Monza Oval Circuit in 1957 - onboard view
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This is a video of the 1957 Monza Oval circuit - not used anymore! Originally, the video had no sound so I used some jazz.
Music: indigo jam unit "Roots"
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Came here to see vintage Monza footage, was blown away by the bass player.
Awesome footage, too.
Thanks. Cheers!
yes and piano as well
I tried to watch the video but the bass player kept distracting me with his masterful playing
One of the best comments in TH-cam!
Same thing happened to me
Katsuhiko Sasai playing double bass.
3 years later and this is still some groovy bass
Haha, also felt the beat #)
Interesting to see footage of the oval when it was just 2 years old (There was another oval before the war, but the present one was built in 1955). I recentely visited the Monza Oval and filmed also a kind of onboard, but then with a bicycle :)
Thanks. I didn´t know there was another oval there.
I have been there to a few years back. Me and my father went there to visit the track and we could just walk on the oval part and the part where the races are hold on these days. Its a real shame that the state of the oval track was pretty bad when I visited. Trees fallen over the track, grass growing trough and bad maintenance... such a shame...
Not surprised your here lol
douma2001 I have heard that since then the owners of the track had a clean up crew semi restore it and have re paved most of the track to host the Monza rally, with the babking
Congrats, you earned a sub!
Love the track you used. So good. Speaking of tracks, it's amazing how slow they were going. By the mid 60s, race cars were completely transformed. And then they got seriously fast.
Thanks. Cheers!
That's a sport-racer Bentley from the 1920's-early 1930's. The F1 cars in 1957 were much, much faster, and just about to go rear-engined. They were seriously fast even then.
@@maxrudder6091 Mm. When the Indy racers went to Monza for the 500-mile race that year, the pole time was just over 177mph. It wasn't until Peter Revson in 1971 that they were lapping faster on the flatter, tighter Indy track.
Meanwhile in Germany in the mid-30s, cars from Mercedes and Auto Union were exceeding 400 Km/h.
@@NevermindXY Uh, no, they weren't. Not on a track, nor on the salt flats in Utah. But nice try.
The music works great with the video! :)
Thanks!
bass player kicks ass
Indeed! You have to watch the video twice! LOL!
Also gotta give that pianist some credit too
Fantastic peace of history i search so long for a good video of the old Monza Oval thank you very much
Thanks!
I also came here to watch vintage Monza Oval footage and was blown away by the post-bop modal piano trio.
Straight ahead hard driving jazz! Perfect for Monza!
So many people enjoying the music! LOL!
Perfect soundtrack for this. Thank you!
Thanks! Cheers!
Thank you! I live in Monza and I was looking for videos of the oval circuit. yours is of excellent quality.
Awesome, thank you! Cheers from Portugal!
Jazz for tracks!!! So cool, video and music
It´s great! Cheers!
the music is beautiful.
Thanks. Cheers!
Their fashion is timeless, gotta love 50's.
Great times and true heroes racing back then!
Wow, the soundTRACK was almost better than the raceTRACK... :D Great footage, but this music is comparable!
Very cool, thank you for sharing this!
Cheers!
Bass playing here is FIRE 🔥
YES!
indeed, top class the bass player
In those days the cars were built for the circuits and not the backwards way round like now. Yes, safety was very poor but could have been improved to keep the classic old circuits going. Great footage - thanks.
Yes, you are right
Ó, TUGA; muito bom teu trabalho em resgatar e divulgar estes vídeos antigos. Parabéns
Obrigado. Vem aí mais!
the Monza Oval is a snack, but that Jazz music in the background is the whole buffet.
Thanks. Cheers!
1:08 ….fuel up while smoking a cigarette 20 centimeters from the gas🥶
Those were the times... LOL!
Completely Monza racing video
And people applause the backing sound of the video
Both are truly amazing!!!
Superb video.
Thanks a lot! Cheers!
Unbelievable vid!
Thanks. Cheers!
I'm not sure which is better, the footage or the music 😉
What kind of Jazz is that?
Cheers! Indigo Jam Unit is a Japanese jazz band formed in Osaka, Japan in 2005
Fantastic, thank you :)
great film footage................ i'm wondering what kind of speed were the running ? one other question...........in the movie "Gran prix" how did they incorporate the high banking as part of the road course ?
Thanks. Honestly, can´t answer any of your questions... I don´t know...
They’d run the front stretch twice in one lap. There were cones separating it down the middle.
You’d exit parabolica and you’d be on the right side of the front stretch and you’d head onto turn 1 of the oval.
When you came off turn 4 of the oval you’d be on the left side of the oval and you’d head down to curve grande to start the road course.
www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/features/2015/9/high-risk--high-interest---a-brief-history-of-italian-banking/_jcr_content/featureContent/manual_gallery/image1.img.640.medium.jpg/1441370678767.jpg
I believe that in 1957, the Monza oval was used for an event called "Race Of Two Worlds", in which Indianapolis-type cars raced against Formula 1 cars.
Since Indy cars could only turn left, both the Indy cars and F1 cars ran counter-clockwise.
Supposedly, the fastest F1 car finished behind all of the Indianapolis-type cars that finished the race.
True, yes. There is a film bout that on YT.
The average speed was amazing...
1) Sarebbe bello modificare nuovamente il circuito di Monza . 2) Tenendo buono il rettilineo di partenza , al posto del curvone Alboreto e delle due curve Lesmo , si potrebbero fare due curve tipo pista di Indianapolis , più due punti di quasi stop ad una certa distanza dall'uscita dai due curvoni percorsi ad alta velocità , come ad esempio in Canada . 3) Mi domando : come dovrebbe essere la forma dei curvoni ad alta velocità ? Come Indianapolis o come la vecchia Monza , cioè una semicirconferenza ? Altrimenti come ? Quale forma potrebbe essere spettacolare e tecnicamente impegnativa da percorrere ?
Nel mio video "Storia di Monza" riporto troppi problemi locali perché ciò sia possibile. Solo nei sogni...
Nice jazz . That Bentley must have already been 30 years old when it was filmed .
I was hoping to see the modernistic towers above the banking as scene in the movie "Grand Prix." For some reason they've always fascinated me. Wish we could've heard the Bentley's engine!
The original footage did not have any sound so no Bentley sound... It´s a pity indeed.
Nice video, congratulations. Can anybody tell me how was the track when the drivers ran on the oval? Did the drivers only ran on the oval or did they ran on other stretches of the track (apart from, of course, the starting and arrival straight) where the F1 cars still run today?
Usually one or the other - not both at the same time. Here´s a great exception: th-cam.com/video/SRCLKmQBlvc/w-d-xo.html
I realize this is coming in late, but the full race course with the oval was used in the Sports Car International Championship of Makes in the 1960s; with the race length being 1000 km; or 100 laps. Imagine driving a Porsche 908 or a Ford GT 40 for 1000 km with being on that banking for 100 laps; of course, the race had a two-driver tandem.
The oval was no longer used for the sports car races in the 1970s.
....... SUPER SUPER VIDEO !!!!!!
Thanks! Cheers!
.... OK !!!! Grazie
Mio link con foto a Monza !!!
www.nikonclub.it/gallery/index.php?module=listAlbums:137790&method=main&filters:user_filter=137790
One thing to create an interplay of American and European drivers would be a few good ovals in Europe based on a sedan series.
Great to see some NASCAR guys compete with you in one of your touring car series on 2 or 3 ovals.
A jazz boogie!
Is that a Bently they're driving the track in?
I think so.
Why were they running the races clockwise on the oval ?
Good question.I never saw Monza backwards...
I would LOVE to see video(s) of the 1957-58 "Race of Two Worlds." Indianapolis 500 Watson and Kurtis Kraft Roadsters take on the Monza Oval for the only two races that were ever run there. Does anyone know of their existence, or if there are any available on TH-cam?
Tim, that´s easy! Just search for it! 1957 race: th-cam.com/video/SRCLKmQBlvc/w-d-xo.html
Ah the days when race drivers wore tweed jackets and flat caps, even at Monza.
Ah, now i get it why the Parabolica curve is parabolic nowadays. After the closure of the oval, the last turn had to open up to meet the outer straight.
Both went into the straight. You could use both tracks or only one of them.
I was looking for a video of an old Formula 1 in-car lap. It's too bad they only recorded part of the lap in this video.
Hi. My friend this is what I have... I guess you are forgetting how rare footage like this is and that the technology that existed back then to do something like this. This was recorded in a small film camera that not work on batteries - it does have a string that you have to wind and it gives you about 30 sec of recording time. It would be impossible to record a full lap in one take! Cheers!
Deveria também ativar o circuito antigo...
Hoje é apenas uma peça de museu!
imagining old Monza being used for the 2022 grand prix
If they had the 1922 configuration it would be a nice track for that race!
at around 0:51 guessing that section of track that was gated off to the left, was probably alot more level than the actual Oval section that they were using on the right side??? at right about 1 minute, that had to be one of the largest tire pressure gagues I have ever seen, I mean that dial wqas Huge...LOL
That is the part of the circuito stradale, with the anello ad alta velocità (or catino) the track was 10 Km long.
Why is everything boring now?
I think they call it safety! They only build boring tracks nowadays with no danger whatsoever! Cheers!
Is earlier for shure, may be 1937
This banking was built in 1955 to replace the 1922 banking. Why couldn't they have built the banking out of tarmac instead of concrete? Ovals in the US were already doing that...
How do you find these clips?
I watch lots of old fils and videos!
ourafilmes.com Thank you for answering. That's a nice hobby! How you have access to this kind of content? In particular where did you get this video?
Man, I can´t remember. It was years ago!
Both are unforgiving, the track and the music.
Great comment!
@@ourafilmes I enjoyed both the film and the music. Thank you! 👍🏻
How did you FIND THIS
Can´t remember... I watch many old videos!
Impressive banking.
Yes! It´s a pity they don´t use it anymore!
Driving this in Assetto Corsa with R8 LMS xD
It's fun...
Looks bumpy and rough in spots even after a couple years. ???
That was its problem... And why it was only used for some years...
1:40 Actual onboard footage.
With a short video like this I think that was not necessary at all but hey...it´s just me!
Muito top mano
Obrigado!
Wasn't there another high speed oval in Germany or something?
I guess you refer to the AVUS track.
@@ourafilmes Yes, that's it.
The piano!!!
Amazing musicians!
Monza leggend
Where do you live???
Timothy
Kd o ronco do motor?
Isto foi registado em filme... não tem som original...
im going to assetto corsa right now
ikr
Imagine if they'd use jazz in the current F1 videos instead of the standard, Skrellix-y shite. I'd watch it even more religiously.
Great words there mate! Agreed!
Imagine to bring from the future a Formula 1 car to this road... Wooow! 😛
That would be killer!!!
Does someone know how fast they where back in those days? Because this looks veeeeeeeery slow. Like todays road cars have more power
We call it evolution my friend. This was a road car!
Un vero peccato quel grave errore progettuale consistito nel non avere previsto i plinti dei pilasti portanti inseriti in una trave continua, che ha portato ad avere assestamenti differenziali sui pilastri portanti delle curve sopraelevate con il relativo inutilizzo di tale pista dopo pochi anni a causa delle conseguenti discontinuità dell'impalcato strutturale della pista medesima!
È tutto vero ma all'epoca era il migliore che c'era. Potrei sbagliarmi e potrebbero esserci storie che non conosco. Sinceramente dubito che fosse ancora in uso, soprattutto senza chicane come in Monthlery di questi tempi... In Europa, tutti gli ovali originali non sono più in uso come ovali... e sono musei...
@@ourafilmes Intanto mi complimento per il tuo canale con radice in Portogallo, molto interessante ed al quale mi iscrissi 2 settimane fa, all'epoca della sua scoperta da parte mia. Per quanto riguarda il circuito in esame ricordo che già nel 1966 in occasione della realizzazione del film Grand Prix, girai per oltre 200 km su quella pista, quale pilota controfigura degli attori e già a quell'epoca i sobbalzi alle alte velocità impressi da quanto sopra descritto, erano notevoli, tant'è che la sopraelevata fu poi abbandonata definitivamente. Un vero peccato poiché ancora oggi avrebbe potuto essere una pista per collaudi o per altre manifestazioni. Quanto tu affermi in ordine agli altri circuiti è vero e le cause degli abbandoni ebbero varie motivazioni, le più disparate. Complimenti ancora ed a presto risentirci. Ciao Fabrizio
y Music
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Onboard starts at 1:40, your welcome.
Joe Jones My welcome?
F1: *is too scared too race on the banking
NASCAR: Let us show you how it's done.
Safety!
nascar cars are designed to race on ovals, F1 cars are very fast ND designed for cornering, it would be unsafe
Smoking a cigarette whilst refueling...what could possibly go wrong...?
Different times mate! After WW2, I guess death was just another friend... Cheers!
Nice how they are having a cigarette while refilling the car....
Signs of the times...
The patchwork paving is a sham to have drivers going so fast. I wouldn't want to drive my Mazda van on the rough pavement. There's a 1966 video of Monza oval that shows the difference in the cars & the track (much better) here:
th-cam.com/video/8LMwgXijWUU/w-d-xo.html
That footage you linked is from a movie and it was made 10 years after this.
As a motorcyclist would love to see how Formula 1 would deal with this kind of circuit layout…of course they couldn’t …
It would be fun!
this track make me the food look tasty
Pokemon ash pikachu Rider Nagano
WHAT?!?!?
Bloody music
I can not please everyone mate!
@@ourafilmes just like to hear the engine more but it’s a great vid
@@Madgitty2 shot on 8mm film - no sound!
@@ourafilmes doh, sorry
@@Madgitty2 No problem, Happens to many of us... LOL!