i think sealeo is another winner from the water pulse buff - powder snow, body slam spam, and and more stat product than walrein has always given sealeo some promise but was held back without a good second attack. i can definitely see it being a strong option in limited formats now also everything on the bottom of the move availability update list from mud shot diglett to eq gastrodon was regaining their legacy moves like bullet seed lileep. charged tm tax isnt great, but at least they arent exclusive to a small handful of players anymore
I'm not saying it will be top meta, but I think Hippowdon having access to a fast energy generating move will do it quite a bit of good. It already has good bulk and good charged moves, it really just needed a good fast move, having just fang moves before.
I feel like based on your video, at most, we're going to see more people using mantine and empoleon in the great league. Other than that, I don't see a lot of change in the meta. On the plus side, the season starts with my favorite limited cup: the Electric Cup! Which means that dedenne has a moment to shine right here!
idr the stats on Electric Cup, but iirc Dedenne struggles, yeah? 😅 I am excited for Mantine though. Did you know it has the same Atk Breakpoints as Noctowl (very similar base Atk stat)
@@SwagTips Yeah, unfort dedenne isn't the most common in the electric cup but I do see it from time to time. And I didn't know that about mantine; that's pretty cool!
Often when it shouldn’t be though … you need a two stage resistance difference for Brick Break to outdamage body slam. Although the debuff chance definitely makes it now more reasonable. Definitely makes it even more worthwhile Vs the steel types.
Earthquake was previously ultra legacy on Gastrodon. They’re giving it that attack officially now purely so it no longer has that distinction, not to actually buff it. Also duuude, it’s Whiscash, not wish cash. Like whiskers.
Hey swagman, do you think mantine will prefer aqua pulse over bubble beam or ice bean as i assume aerial ace is must have? Thanks for another great video!
Definitely over Bubble Beam. Ice Beam, AA, and WP will depend on the meta/role in your team. I can't see WP > AA unless you're on a Steel-type or aggressive Fire-type (for the most part). So it comes down to IB coverage mattering or not.
@SwagTips appreciate you breaking it down for me. Ive never had much success with mantine, i have a good one built maybe this season it will have some play. Have a great one Swagman see ya in the next one
Dewgong with WP stab might be interesting depending on its final stats v non stab drill run which is useful v lant & regi. Curious how popular empoleon will actually be. Feel like feralgator might be more popular as a quasi swampert with good neutralish fast move pressure.
Do you think that Palkia O is a winner with this update? With Palkia O already 98.1 rated in the ML, what do you think about the new ML meta with the aqua tail buff?
The fast moves introduced this season are so dissapointing. Even if psywave had bee a 3/3 one turn move, it wasnt put on any of the pokemon that might actually use it. Metal sound should have had 1 extra energy to be a mud shot clone or 2 extra damage to be a wing attack clone. And sand attack while half decent, is just so close to mud shot stats, it feels kind of meh. And like psywave didnt go to half the pokemon that may have had some more use for it.
There's no more Classic formats, you'd need to dump 330 odd XL candy to get it up to lvl 50 ... GGs on a great shadow hundo, definitely use it for them Primal Groudon raids ayy 👍
I'm not a good source for ML stuff, but we do have MLP (no C) this season. It doesn't look too bad into some of the meta stuff in that either. Better get walking I guess 😅
Gallade seems to be better Virizion on ultraleague and then empoleon is mostly better empoleon on ultra league (with steelwing it can even run blizzard and still win a lot)
As exciting as a lot of these changes are, I think the biggest winners are gonna be the most boring. Basically any user of Aqua Tail or Cross Chop will be rejoicing.
Shadow Bone is currently only learned by Alolan Marowak even in the main games. They just simply reverted the dumb Shadow Bone nerf that happened like 3 years ago when Alolan Marowak was actually meta.
A lot of PVP content creators have been hyping up this new update but I just don’t see how there’s much to celebrate besides like 4-5 things that Ryan pointed out.
Yeah. He has a window to shine in the next P!P tourny (mantine and dnair up, no Gatr or Emp allowed yet) but after that.....we'll see how much Whiscash hangs around.
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i think sealeo is another winner from the water pulse buff - powder snow, body slam spam, and and more stat product than walrein has always given sealeo some promise but was held back without a good second attack. i can definitely see it being a strong option in limited formats now
also everything on the bottom of the move availability update list from mud shot diglett to eq gastrodon was regaining their legacy moves like bullet seed lileep. charged tm tax isnt great, but at least they arent exclusive to a small handful of players anymore
I sure hope so, I have a rank 1 far boi and he only comes out to play during evolution cup
Good call on a Sealeo. With all the Body Spam, I forgot it even wants a 2nd move 💪💪
I'm like 99% sure Hakamo-o already had Brick Break?
it did
But did it have buffed Brick Break? D:
But now it has it again
You can now have both it's charge moves as brick break 👍
yep but they buffed it :D
Lanturn be like "hehe its been 3 seasons and nobody notices me"
Really happy to see Feraligatr finally have a time to shine! And Empoleon is back!
I love that the character limitation from Gatr in Gen 2 has persisted for over 2 decades.
I'm not saying it will be top meta, but I think Hippowdon having access to a fast energy generating move will do it quite a bit of good. It already has good bulk and good charged moves, it really just needed a good fast move, having just fang moves before.
I feel like based on your video, at most, we're going to see more people using mantine and empoleon in the great league. Other than that, I don't see a lot of change in the meta.
On the plus side, the season starts with my favorite limited cup: the Electric Cup! Which means that dedenne has a moment to shine right here!
I love Mantine ❤️
idr the stats on Electric Cup, but iirc Dedenne struggles, yeah? 😅 I am excited for Mantine though. Did you know it has the same Atk Breakpoints as Noctowl (very similar base Atk stat)
@@SwagTips Yeah, unfort dedenne isn't the most common in the electric cup but I do see it from time to time.
And I didn't know that about mantine; that's pretty cool!
I have 2 98 Shadow Hippos, and a lv50 Shiny. So they're gonna look forward to these changes, on top of Komo-O for Brick break, in the Master League.
Brick break Vigoroth is really common in a lot of the cups that allow normal types but not fighting.
With RS in the mix, it depends on the meta, but true.
Often when it shouldn’t be though … you need a two stage resistance difference for Brick Break to outdamage body slam.
Although the debuff chance definitely makes it now more reasonable.
Definitely makes it even more worthwhile
Vs the steel types.
Earthquake was previously ultra legacy on Gastrodon. They’re giving it that attack officially now purely so it no longer has that distinction, not to actually buff it.
Also duuude, it’s Whiscash, not wish cash. Like whiskers.
Hey swagman, do you think mantine will prefer aqua pulse over bubble beam or ice bean as i assume aerial ace is must have? Thanks for another great video!
Definitely over Bubble Beam. Ice Beam, AA, and WP will depend on the meta/role in your team. I can't see WP > AA unless you're on a Steel-type or aggressive Fire-type (for the most part). So it comes down to IB coverage mattering or not.
@SwagTips appreciate you breaking it down for me. Ive never had much success with mantine, i have a good one built maybe this season it will have some play. Have a great one Swagman see ya in the next one
Deep dive pls, ty and good job stating the req. attack breakpoints and min hp.
It's goodra time 💪💪
Dewgong with WP stab might be interesting depending on its final stats v non stab drill run which is useful v lant & regi. Curious how popular empoleon will actually be. Feel like feralgator might be more popular as a quasi swampert with good neutralish fast move pressure.
So excited for the new season! And then I watched this video. Fucking hell.
Season of the same thing + Goodra and S!Gatr?
Do you think that Palkia O is a winner with this update? With Palkia O already 98.1 rated in the ML, what do you think about the new ML meta with the aqua tail buff?
Dedanne needs a grass move to help tackle water types & ground types too
I missed the outro =/
Nice video, anyway
What happened with the outro?
Ok so to explain the mud shot thing at least is that they actually didn't learn these moves until SV for some reason, SV made mud shot a TM
Why did they make a mud shot tm? That's weird.
Gotta cover for Niantic? Keep the cross platform continuity, maybe.
@@SwagTips I couldn't understand what you said, I'm sorry if it looks like I'm defending Niantic (I am not)
Pokémon Sleep is showing Dedenne some love and adding it in March.
Think Grasshole will make a comeback vs the buffed Water Bois, or Razor Leaf still as sad of a state as Gale of Waterdeep is?
Are these generalizations/mon specific breakpoints applicable to the shadow versions as well? Or will shadows be better? 🤔
I'm not sure if I didn't make it clear, but Shadow Gatr and Empoleon are better. The stats I suggested for Empoleon are based on the Shadow.
@@SwagTips might’ve missed it! Thanks 😎
Are the new attacks available? Can I use the TM's to get them now?
Thanks 17:17 🙏🏻
The spooky snek is with you
Stopped playing for a while? Or gonna do a goodra deep dive?
The fast moves introduced this season are so dissapointing. Even if psywave had bee a 3/3 one turn move, it wasnt put on any of the pokemon that might actually use it. Metal sound should have had 1 extra energy to be a mud shot clone or 2 extra damage to be a wing attack clone. And sand attack while half decent, is just so close to mud shot stats, it feels kind of meh. And like psywave didnt go to half the pokemon that may have had some more use for it.
Surprised you haven’t said anything about Origin Palkia for master league.
When I make maybe a video a week and don't care about ML........😇
@@SwagTips makes sense. Not everyone can play master league
I just realized you're talking about Aqua Tail, my bad. But yeah, ML is rarely on the brain here
Sand attack on hippo should be good.. especially in master premiere
I have a shadow hundo ferraligator. Reckon it has any play in MLPC?
There's no more Classic formats, you'd need to dump 330 odd XL candy to get it up to lvl 50 ... GGs on a great shadow hundo, definitely use it for them Primal Groudon raids ayy 👍
I'm not a good source for ML stuff, but we do have MLP (no C) this season. It doesn't look too bad into some of the meta stuff in that either. Better get walking I guess 😅
My man, for the algo. STILL WAITING FOR GYM DEFENSE UPDATE😂
I had a great idea to revamp gym defense but I don't want to give it out for free
@@omarholder9036do you expect niantic to contact you😂
Malding about Giratina really set my schedule back😅
Unrelated Random question: Will a 13/14/14 Origin Palkia do the job?
Do the gator deep dive! Gator on gator maybe??
Apparently brick break is a poison fang clone 🤔
Serperior pvp iv deep dive pls 🙏
Niantic seems to be obsessed with buffing Water Types...
i played pogo for years and this was always my go to channel but i just cant do wokemon anymore. it was fun but good bye and thanks for all the fish.
Metang didnt get either new fast move! Thatsbthe one thing i asked for. After seeing the moves i thought for sure its getting one
Maybe something to do with the classic c day...maybe
@frederickdelius1106
Metal Sound & Psywave aren't in Metang's movepool for any of the main series games, hence why we won't see it get them in Go
Metal Claw buff when?
@@rickybobby38 oh i didnt know theres rules. Ok
@@frederickdelius1106
No worries ... Maybe Metang will get access to those moves in a later generation game & then we can get it the moves in Go 😁
Gallade seems to be better Virizion on ultraleague and then empoleon is mostly better empoleon on ultra league (with steelwing it can even run blizzard and still win a lot)
The speed does make Gallade a strong parallel to Virizion.
Big winner is Palkia Origin with aqua tail lol also lanturn lol
Oh, that's why people are like "Why didn't you mention Palkia" ML is never on the brain here.
@@SwagTips not gonna lie, even tho i have max out hundo meta ML mon like palkia O, ML league feels kinda like RPS game currently.
As exciting as a lot of these changes are, I think the biggest winners are gonna be the most boring. Basically any user of Aqua Tail or Cross Chop will be rejoicing.
Where's Ryan Swag when the world needs him? Hope you're doing ok.
Hakamo o already learns brick break
Yeah, but now he knows it as well
According to the move update, it also knows it now.
Ive been fighting lileeps with bullet seed for months
Maybe other pokemon will be getting shadow bone idk
Shadow Bone is currently only learned by Alolan Marowak even in the main games. They just simply reverted the dumb Shadow Bone nerf that happened like 3 years ago when Alolan Marowak was actually meta.
It's not fair to say Psywave didn't impact any of those pokemon. It made them worse.
(cries in Parabolic Charge)
Still no love for Dedenne lol
Edit: nvm you talk about it at the end
My son! 😭
Is there new metas
Swag, please make the Giratina video 😢
A lot of PVP content creators have been hyping up this new update but I just don’t see how there’s much to celebrate besides like 4-5 things that Ryan pointed out.
It's just for clickbait shenanigans. Any honest player realizes that this update has few good and a LOT of filler, or just outright goofy changes.
Feraligatr is all the have and they're going to ride that pony for all it's worth.
So will see what The gator has to offer like Skymary did am it end up not been that good! Lol I don’t think the gator is going to be that amazing!
Fuck Yea bro 15:20 damn you Niantic 😡
My son, why! 😭
Thanks for the quick review Ryan. Have a great start of the season!
Bloody dedenne. Can't catch a break 😂
Season of water types... and debuffs everywhere
Man, Dedene is always a loser in these updates huh? 😐
Yeah. He has a window to shine in the next P!P tourny (mantine and dnair up, no Gatr or Emp allowed yet) but after that.....we'll see how much Whiscash hangs around.