At 1:47 drilling holes puts you at extreme risk of marring the metal where it mates with the black oil seal by drilling right into the edge of the oil seal/metal. It is better to file a large flathead screwdriver into a sharper edge and stick to tapping away with a hammer if you aren't getting it to bite the edge of the seal. If it is thin enough to bite into the edge of the seal, it will give with some taps. Any damage caused there is not as bad as what could easily happen if you drill. Besides, the proper way to do this is to remove the crankcase cover and press it from behind. Obviously a lot of us prefer this shortcut including myself esp for my own engine. BTW thanks for posting this because as of now there are still only about 2 videos on this job with this kind of engine!
I remember watching this video a long time ago . I'd like to say thank you for making it because I knew eventually we would have to change one. My son did follow your video perfectly and he was very proud of himself for doing it we both like to say thank you.
OMG!! Haven't heard from you in ages. Thought maybe channel was getting to offensive for you. I know it can get out of hand at times with some of our riders. Well it's really good to hear from you again and happy the video helped out your son. Cheers buddy!!
Might be an older video of yours, But it still helped me today. My Outlander has a leaking water pump but it is 6 hours away at my property, so this really helped me get an idea of what I need to bring, and what I'm up against to get the job done! Thanks! #BuiltByBo
Great video guys! Took quite a bit of time to get it all out without damaging the housing or shaft! A baby chisel would have been the answer but had a small screwdriver that worked! Thanks again! To anyone doing this be patient and watch the video a couple times and it'll work!
Thanks for posting this video as i am about to tackle this task.Just bought a 650 max and limp home mode appeared on display so i checked rad fluid level and it was low,but when i filled it just drained out the water pump relief tube..cheers from b.c.west coast
I followed your video and still had the leak. What I found is that I needed to seat the inner ring of the new part connected to the spring. Just flipping the socket around and tapping didn't do it. I needed to use a few washers and a M8x1.25 nut to seat the new part correctly. Other then that additional step your video was very helpful.
Yes that was the tricky part. Knowing how much to tap the center. First time I did it I just got lucky and pushed it in far enough that it didn't leak. Second time I didn't tap it far enough and it leaked. But was easy enough to remove the cover and tap it a little further. I guess this is the way we learn. Thanks for commenting and glad it worked out for you.
If you can add a text comment over the end of the video like "not showed: use 8Mx1.25 nut and washer to seat inner spring ring flush." Don't want the next guy to deal with DIY ignorance like I did. I messed with it for several weekends and lost two outings. Still saved a ton of money though. thanks
Shop manual also has the washer and nut instruction in it and the press tool. Very helpful video though for those of us not near a dealer to get the press tool.
Wish I read this comment first. Watched video, followed video to a T. Old one came out quite easy; new one went in straight and seemed to be flush and seated. Added coolant and started unit and it's almost as if the coolant drains straight out the weep tube. I will remove cover/impeller tomorrow and try putting the nut/washers on to seat further. Hopefully I didn't ruin seal by tapping in center spring portion. Excellent video though, thanks.
thanks for this video.. i have a 2007 outlander XT that coolant is escaping into the engine oil... I will be doing this fix next weekend... the weep hole issue explains why the seals where out over time
Thanks for your video on the water pump seal / oil seal replacement! Great video, easy to follow.I have one question though, did you do this seal change because the coolant was leaking into the oil? That is my issue at the moment and I wonder if this could solve it...Thanks , keep the videos coming.
Thanks Jason. We changed the seal because it was leaking through weep hole. In your case this might help but really hard to say. 1st thing that comes to mind when hearing about coolant in in oil is head gasket since that's where the greatest pressure is. I guess you need to start somewhere and the water pump oil seal is a fairly easy job to do. So if it was me, I would probably start there. Good luck and get back to us when you get it figured out. I would be curious to know.
I have a 2000 bombardier ds650 I bought. The impeller is held on by a clip. I had to tap the clip out in order to remove the impeller. Thank you though.
Nice video! BRP hasn't solved this yet. I have a brand new 2017 Rene 1000 XMR, leaking coolant and oil. Haven't even reached the first service yet. I don't really want the punks at the stealership to do the job. Planning to do it myself.
Wow surprised it happened on a 2017. I've done over a dozen of these seals and all of them have been 2007s. As much as I hate taking it to the dealer. I would let them do it just in case there is something else wrong. But if you are planning on doing it yourself. It's not a hard job. Just a little time consuming. Hardest part is taking the old one out. Good luck and thanks for stopping in.
Outlaw Chop-shop i have the same issue with mine. I noticed fluid in the line after the first ride and always thought from then on that it was a overflow of some sort.
request response please..............great vid; i have a 500 outlander 07 and the impeller shaft for water pump isn't turning with cover off looking at the impeller...... what is prob you think and do you have to split case to replace impeller shaft assy. engine running hot after 5 mins run time every time you start it.
Thanks for the video!!! My 07 outty 800 is in desperate need of this. Just wondering did you pick it up the new seals from princess auto? That would be awesome Im there once a week lol. If not do you have the part numbers or can you help guide me in the wright direction of where i can pick these two seals up from?
You will have to get the seals from BRP. Not expensive. Water pump rotary seal is part #420650370 $26. Optional seals if you would like to change since it's all open are the oil seal #420650310 $13 and Gasket #420651190 $8
Hello my renegade 2007 loses the coolant by the expansion tank and already has new radiator and thermostat I will try to change the parts that indicates this video
Michael Krause the oil seal behind the main coolant one they removed would be the cause. The one he said not all guys change. If you don’t have oil mixing in then no need to change it.
+Frankie's Channel that's what I thought, I just seen that they were in a princess auto bag so I thought maybe they had a crossover part. Thanks for the reply!
hey just brought my 650 outlander to the dealer in town they say the water pump is sealing but the shaft has excessive play they wanna split the hole motor for a grand. Do you think this can be my problem. the bike looses coolent then i overheat
I don't understand if they say its sealing but you loose coolant. So it's not sealing. I would just change the oil and coolant seal first and see how it goes. If the problem persists then split the engine to replace complete shaft.
Removing the impeller is the easiest part. Just remove the 8 or 10mm nut. Can't remember what size it is. Then the impeller should pop right off. If it doesn't, might mean it's stuck. Just pull a little harder.
We could see an obvious coolant leak coming out of the weep hole. Doesn't sound like that's your problem. Are you overheating to cause the limp mod to come on? If yes then you mostly like have a dirty radiator. Very common problem on these bikes. Try cleaning the rad with air gun set it around 60 psi and get right in there. Then flush with water and see if that helps. Best way to make sure is to remove rad and clean on bench. You will be surprised to see what you find. Hope this helps. Good luck.
+Frankie's Channel Sadly no I live in Phoenix, Arizona so a bit too far :) But if trump wins elections I might be moving to Canada :) Toronto sound very good :)
At 1:47 drilling holes puts you at extreme risk of marring the metal where it mates with the black oil seal by drilling right into the edge of the oil seal/metal. It is better to file a large flathead screwdriver into a sharper edge and stick to tapping away with a hammer if you aren't getting it to bite the edge of the seal. If it is thin enough to bite into the edge of the seal, it will give with some taps. Any damage caused there is not as bad as what could easily happen if you drill. Besides, the proper way to do this is to remove the crankcase cover and press it from behind. Obviously a lot of us prefer this shortcut including myself esp for my own engine. BTW thanks for posting this because as of now there are still only about 2 videos on this job with this kind of engine!
I remember watching this video a long time ago . I'd like to say thank you for making it because I knew eventually we would have to change one.
My son did follow your video perfectly and he was very proud of himself for doing it we both like to say thank you.
OMG!! Haven't heard from you in ages. Thought maybe channel was getting to offensive for you. I know it can get out of hand at times with some of our riders. Well it's really good to hear from you again and happy the video helped out your son. Cheers buddy!!
Normally we just watch.
By the time I get a chance to say anything it's already said or has been said quite a few times over..
always enjoy.
Thanks men! I did it yesterday with your help and saved 200$ :)
Might be an older video of yours, But it still helped me today. My Outlander has a leaking water pump but it is 6 hours away at my property, so this really helped me get an idea of what I need to bring, and what I'm up against to get the job done! Thanks! #BuiltByBo
Great video guys! Took quite a bit of time to get it all out without damaging the housing or shaft! A baby chisel would have been the answer but had a small screwdriver that worked! Thanks again!
To anyone doing this be patient and watch the video a couple times and it'll work!
Thanks for posting this video as i am about to tackle this task.Just bought a 650 max and limp home mode appeared on display so i checked rad fluid level and it was low,but when i filled it just drained out the water pump relief tube..cheers from b.c.west coast
Nicely done fellas! Don't know why there aren't more vids on this.
Thanks, I agree. Not enough video's out there on this repair. I wish there was one on my first time doing this.
Best part of the video is the camera man and the machine
Mr. Rustaponi doesn't like your machine. He prefers Uncle Bob's Machine.
I followed your video and still had the leak. What I found is that I needed to seat the inner ring of the new part connected to the spring. Just flipping the socket around and tapping didn't do it. I needed to use a few washers and a M8x1.25 nut to seat the new part correctly. Other then that additional step your video was very helpful.
Yes that was the tricky part. Knowing how much to tap the center. First time I did it I just got lucky and pushed it in far enough that it didn't leak. Second time I didn't tap it far enough and it leaked. But was easy enough to remove the cover and tap it a little further. I guess this is the way we learn. Thanks for commenting and glad it worked out for you.
If you can add a text comment over the end of the video like "not showed: use 8Mx1.25 nut and washer to seat inner spring ring flush." Don't want the next guy to deal with DIY ignorance like I did. I messed with it for several weekends and lost two outings. Still saved a ton of money though. thanks
is there a tool to do this?
Shop manual also has the washer and nut instruction in it and the press tool. Very helpful video though for those of us not near a dealer to get the press tool.
Wish I read this comment first. Watched video, followed video to a T. Old one came out quite easy; new one went in straight and seemed to be flush and seated. Added coolant and started unit and it's almost as if the coolant drains straight out the weep tube. I will remove cover/impeller tomorrow and try putting the nut/washers on to seat further. Hopefully I didn't ruin seal by tapping in center spring portion. Excellent video though, thanks.
thanks for this video..
i have a 2007 outlander XT that coolant is escaping into the engine oil...
I will be doing this fix next weekend... the weep hole issue explains why the seals where out over time
thanks for the video, it was hard to find one. great video
Do u think this would work on a 2004 Outlander 400 ? Would really appreciate it
Otherwise its pull motor
Thank you for a very informative video.
If the weep hole leaks oil to the outside can you block the outside. Because it's not practical to remove the motor to drill and tap the weep hole
Thanks for your video on the water pump seal / oil seal replacement! Great video, easy to follow.I have one question though, did you do this seal change because the coolant was leaking into the oil? That is my issue at the moment and I wonder if this could solve it...Thanks , keep the videos coming.
Thanks Jason. We changed the seal because it was leaking through weep hole. In your case this might help but really hard to say. 1st thing that comes to mind when hearing about coolant in in oil is head gasket since that's where the greatest pressure is. I guess you need to start somewhere and the water pump oil seal is a fairly easy job to do. So if it was me, I would probably start there. Good luck and get back to us when you get it figured out. I would be curious to know.
So I changed mine! Big thanks for the video by the way!!! 👍👍 but why would my water pump and hose be hot? How do I fix it what did u guys do?
Thanks for the video Frank. Definetly a great video to have around
Excellent video! Legit repair.
I have a 2000 bombardier ds650 I bought. The impeller is held on by a clip. I had to tap the clip out in order to remove the impeller. Thank you though.
Thank you I’m tearing into one I found in the woods and it’s hard finding info for diy
Is there any certain way you had to tap it out?
@@hhstarwars If I can recall, you have to tap and pry out.
Nice video! BRP hasn't solved this yet. I have a brand new 2017 Rene 1000 XMR, leaking coolant and oil. Haven't even reached the first service yet. I don't really want the punks at the stealership to do the job. Planning to do it myself.
Wow surprised it happened on a 2017. I've done over a dozen of these seals and all of them have been 2007s. As much as I hate taking it to the dealer. I would let them do it just in case there is something else wrong. But if you are planning on doing it yourself. It's not a hard job. Just a little time consuming. Hardest part is taking the old one out. Good luck and thanks for stopping in.
Outlaw Chop-shop i have the same issue with mine. I noticed fluid in the line after the first ride and always thought from then on that it was a overflow of some sort.
Is this why the coolant leaks out of the weep hole because the seal is shot?
Will having this part fail cause the machine to over heat?
Thank you so much for making this video!
top bloke helped me heaps please post more suff thankyou
request response please..............great vid; i have a 500 outlander 07 and the impeller shaft for water pump isn't turning with cover off looking at the impeller...... what is prob you think and do you have to split case to replace impeller shaft assy. engine running hot after 5 mins run time every time you start it.
hunt4fish check the cut off of pressure switch
so why do you do this? and how often shout you do it?
Do you happen to know the part number for those seals??
Thanks for the video!!! My 07 outty 800 is in desperate need of this. Just wondering did you pick it up the new seals from princess auto? That would be awesome Im there once a week lol. If not do you have the part numbers or can you help guide me in the wright direction of where i can pick these two seals up from?
You will have to get the seals from BRP. Not expensive. Water pump rotary seal is part #420650370 $26. Optional seals if you would like to change since it's all open are the oil seal #420650310 $13 and Gasket #420651190 $8
Thank you sir! Parts are ordered!!
Hello my renegade 2007 loses the coolant by the expansion tank and already has new radiator and thermostat I will try to change the parts that indicates this video
Thank you brother!!
If these two seals are bad will it cause coolant to get into your engine oil and oil into your coolant/radiator?
On my bike the oil is leaking out of the front of the engine covet.
Thank you so much for this video.
The water from my raditoar is going to the engine oil what's wrong with it
Outsidermoco.com makes a billet impeller to replace the plastic one.
Will keep this video in my favorites for future reference.
Thanks.
I'm having an issue with oil getting in my coolant is this a likely culprit?
Michael Krause the oil seal behind the main coolant one they removed would be the cause. The one he said not all guys change. If you don’t have oil mixing in then no need to change it.
Hey are those Elka shocks on the quad? How do you like them.
Yes Elkas stage 1 with rebound. Much better than stock for sure, but sometimes I wish I went with at least stage 3. Just so dame expensive.
Hey, did you actually get those seals from Princess Auto? If so, do you have a part number for them?
No. You have to order from BRP.
+Frankie's Channel that's what I thought, I just seen that they were in a princess auto bag so I thought maybe they had a crossover part. Thanks for the reply!
hey just brought my 650 outlander to the dealer in town they say the water pump is sealing but the shaft has excessive play they wanna split the hole motor for a grand. Do you think this can be my problem. the bike looses coolent then i overheat
I don't understand if they say its sealing but you loose coolant. So it's not sealing. I would just change the oil and coolant seal first and see how it goes. If the problem persists then split the engine to replace complete shaft.
How did you loosen the impeller
Removing the impeller is the easiest part. Just remove the 8 or 10mm nut. Can't remember what size it is. Then the impeller should pop right off. If it doesn't, might mean it's stuck. Just pull a little harder.
Thanks for the video.
Your Welcome. Hope it helped.
how did you know this was the problem? my limp home light is coming on my bike and I noticed the fan is running all the time but no fluid leaking?/
We could see an obvious coolant leak coming out of the weep hole. Doesn't sound like that's your problem. Are you overheating to cause the limp mod to come on? If yes then you mostly like have a dirty radiator. Very common problem on these bikes. Try cleaning the rad with air gun set it around 60 psi and get right in there. Then flush with water and see if that helps. Best way to make sure is to remove rad and clean on bench. You will be surprised to see what you find. Hope this helps. Good luck.
thanks a ton your the only responder so far after 30 or so posts everywhere!
Have a great Memorial day!
would this be why my vent hole/tube is leaking oil and coolant?
Yes, it's very common.
Nice !! THANKS for shar'in !!
I've never has a problem with this seal... and I have 3500 harsh miles on my renegade, kind of suspicious to me...
how much do you charge for this job?
+Zbysio R I don't do this for a living. The most I ever get is maybe a free lunch. lol..
+Frankie's Channel Id buy you dinner and some brews :) but I guess I have to do it my self. :( nice video thanks
Your not local to the Toronto area are you?
+Frankie's Channel Sadly no I live in Phoenix, Arizona so a bit too far :) But if trump wins elections I might be moving to Canada :) Toronto sound very good :)
Zbigniew Rodowski. Help Rosie O'Donnell pack her crap. Leave with her
YOU NEED BETTER TOOLS...
@Affatato's
Hahahaha
Is this why the coolant leaks out of the weep hole because the seal is shot?