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In this muay thai video you'll see another part of muay boran training and show presented by Lannafighting Thai Boxing Camp.
You can see that muay boran looks much more complicated than kickboxing, boxing, karate or chinese kung fu.
It is a very beautiful martial art. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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I have always loved martial arts I started kickboxing at 3&1/2 years old and I have always kept it up. Kickboxing and muay thai is my favorite martial art of them all
"Muay Boran" (Ancient Boxing) is actually a modern term. Muay Boran is a catch all term for the main four different styles of Thai boxing:
- Muay Lopburi
- Muay Korat
- Muay Chaiya
- Muay Ta Sao & Phraya Phichai
- Muay Palasueksa
Muay Palasueksa is actually a relatively modern Muay style, concieved as a sport, a "Jeet Kune Do" of Muay styles, the most direct forerunner of modern Muay Thai.
The Four Muay Boran styles are more directly descended from real combat martial arts used in historical warfare.
Muay = boxing
Boran = ancient or Old
Muay Boran Is traditional Muay Thai
Actually, most of the old muay thai is used in the war. But evolved into the current version for sports
Thanks for explaining
I really love it
Muay Boran is really a thing Tony Jaa practice in his movies
Very good sir.. pls make these type of videos...
Cool take downs! Never seen those before
Thx
To see that in an mma match would be amazing
I love *Muay Thai* because it never pretended to be anything else than the absolute great sport it is and I respect every single Nak Muay as fellow warrior. However there may be some people who disrespect you and tell you lies. So here is some *publicly accessible information* about the origins and backgrounds of *Muay Chaiya, Muay Thasao, Muay Korat, Muay Lopburi, the Kru Muay Association* and *Thaiachira*
Please give a big *„Thank you!“* to Jay Jagger, Kasey Scott, John Telliper, Claudio Zanetti, Sam Jackson, Nathan Boiswert and Guy Prasertphong (links below). Their continued attempts to discredit #Pahuyuth have inspired some people around me to collect the following information for you. We hope this helps you to ask the right questions at the right addresses and to avoid spreading false information about so-called *Muay Boran Styles* in the future.
*IMPORTANT:* Please check the source below for further information before commenting and let them know if you have any evidence that could invalidate the following information.
👉🏻 *Muay Chaiya* The Muay from the city of Chaiya mainly refers to a certain Ajarn Ket Sriyapai. Ket Sriyapai was the son of a governor who was active in sports promotion and brought Muay Veti fighters (Muay Thai) from Chaiya to Bangkok to promote them there. Ajarn Khet never learned Muay Thai himself. The only reason why he is called "Ajarn" is that he has written and published some (fictional) stories about Muay Thai fighters. Ajarn Ket came from a high-ranking family and therefore never fought in a boxing ring. That would have been inappropriate for his standing. His actual profession was civil servant in the building industry. Later Muay Chaiya generations (for example Ket's school friend Tonglor Yalee) mixed normal Muay Thai techniques with Silat (Indonesia), Wushu (China) and Jiu Jitsu (Japan). For these reasons Muay Chaiya, and everything that comes from this direction, can neither be called an old nor a real Thai martial art.
👉🏻 *Muay Korat* General Amnat Pookrisuk is a senior military officer who in his spare time teaches his own interpretations of Muay Veti (Muay Thai) to foreigners. Throughout his military career he has never fought in a boxing ring. He was never qualified as a Muay Thai teacher (Krob Kru) and is only an admirer of this sport. His famous „water buffalo technique“ comes from the (supposedly fictional) works of Ajarn Ket Sriyapai (see above). Amnat likes to teach outside Thailand when he is on a business trip. Because he is a senior member of the military, he cannot be prosecuted. He knows many Thaiboxers through his participation in the betting business at Lumpini Stadium. He only learned Judo and Taekwondo from his military training. He mixed these styles with normal Muay Thai techniques and exports them abroad. Occasionally he claims to be able to do Ling Lom, but this is not true. Muay Korat was never in a Muay Thai fight and can neither be called an ancient nor a pure Thai martial art.
👉🏻 *Muay Thasao* The story of Muay Thasao is based on a Siamese swordsman named Phraya Pichai Daap Hak, who allegedly lived during the Thonburi period and was known to fight with two swords (daab song mue). The authenticity of his story, however, is highly controversial in professional circles, as there are many different versions of it and they all tell different things. However, none of these stories suggests that Phraya Pichai Daap Hak ever passed on his Muay Thai knowledge (if there was any) as a teacher or that he was qualified as a teacher (Krob Kru). There is also no evidence that he ever fought in a boxing ring - especially not with swords. There is no evidence of a local connection between Phraya Pichai Daap Hak and the village of Thasao. The fighters of Muay Thasao became known relatively recently through the (potentially fictional) stories of Ajarn Ket Sriyapai (see above). Not a single Muay Thasao fighter has ever been qualified (Krob Kru) in anything other than Muay Veti (Muay Thai). Although Muay Thasao is said to have existed for several centuries, there is still no working teaching concept.
👉🏻 *Muay Lopburi* The Muay from the city of Lopburi is just normal Muay Veti (Muay Thai) that tries to ride the Muay Boran wave. It has no special technical features and is definitely not Ling Lom. Muay Lopburi became known by the film "Ong Bak“. The naming of the techniques is strongly based on the Rammakian saga. The Rammakian is a stage-play that was translated into Thai language under the reign of King Rama II. (1809-1824) and thus became widespread. As a result, many of the so-called „ancient techniques" of Muay Lopburi cannot be older than 200 years. Members of the Muay Lopburi have not yet been able to answer the question of what their techniques were called before. that time.
👉🏻 *Kru Muay Association* The Kru Muay Association originated from the separation of the amateur Muay Thai from the professional Muay Thai. This division pursued the goal to have Muay Thai recognized as an Olympic discipline by the International Olympic Committee (IOC). A project that has not been successful until today. The officials of professional Muay Thai would like to have nothing to do with Kru Muay. For them this club is only a necessary evil. If you take a closer look, you will notice that all the so-called traditional teachers of the Kru Muay Thai Association have simply appointed each other as teachers and are now worshipped by wealthy foreigners once a year. The whole association is very political, but has less fighting competence than an average boxer in Rajadamnern Stadium or a Buakauw (who is a Cambodian and not a Thai by the way). Despite comprehensive state support, the Kru Muay Association still has no coherent teaching concept for traditional Muay Boran and Muay Thai is still not Olympic.
👉🏻 *Thaiachira* A spin-off of Muay Chaiya, which originated from a student sports group at Ramkhamhaeng University and therefore has nothing to do with old fighting styles, but pretends to make themselves important. The chairman of Thaiachira (Kru Lamp) has no qualification as a teacher (Krob Kru). He has also never fought in a boxing ring. His sword knowledge is based solely on student sports and stage fencing (Krabi Krabong), which is taught at the university. The rest comes from Muay Chaiya (see above).
*tl;dr* All major Muay Boran lineages are fake. All these Muay Boran styles above, that are praised as "traditional", are in fact derived from modern boxing Muay Veti (Muay Thai) or were made up. Muay Veti (awesome sport, no fake) remains as the only authentic Thai martial art. MUAI (part of Pahuyuth, no sport, no fake) remains as the only authentic predecessor of Muay Veti.
Source: pantip. com
*For Acknowledgments*
Jay Jagger on FB: www.facebook. com/jay.jagger.58
Kasey Scott on FB: www.facebook. com/kasey.scott.0852
John Telliper in FB: www.facebook. com/john.tellipier
Claudio Zanetti on FB: www.facebook. com/claudio.zanettini
Sam Jackson on FB: www.facebook. com/91sam
Nathan Boiswert on FB: www.facebook. com/smoothmoveskickboksen
Guy Prasertphong on FB: www.facebook. com/guy.prasertphong
Muay boran is legitimate and deserves respect like any other
Khmer Empire originally before
Thank you for the informative comment! This is great research put together!
@@abdullahibnrinibnpoat2059get lost khmer who lost every wars.
Im new to Muay Thai and hope to learn these moves in my class and not just mma Muay Thai
Very nice choreograph
Amo esse Stilo.
Wish I could learn this muaythai with such fighting position
I love it
A good one that's why IAM download it
I really want to learn muay thai can you make series of MT training for Beginner to master i will really appreciate that 💖
BTW i s subscribed to your channel
wow yaar its amezing
Awesome
Respects.
Mast bro outstanding amazing happy dil
Thank you so much bro.
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Do you ever have seminars in California or Nevada?
Nice sir
so is this like muay thai with aikido for the legs?
Awsome
Is the fighting shown in the video a mixture of muay boran and muay thai?
Super
Which style of muay Boran
I want to learn with you how could I.....
really surprise that takedowns also amplified in muay thai 😃😃😃
look like the fighting move in the movie ong bak
Hey can anyone please tell me where i can learn Muay boran in Thailand...plz
What's the name of the fit captain!?
And I like the video make a couple of it
Master Din.
Thx for watching
I also want to deepen my skill in muaythai,but I don't have the time
Thank you so much bro.
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Muay tay 👍👍✊️
This is not more complicated than other martial arts but different.
All of martial arts are complicated to understand in the finality and the application
Ps : I don t talk about foght sport but martial arts.
Great art...but camera guy is horrible .Anyway thanks for sharing
จังหวะ เเละไหวพริบบนเวที จะไม่เหลือ การจะนำทุกท่าจังหวะมาใช่ได้ การยังเเสดงได้ เพื่อเป็นการเเสดง เเละนัดซ้อมกันไว้ เพราะผมเคยเป็นนักมวย จึงรู้ว่า การดูเหลียม ชั้งเชิง จะชิงลงมือ รุก เเละรับ มันจะนำออก ในเสี้ยววินาที เพื่อเเก้ไขปัญหา เเละใช้อาวุธได้ จึงเหลือเเต่ จะใช้หมัด หรือเท้า เข่า หรือ ศอก ตามจังหวะเคลื่อนไหว ยกเว้นต่อยกับคนเชิงอ่อนกว่า คนเก่งกว่า จึงจะสามารถ นำท่าใดมาเล่น โชว์ได้
So what is the difference between muay boran vs Lethwei. , it seems to be kinda same ?
Good question actually. I hope I'll make comparing video
Well, I think all SEA main land people, they have fought each other for millennia, there must be some cross pollinations of fighting styles, it is actually hard to say who was the original.
@sensi please that is possible, but i think the more likely originator, if there ever was one, should be Khmer empire, they has the mural portrayed some kind of martial art match. Also, Khmer empire was the older one compare to Toungoo empire of Burmese.
@@sh3n3ng No evidence it's from Khmer.
@@sincerechristine508 it was just my personal speculation. what's your take?
that realy hurts
why the fuck is this video underrated?
saw 8 ads lined up and noped out, sorry fam
Wat bedoel jij nouw ? Mijn Engels schrijven .slecht slechter slechts .sorry maar als jij geen Nederlander bent dan weet ik het niet meer
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*Some facts about Muay Korat* General Amnat Pookrisuk is a senior military officer who in his spare time teaches his own interpretations of Muay Veti (Muay Thai) to foreigners. Throughout his military career he has never fought in a boxing ring. He was never qualified as a Muay Thai teacher (Krob Kru) and is only an admirer of this sport. His famous „water buffalo technique“ comes from the (supposedly fictional) stories of Ajarn Ket Sriyapai. Amnat likes to teach outside Thailand when he is on a business trip. Because he is a senior member of the military, he cannot be prosecuted. He knows many Thaiboxers through his participation in the betting business at Lumpini Stadium. He only learned Judo and Taekwondo from his military training. He mixed these styles with normal Muay Thai techniques and exports them abroad. Occasionally he claims to be able to do Ling Lom, but this is not true. Muay Korat was never in a Muay Thai fight and can neither be called an ancient nor a pure Thai martial art. Source: Pantip. com (dig deep and you’ll find what they don’t want you to know! 🤫)
when claimbodians see this,they will claim it again. hahaha
Yes hahaha
Claimbodians haha
Ohh I’m sure you copy us if khmer don’t help your country your maybe you just like jam 😇👍
@@mariosmggaming7172 serious? How did your country help my country? When you r country still slave worker in my country more than 2M
MarioSMG Gaming please tell me where is muay khmer yeah i know you have but not famous and ancient like muay thai go to the killing rice field !
I have backheel pain,so,how can I practice and learn MuayThai?please help me.Thanks.
I have problem with knee but still practice.
Just find optimum tempo and difficulty of training. And be very careful - listen your body.
This is KunKhmer, Bokator Khmer and Yuthakromkhom
Get lost, King of claim country.
A mix
Ong back fight
MuayThai Boran
Dave leduc be like, "we invented that"
Show business. Because not even Buakaw nor Saenchai has been able to deliver any of those fancy moves. There is the conceptual arts version of Muay & there is real life 😎👌
buakaw use muaythai but in this is muayboran.boran in thai is mean old or crassic.real muay thai dont use glove but use rope
@@nutthanjt8211 Muay Boran is the umbrella term for martial arts originating from Thailand, Muay Thai is part of Muay Boran.
Do you know Thai boxing develop form this art for safety sport? This is Thailand ancient boxing for killing not for sport.
If you facing street fight or free fight with buakaw , not on the ring. You will see the true real world of muay thai
Because they only fight world class fighters
ทำไมเราไม่จัดแข่งมวยโบราณครับ เพื่ออนุรักษ์ ท่าต่างไปไว้
Where in Thailand can I study muay boran. For a month??
I think you can contact this Muay Chaya school on FB. Pedro Solana is the manager. th-cam.com/video/Y9S6lw5pBGQ/w-d-xo.html and facebook.com/PedroSolanaV and website pedrosolana.com/the-school/
นี่เเค่ซ้อมนะครับซึ่งเเตกต่างจากโบกาตอร์มาก
Good fighters,only techniek,could better,just my look at it,respect anyway
Ari Ari What I see are two young and very athletic men risking harm in a strong and fast demo of a brutal fight method. Stronger and faster always wins, unless we fall into a trap or get old and must rely solely on technique.
@@sambsialia right maybe my English to bad , i60+ look at SAENCHAI Netherlands thats.what i try to say what you said,Netherlands ? makes. it easy for me this old Phone eror
@@sambsialia Nederlander ? I am try to wright,what you dit butthis Phone
@@sambsialia hard as nails fast as Afghanistan dogs tough as oh my Engels keep in touch please 60 +
@@sambsialia ik ben 60 + 20 jaar getraind. Nooit tussen de touwtjes gestaan, maar ik weet echt wel waar ik het over heb. Toen 183 cm 67 kg met alle respect maar je hoeft mijn niks meer te leren Ramon Dekkers 20 km van mijn af geboren RIP ,
How does boxkator. Fit in ?
Don't know yet.
Hope next time I'll make a Video about It.
😂
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Boxing is better
Siam Reap, Cambodia Bokator is the original without a doubt Khmer Empire
Thai is original not clambodia
@Ck Leftovers still Siam Reap, Cambodia
@Ck Leftovers facts the truth speak for it itself til than I don't waste time with a person that doesn't excepted truth of knowledge again Siam Reap, Cambodia we destroy ya'll with Bokator style and Thai used our writing script you want more truth shrimp brain. You speak like a child that can't face the truth
ไอ้เขมรกาก
เตรียมตัวจะรบกันอีกแล้วสิพวกมึง
เดี๋ยวก็ฆ่าล้างเผ่ากันอีกนะพวกมึง
พวกขี้โกง อะไๆก็อ้างว่าสยามก๊อปปี้
พวกอื่นเขาจะไม่มีปัญญาเหมือนพวกมึงเลยหรือวะ
So why your khmer martial art still here noone know about bokator when muay thai go world class
This is all staged. Good for show, but not for real fighting. Search for #Pahuyuth and check their Muay Boran videos. They also have real swords!
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No shit Sherlock, it literally said training in the title so what did you expect
Who said this technique is only for show..that is not for show..this one can be use in real fight with enemies
No
Yes
Copy from Cambodia
claim
Hahahaha
Shit claim again.. Why dont you focus on your Fake Bokator martial art ? LOL
What did you do to prove that he was imitating you? Muay Thai is unique and was invented by an ancient Thai soldier who has never copied anyone but Cambodia. Khmer no one imitates If you say that this kind of Thai copy, you dare to prove your skill. Which is a Khmer martial art that competes with the martial art of Muay Thai for the world to know the truth or do not know who and who copied it?
Hey, your Khmer manuscript is not like Muay Thai at all because it has nothing to do with Muay Thai.👇th-cam.com/video/GSai3-JPcvQ/w-d-xo.html
Thailand copy bokator Cambodia
How bokato still here and noone know about it? When muay thai go world class?
Big lie.
claim
Stop the shit. Bokator is a fake martial art start from 2003 by Copying Thai movie Tom Yam Goong ( Cambodian thought it is Muay THai but actually it is just for a movie )
Thai people are able to invent their own skills and abilities until they develop themselves well all the time. He's talented enough and he probably doesn't care about worthless things like Khmer because Thai things are of good quality, but what does Khmer do to get the world recognized? If true, let's prove it to Thailand and the world. Don't just claim and steal other people's stuff for yourself. Aren't you ashamed of the whole world?