darius Smith Browns ED 87
22 Amari Cooper Browns WR 87
23 Tristan Wirfs Buccaneers LT 89
24 Lavonte David Buccaneers LB 88
25 Mike Evans Buccaneers WR 87
26 Antoine Winfield Jr. Buccaneers S/ SCB 86 A+
27 Vita Vea Buccaneers NT 86
28 Joey Bosa Chargers ED 89
29 Justin Herbert Chargers QB 88
30 Corey Linsley Chargers C 87
31 Jonathan Taylor Colts RB 93
32 Quenton Nelson Colts LG 90
33 DeForest Buckner Colts IDL 87
34 Shaquille Leonard Colts LB 86
35 Terry McLaurin Commanders WR 90
36 Jonathan Allen Commanders IDL 87
37 Micah Parsons Cowboys ED 95
38 Zack Martin Cowboys RG 91
39 CeeDee Lamb Cowboys WR 89
40 Tyreek Hill Dolphins WR 99 WR
41 Jalen Ramsey Dolphins CB 92 A+
42 Jaelan Phillips Dolphins ED 86
43 Christian Wilkins Dolphins IDL 86
44 AJ Brown Eagles WR 94
45 Jason Kelce Eagles C 90 C
46 Lane Johnson Eagles RT 88
47 Hasson Redick Eagles ED 87
48 DeVonta Smith Eagles WR 86
49 Dallas Goedert Eagles TE 86
50 Chris Lindstrom Falcons RG 92
51 Jessy Bates Falcons S 91 B
52 Bijan Robinson Falcons RB 89 A
53 A.J. Terrell Falcons CB 88 B
54 Dexter Lawrence Giants IDL 92
55 Andrew Thomas Giants LT 92
56 Saquon Barkley Giants RB 90 A
57 Sauce Gardner Jets CB 92 B+ CB
58 Aaron Rodgers Jets QB 90
59 Quinnen Williams Jets IDL 87
60 Garrett Wilson Jets WR 86
61 Frank Ragnow Lions C 87
62 Jaire Alexander Packers CB 93 B
63 David Bakhtiari Packers LT 92
64 Rashan Gary Packers ED 88
65 Aaron Jones Packers RB 87 A
66 Kenny Clark Packers IDL 86
67 Davante Adams Raiders WR 97
68 Josh Jacobs Raiders RB 91
69 Max Crosby Raiders ED 90
70 Kolton Miller Raiders LT 86
71 Aaron Donald Rams IDL 97
72 Cooper Kupp Rams WR 95
73 Roquan Smith Ravens LB 90
74 Marlon Humphrey Ravens CB 89 B+
75 Mark Andrews Ravens TE 89
76 Ronnie Stanley Ravens LT 88
77 Marcus Williams Ravens FS 86 B+
78 Marshon Lattimore Saints CB 88 B-
79 Tyrann Mathieu Saints S 86 B-
80 Damario Davis Saints LB 86
81 Ryan Ramczyk Saints RT 86
82 DK Metcalf Seahawks WR 87
83 T.J. Watt Steelers ED 95
84 Minkah Fitzpatrick Steelers S 92 B
85 Cameron Heyward Steelers IDL 88
86 Laremy Tunsil Texans LT 90
87 Derrick Henry Titans RB 95 C+
88 Kevin Byard Titans S 90 A
89 DeAndre Hopkins Titans WR 90
90 Jeffery Simmons Titans DT 87
91 Justin Jefferson Vikings WR 98
92 Danielle Hunter Vikings ED 86
93 Ja'Marr Chase Bengals WR 92
94 Joe Burrow Bengals QB 94
95 Tee Higgins Bengals WR 87
96 Trey Hendrickson Bengals ED 86
97 DJ Reader Bengals IDL 88
I’m a life long Charger fan but I think you offered honest assessment on some of these position groups. We’re I’d push back a bit is the scheme change and the changes to the position coaches. I think there has been massive upgrades in that department, speaking about the defense specifically of course.
I’ve wanted the Chargers to commit to the trenches and improve this defense since 2012. I think given the cap situation this offseason they’ve done about as much as you could to improve the roster depth overall. The tough decision to move on from Keenan I didn’t like at the time, but I understand the logic in bringing in more players to help the team overall.
I enjoyed the video I appreciate your honest opinion on the Chargers and where they are currently. The Chargers are building the plane as they go so to speak. Realistically this is a 2-3 year rebuild in my opinion given the lack of depth Hortiz and Harbaugh inherited. Nicely done!
Thank you!
Guys! The 2024 NFL season will start on September, 5th! If Marcus plans to deliver all 25 remaining deep dives until the evening of September the 4th, and if he will more or less launch all new deep dives within the same periods of time, we are looking forward to enjoy a new deep dive more or less every 3 days!!! To me, that's good news, regardless of when my favorite or most anticipated franchises will pop up!
You are really high on the cardinals
QJ played all 17 games and got outperformed by JSN who was trapped as the WR3 and dealt with a wrist injury. If a receiver needs to “learn how to catch a football”, they should be treated as Corey Coleman until proven otherwise, no matter how desperate for an X a team is in a crappy draft class.
The real question is how was malik nabers available at pick 5 in ur rookie dynasty draft?
It's a 2 QB league.
Pretty die hard charger fan and herbert truther, I think your comments and rankings are very fair. He does leave a little meat on the bone, and us fans are spoiled seeing him make those heroic plays all year that we expect it every down. I do wonder if/how playing hurt and behind a rather weak interior line/storm norton RT has influenced his development. Hoping the new culture sticks and the oline can give him more good looks. All in all very exciting times to finally have a real coach we can believe in... lotta flat years will the stable we've had since Marty
RAAAAIDERRRRSSSSSSSSS. TFG sees the vision! Best DL in the NFL🤫💯
I have not watched this one yet, so maybe after I watch it, I will be convinced, but this is a bit earlier than I expected the Chargers. I kind of thought teams like Cardinals, Colts, Raiders, maybe Tampa, maybe Chicago, maybe Minnesota, maybe the Rams, and maybe the Steelers would be before them. I guess that is 3 teams I would have put ahead of them and another 5, that I would have thought could go either way.
Brandon Staley lost the team last year, but I think their roster was better than their results last year and with a good coach (and I think Harbaugh is a good coach), I see them as a bubble playoff team.
I forgot greg roman got hired as OC. Take the over on justin herbert 400 rush yards if it's there for sure lol
tfg please give me a ball knowers test that I can ace so I can be your special guest for the lions episode
coaching upgrade oline upgrade honestly wr upgrade because of health, this team mostly underperformed due to defensive talent just not being coached up and now they do. it’s not that defensive talent was lacking. maybe the offense will be limited w herbert being in a run heavy scheme but this feels harsh. raiders? bucs? steelers? i get maybe steelers but def not raiders i think bucs were lucky w canales but their wr core only got older. like herbert’s biggest losses were because of the defense and the run game the two biggest issues they helped. passing may be concerning but with his arm he might be able to bail out mid playcalling by just keeping windows open with his arm and oline alone
For the Algo! Also still salty you have the Titans so low. 😢😂
@That Franchise Guy: I hope You enjoyed Your trip to Europe?! I like it when You mix in some german words like "Spiel" etc. ( Spiel means "Game" in german, spellel "speel", for those who did not know! ) Is Your wife Hannah actually from Germany or a nothern European country? Because Hannah is a german name. Regards!
I love you because u don’t gaf lol
On paper they remind me of the 2021 lions, but with a higher ceiling qb. I think considering the placement on this list, they should overperform
Me being 5’8 215. “I am Kimani Vidal”.
Voice of reason- “you are just short and fat and KV just isn’t” haha
Never forget the 2010 chargers haha top 5 defense top 5 offense second round out with a bottom of the league special teams
The only way this makes sense is if Herbert isn’t a top 10 qb for you this year r
He put Herbert 6th.
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754just doesn’t make any sense, a top 6 qb should make pretty much any team top 15
@@neonwhitea.1548 Not necessarily. They have the worst receiver room in the league according to him and they have many holes in their Off/Def line. Much of their season will rely on rookies doing well and rookies will be rated low in 99% of cases.
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 what’s the worst record a top 6 qb that played 16 games has ever posted in the past 15 years? Genuine question obviously subjective because most qbs who end up playing bad on poor teams are going to get their rating dinged but still I can’t think of one off the top of my head
@@neonwhitea.1548 I'm not sure.
Finally I can have my opinion
This isn’t even a hot take, this is a blazing on fire straight from hell take
They have a QB, and some pieces here and there. A bit low, maybe, but not that surprising.
How is this a hot take they lost a bunch of pieces that weren’t even contributing and have to fix their entire non existent depth this year. Installing a new system on offense and defense. The chargers suck outside of Herbert and Harbaugh
Their roster outside of Herbert is awful, and there’s still the Greg Roman question
The chargers got swept by the chiefs and broncos and got destroyed by the raiders last year. So they automatically deserve to be second in the division?
The bolts gonna be good marcus...coaching coaching coaching can make a big difference....good o tackles...big time qb....cmon..man...they do have a rough schedule.like denver...ugh.. derwin james..mr bosa...
Good I like the negativity...
Marcus these are all very real issues w the Bolts that should have people understanding why they’re 25, only one id slightly push back on is their receiving threats being 31 instead of 32… yes that’s a bit anal but I feel that the Pats have such an unbelievably low upside room devoid of deep threats that Ladd moves them up if only one spot. Great stuff as always.
Cam dicker the kicker
I’m betting it all on chargers over 8.5
Chargers will finish with a winning record because thats what Jim Harbaugh does. It will be a slow burn but by season end nobody will want to face them.
I'd like to point out a couple of things. First, the Staley coaching regime should do time for coaching malpractice. That team coached by that guy went to the playoffs once and lost a huge lead...historically bad coaching. That roster was stacked. They couldn't run the ball last year. And say what you like about losing Ekeler, Williams, and Lindsley, the team didn't have them for a good chunk of last year. The Chargers upgraded each of those positions when you consider it in that light. The loss of Allen was regrettable but Ladd in this offense is going to be killer and people are overlooking Chark. Yeah, he hasn't been a world beater before, but he's never had Herbert throwing him the ball. And this team hasn't had TEs that could competently block, let alone block well. Everybody knew going in last year that Pipkins was a liability on that right side. Now he's a guard next to an awesome young talent. I think you underestimate the offense. Players with a history of injury I get, totally. But that offense is gonna be sick.
As for the Defense, I think that is where the real concerns ought to be. They didn't really address that defensive interior. The defensive coordinator is new in his role at the NFL level. That DB group has historically been pedestrian. And the edges are old. The defense feels like the weak link on this team. Lack of talent...I'd concur. There are great players, just not enough. Maybe the linebacker room will play a bigger role in stopping the run. Maybe the new strength and conditioning coach will turn those guys into mutants. Maybe the coaching last year really was that bad and this new coaching staff will have that much of an improvement. Who knows?
I'm just gonna say this. Harbaugh has won everywhere he has gone. Rarely has he had a QB like Herbert. Alex Smith was a bust when Harbaugh got ahold of him and Kap was fine, but his play was never really his greatest claim to fame. People talk like Roman can't scheme a passing game. That seems like lazy analysis. Why did Harbaugh, a guy that has won everywhere he's gone, choose Roman? That running game must be pretty special. Maybe Harbaugh is expecting to handle Herbert personally and will have Roman devoted to the running game. Great running games open the gaps in the defenses. Maybe I'm just overenthusiastic, but I think the league is sleeping on this team. I wonder what they were saying about the 49ers chances of doing anything in the offseason Harbaugh took over there
# the over
Worse than the Raiders and Cardinals!? I'm skeptical but here for it
Chargers finished last in AFC west
Below the Chiefs, the AFC west is a true toss up. No idea how these 3 teams end up placing. Raiders dont have a QB, Chargers have a QB and nothing else, the Broncos have a question mark at QB lol
1:20:33 YOOOOO 😭😭😭
Not surprised Chargers are this low, probably a bottom 5-10 roster in a very good AFC. Herbert and Harbaugh can only cover so many cracks even with a expected easier schedule.
O-line is a downgrade for me till i see Alt play. They'll probably be better overall including run blocking because of the scheme but Corey Linsley was the 2nd most important player on offense after Herbert the last few years imo. Disagree, he was still playing well and made the rest of oline better. He had a heart issue rather than a neck problem too.
Cowherd, Wright, and Acho are way too low on Herbert. Especially Acho because of his love for Tua. But that's why you should see those types of shows as entertainment, not actual substance
As long they don’t use Ladd X he should be fine.
lol well damn the Vikings aren’t on here yet 😮😂
You put the pass game coaching so low and I do get a little bit of that but you should realize that Harbaugh was a quarterback and can coach quarterbacks
Except he has never coached a high flying passing attack in the era of 7v7. Stanford is the only feather in his cap and that's how many years ago and barely scraping 3000 yards passing
@@samwroblewski748 that's fair
This has to be clickbait! We are top 10 (I’m a delusional chargers fan)
That means at least a tenth of all chargers' fans are delusional.
@@zackhurwitz9441nah all 10 of us decided we all agree last meeting.
@@nolanlight5386 unified, love to see it. In all seriousness, I love tfg but I think he has y'all too low. All things equal, I don't see how they're going to be worse than either Arizona or Las Vegas. Tampa Bay and Atlanta are in the debate as well.
Woah!
I will say being high on QJ but not Rice is interesting, considering they’re the same exact player
Couldn't disagree more actually.
Rice is entirely stiff and a poor athlete, Quentin has all of the speed and movement skills you look for.
I feel like the chargers offense is going to be like the 2011-2012 Niners offense when Alex Smith was quarterback.
46:54
As a Chargers fan u couldnt be more wrong on Ladd. Completely overhyped, to say he do well against NFL press coverage is just completely false