It doesn't matter the aluminum that's made of. Should be light that's the reason for them using aluminum. Cheap and light. The only thing that matters is to have perfect parallel faces reported to the center axle Porous grain doesn't do anything wrong.
I have run wheel spacers on everything from my 4x4s to my street cars and even on a drag car, when installed and torqued properly they are perfectly safe...
I put 1 1/2 inch wheel spacers on my jeep in the front and back (made in America of course) And the spacers ended making my front end shake like I had death wobble. Took it in dreading all my links needed replaced. They couldn't figure out what it was the whole time. They popped off the spacers and drove it down the road and it drove fine ever since. The spacers were not damaged in any way or form. Just some how caused my front end to shake like crazy.
Hub-centric is the next really important term/type after made in the USA and warranty. Hub-centric wheel spacers keep the weight off the wheel lugs and on the hub where it is carrying the weight as it should. Thread locker is another one for those leaving the spacers on, red is intended as a more permeant install but blue could be used and still allow the spacer to be removed. Some people use it some don't, not required but worth considering.
Robert, about that sort of thing, ya think they would make some sort of locking bolt system, or something, sort of like a locking washer system, why not, my thinking is this., if people are going to be concerned about vibration and it loosing, then that heavy metal could be made with some sort of locking bolt, instead of locking washers, or both? just a thought?
I bought hub centric wheel spacers on eBay. I used red Loctite on the studs to the hub. Only issue was stripping a short lug nut before heating the other ones when I put bigger brakes on. I only had 1 inch spacers and had to cut the factory wheel studs down as well.
YOU ARE THE MAN DUDE TANK YOU SO MUCH THIS IS ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW EVERYONE SAYS OH IT WILL VIBRATE OVER TIME NOT A YEAR ROUNF THING , not if you watch this guys vid who simply tells you to just keep re torking to factory spect
What brand or were they ebay ones? I just bought a set for the rear of my 2004 mustang gt and got them on ebay for 30 bucks shipped. They are brand name Max Auto and are made of 6061 cnc aluminum and have 10.9 hardened steel studs. They have a 1 year warranty...we'll see?
Watched the whole video and not once did you mention anything about "hub-centric spacers" being the better buy. Nothing wrong with ebay spacers as you said, I run 1.5" hub-centric wheel spacers Also an important note is to always use LOCTITE.....Always....
Yes although those 2" spacers will put a hurting on your bearings... 1.5" is usually the max people recommend. Safety wise you'll be fine just use a tiny bit of removable loctite or just check the torque every once and a while but not after loctiting them. They should be fine if you use loctite (just put them on, torque them down once and forget about them), but they can be a botch to get off. Snapped 2 sockets trying to remove mine after a year both snap on. Better then losing a wheel down the highway :p
Whilst having to rectify a bodged 3" body lift done by a previous owner and lowering the body back down to the chassis I notice stress cracks in the black alloy wheel spacers exactly like the ones in your video. After spraying some welders crack detector on them these cracks turned out to be even worse than I thought. I have since removed all the wheel spacers and fitted standard wheels back on to the vehicle. In future I will not be buying a pick up truck which has had a vehicle lift. There are some horrific videos on you tube of wheels falling off.
alright people listen up. if you want to know the truth about wheel spacers here it is. wheel spacers cause premature wear on ball joints and wheel bearings. why? because they are moving the wheel farther out which puts more stress on them. that is a fact. if your okay with that use them if not dont
You are also using hub centric spacers which put the pressure in the ring in the middle of the hub. They are much stronger and better aligned than non-hub centric versions.
What would happen if you were to put wheel spacer after wheel spacer under the same wheel? Like having 2 in the same wheel? I'd like the tires to be wider than just one spacer offers
MOTOWENS that's crazy brother just save up for different offset wheels most people who are knowledgeable on the subject do not recommend more than 1.5" on wheel adapters like tundra guy said do not recommend and I don't think anyone has done that way too much strain on bearings after certain point causing premature wear and failure, not to mention potential safety risk to yourself and others on the road.
The amount of threads engaged is used in calculations for holding force required. So, if you use the spacers that do not bolt on, and you are grabbing less threads on the original studs, you risk failure.
I'm use 2" spacer front and rear! Made of 7075 aluminium. No problem for me! Use them all year long and they have only need one time of reset as they was new. Now the day they are tight and fit every time I'm shit the tires. So good quality is worth it in the end.
I was trying to find such a video regarding the wheel spacers, thank you so much i was about to buy a cheap one, i guess i will go for H&R brand since its the best as i heard.. Nice video!
Robert Presti Jr Its not just about his safety, what if the car jack fails, he doesnt have a wheel on nor does he have an extra support, shits not gunna be pretty.
Good point I've had a friend that put cheap spacers on his f150 and had his passenger side wheel fall off while driving in town and had to replace the the hub then he again used another set of cheap spacers and had the other front wheel fall off at 60 mph coming off a curved overpass needless to say lesson learned and that that you should do a lot of research on a set of spacers if that's something you're looking into.
Please can I install wheel spacers on my nissan xterra 2004 without lifting it... Just want to upgrade the tires to bigger size.. And what is the idea wheel spacer to buy... Thank you .
Amateur question, but how do you tighten it to exactly the amount of torque fit for the lugs? Is there like a guage? I just do it as tight as possible.m
+Jb C You should really invest in a torque wrench. Over tightening wheel spacer is a sure way to crack them. Heck, even aluminum wheels can crack if you over tighten them too much...
@Tundra Guy, you forgot to mention another reason why spacers shouldn't be used. It's for the simple fact that wheels that stick out a little farther out than factory specs will get mud and all that other crap on the sides of your car a little more, at least on lighter colored vehicles. So why do it? Don't. =(
Spacers that are not bolted on are perfectly safe if they are installed correctly. If the wheel is a bolt-on, you need longer bolts. If the hubs have studs and you install the wheel using nuts, you need to disassemble the hub and install longer studs. On top of that, they need to be hubcentric. Also, never use aluminium spacers without steel inserts.
I have snow tires on them steel wheels, so only need the spacers for them. I have aftermarket wheels for the summer that have 1.5" of offset so they sit even with the fender wells...
Yes, they are safe. I've used them in rally cars without issues. All you need are trusted wheel studs. I used to make those out of locomotive engine pushrod or buy OEM stuff.
As a machinist these wheel spacers are fine as they're lug centric. Don't use them if you're carrying over 10,000 lbs plus the vehicle's weight. Hubcentric adapters are the only option carrying heavy loads. These ones are more suited for what he's doing.
Will D lug nut torque is not specified by the weight of the vehicle. it is determined by the size and metal grade of the bolt it is being attached to. that being said the manufacturer determines the size and quantity needed for that vehicle. for instance 1/2 ton has 5 or 6 lugs where as 3/4 ton has 8. they are both same lug bolt and torque just different quantity for weight variances
there is a hidden problem using the wheel spacer buyer beware. there is stress on the front sway bar. the better look doesn't give me a good reason just to make your wheels stick out. just imagine when you try to bend a flex rod. the wider the rod, the more energy require also, energy distribution becomes less and the tire will wear faster. after hundred miles with the spacer on the front wheels and no spacer on the rear wheels, you will see the difference on the tires wear pattern. hundred dollars will get you more problems on pinion ball joints and a costly new set of tires.
I could not agree more. I have had to spend hours rectifying a bodged 3" body lift done by a previous owner and get rid of the oversized wheels. The spacers had stress cracks and the power steering box was also badly damaged and had to be replaced. Not to mention a lot of damage caused else where by this bodged up vehicle lift.
Lol. I saw a video on TH-cam where someone said wheel spacers where bad and unsafe. But he wanted to put jeep Cherokee rims on a renegade. So instead of spacers or buying new rim. He began to grind down part of the brake caliper. Now that is unsafe. I'd would have gotten wheel spacer or a proper fitted rim.
I had a rear right wheel come off of my 73 pontiac lemans in 1977. Was going around left hand turn. Had a bad accident. Totaled my Lemans and even after hours and hours of searching. Never found my wheel and tire. These were American Steel. Anyway, Yeah, Be careful. Do it right or not at all. Crager SS's was wha I had on that Pontiac.
The Honda wheel spacer looks like it's a cheap casting. While the black spacer is most likely a billet aluminum spacer. Remember this, aluminum will crack and break apart with no warning. no matter if it's cast or billet aluminum, (billet aluminum being much stronger) Their is a reason as to why no auto manufacture uses aluminum on the wheel hub assembly!
Yeah that wall is wayyy the thin and some cheap material. Couldn’t agree more with this guy. It’s your wheel to your vehicle we’re talking about here lol it’s pretty important
I am not going to say as to if they are safe, but I believe they cause premature wear to steering components and bearings. think of it like a pry bar, a longer bar means more tension to whatever is being pried on. now I don't know how how roads are in other areas but my roads eat undercarriage for breakfast, and they don't need help!
Bad advice, It is about how a wheel spacer is build, in the example the chinees one similair can also be build in the US or other country. It is about the quality of the wheel spacer how it is constructed NOT WHERE IT COMES FROM and the warranty they will give. So the last words are correct.
Cast aluminum on the eBay set. USA pricy one were milled from one chunk of aluminum. Like the guy said, buy the made in the us one. It's your life on the line here wanna play?
hmmm, not sure there... depends on the truck and trailer i guess. But i see your username is duramax2015 so not sure I would run theses on that diesel with all that torque but check with other diesel guys there. But i would recommend steel spacers and only hub centric...
I just installed my new 2 inch black ones by bora on my 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 today. They are made of aluminum just as the silver looking ones are. A word to those ordering from Bora, they make the spacers to order when you order. Mine took many weeks but I am thrilled with the quality.
Mr. Bluegrass They get the tires to stick out a little more. If some correct the stance of the truck looks very nice. You cant go cheap with this stuff tho!
If you want your tires to stick out from the fender flares a little bit, why not just buy a larger set of tires & wheels when it's time for new tires? I do some driving on dirt roads and I sure don't need rocks being thrown up into the side of my truck and chipping up the paint. I want my tires under the fender flares where they belong.
I am sure there are some quality spacers made in other countries. Just do your research and make sure they have a lifetime warranty. And AVOID the spacers sold on ebay that are made in china!
Chase, yes for sure, that area right there you think would be and should be a tad thinker. it sure seemed this for a stress area, which that is. and when that goes, the crack is almost what would be expected, I mean to say, at at least 70lbs of torque should be fine for about any car or SUV with at least 6 lugs or so. not sure i would use loctite though. and about that 100LBS, that seems high for almost any car.
I run 2" on a lmm crew cab dually. install them correct. re torque inner after 1000 miles and then re torque outer 1000 miles later and be done. I tow 20k very often. buy American and keep it together.
Thank you so much for your comment. I have a 2010 Silverado and I wanted 2" spacers but I hadn't seen anything from somebody who towed, as I tow 15-20k on a regular basis
Just make sure it's a good quality steel spacer with the lip around the center for your rim to center itself on. (Hubcentric) . When you look at a spacer and it's steel and you think this thing is massive and weighs easy 10 lbs each. Run them. I'll look to find my paperwork on my brand. I trust mine fully.
I don't like them, regardless of who made them or where they are made. I've witnessed some pretty bad safety related failures with these things. Do it the right way, it's not worth your,or anyone else's safety
not to sound like an ass hole but just so you know why. with 5 lugs at 100lb that's 500 pounds pulling on the rotor. witch is fine until you add the heat from heavy braking.
Dont do it unless the manufacturer is okay with it. Or better still dont use the damn things at all. Get a wider vehicle. As soon as you alter the dimensions of a wheel assembly like that you are putting a lot more strain on the bearings, axles etc. Do you really want a spacer failure at highway speeds or round a fast corner ? Think about that.
Correct... BUT, the spacer called for 100 ft lbs, but the honda wheels call for 80. That spacer was going to fail no matter what, I consider myself lucky it failed when it did and not on the highway.
+Tundra Guy oh OK I see. yes I'm very glad you didn't put that on your vehicle and end up wrecking it or have a major accident where you got hurt. Was that one of those eBay spacers made in China? I understand that companies want to maximize profits by having cheap manufacturing costs and use China, but we gotta draw a line somewhere. Some items that influence your safety or well-being shouldnt be made overseas without proper quality control. a lot of this offshore manufacturing really needs to stop and a lot of the products that come out of China are utter garbage. I find it ridiculous how after all the advanced technology we have here we end up making our stuff overseas in a country that could care less about the quality and standards used to produce those goods. Glad to know that you're safe and that you put this up on TH-cam so other people can learn from your experience.
So your saying spacers should be illegal to use? HECK, if they were that unsafe, they would be illegal I would think, but they are not, right? KYLE, then, why did you state that they were very dangerous then, why are they dangerous?
Is not about where the wheel spacer is made, is how much do you want to expend, if you pay 100 bucks for a spacer made in China I highly guarantee that is made about same quality as made in US,not because is made in china means is bad,remember!! you get what you pay for!!!
2:40, Not defending China but you should have been torquing Honda lug nuts to 80 ft. lbs. anyway. I would not use aluminum wheel spacers either. Anything a drunk guy crushes on his forehead for fun should not be holding up your vehicle!
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The expensive ones tend to be milled from forged aluminium with a tight compact grain, where the cheap ones are cast with a porous grain.
It doesn't matter the aluminum that's made of. Should be light that's the reason for them using aluminum. Cheap and light.
The only thing that matters is to have perfect parallel faces reported to the center axle
Porous grain doesn't do anything wrong.
I have run wheel spacers on everything from my 4x4s to my street cars and even on a drag car, when installed and torqued properly they are perfectly safe...
native ojibwa if I use lock tite is that for a more permanent thing?
I have Bora 1 1/2" wheels spacers on my 2015 tundra they have been on for 60,000 miles no issues
Good thing you mentioned the need to retighten the spacers after a while! (Y) :)
I put 1 1/2 inch wheel spacers on my jeep in the front and back (made in America of course) And the spacers ended making my front end shake like I had death wobble. Took it in dreading all my links needed replaced. They couldn't figure out what it was the whole time. They popped off the spacers and drove it down the road and it drove fine ever since. The spacers were not damaged in any way or form. Just some how caused my front end to shake like crazy.
Jake B My guess is they weren’t hubcentric
My guess would be that your guess was correct! JAKE
Hub-centric is the next really important term/type after made in the USA and warranty. Hub-centric wheel spacers keep the weight off the wheel lugs and on the hub where it is carrying the weight as it should. Thread locker is another one for those leaving the spacers on, red is intended as a more permeant install but blue could be used and still allow the spacer to be removed. Some people use it some don't, not required but worth considering.
Robert, about that sort of thing, ya think they would make some sort of locking bolt system, or something, sort of like a locking washer system, why not, my thinking is this., if people are going to be concerned about vibration and it loosing, then that heavy metal could be made with some sort of locking bolt, instead of locking washers, or both? just a thought?
I bought hub centric wheel spacers on eBay. I used red Loctite on the studs to the hub. Only issue was stripping a short lug nut before heating the other ones when I put bigger brakes on. I only had 1 inch spacers and had to cut the factory wheel studs down as well.
YOU ARE THE MAN DUDE TANK YOU SO MUCH THIS IS ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW EVERYONE SAYS OH IT WILL VIBRATE OVER TIME NOT A YEAR ROUNF THING , not if you watch this guys vid who simply tells you to just keep re torking to factory spect
Well made video, to the point with practical example and dos and don'ts.
Had a pair on the rear of a Mustang GT. Went through 3 sets of tires. Never had issues. They were about 1.5"
What brand or were they ebay ones? I just bought a set for the rear of my 2004 mustang gt and got them on ebay for 30 bucks shipped. They are brand name Max Auto and are made of 6061 cnc aluminum and have 10.9 hardened steel studs. They have a 1 year warranty...we'll see?
Watched the whole video and not once did you mention anything about "hub-centric spacers" being the better buy.
Nothing wrong with ebay spacers as you said, I run 1.5" hub-centric wheel spacers
Also an important note is to always use LOCTITE.....Always....
Yes although those 2" spacers will put a hurting on your bearings... 1.5" is usually the max people recommend.
Safety wise you'll be fine just use a tiny bit of removable loctite or just check the torque every once and a while but not after loctiting them. They should be fine if you use loctite (just put them on, torque them down once and forget about them), but they can be a botch to get off. Snapped 2 sockets trying to remove mine after a year both snap on.
Better then losing a wheel down the highway :p
I would go the safest route and just get newer rims with the offset you like, stance wise.
Extra stress on the bearings has always been my fear.
the thicker, the harder on the bearings? looking at quarter inch in the front and half inch in the rear
Whilst having to rectify a bodged 3" body lift done by a previous owner and lowering the body back down to the chassis I notice stress cracks in the black alloy wheel spacers exactly like the ones in your video. After spraying some welders crack detector on them these cracks turned out to be even worse than I thought. I have since removed all the wheel spacers and fitted standard wheels back on to the vehicle. In future I will not be buying a pick up truck which has had a vehicle lift. There are some horrific videos on you tube of wheels falling off.
alright people listen up. if you want to know the truth about wheel spacers here it is. wheel spacers cause premature wear on ball joints and wheel bearings. why? because they are moving the wheel farther out which puts more stress on them. that is a fact. if your okay with that use them if not dont
true its no no different than rims with a different offset
Lol, no, use wheel spacers an off-road all the time, never had premature wear. So Wrong!
You are also using hub centric spacers which put the pressure in the ring in the middle of the hub. They are much stronger and better aligned than non-hub centric versions.
Correct, forgot to mention that... thanks for pointing it out!
What would happen if you were to put wheel spacer after wheel spacer under the same wheel? Like having 2 in the same wheel? I'd like the tires to be wider than just one spacer offers
Honestly, I think that is just asking for trouble... Don't do it!
Honestly, I think that is just asking for trouble... don't do it!
MOTOWENS that's crazy brother just save up for different offset wheels most people who are knowledgeable on the subject do not recommend more than 1.5" on wheel adapters like tundra guy said do not recommend and I don't think anyone has done that way too much strain on bearings after certain point causing premature wear and failure, not to mention potential safety risk to yourself and others on the road.
Ricardo Massa exactly!
The amount of threads engaged is used in calculations for holding force required. So, if you use the spacers that do not bolt on, and you are grabbing less threads on the original studs, you risk failure.
The hub centric is the key ,
I'm use 2" spacer front and rear! Made of 7075 aluminium. No problem for me! Use them all year long and they have only need one time of reset as they was new. Now the day they are tight and fit every time I'm shit the tires. So good quality is worth it in the end.
I was trying to find such a video regarding the wheel spacers, thank you so much i was about to buy a cheap one, i guess i will go for H&R brand since its the best as i heard.. Nice video!
Maybe the ebay one was cast aluminum. 100lbs on the Honda seems pretty high.
Jacob James all hondas are rated for either 80 or 90 foot pounds
So the guy that works on his vehicle on a cheap jack and no jackstands is telling us what is safe?
If he isn't working under the truck what difference does it make?
Putting lug nuts on the spacer lugs too... kind of like OK... Why? lol
Sean Lane you some tv guy ohhh thats not right thats wrong wtf man worry about yourself ..
Arthur Scott say what ???
Robert Presti Jr Its not just about his safety, what if the car jack fails, he doesnt have a wheel on nor does he have an extra support, shits not gunna be pretty.
Good point I've had a friend that put cheap spacers on his f150 and had his passenger side wheel fall off while driving in town and had to replace the the hub then he again used another set of cheap spacers and had the other front wheel fall off at 60 mph coming off a curved overpass needless to say lesson learned and that that you should do a lot of research on a set of spacers if that's something you're looking into.
Please can I install wheel spacers on my nissan xterra 2004 without lifting it... Just want to upgrade the tires to bigger size.. And what is the idea wheel spacer to buy... Thank you .
I highly appreciate this review. The one thats cracked is the one that atlantic british wants to sell. Now I know I can check out BORA.
Thanks for the warnings, been looking at those cheapies.
Amateur question, but how do you tighten it to exactly the amount of torque fit for the lugs? Is there like a guage? I just do it as tight as possible.m
+Jb C You should really invest in a torque wrench. Over tightening wheel spacer is a sure way to crack them. Heck, even aluminum wheels can crack if you over tighten them too much...
@Tundra Guy, you forgot to mention another reason why spacers shouldn't be used. It's for the simple fact that wheels that stick out a little farther out than factory specs will get mud and all that other crap on the sides of your car a little more, at least on lighter colored vehicles. So why do it? Don't. =(
Not necessarily, depends on how wide you go with the spacers. I do not have that problem with mine...
Jb C you are hurt. Everything is measure to the exact pound of torque , even down to inch pound with a wrench.
Why didn't you return the fractured spacer after it split like that?
Spacers that are not bolted on are perfectly safe if they are installed correctly. If the wheel is a bolt-on, you need longer bolts. If the hubs have studs and you install the wheel using nuts, you need to disassemble the hub and install longer studs. On top of that, they need to be hubcentric.
Also, never use aluminium spacers without steel inserts.
Thanks for the video and info on torquing them again. Question.....why do you only keep them on in the winter. Just wondering.
I have snow tires on them steel wheels, so only need the spacers for them. I have aftermarket wheels for the summer that have 1.5" of offset so they sit even with the fender wells...
why do you run them only in the winter?
Yes, they are safe. I've used them in rally cars without issues. All you need are trusted wheel studs.
I used to make those out of locomotive engine pushrod or buy OEM stuff.
As a machinist these wheel spacers are fine as they're lug centric. Don't use them if you're carrying over 10,000 lbs plus the vehicle's weight. Hubcentric adapters are the only option carrying heavy loads. These ones are more suited for what he's doing.
question. if your tundra needs 100 lbs why would your Honda?
Yeah, I shoulda clarified in the video, the honda only calls for 80lbs, but the instructions that came with the spacer said 100 for the spacer...
Will D lug nut torque is not specified by the weight of the vehicle. it is determined by the size and metal grade of the bolt it is being attached to. that being said the manufacturer determines the size and quantity needed for that vehicle. for instance 1/2 ton has 5 or 6 lugs where as 3/4 ton has 8. they are both same lug bolt and torque just different quantity for weight variances
yeah dumb ass
I only need about a 5 mm spacer, would that be safe?
Thanks you guys for the advise , very nice explanation.
Lock tight?
there is a hidden problem using the wheel spacer buyer beware. there is stress on the front sway bar. the better look doesn't give me a good reason just to make your wheels stick out. just imagine when you try to bend a flex rod. the wider the rod, the more energy require also, energy distribution becomes less and the tire will wear faster. after hundred miles with the spacer on the front wheels and no spacer on the rear wheels, you will see the difference on the tires wear pattern. hundred dollars will get you more problems on pinion ball joints and a costly new set of tires.
I could not agree more. I have had to spend hours rectifying a bodged 3" body lift done by a previous owner and get rid of the oversized wheels. The spacers had stress cracks and the power steering box was also badly damaged and had to be replaced. Not to mention a lot of damage caused else where by this bodged up vehicle lift.
I run centric spacers on 2 of my lifted vehicles. You buy good ones, and put locktight on those studs. You'll be fine.
Whats the max speed you can do safely with spacers on?
I wonder why Toyota has disc brakes on the back of the Tundra yet they don't put them on the Tacoma...? Any idea..?
money
u have the hubcentric h+r ones that go on but they don't bolt on like those.did come with extended studs
Lol. I saw a video on TH-cam where someone said wheel spacers where bad and unsafe. But he wanted to put jeep Cherokee rims on a renegade. So instead of spacers or buying new rim. He began to grind down part of the brake caliper. Now that is unsafe. I'd would have gotten wheel spacer or a proper fitted rim.
so if leaving them on, how offen do you check them?
every time you rotate the tires or have the wheels off for other service...
LOL at him saying made in the USA 3x.. Like that is any sort of recommendation. LOL
American steel is the best.
That eBay one was not hub centric and probably cheap aluminum.
I had a rear right wheel come off of my 73 pontiac lemans in 1977. Was going around left hand turn. Had a bad accident. Totaled my Lemans and even after hours and hours of searching. Never found my wheel and tire. These were American Steel. Anyway, Yeah, Be careful. Do it right or not at all. Crager SS's was wha I had on that Pontiac.
I have 1 1/2 Bora wheels on my 2015 tundra with stock wheels they have been on for 60,000 with no issues
cool info .... I bought cheap ones send them right back didn't even look at them .....BORA is the way to go ....
The Honda wheel spacer looks like it's a cheap casting. While the black spacer is most likely a billet aluminum spacer. Remember this, aluminum will crack and break apart with no warning. no matter if it's cast or billet aluminum, (billet aluminum being much stronger) Their is a reason as to why no auto manufacture uses aluminum on the wheel hub assembly!
Robert Murillo yes.somebody thinks.
Any recommendations on reputable wheel spacer brands?
I got mine here www.motorsport-tech.com/bora.html but I am sure there are some other reputable brands... spidertrax maybe
search ksp on amz, i bought once and the quality was pretty good.
Alot of times you dont need a wheel "adaptor" that thick anyways. The adaptor is bolted to the car. The tire is not. If course that wouldnt be safe.
what brand was the one you bought from ebay?
Yeah that wall is wayyy the thin and some cheap material. Couldn’t agree more with this guy. It’s your wheel to your vehicle we’re talking about here lol it’s pretty important
I am not going to say as to if they are safe, but I believe they cause premature wear to steering components and bearings. think of it like a pry bar, a longer bar means more tension to whatever is being pried on. now I don't know how how roads are in other areas but my roads eat undercarriage for breakfast, and they don't need help!
Bad advice, It is about how a wheel spacer is build, in the example the chinees one similair can also be build in the US or other country. It is about the quality of the wheel spacer how it is constructed NOT WHERE IT COMES FROM and the warranty they will give. So the last words are correct.
Good job... I agree.
Very informative video. Thanks.
Spacers are a bad idea. Just get the right wheels. If you have needs or just not happy with the looks, money shouldn't be an issue
Cast aluminum on the eBay set. USA pricy one were milled from one chunk of aluminum.
Like the guy said, buy the made in the us one. It's your life on the line here wanna play?
I've never actually seen wheel spacers on a truck before. Isn't the weight of a truck very stressful and something like that?
is it save to tow a trailer with wheel spacers?
hmmm, not sure there... depends on the truck and trailer i guess. But i see your username is duramax2015 so not sure I would run theses on that diesel with all that torque but check with other diesel guys there. But i would recommend steel spacers and only hub centric...
so are the black made of aluminum or steel?
I just installed my new 2 inch black ones by bora on my 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 today. They are made of aluminum just as the silver looking ones are. A word to those ordering from Bora, they make the spacers to order when you order. Mine took many weeks but I am thrilled with the quality.
What is the purpose of putting on spacers?
Mr. Bluegrass They get the tires to stick out a little more. If some correct the stance of the truck looks very nice. You cant go cheap with this stuff tho!
People are too cheap to run the proper backspaced wheels so this is the alternative although are not legal in many states.
Great video.. Thanks for the info
great information! thank you!
Safety first i like that is made in 🇺🇸 thank you for sharing your video
great video. thanks for sharing.
Does anyone know if u have to do an alinment in the front when putting on spacers
If your front was out to start with spacers may amplifi that problem otherwise no.
New alignment is in order, for sure.
thanks for saying that without explaining, very funny dude!
So you are saying junk products are all made in china lol.
Aaron Gao FUCK YE
If you want your tires to stick out from the fender flares a little bit, why not just buy a larger set of tires & wheels when it's time for new tires? I do some driving on dirt roads and I sure don't need rocks being thrown up into the side of my truck and chipping up the paint. I want my tires under the fender flares where they belong.
from where and how i buy spacers for jeep wrangler in saudi arabia?
just search ksp on amz for buying wheel spacers
What if they're made in the UK, where I live?
Those are also fine,make sure they have life time warranty
bad as long as they are not made in USA...is that what you meant, Tundra Guy?
I am sure there are some quality spacers made in other countries. Just do your research and make sure they have a lifetime warranty. And AVOID the spacers sold on ebay that are made in china!
Look how thin the wall is on the china one. i think if it was thicker, you wouldn't have had a problem even if it was from china.
Chase Lesser.....good eye! I noticed the same thing
Chase, yes for sure, that area right there you think would be and should be a tad thinker. it sure seemed this for a stress area, which that is. and when that goes, the crack is almost what would be expected, I mean to say, at at least 70lbs of torque should be fine for about any car or SUV with at least 6 lugs or so. not sure i would use loctite though. and about that 100LBS, that seems high for almost any car.
you didn't even mention that the cheap ones were not hubcentric big NO
Always have ANY WHEEL ride on the hubs. (hub centric) NEVER have your wheels ride on the lug nuts. (lug centric)
1.5 is the max but you can go out to 3 inch but just to warn ya better be ready to hand out money
Anything you buy made of solid steel from the Midwest is better than gold.
I run 2" on a lmm crew cab dually. install them correct. re torque inner after 1000 miles and then re torque outer 1000 miles later and be done. I tow 20k very often. buy American and keep it together.
Thank you so much for your comment. I have a 2010 Silverado and I wanted 2" spacers but I hadn't seen anything from somebody who towed, as I tow 15-20k on a regular basis
Just make sure it's a good quality steel spacer with the lip around the center for your rim to center itself on. (Hubcentric) . When you look at a spacer and it's steel and you think this thing is massive and weighs easy 10 lbs each. Run them. I'll look to find my paperwork on my brand. I trust mine fully.
Stay away from uni lug garbage.
thanks man. very much
I ran some spacers and they broke almost killed me bad idea and there is no good ones there all very dangerous.
Oh dang, what spacer was it and wheres it made?
I don't like them, regardless of who made them or where they are made. I've witnessed some pretty bad safety related failures with these things.
Do it the right way, it's not worth your,or anyone else's safety
the one cracked is this aluminum or steel material?
+Spider Webb the cracked one is aluminum from china bought on ebay. The good ones are also aluminum, but from the usa, from the company Bora
thanks for your video ..
so.... a Honda civic I guarantee doesn't take 100 ft/lbs for the wheels
first thing i said
The instructions for the spacer called for 100 ft/lbs, and then to torque the wheels to spec.
Well that's fucked cuz you will warp your rotor if you do it that tight
not to sound like an ass hole but just so you know why. with 5 lugs at 100lb that's 500 pounds pulling on the rotor. witch is fine until you add the heat from heavy braking.
He doesn't realise that 70% of his car is made in China
Can someone post the website for the bora spacer for Toyota Tundra 2017 pls?
www.motorsport-tech.com/bora.html
good video! thank you.
Dont do it unless the manufacturer is okay with it. Or better still dont use the damn things at all. Get a wider vehicle. As soon as you alter the dimensions of a wheel assembly like that you are putting a lot more strain on the bearings, axles etc. Do you really want a spacer failure at highway speeds or round a fast corner ? Think about that.
the wheel spacer for your Honda cracked because its torque spec is 80 ft lbs, not 100 + ft lbs
Correct... BUT, the spacer called for 100 ft lbs, but the honda wheels call for 80. That spacer was going to fail no matter what, I consider myself lucky it failed when it did and not on the highway.
+Tundra Guy oh OK I see. yes I'm very glad you didn't put that on your vehicle and end up wrecking it or have a major accident where you got hurt. Was that one of those eBay spacers made in China?
I understand that companies want to maximize profits by having cheap manufacturing costs and use China, but we gotta draw a line somewhere. Some items that influence your safety or well-being shouldnt be made overseas without proper quality control. a lot of this offshore manufacturing really needs to stop and a lot of the products that come out of China are utter garbage. I find it ridiculous how after all the advanced technology we have here we end up making our stuff overseas in a country that could care less about the quality and standards used to produce those goods.
Glad to know that you're safe and that you put this up on TH-cam so other people can learn from your experience.
i find it funny how people say things are made in the USA like it makes any difference..
Brynje Chinese metal forging and castings are poorly made. All recycled material. If truly made in the u.s. the metal is always top notch
funny how he kept insisting that you buy American made spacers but yet he is driving a Japanese truck..
maiga alassane those trucks are made here.
Life time warny
Lol Spacers are dangerous regardless of what time. Good luck with those. Ill see your wheel flying by me soon.
So your saying spacers should be illegal to use? HECK, if they were that unsafe, they would be illegal I would think, but they are not, right? KYLE, then, why did you state that they were very dangerous then, why are they dangerous?
Sound stupid
Error 404: No chinese dare to get near this video cause it's 4:44
Is not about where the wheel spacer is made, is how much do you want to expend, if you pay 100 bucks for a spacer made in China I highly guarantee that is made about same quality as made in US,not because is made in china means is bad,remember!! you get what you pay for!!!
2:40, Not defending China but you should have been torquing Honda lug nuts to 80 ft. lbs. anyway. I would not use aluminum wheel spacers either. Anything a drunk guy crushes on his forehead for fun should not be holding up your vehicle!
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Although alot of chinese made products are not good, but worse than poorly made chinese products are ones made in, Sri Lanka, India, Bangledesh, etc.
I have come across alot of cheap, greedy, ignorant, awful people that are from such places such as, Sri Lanka, India, Bangledesh, etc. there are some that are decent, but most are not decent people.
Although I have come across some bad chinese people, I have come across many nice chinese people, it would be nice if all chinese people could learn and speak decent english, before coming to north america.
There are some chinese made products that are decent quality, and they do exist.
Although my comments might not directly relate to product quality, the mindset / personality speaks alot, and does have impact on products, reputation, and etc. when applied to.
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Although some of the chinese made products are made with decent quality materials, its simpler to stay with Canadian, American, or european made products, which are quite well made, and is good quality.
Theres a reason why good quality things costs more, and is worth it.
There is a reason why cheap quality things costs not alot, and is not worth it.
Good quality brake parts, such as pads, rotors, shoes, drums, costs alot more than cheap parts but, also lasts alot longer too, and also less visits to the shop.
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Cheap quality low cost parts, lasts 6 months to a year. ( multiple visits to shop ) pay more for labor, based on numbers of visits.
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Just use washers instead. It's 100% safe 😉 lol
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